AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

Slurred said:
I don't understand this line of thinking, but I suppose it comes naturally to the kinds of people who had their Harry Potter tattoos blacked out after JK Rowling fell from grace with the left and retroactively decided that they had always preferred Animorphs. What a sad way to live, having your aesthetic sensibilities be entirely contingent on political loyalty.
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Yeah I don't either. Like the other guy said it was genuinely good. If it's good then what is even the problem?
"AI sucks because it produces shit"
*developers fix AI so that some of the sounds look good*
"AI sucks because it doesn't have the soul of a human made artist"
*prompter makes half or 75% of the song/art piece/painting him/herself, with AI Assistance*
"Well you still have no soul because it has to be entirely human made in order to count. Sorry, that's just how it is."
You see what I mean? It doesn't matter if the AI is actually good or not. They refuse to believe that AI can be good.
Part of the reason is because so much of the AI the public NORMALLY sees on the internet is slop churned out by Indians. With that, we've gotten so used to AI being bad that we refuse to give at least the good AI shit credence.

I used to be one of those Anti-AI paranoids who'd freak out at the thought of using AI for anything, even schoolwork. Seeing all my classmates submit their shit using the holy grail GPT made me on edge. The teachers would punish the people who used them so I figured I should avoid it like the plague. I wanted to follow the rules. Then, as I trudged thru the dregs of senior year the workload became so tiresome and tedious that I couldn't feasibly keep up without turning in assignments late.
I eventually succumbed to ChatGPT, but I learned that it can give you great info and will help you in school, but in order not to get caught you have to use it smartly. Most of that is pretty obvious: don't copy+paste the whole response into an essay and hope they won't notice. This was in ChatGPT's infancy so the responses were still robotic. It's also important to cross examine the response to a search of the prompt you enter. This is to ensure the response is giving you the correct information since AI, even today, can make mistakes if the topic is niche enough.
Using all of that, I was able to get through the year 10x easier than if I were to go without AI. Not to mention, AI is really good at coming up with a starting brainstorm idea when you don't have the brain capacity to think yourself. Teachers are really banal about AI and that they forbid you to even use it for brainstorming. I find that funny because there would be no way for the teacher to know you used it for brainstorming if it isn't word for word. And besides, I'd rather use that than e-mail the teacher for any ideas because most of the time they'd take too long to respond anyway.

And now, I use AI to brainstorm story ideas, and to get feedback on my artwork. Of course, I still consult some of my art friends on Discord, but AI works too. Honestly AI is here to stay and I'm happy for that. I may be disappointed with the modern internet and many of its sins, but thinking about AI now, it's a silver lining if anything.
 
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lol @ this comic featured in the OP.

This is how it works if you are normal, rational, and logical. Unfortunately libtards are none of these things. Example of paying various artists for their talent and then feeding the results into a model - Arc Raiders. Shooter game that just came out and did this for voice actors. People still complained to no end about AI, talking about how voice actors are being exploited. There's no winning with these types.
 
HektorInspektor said:
Yeah I don't either. Like the other guy said it was genuinely good. If it's good then what is even the problem?
"AI sucks because it produces shit"
*developers fix AI so that some of the sounds look good*
"AI sucks because it doesn't have the soul of a human made artist"
*prompter makes half or 75% of the song/art piece/painting him/herself, with AI Assistance*
"Well you still have no soul because it has to be entirely human made in order to count. Sorry, that's just how it is."
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I don't like this line of logic because they are applying the purity spiral to the human soul. By their reasoning, they are diminishing the domain of what it means to be human just to spite the concept of AI, because a lot of what they discount as "not-human" are just objective standards, improperly rendered hands, poor understanding of physics, or impermanence. But these can be resolved, hell, some of them are already resolved, so inevitably they are going to move the goal post forever, until they consider very human traits as a pitfall of AI.

Consider the poor rendering of hands; people were quick to say that's a tell-tale sign of AI, but the inability to recreate hands is a pretty human trait in art. But it's also within the bounds of computational solvability. Why can't a computer potentially render hands better than a human in the same way a computer can outperform humans in a game of chess? Are these people really letting AI appropriate human flaws?

There is this post about how you must hate AI simply because it is, regardless of objectivity. This is the current level of cope right now. They are effectively shutting down critical thinking out of pure vitriol.
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There is this post about how you must hate AI simply because it is, regardless of objectivity. This is the current level of cope right now. They are effectively shutting down critical thinking out of pure vitriol. The irony is that the same people who apply post-modern onto concepts of gender, and often break down the separation of man and woman, are vigilant in making sure there is a separation of humanity and technology. Even though developing technology, including AI, is a very human trait.

I think this philosophy can erode the concept of humanity over time substantially than the existence of AI can.
 
Rungle said:
a friend of mine really does not like AI because its bad for nature or someshit.
like yeah sure, but my cool sora AI video of spongebob disagrees.
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As far as I know that's not really true. Sure it uses a lot of energy but if we were a proper society that focused on nuclear it wouldn't be a problem in the slightest.

I've also heard that apparently water used in water cooling will hurt our water supply, but that's not really true either since it just evaporates and rains down again.
 
MagneticTowels said:
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Maybe it's just that far too many fields, like art, are full of obnoxious faggots that are being viciously taken down a lot of pegs? Or the fact it has become an equalizer? I hate reading AI shit as much as the next person, but these people are driving themselves crazy over something that is literally inconsequential for most people.
 
linchan said:
There is this post about how you must hate AI simply because it is, regardless of objectivity. This is the current level of cope right now. They are effectively shutting down critical thinking out of pure vitriol.
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> AI art provides no benefit to society, only to corps.

Oh, fuck off. What corporation benefited from the existence of this image? It was probably made with local tools, not Grok or Gemini or certainly not piss yellow ChatGPT. What megacorp suddenly earned money because this image was shared? Twitter, I guess, because it was shared there, but that applies equally to all traditional art shared there.

Regular people benefit from AI disproportionately. The fact that someone loved this image or was inspired by it, and it wasn't Disney Marvel slop or related to any shitty pre-existing brand, is devastating to corporations. People can make things they enjoy without needing anyone's permission anymore, or paying any subscription fee.
 
Runch said:
Regular people benefit from AI disproportionately. The fact that someone loved this image or was inspired by it, and it wasn't Disney Marvel slop or related to any shitty pre-existing brand, is devastating to corporations. People can make things they enjoy without needing anyone's permission anymore, or paying any subscription fee.
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Which is what I've been saying for years, but no one listens!
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Slurred said:
A lot of AI training and inference runs on graphics card clusters in data centers, many of which use water cooling, and leftists pretend not to understand the water cycle. It's all the same arguments they made against Bitcoin mining, basically amounting to "how dare you use resources for something I disapprove of, maybe if I shame you with selectively applied enviro-doomer arguments you'll feel bad and stop."

I recently saw someone get called out for posting AI art because of muh water usage and muh harm to marginalized communities. He responded that the art was generated on his own PC and so obviously had nothing to do with any data center. Many smaller AI models will run on the same hardware you'd use for playing videogames and use the same or less electricity as that activity.
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Microsoft just put out a blog about their new data center and it had this helpful tidbit
 

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HektorInspektor said:
Part of the reason is because so much of the AI the public NORMALLY sees on the internet is slop churned out by Indians. With that, we've gotten so used to AI being bad that we refuse to give at least the good AI shit credence.
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And then you look at what real artists can do with it.
This is something that not only couldn't have been done without AI, but also couldn't have been done without a real artist at the helm.

And this is last generation.
 
9xcosette said:
Microsoft just put out a blog about their new data center and it had this helpful tidbit
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Nuclear reactors also use closed loop liquid cooling. But to remove the heat from the liquid, they use... MORE LIQUID, either heating up a river or evaporating through big-ass-cooling-towers.

Presumably Microsoft is implying the liquid loop chillers are air source coolers and not a liquid evaporation system.
 
The Cringe Connoisseur said:
NFTs were just an utterly retarded idea that only utter retards bought into and all of the B/C list celebrities that pushed that retarded shit should be punched in the throat for their shameless whoring.
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NFTs crashed once people found out VR and the Metaverse were not viable investments long term. The graphics were dogshit so you had an expensive NFT plus your digital land displaying in a world that looked like a flash game from the early 2000s. Once AI picked up steam, the idea of virtual worlds and property evaporated. That was 2021- 2023.
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AnOminous said:
This is something that not only couldn't have been done without AI, but also couldn't have been done without a real artist at the helm.
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Funny you posted this, I was thinking exactly about this video while skimming through the thread! I've loved Igorrr's music for years and admittedly I was disappointed to get an AI music video, but only after watching it I realised just how much potential AI has when put in the right hands. This MV is trippy and nonsensical but it still makes sense. There's reoccurring characters and symbolism but there's also the liquid-y chaos that AI brings. I remember watching this and being confused why it actually wasn't half bad until I looked in the description and realised that this really was a combo-effort of man and machine, rather than just entering prompts into a generator. It really is probably one of the best usages of AI I've ever seen within art and it permanently changed my outlook towards AI in general. I'm still nowhere near to being a technobro, but my seethe has long died down compared to the days when I was more active within online art communities.
 
I don't care for AI, and refuse to actively interact with it as a personal rule.

However the coping and seething from these "muh credit, muh commissions" artfags is amusing.
 
Bruh literally what is art for? The modern digital kind you only see posted on social medias or cropped for ERP usage. People are mad over not music, paintings or writings, but the fucking college-dropout tier hentai you'll find on xitter.

People are mad cause AI is taking the one way to get attention away from terminally online losers. If you love art so much, why not draw yourself? Oh you only care about the end product; the thing AI is all about.
 
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