Ziz / Jack Amadeus LaSota / Zizians / sinceriously.fyi - Vegan AI Singularity Doomsday Cult turned Tranny Manson Family. Implicated in at least 6 deaths.

[Vect]

I guess the whole murder cult built out of a fear of eternal retroactive damnation by an omnipotent AI singularity that doesn't exist was just a cover story to prevent the government persecuting them? Does that imply they believe posing as murderous delusional Internet cultists is a better look than being transgender?

 

[waffle]

The Courthouse News article also raises the possibility that if the trial gets delayed long enough, one of the only witnesses could drop dead of old age:

This gets under my skin, the prosecutor doesn't have a right to a speedy or fair trial, the defendant does. If they are so concerned about this then why doesn't the prosecutor depose the witness?

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

Can we make Roko's Basilisk real so that these fucks will be living batteries for deserving AI

 

[Enjoy_the_Soylence]

This gets under my skin, the prosecutor doesn't have a right to a speedy or fair trial, the defendant does. If they are so concerned about this then why doesn't the prosecutor depose the witness?

I'm sure they have deposed them, that's part of discovery. It's never going to be good enough for a dead person's witness statement to be "read in" to the record over testifying in person. Every time I've seen that happen, the jury zones out.

 

[waffle]

Having a deposition read in always sucks, sure, but it would keep the case from being dismissed for not having a necessary witness and from my understanding they have plenty of other evidence without the guy.

If they're already done a deposition it was probably recorded anyway, those hold the jury's attention a lot better IMO.

 

[Vect]

If they're already done a deposition it was probably recorded anyway, those hold the jury's attention a lot better IMO.

He's already testified and been cross-examined, the problem is he's only a second hand witness and he's said dubious things already, like doing undercover work for the government for no official pay. If his testimony was reduced to a witness statement you could make a strong case for it being inadmissible.

A flawed living witness testifying is always better, especially as these defendants have literally gone for the "the police are groping my breasts" level of oppression theatre. Given this wasn't something more sensational like murdering pre-schoolers, it'll be interesting to see in the current political climate if killer trannies can still avoid consequences by emotionally blackmailing the ordinary citizen.

 

[VM_]

 

[InconvenientNecessity]

He's quoting songs, dumbasses.

There's any number of sources for "what you gonna do". The theme from Cops, the TV show for one...
Fucker will do anything to not face the actual music (that TWNBW).
Oh, and that some of them are actual murderers ffs...

 

[Gregis]

crossposting for posterity

Thread 'Trans Death Cult Leader Melts Down in Court: Accuses Government of 'Trans Genocide''

Nov 24, 2025

Article (archive)

Andy Ngo
Nov 24, 2025

“I’m transgender, and the intentions of this regime towards transgender people are very clear: genocide.”

Jack “Ziz” LaSota was arraigned in federal court today in Baltimore after being indicted in June for being a fugitive in possession of firearms and ammunition. LaSota, a man who identifies as a woman, is the leader of the so-called “Zizian” trans death cult linked to eight deaths.

LaSota’s defense attorney, Gary Proctor, had recently filed a motion for a speedy trial and castigated the federal government for “deadnaming”...

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[Athena Save Us!]

I'm wanted for literal murder, but allow me my soapbox to accuse you of genocide, which used to mean 'ubermurder', but it's been tossed around so casually now that it has lost its bite.

 

[CervixHammer]

Lengthy recap of the Zizian situation in Rolling Stone (archive).

 

[NoReturn]

Lengthy recap of the Zizian situation in Rolling Stone (archive).

I'm genuinely impressed at the writing at this one. My expectations have gotten so low for normal press that reading an Rolling Stone article that actually reads like a Rolling Stone article is surprising.

 

[Positron]

[Ziz] was stunned that the organization she’d placed so much faith in would use money she’d donated — the little money she and her friends had — not for time-sensitive, potentially world-saving research, but to pay off a disgruntled employee.

[Machine Intelligence Research Institute, MIRI], in the protesters’ view, had failed [Yudkowsky's Timeless Decision Theory]: The organization would never have been “blackmailed” if it wasn’t already the type of organization that could be “blackmailed” in the first place. But because it was, every assumption anyone ever made about MIRI — and its potential to save the world — needed to be reconsidered.

But, according to Timeless Decision Theory, Ziz would have known that MIRI was the type of organization that could be "blackmailed", ergo he would not have donated one cent.

 

[NoReturn]

Back to the article, I wanted to share two things.
One, this section:

Lasota’s second accusation — that Yudkowsky started an AI arms race — referred to an uncomfortable truth: that Yudkowsky, despite his ceaseless warnings about the threat posed by AI, has arguably done more than any other person alive to hasten the acceleration of artificial intelligence technology.​

In 2005, shortly after he began working on The Sequences, Yudkowsky was introduced to Peter Thiel — the co-founder of PayPal and Palantir — at a dinner party in San Francisco. Thiel took an interest in his work and began funding Yudkowsky’s Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence, and together, with famed computer scientist Ray Kurzweil, they created an annual conference, the Singularity Summit, at Stanford University. (Jeffrey Epstein was another early supporter of SIAI; he gave $50,000 through his own foundation in 2009.)​

The founders of the AI lab DeepMind persuaded Thiel to fund their startup, later purchased by Google, at the Singularity Summit. DeepMind’s early success, in turn, impressed a young Thiel acolyte, Sam Altman, who went on to co-found Open AI with Elon Musk, a MIRI backer (and, apparently, a LessWrong reader — he connected with the singer Grimes after they made the same joke about a popular LessWrong thought experiment called “Roko’s Basilisk”). Altman has credited Yudkowsky with sparking his pursuit of Artificial General Intelligence — artificial intelligence that is as smart as, or smarter, than humans.​

Two, just a reminder to everyone, this is from the first chapter of Yudkowsky’s Harry Potter fanfic that kicked this all off:

Sometimes Harry wanted to scream at his father.​

​

"Mum," Harry said. "If you want to win this argument with Dad, look in chapter two of the first book of the Feynman Lectures on Physics. There's a quote there about how philosophers say a great deal about what science absolutely requires, and it is all wrong, because the only rule in science is that the final arbiter is observation - that you just have to look at the world and report what you see. Um... off the top of my head I can't think of where to find something about how it's an ideal of science to settle things by experiment instead of arguments -"​

​

His mother looked down at him and smiled. "Thank you, Harry. But -" her head rose back up to stare at her husband. "I don't want to win an argument with your father. I want my husband to, to listen to his wife who loves him, and trust her just this once -"​

​

Harry closed his eyes briefly. Hopeless. Both of his parents were just hopeless.​

Timeless Decision Theory

Total Dipshit Thinking

 

[Positron]

"Mum," Harry said. "If you want to win this argument with Dad, look in chapter two of the first book of the Feynman Lectures on Physics. There's a quote there about how philosophers say a great deal about what science absolutely requires, and it is all wrong, because the only rule in science is that the final arbiter is observation - that you just have to look at the world and report what you see.

Observations are always theory dependent, or "theory-laden". How you "report" things is based on your theoretical assumptions. Read Thomas Kuhn. Check mate, Rationalists.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

Leatham's and Dao's (/Bern's) trial is delayed yet again.

Setbacks delay ‘Zizian’ attempted murder trial confirmations (Archive)​

Leatham was thrown out for making a scene again, as expected.

Leatham, a transgender woman, is known for outbursts during their courtroom appearances and frequently needs to be removed from hearings. At Monday’s hearing, they started repeatedly shouting, “Curtis Lind murdered Emma Borhanian,” once in the presence of Judge John Ellis, referring to the death of another person present during Lind’s attempted murder.

However, Suri Dao/Tessa Berns has been starving herself and is in a wheelchair.

While Monday’s court date was scheduled to be a trial confirmation hearing, Ellis decided to delay the confirmation and other motions brought by the attorneys until Dec. 8, as Dao was incapacitated, and her attorney Brian Ford was available only via Zoom.

On Nov. 26, Ford requested an emergency hearing with Ellis due to his client’s health.

At the hearing, Jordan Alarcon, a psychiatric registered nurse and the director of nursing at Wellpath, the jail’s medical provider, told the court via Zoom of Dao’s declining condition.

Alarcon said Dao had lost 32 pounds since September, due to “restrictive anorexia,” and had an electrolyte imbalance. He said she developed a pressure ulcer on her hip and buttock area because she was “laying down in feces and urine” and refused to get up. Her condition, Alarcon said, could lead to cardiac arrhythmia, increased likelihood of stroke and possibly death.

“If they stay in jail, their condition will continue to decline,” Alarcon said.

Ellis noted Dao was unresponsive when she was wheeled into the courtroom by a few officers, and Ford asked if his client was still “vegetative.”

“I can’t tell if it is on purpose,” said Ellis. “It looks like it might be.”

Alcaron said Dao refused to take most of her psychiatric medication and antibiotics.

“I’m going to be compelled to get them out of jail after what I’m hearing from the jail staff,” said Ellis.

Prosecutor Ilana Shapiro said she was hesitant to delay the trial any further.

Ellis considered where Dao could be moved to receive more intensive care without leaving the county and said there is an avenue to have Solano County Sheriff Brad DeWall mandate a certain facility. The California Medical Facility in Vacaville was floated as the most likely option.

Dao has attempted escape before, but starving yourself into the hospital seems like it may be too insane as an escape plan, even for a Zizian. I think.

 

[NoReturn]

Leatham was thrown out for making a scene again, as expected.

>Ellis noted Dao was unresponsive when she was wheeled into the courtroom by a few officers, and Ford asked if his client was still “vegetative.”​

>“I can’t tell if it is on purpose,” said Ellis. “It looks like it might be.”​

If you accept the decorum of the court, you accept the court is legitimate and has power over you.
If you act like a complete, non-compliant retard, then you are creating the only possibility that you COULD be a non-compliant retard, and there is no timeline where you would obey the judge.

 

[Stan]

But, according to Timeless Decision Theory, Ziz would have known that MIRI was the type of organization that could be "blackmailed", ergo he would not have donated one cent.

This decision theory doesn’t make sense. It’s like if one reacts negatively enough to things that have already happened they don’t happen in other timelines? Like if one were to murder enough chicken farmers here and now it’d be a deterrent to chicken farming in alternative timelines and all those chickens would have never had to live and die?
Why do I care about alternate timelines?? I can’t just punch a hole into one of those like I’m Rick and go live in some kinda vegan paradise where draft animals never happened. (Because extra dimensional actors will punish you for having them? Or an AI will make you regret that choice later on in your timeline as if you can appreciate that in the here and now? Roko’s Basilisk??)
Idk I guess I’m too stupid to get it fam. I’ll never be so enlightened as to lure my friends to violent deaths and capital indictments.

I would kind of like to bring a bunch of Carl’s Jr to one of these rationalist meetups and see how well this half baked philosophy stands up to the smell of grilled beef.

 

[Positron]

Why do I care about alternate timelines?? I can’t just punch a hole into one of those like I’m Rick and go live in some kinda vegan paradise where draft animals never happened. (Because extra dimensional actors will punish you for having them? Or an AI will make you regret that choice later on in your timeline as if you can appreciate that in the here and now? Roko’s Basilisk??)
Idk I guess I’m too stupid to get it fam. I’ll never be so enlightened as to lure my friends to violent deaths and capital indictments.

What if some of the timelines contain an anti-Basilisk, a artificial superintelligence that makes it its sole mission to punish the humans who brought it into being?

 

[Greedy Fly]

Dao has attempted escape before, but starving yourself into the hospital seems like it may be too insane as an escape plan, even for a Zizian. I think.

Dao is the sole pooner in the group, right? Is there anything more feminine than anorexia?