GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Forklift Certified said:
Also also... beside china the goat fuckers awfully quiet... Yeah they buying shits left and right with the oil money but seriously non of them had some brain power to pour some Cash in domestic electronic manufacturing? Last thing i heard from them was that Dubai chocolate stunt... or im out of touch about the sand people?
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Ayyrabs have the blessing of the infinite oil free money glitch but they lack any long-term planning skills so they don't have any other industry. If you're a small nation you won't have enough human beings to mass produce goods, so you need to pick niche industries on the tech tree that are necessary but not really popular. Do they have the IQ and vision necessary to reform their society like Singapore? Probably not, they worship a pedophile and they're all inbred lol
 
Blackhole said:
Ayyrabs have the blessing of the infinite oil free money glitch but they lack any long-term planning skills so they don't have any other industry. If you're a small nation you won't have enough human beings to mass produce goods, so you need to pick niche industries on the tech tree that are necessary but not really popular. Do they have the IQ and vision necessary to reform their society like Singapore? Probably not, they worship a pedophile and they're all inbred lol
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arabs can definitely get their shit together when given the opportunity judging by large swaths of history but the current state of affairs is definitely the result of the entire arab world worshiping the authority of the house of saud more than the word of mohammad because they control mecca. they have no interest in actually providing the structure necessary to be anything more than filthy rich bellhops for god's authority
 
The Ugly One said:
Except you were running RDP on a computer with an operating system.
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You gotta think different man. The system will network boot (or maybe have just a tiny bit of local storage like 2-4gb to store that uefi-like streaming client) into a low level uefi-like HAL that will connect to the server which will stream the desktop running remotely on the servers. It'll have just enough CPU ram and GPU to do this. It'll be an AIO where the streaming client hardware is inside the display. Hell it all might even be on one single chip like phone hardware.

You won't be able to do anything with this local hardware except turn it on and off.
 
Big Fat Orange Cat said:
You gotta think different man. The system will network boot (or maybe have just a tiny bit of local storage like 2-4gb to store that uefi-like streaming client) into a low level uefi-like HAL that will connect to the server which will stream the desktop running remotely on the servers. It'll have just enough CPU ram and GPU to do this. It'll be an AIO where the streaming client hardware is inside the display. Hell it all might even be on one single chip like phone hardware.

You won't be able to do anything with this local hardware except turn it on and off.
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I repeat: Renting a remote computer isn't the same as a remote operating system.

Currently, you can do exactly what you describe. An 8-core VM on Azure hosted on an Ice Lake Xeon costs about $300/month. So now I repeat again: Making everyone leave the desktop and use a thin client to log into a cloud VM is the hottest idea of 2012. The exact idea you are describing has already been conceived, hatched, and killed. Nobody bit. Cloud VMs have a use case, but they're too expensive and unpleasant to replace the home desktop. The big promise of cloud from the 2010s was that it would ultimately be cheaper than local compute, and this turned out to be false in the general case, although true in certain specific cases.

Desktop Windows isn't going away because enterprise clients demand it, and enterprise clients tell Microsoft what they are going to buy, not the other way around. If Microsoft tries to force the issue, it will end Windows as the desktop OS of choice, not the desktop. The company that would make the most money off Microsoft attempting to kill the desktop is Apple.
 
Big Fat Orange Cat said:
You gotta think different man. The system will network boot (or maybe have just a tiny bit of local storage like 2-4gb to store that uefi-like streaming client) into a low level uefi-like HAL that will connect to the server which will stream the desktop running remotely on the servers. It'll have just enough CPU ram and GPU to do this. It'll be an AIO where the streaming client hardware is inside the display. Hell it all might even be on one single chip like phone hardware.

You won't be able to do anything with this local hardware except turn it on and off.
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We had these when I was in high school like fifteen years ago, they had a bunch of thin client terminals in the library. They were brand new and absolutely fucking unusable because they were so slow, worse than the old g3 macs in the media lab nobody touched. The display was like 1024x768 stretched out and dithered color so it looked like shit

admittedly that is a mainframe type setup and not really cloud style but the only difference is how long the wires are really. Would the latency be unusable? I mean, yeah probably, but that didn't stop the school from spending a couple hundred thousand dollars on that junk so I'm surprised people aren't trying to bring it back with the power of AI
 
GlupShitto said:

Everyday I'm thankful that I built my PC before this nonsense started. I genuinely don't know what the future holds for PC gaming because I imagine once stuff like this happens, it won't be worth porting games to PC because that market share won't be capable of growing.
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This is going to affect consoles as well. It's just that DIY desktops sort of are the canary in the coalmine here.
 
GlupShitto said:
Everyday I'm thankful that I built my PC before this nonsense started. I genuinely don't know what the future holds for PC gaming because I imagine once stuff like this happens, it won't be worth porting games to PC because that market share won't be capable of growing.
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There have been plenty of predictions of the death of PC gaming. This won't do it if the damage is mostly contained to 2026, and not say, 2028. Gaymers can likely get by with 16 GB of RAM, check YouTube for RAM tests.

It's easier than ever to port now that the big 2 are x86 SoCs with a few special features.

48-64 GB RAM, 24 GB VRAM could be mainstream for early-mid 2030s PC gaming to keep up with next-gen consoles. But if there are specs-down versions like a 1080p PS6 handheld, that could help keep requirements in check for a 1080p60 baseline.
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
death of PC gaming
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If the crypto GPU prices have not killed PC gaming then nothing will.
People kinda forget that its absolutely feasible to sit out any upgrade a year or two or just pay the scalper prices if you have more money than brains/patience.

There is almost always an up and down with hardware. Some components will generally be the focus of some flavor of retardation for some period of time and become overpriced.
A few months later this cools down and a year or two later that same component is now cheap because something else is the scalper toy of the day.
Just upgrade whatever is not getting scalped right now and eventually the entire system will be (cheaply) upgraded over time.
After all, thats the great thing about PC gaming. You dont have to be a sucker and buy overpriced shit above value.

Especially with how shit most demanding games are anyways lol.
 
von Hapasbourg said:
It is actually a great time to upgrade CPUs now that the demand is low thanks to Altman's memory hoarding bullshit.
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I think the prices could continue to come down. Certainly Arrow Lake can fall further, especially after Arrow Lake Refresh parts that are 2% better are released. And on AMD's side, perhaps the 9850X3D will drive down the 9800X3D street pricing.
 
I looked up what happens if I put a i9-12900k or hotter 13th or 14th gen in my mobo and the answer is nothing, because heat dissipation is pushed 2 da maxxx already.
 
The Ugly One said:
Say, how's that ol' metaverse going these days? Will it run on the PS5?
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It's annoying how Facebook killed VR by making it lame. There were two different branches they could've gone with and they didn't do either:

1. Detailed 3d scans of tourist cities like Venice or Paris or St Petersburg (possibly touches up so you don't see all the trash in Paris) where it's touted as a way to do a virtual vacation, and they could partner with museums and such to offer paid virtual visits to those museums and such.

2. Virtual desktop where you basically have a keyboard and mouse and virtual monitors projected onto your vision.
 
Reuters: Exclusive: How China built its ‘Manhattan Project’ to rival the West in AI chips (archive)
  • Shenzhen team completed a working prototype of a EUV machine in early 2025, sources say
  • The lithography machine, built by former ASML engineers, fills a factory floor, sources say
  • China's EUV machine is undergoing testing, and has not produced working chips, sources say
  • Government is targeting 2028 for working chips, but sources say 2030 is more likely
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Wccftech: China Has Reportedly Built Its First EUV Machine Prototype, Marking a Semiconductor Breakthrough the U.S. Has Feared All Along (archive)
 
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