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Should be a wild four years.

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Puff said:
Crowder got the leak of the Tranifesto from Nashville too. The ATF is just trying to plug a leak. But doing it to a jorno is usually considered distasteful. It'll probably be a legal battle over protecting sources.
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Crowder said on his show this morning that the leaker said that they were only leaking the memo because they were afraid that it would be covered up.
 
T u l p a said:
I have right wing friends and left wing acquaintances. Yesterday the acquaintances were jubilant. "Think he regrets pushing so hard for guns now?".

Today however they kept bringing up the democratic representatives killed awhile back as some sort of "Um, ackshully..." in that it's really both sides committing violence. Sure enough I look it up and it's all the rage on twitter.

I haven't argued with them about politics in years. It's pointless. But I do bring up whatever part of the story they always conveniently leave out. So I mention the killer in that case was an associate of Tim Walz who claimed Walz wanted him to kill them to advance his career and that the two who were killed had recently broke with the democratic party on a vote for immigrant benefits.

Without missing a beat they say "That doesn't mean he wasn't right wing".

It's moments like these that remind me why they are only ever acquaintances.
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The low hanging fruit they miss in these arguments are the weirdos who attacked Pelosi's husband with a hammer and tried to kidnap the gov of Michigan. It's their fault for being retarded with their leftist argument and not pulling genuine right wing inspired violence out.
 
Crowder deserves a W for posting that, because he said he was given the info by someone specifically because they were scared it would be shelved and hidden like the Tranny Manifesto. They couldn't spin it and just admitted it was real because I bet there's still plenty of fags in the ATF who are the Yellowstone Conservative meme of employees who would memory hole any information.

That he's now being subpoenaed shows there's people in this admin who need to come down harder on the rank and file, this isn't where you try and police your side, you build trust again so this doesn't need to happen. Learn to look the other way until the trash is taken out.
 
jje100010001 said:
In the meantime the best course of action is to keep exposing the left’s ghoulishness and getting as many of them fired. After all, reclaiming the school/uni/medical/etc systems requires a first step and you get to deny the enemy resources and teach them that their arrogance and words do in fact have an impact- on them.

Get some scalps!
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I actually think the shock of seeing liberals and leftists be so sociopathically gleeful is more radicalizing than the actual killing.

The mask drops, you see the glimmer of bloody teeth- you’re next.

To add to this, it’s like a particular page from Enrico Marini’s Raptors vampire comic book where it’s revealed that nearly all of what was supposedly human society were actually vampires and the humans were the minority. Many of the ‘people’ on the streets, your neighbors, your policemen, your coworkers- don’t show reflections.
 
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mandatorylurk said:
Crowder deserves a W for posting that, because he said he was given the info by someone specifically because they were scared it would be shelved and hidden like the Tranny Manifesto. They couldn't spin it and just admitted it was real because I bet there's still plenty of fags in the ATF who are the Yellowstone Conservative meme of employees who would memory hole any information.

That he's now being subpoenaed shows there's people in this admin who need to come down harder on the rank and file, this isn't where you try and police your side, you build trust again so this doesn't need to happen.
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The ATF's response kind of makes me think they were going to try to sweep it up.
 
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I actually think the shock of seeing liberals act so sociopathically gleefully is more radicalizing than the actual killing.

The mask drops, you see the glimmer of bloody teeth- you’re next.
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Absolutely.

The gravedancers and ghouls celebrating the murder of husband and father who treated everyone with respect, often without reciprocation, is making a lot of people who thought that today's leftists were just like them but disagreed on some things, realize that they were wrong, the left is dangerously deranged and dangerous, and the time for talk is over.
 
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Crowder said on his show this morning that the leaker said that they were only leaking the memo because they were afraid that it would be covered up.
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Which says a lot about where things are despite the early purging. I very much doubt that Trump would accept that kind of information being held so obviously there’s a lot of house cleaning to do. I don’t like leaks, especially this early, but I also know that the left is concerned about the backlash so I can see people inside the ATF trying to cover it up.
 
Point and Laugh said:
Which says a lot about where things are despite the early purging. I very much doubt that Trump would accept that kind of information being held so obviously there’s a lot of house cleaning to do. I don’t like leaks, especially this early, but I also know that the left is concerned about the backlash so I can see people inside the ATF trying to cover it up.
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ATF has always been a nest of vipers.
 
Before the 2016 election, people on the right politically were tolerated as if they were special needs children. It wasn't their fault that they were retarded.

After the 2016 election, the meme of the moment became "punch nazis". The meaning of that meme being that it was perfectly fine to engage in anything up to open violence against people you or the mainstream media labeled as nazis. Any level of tolerance was gone and if you were on the right, you were a war criminal racist nazi.

What changed in 2016 was that they (the left) lost control of things. They were fine humoring their political opposition as long as it was powerless. But when there was the real threat of change, the gloves were off and your life meant less than nothing to them.

I personally could live with them and don't really care what they choose to believe. But the people on the left don't see things that way. Many of them are mentally living in 1941 and their political opponents are nazis. They are fighting a war to the death against new Hitler and the only way that war ends in their minds is with all the nazis dead or in prison.

And its not all about Trump. They do not consider right of center politics to be legitimate at all.
 
Strix454 said:
In many other ways, I think the rhetoric that came from Charlie was understandably seen by many people as also being inherently violent.
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This pisses me off.

Speech is violence. A dude saying things I disagree with are violence. The people who say things I disagree with are doing violence.

Dude catches a bullet. See his speech violence resulted in real violence, its his fault for saying things I disagree with.

I would love to hear what he had to say about the lady getting necked stabed
 
Strix454 said:
I personally could live with them and don't really care what they choose to believe. But the people on the left don't see things that way. Many of them are mentally living in 1941 and their political opponents are nazis. They are fighting a war to the death against new Hitler and the only way that war ends in their minds is with all the nazis dead or in prison.

And its not all about Trump. They do not consider right of center politics to be legitimate at all.
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Most of them are herd animal sheep who will instantly obey the new set of values when it cocks the whip over them instead of their old master.

They have only ever lived under pure slave morality and a corrupt government, so their behavior is reprehensible. Shock them and put order to chaos, then tell them how to live. They'd be happy enough again.

They aren't "truly" ideological, few people are. Most people's ideology is just rationalizing their own situation as an animal.
 
mandatorylurk said:
Crowder deserves a W for posting that, because he said he was given the info by someone specifically because they were scared it would be shelved and hidden like the Tranny Manifesto. They couldn't spin it and just admitted it was real because I bet there's still plenty of fags in the ATF who are the Yellowstone Conservative meme of employees who would memory hole any information.

That he's now being subpoenaed shows there's people in this admin who need to come down harder on the rank and file, this isn't where you try and police your side, you build trust again so this doesn't need to happen. Learn to look the other way until the trash is taken out.
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jje100010001 said:
I actually think the shock of seeing liberals and leftists be so sociopathically gleeful is more radicalizing than the actual killing.

The mask drops, you see the glimmer of bloody teeth- you’re next.

To add to this, it’s like a particular page from Enrico Marini’s Raptors vampire comic book where it’s revealed that nearly all of what was supposedly human society are actually vampires and the humans are the minority. Most of the ‘people’ on the streets, your neighbors, your policemen, your coworkers- don’t show reflections.
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I still remember how gleeful the left was to throw dissenters into camps for not wanting to get vaxxed or wear masks just a few years ago. It's more of the same.
 
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