Inactive Alison Rapp / Maria Mint / 123grapeman - Pedo Defense Force, CP Advocate, Whore. Husband Jake Rapp found his balls and divorced her.

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She lives in Seattle everything is nuts expensive
The classes are $80 per week at a private clinic in San Francisco. San Francisco is more expensive than Seattle. The classes do not cost more than $80 a week in Seattle, trust me.

Now what she MIGHT be sperging on specifically is that you can be required to be in individual therapy while you take the classes. That might being the weekly total closer to $160. But since she's "self employed" she qualifies for sliding scale therapy.

It comes down to the same things:
- the classes aren't priced out of her reach if she prioritized them
- therapy isn't priced out of her reach if she looked for it and prioritized it
- she could just do individual therapy with a DBT therapist if both therapy and classes together are too much

But she doesn't want to do any of these things, because her BPD isn't in the treatable range where she has the capacity to prioritize her long term goals (getting better) against her immediate BPD NEEDNEEDNEEDNOOOOW desires (buying yaoi, takeout, and paying someone else to take care of her ESA rather than reap the therapeutic benefits herself.)

She wants someone to tell her how sowwy they are for her and buy her pretty things, she doesn't want to do the hard work to get better.
 
She lives in Seattle everything is nuts expensive

In my experience these are the kinds of classes that aren't that expensive because there's a social payoff into making broken people into functioning human beings. Usually even if you can't afford it at a private clinic, you can do something similar at a public clinic or your local university's psychology department for really cheap (or free). Seattle's liberalism also comes into play in the sense that it's probably cheaper for mental health stuff there than a lot of other parts of the country because it gets funded pretty well.

There are options, you just have to look for them, which Ali has no motivation to do.
 
In my experience these are the kinds of classes that aren't that expensive because there's a social payoff into making broken people into functioning human beings. Usually even if you can't afford it at a private clinic, you can do something similar at a public clinic or your local university's psychology department for really cheap (or free). Seattle's liberalism also comes into play in the sense that it's probably cheaper for mental health stuff there than a lot of other parts of the country because it gets funded pretty well.

There are options, you just have to look for them, which Ali has no motivation to do.

No needs-based program would treat an incredibly privileged person, who orders out for cookies and pays servants to walk her dog, as a person in need of free medical services.
 
No needs-based program would treat an incredibly privileged person, who orders out for cookies and pays servants to walk her dog, as a person in need of free medical services.

Oh I agree entirely but they're not always need-based. Sometimes it's just "local clinic is doing emotional management classes for $20 each" or "psych grad students looking to practice running their own sessions"

I'm not saying these options are always available or that you can necessarily start immediately or that it's as good as a private clinic, but they're out there if you're willing to look and wait and maybe send a few emails, and it's better than nothing.
 
Oh I agree entirely but they're not always need-based. Sometimes it's just "local clinic is doing emotional management classes for $20 each" or "psych grad students looking to practice running their own sessions"

I couldn't even blame Alison Rapp for not wanting malpractice performed on her brain by random weirdoes who are probably just Scientologists anyway.
 
Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, or DBT. It's a series of classes in "how to person". Unlike Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, which tells you what NOT to do, DBT gives you lessons on what you should do when you panic / rage / get into interpersonal issues The classes are not just for BPD, but it's the only known treatment for BPD. DBT is also used for those with PTSD and dissociative issues.

Each course of DBT is a weekly class with homework that takes place over 7 months; it's recommended that you do two courses back to back (14 months' worth) so the repetition makes it stick.

Thing is: Ali's been in the classes before, or at least mentioned DBT in the distant past, right when she stopped working and was writing those "articles". If she got Karen as a legit ESA, she likely got it as part of a DBT program. She would have had these classes covered by insurance while working at Nintendo, and by COBRA afterward. It sounds like she either dropped out of the classes at some point, or was asked not to come back for being noncompliant with treatment.

Now she's bitching that they cost too much - you don't pay $10k up front, it's paid by the week. 14 months roughly equals 63 weeks. $10k / 63 = $160 per week, which sounds really high to me. $80 (total cost out of pocket) is more usual. She definitely spends at least $80 a week on takeout and having her dog walked right now.

So she's just BPDing about a problem she herself can easily solve with the resources she currently has at hand... which is why the classes never worked for her: she doesn't want to get better. She wants to blame everyone else for her issues.

How much face to face human interaction does Ali actually get per week? It seems she doesn't talk to people much. Just ordering coffee, takeout, or a dog walker, and occasionally interrupting other peoples' conversations at the coffee shop. Occasionally she gets into it with someone because they're a tourist, they told her to clean her dog's shit, or the landlord wants rent. She doesn't mention any friends. What about those people she met at that convention where she cosplayed? It seems she would need to interact with people in a positive way a few times a week to practice any treatment she gets, but she mostly lives like a hermit in her apartment.

Even online, it's mostly Twitter interactions with thirsty betas and crazy trannies where she's looking for attention or attacking some company for not being SJW enough. She also stopped writing her BPD journals.
 
This all fits in to my "Ali has contract work now" theory. Note that she's not saying she can't pay for her DBT, just that it costs a lot. My guess is that she saw the speculation in-thread recently (since she clearly follows her thread), and has started laying the groundwork for "no, really, guys, I'm still so poor that you need to fund my lifestyle." She needs to prove her fixed expenses are high for reasons that don't involve cookie delivery, or some of her patrons might decide to go fund a girl more in need of their financial attention and more likely to genuinely be thankful. A good start is this kind of vaguebooking where you don't say what kind of therapy you need or how long the $10k of therapy will last (or how many smaller payments you can make).

From what people upthread have said about the type of classes these usually are, my guess is that she goes to one or two of the classes, then says "yay, I did it, I understand myself so much better now and have tools and techniques!" and starts staying in the house and tooting on the days when she's supposed to go get the lessons reinforced at additional classes. She has a real tendency to start things she can't follow through on, and I don't see why a year-long therapy sequence would be any exception.
 
DBT tends to be a little cheaper the more DBT-trained therapists are in an area. Market forces, y'all. I'm thinking that Seattle has a reasonable number of them so it's not the most expensive place to get treatment. Also, you can pay pretty much every therapist everywhere per session. No one is expecting you to put down ten grand cash before you start work.

The classes/therapy are hard work and I doubt Ali-san is willing to put that kind of work in. You need a real commitment to sticking at it. Most people who end up in DBT are there because there's something that their problems is putting at risk in their lives that is super important to them. Like a family, or a marriage, or a career. Alison has already dispensed with these things, which does not augur well for her.
 
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In my experience these are the kinds of classes that aren't that expensive because there's a social payoff into making broken people into functioning human beings.
DBT tends to be a little cheaper the more DBT-trained therapists are in an area.

The DBT therapists are hella more expensive than the classes - because that's one on one. The classes are cheaper because when you get a room of at least 5 and not more than 8 people (per guidelines) paying $80 each week, that easily pays for the time of two therapists to lead the class. The reason they recommend simultaneous DBT therapy is to make sure you get it enforced in one-on-ones, because the rule in the classes is: you listen, you don't talk until it's time to go over your homework, briefly (because in a room full of borderlines the attention competition gets intense, fast, and the PTSD / dissociation patients are terrified of them.)

How much face to face human interaction does Ali actually get per week? It seems she doesn't talk to people much. Just ordering coffee, takeout, or a dog walker, and occasionally interrupting other peoples' conversations at the coffee shop.

Zero, because she's scared off everyone in her personal life and has spiraled down far enough so that she's unable to scrape up the charm to get them enmeshed with her. While she's lost everything one would normally be struggling to keep by taking DBT classes - a marriage, friends, a job - she seems to be getting lonely enough to be considering it again. But of course, displacing the blame for why she hasn't been making these steps already by claiming the total cost over 14 months is too expensive, not that she's spending money on many things that could go to therapy if she chose to.

She appears to be an unfixable case, though; therapy / DBT only works for BPD when they're rather low on the Borderline scale, enough so that they both have the desire to get better, and can see that they are the root cause of at least some of their problems.

Does Allison have a legit BPD diagnosis? A lot of psychiatrists especially the male ones won't treat patients with BPD due to the risk of stalking, fake abuse claims, and all the other fun stuff associated with BPD people.

She seems to; when she was writing the "BPD Diaries" shit on medium it sounded like an exercise for therapy, where she was supposed to lay things out and analyze why she did them. She also got Karen as an ESA. But she likely quit therapy around the time she quit writing those Medium posts. And she can't be seeing anyone now, because a therapist would take her to task over her treatment of Karen and her flipping the script on why Karen is in her life.

I've explained this before, but the ESA isn't there to comfort you (for BPD; PTSD dogs are trained differently, they can clear your apartment or house room by room for intruders, and act as a guard dog as well as emotional support.) It's to force you to care for something that's not yourself, build a relationship with that being, and to get you out of your own head and become less self centered. It also encourages social interaction and light exercise because you have to walk the dogs. By passing the buck on walking Karen, Ali has eliminated a major function of her "ESA" - Karen is supposed to be a way for her to make connections with people while she has Karen with her.

Anyway, this turned into a rant, so enjoy Ali describing her pets and their utility to her last night. It reinforces what I said about Karen - Karen's purpose is that fact that she IS needy, and that Ali is supposed to attend to those needs. But I'd bet cash Ali posts yet another dog walker report card later today, and plops Karen in front of her fetch machine so Ali can fart and watch TV.
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Does Allison have a legit BPD diagnosis? A lot of psychiatrists especially the male ones won't treat patients with BPD due to the risk of stalking, fake abuse claims, and all the other fun stuff associated with BPD people.

Why male specifically? I realize men are more likely to be accused of abuse, but you'd think women are more likely to be stalked.
 
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