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🎨 Artcow Ellen Woodbury / Pizzacake / Pizzacakecomic - A 40 year old webcomic artist, mother, porn star, misandrist, dramacow and Reddit celebrity. Threatens to sue her critics and cuckolds her husband. Female Andrew Dobson.
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I have not followed who "Oli W" is, but they are a massive twat for denying that erections are an involuntary response to stimulation.
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Because she is a whore. Next question.
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indeed
"a second lawsuit has hit r/bonehurtingjuice. pizzacake snark is under attack"
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I thought Ellen is proud of her failed porn career.
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Whores like her are simultaneously proud of their choices and ashamed, as the mood strikes them, according to what is convenient in the moment. Moral consistency is impossible for her because she doesn't realize other human beings are fully-realized moral agents who might be in the right in a given situation.
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Is it just me, or did her artstyle get worse here?
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This is from her Patreon only, right?
Thought for a second she ended her hiatus.
Besides, where the fuck is the Mombie comic?
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If Ellen had a sense of humor she'd take all of ZBT's essays, replace the "Ellen's" with "I's" and release it as Mein Kampf 2.
Ultimate own to le trolls by just letting it all hang out.
Ultimate own to le trolls by just letting it all hang out.
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she does that already tho
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Every time I see Ellen's butt, I am reminded of Boxy Brown from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
Maybe it's all the right angles, IDK.
Maybe it's all the right angles, IDK.
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Is her ass actually that flat? People always talk about it but the archives aren't working for me. I don't need visuals, just a serious yea or nay is fine.
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It is.
If you're paying for someone's onlyfans, isn't the point of it supposed to be that the girl's hot? Why would you pay for it if she isn't?
> Being the guy that wakes up every morning and decides to keep giving pizzacake $5 a month
> ???
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I guess they think they have a chance of cucking her husband. Which may be factual for all I know.
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Paying $5 for Pizzacake does not give you her ass. Paying $12 does...
However...that is not why I am here right now.
WIP warning: This post, as a multi parter, is still under active development. I will be making a big compilaiton post with links to all the sections later down the line.
In part 3, we've begun discussing Ellen's deception tactics, most notably, strawmen, but also a whole slew of other logical fallacies and such, as well as went over Ellen's reason for using them, engagement bait. Whereas that one focused on ragebaiting, part 4 will focus on sympathy farming instead, as well as showcase Ellen's dishonest tactics in motion with the deep dive into Ellen's plagiarism and her stance on the topic.
Ellen...how do we say it...
Despite claiming to be a competent artist, that supposedly spends six hours on a single comic, as shown in her Bonus Q&A,
Ellen, very often, has to resort to a tactic that's very frowned upon amongst actual artists.
With Ellen, this takes many forms. Sometimes she will rehash an old comic of hers instead of making a new one (self plagiarism), sometimes she will take other people's memes when she doesn't feel like making a comic about that same issue again, and sometimes she will copy another person's work into her own comic. Hell, Ellen's lazyness with her works also shows through with how she makes these in the first place, using premade assets, color palettes from older comics, ect., though I will cover that when we get to Ellen's lazyness instead.
Let's start from the first one.
Ellen seems to, at least on her Reddit, operate on a quota, which mandates she must publish a comic there once every day or two (as seen in the personality manufacturing section). While this was common in the past with comic artists working for the newspapers, which had to make one every single day due to the newspaper's nature, Ellen seems to only do this for the sake of flooding Reddit with her comics.
Naturally, this means that, especially when she has an art block, she has to publish something as a holdover. This is when she pulls out her old comics. An example of that I have shown above with the period comic.
original
(archive)
reupload
(archive)
With Ellen, this takes two forms, one easier to tell from the other.
One is a straight repost, like the above. Those are easy to tell, due to one, very simple reason, and that is Ellen's art direction shift.
Easy ways to tell?
Her 2020-2021 artstyle is lineless (more smooth), more detailed, and features a more pronounced gradient on the backdrop.
Her 20222-present artstyle, most likely developed after Ellen started making work on a tablet (as seen in that fursona comic in the furry fetish section) and started caring more about the Reddit fame. It's very simple, features an almost solid color gradient (pink, blue or yellow, though almost always pink), characters have flat color clothes and the objects feature very noticeably shitty linework. It will also, very often, involve two characters, Ellen and another, standing in the same post for all of the comic, though not always, as seen here.
This here, however, does show you what I mean quite well instead.
Due to this, it's very easy to tell when something's a direct repost and what's not.
Now, to be fair, this style of reposting has since slowed down considerably. While i have found many examples of it early on, she has only really done it on Threads. There's definitely a few on Reddit, but, frankly, Google's reverse search engine sucks.
Another example:
Original.
(archive)
Repost.
(archive)
And a third one, just to drive a point home.
Original.
(archive)
Repost.
(archive)
The other, way more prevalent kind of self plagiarism, and that is her slightly reworking her older comics in order to address an ongoing issue without the need of a new comic.
An interesting thing about that is...see, Ellen has gotten criticism about it in the past.
This was under this post, from three years ago,
(archive)
which has been a rehash of this comic.
(archive)
Kek. We will get to that, eventually.
For now...just know that, this kind of rehashing is...basically half of all of her Reddit and Threads content.
Again, archiving this shit is literally pointless. There's dozens of these.
Here.
Here. (wow, zombie eyes, what a revolution)
HERE! (admitting you're self plagiarising does not change the fact that you self plagiarise)
Did I make my point yet?
No?
FiINE THEN, WE'LL HAVE A FEW MORE!
HERE!
YET ANOTHER REHASH OF THAT HATER COMIC!
ELLEN REUSING ASSETS!
GASLIGHTING 101? THAT'S INDEED CORRECT, JUST NOT IN THE WAY YOU EXPECTED PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT!
ELLEN STRAIGHT UP GIVING YOU BLANK TEMPLATES SO YOU CAN MAKE UP NEW COMICS! (but do not do that, actually, or you will get sued)
DO I SOUND LIKE I'M GOING INSANE YET, SEEING HOW MUCH SHE RIPS HERSELF OFF?
NO?
WELL THEN, HAVE THE LAST THING I WILL SHARE IN THIS SUBSECTION, BECAUSE, SHORTLY AFTER GETTING CALLED OUT FOR HER HONEYMOON VENT, SHE STRAIGHT UP SHAT OUT THE SAME COMIC SEVEN TIMES!
(archive)
"hey-"
WHAT?
"I'm so, so sorry for interrupting your autistic schizo rant, but that's six comics, not sev-"
SHUT UP, SHUT UP, JUST SHUT UP! I WAS GETTING TO IT!
SHE MADE A FUCKING SEVENTH VERSION OF HER THREADS, FEATURING SNOOP DOG!
(archive)
OF COURSE, SHE WAS SO LAZY WITH THIS ONE, SHE JUST PASTED SNOOP DOG'S FACE ONTO THIS GUY'S ORIGINAL FACE!
HELL, EVEN I DO BETTER EDITS THAN THIS!
...where am I...is this Hell?
...
...
...
...oh, wait, no, this is just Kiwi Farms, I was writing a post, right.
...i'd say "I'll have a leak and come back to talking about this", but, then again, considering the kinda leaks I have to deal with here, with Pizzacake, I'd rather not wish upon more roast beef for me...
So...that'd be it for self plagiarism, at least for here. Her using premade assets is mostly something for the lazyness section. This, on the other hand, also examined her attitude to the "reworks".
But, of course, she doesn't just masturbate.
She also fucks.
The least rapey kind of fucking people over is the rampant meme stealing, which she practices the most over at Threads.
Again, I don't think I even need to link these, as they are just so. fucking. common.
Of course, this is not actually, like, wrong or anything, at least not by itself. Memes are, after all, meant to be spread around on the internet, just like real memes.
The issue stems from when Ellen purposefuly spreads misinfo using these.
(archive)
Of course, her fans, when they realised that this following image was fabricated, started bashing her for it instead.
...
Yeah, no, who am I kidding, they instead declared the factcheckers to be lying instead!
Hell, many of them are choosing to believe in this, because why the fuck would they not? It doesn't matter if it's real or not, what matters is that it cements my limited worldview!
And...we will get to it, Ellen's use of gayness as a comedic punchline is truly insulting to me, as a bisexual man, I wouldn't pass this opportunity to tell her what she did to me by cultivating her misandric audience to hate gay men.
Of course, by spreading dumb internet memes, you can only do so much damage, unless they're pizzahurtingjuices, in which case, you get a death sentence.
What's really insulting is when Ellen directly rips off another person's work.
Now, there's an argument to be made that no work is truly original. I sorta agree with it, actually. However, the stuff I'm gonna be sharing here is particularly egregious, either because it copies a joke that's been done to death and tries to pass it off as an original one, is traced from another source, or is so specific that it had to come from another source.
First, her tracing.
I think the most obvious tell for Ellen's tracing actually relates back to the quality of her art.
See...I have discussed Ellen's porn before. All of it truly disgusts me.
However, there's one work that has a semblance of being actually hot. Sexy. Attractive.
A work that actually has correct proportions and that is well drawn.
It is this work.
(archive)
(kemono)
And it is traced.
Simply put, if something looks too good to be drawn by Ellen, it is not.
I do not have a lot of examples for it, mostly due to the fact that finding evidence of tracing is almost impossible, even with AI.
There are, however, three big cases that are very conrete on this.
First is this comic.
(archive)
This section of it, specifically.
It appears as if Ellen just went into Google and, quite amateurly, if I may add, traced a couple of real tennis player poses, most likely from Shutterstock.
Why amateurly?
I'm sorry, but with those ankles, you don't have to worry about your knees.
The other, and one people have actually pointed out, was this one.
(archive)
Besides screaming "Hey, I watched that episode of South Park!"...
What the fuck is that?
Now, I'd give Ellen the benefit of the doubt that she wanted to portray Kristi Noem as being utterly stupid with guns.
"I'd"
Hell, the instagram people agree.
(archive)
...but that goes out of the window once you realise that Ellen was completely serious about it.
In fact, now deleted because Ellen's a wuss, but she shared a reference photo she had used...
...as you can see, Ellen is absolutely blind.
The third time is probably the worst of them all, however.
But for that, I'll need to provide you some context.
Pen Plays is a youtube channel ran by three people. Pizzacake, Hollering Elk(...one of the two I found...both link to her other profiles...), whom I will discuss in the contempt section, since she was involved in some of the drama...and Colm's Comics, all big r/comics posters.
It was a typical "a few artists draw" channel like many, except, while all of those other channels do it in real time, all of the Pen Pals content was prerecorded.
All three of the artists had a goal to draw something, based on another artist's prompt, they'd then show their timelapse to all the others, talking over it, then display their art at the end, with the end of the video displaying all of the works made in the video, with the comment section voting on their favourite, the winner would then be declared at the start of the following Pen Pals episode.
You'd think that the fact it was prerecorded would lead to the art being a lot more inspired and more high effort...this was a case for some of the artists.
Not for Pizzacake.
I have already shown you one of Ellen's art pieces from this series, but I will have to go into more detail about this one...
The episode is "Drawing Creepypastas Monsters (with After Death Comics)".
The theme of it is, as the name suggests, copyright-free, original creepypasta monsters.
Colm drew this, their whole squad as monsters.
Elk drew this.
AiDs (the guest star) drew this.
Ellen?
Ellen did not do that.
She started off strong, hell, what I'm not showing you is other people actually praising her, with Ellen going ""LOL, Pizzacake's gonna screw up, just like always." Well, guess what.".
However, as she drew, people realised something...
See, before the drawing began, Ellen got given the prompt for "a being of flesh and metal", that "produces a deafening sound"...so Sirenhead.
Instead, she proceeded to draw...Bender.
Her justification? "all of the big copypastas feature fictional characters1"
She literally went against the rules of the challenge because she "couldn't think of anything". Nice creativity there for an artist.
Not only that, she then proceeded to stamp her watermark on it, saying that, since she drew it, it's now her intellectual property...
Oh, we'll get to her stance on copyright infringement later, but is is funny, considering her walls of DMCA complaints.
Is that the right time to tell you that this work is traced?
Yes, her drawing, featured in an episode of a drawing podcast, was not only violating the rules of the episode, but was also traced.
We will, thus, move onto Ellen's joke plagiarism.
And what better joke plagiarism to start off with than the one that the edit of got her the r/peterexplainsthejoke callout a few weeks back?
Here's the original, however. We will get to the r/peterexplainsthejoke thing when we get to her persecution complex, then touch up on it again in child endangerment.
(archive)
Joke stolen from The Cleveland Show.
Another instance of the same joke, from Extra Fabulous Comics.
...oh dear, the period comic is stolen too? It pops up in my posts far too often.
Something a bit different, Ellen actually called out another creator for plagiarism!
(archive)
...wait, something not right.
Why does this comment show as deleted? Ellen couldn't possibly have had a take so moronic, it warranted a comment deletion?
Oh well, guess I will have to pull it up this way.
This is not even an original joke. I'd post way more of these if I could find them again, pity r/pizzacakesnark post on it inevitably got deleted alongside the rest of it.
Now...something that makes this even funnier?
Literally the same exact day, right before that plagiarism callout comic, Ellen published this comic of hers.
(archive)
This comic...is plagiarised. This is a very common pro LGBT rights joke.
That's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off for her!
She also stole her dress comic punchline from her bloody sister.
(archive)
no source for the other one though, as the r/pizzacakesnark post on it got deleted and it'd require finding her sis's actual Facebook again, which I do not wanna do for privacy sake, something Ellen should learn from.
The final comic I want to bring up in this section is her Body Positivity comic...again...yay.
See...we all know it was an outlet for her obsession with curves, her exhibitionist urgers...but we do not talk about something else.
When she originally posted the first part of that comic on Reddit, as bait to make her fans sub to her Patreon...she got overwhelmingly negative comments.
Why?
Here's the archive link, which I have purposefuly used an old version of the archive for.
If we go there instead...we will find that...people have caught onto the fact that the comic was one big plagiarism.
Specifically, a reference to this very infamous meme.
So infamous, in fact, that it has its own category on rule34.xxx, i_wanna_suck_her_fat_titties_.
Her longest running, and her second longest comic series...is plagiarism.
Yeah...fun.
Now, why does all of this matter? Why is it so important to the artists that their work is credited?
It's simple.
When you're a small comic artist, or just someone who admires Ellen, and you see that she stole your work, something you worked hard on...it's painful. Devastating, even.
But, of course, you can't do anything about it, for a very simple reason.
You're a small comic artist. Ellen has a way bigger following than you. She can just silence any and all criticism she wants on a whim.
Do you think you stand any chance against her? Of course not.
This has been something that has plagued artists for years, and there are very little cases of original artists winning plagiarism lawsuits. They all lose. Hbomberguy made a great video talking about this, that also went into big detail into another person, very simillar to Ellen, who exploited his fellow queer community by stealing other queer people's books, articles, blogs, and repackaging them into his Youtube essays, without any credit.
Hell, some of those people, those same creators that James Somerton ripped off in his video, were actually Patreon supporters of him.
What do you imagine their reaction was, when they saw their favourite creator made a new video, they watched it, then they waited, in shock, as he directly read off their work while giving them no credit, stealing it all for himself?
It's genuinely terrifying.
And they only got retribution after Hbomberguy made that video.
When someone actually gave a fuck about that person.
When someone went against him, despite any prior form of criticism of him being deemed as "being a hater", "being a homophobe", "being a nazi".
When someone broke through the shield of other people's tragedies, defending his exploiting, not caring about other human beings, self.
And Ellen, albeit not to the same extent, is also guilty of this, whenether she censors her fellow comic artists by removing their posts, whenether she steals their work, whenether she lies to their faces about something she did to them.
And that's just plagiarism. We have already went over her various sexual perversions. Her Kali's morality. Everything else I'll be talking about later will add up onto this. This is not over.
It's truly despicable...especially since, in all of those instances, Ellen will insist that *she's* the victim.
Ahhh... this is so funny to read now.
(archive)
And so does this.
(archive)
AI may steal people's content...but so do you...
Despite claiming to be a competent artist, that supposedly spends six hours on a single comic, as shown in her Bonus Q&A,
Ellen, very often, has to resort to a tactic that's very frowned upon amongst actual artists.
Yeah, I added the second paragraph there for a reason. We will get to why later.
With Ellen, this takes many forms. Sometimes she will rehash an old comic of hers instead of making a new one (self plagiarism), sometimes she will take other people's memes when she doesn't feel like making a comic about that same issue again, and sometimes she will copy another person's work into her own comic. Hell, Ellen's lazyness with her works also shows through with how she makes these in the first place, using premade assets, color palettes from older comics, ect., though I will cover that when we get to Ellen's lazyness instead.
Let's start from the first one.
Ellen seems to, at least on her Reddit, operate on a quota, which mandates she must publish a comic there once every day or two (as seen in the personality manufacturing section). While this was common in the past with comic artists working for the newspapers, which had to make one every single day due to the newspaper's nature, Ellen seems to only do this for the sake of flooding Reddit with her comics.
Naturally, this means that, especially when she has an art block, she has to publish something as a holdover. This is when she pulls out her old comics. An example of that I have shown above with the period comic.
original
(archive)
reupload
(archive)
With Ellen, this takes two forms, one easier to tell from the other.
One is a straight repost, like the above. Those are easy to tell, due to one, very simple reason, and that is Ellen's art direction shift.
Easy ways to tell?
Her 2020-2021 artstyle is lineless (more smooth), more detailed, and features a more pronounced gradient on the backdrop.
Her 20222-present artstyle, most likely developed after Ellen started making work on a tablet (as seen in that fursona comic in the furry fetish section) and started caring more about the Reddit fame. It's very simple, features an almost solid color gradient (pink, blue or yellow, though almost always pink), characters have flat color clothes and the objects feature very noticeably shitty linework. It will also, very often, involve two characters, Ellen and another, standing in the same post for all of the comic, though not always, as seen here.
This here, however, does show you what I mean quite well instead.
Due to this, it's very easy to tell when something's a direct repost and what's not.
Now, to be fair, this style of reposting has since slowed down considerably. While i have found many examples of it early on, she has only really done it on Threads. There's definitely a few on Reddit, but, frankly, Google's reverse search engine sucks.
Another example:
Original.
(archive)
Repost.
(archive)
And a third one, just to drive a point home.
Original.
(archive)
Repost.
(archive)
The other, way more prevalent kind of self plagiarism, and that is her slightly reworking her older comics in order to address an ongoing issue without the need of a new comic.
An interesting thing about that is...see, Ellen has gotten criticism about it in the past.
This was under this post, from three years ago,
(archive)
which has been a rehash of this comic.
(archive)
Kek. We will get to that, eventually.
For now...just know that, this kind of rehashing is...basically half of all of her Reddit and Threads content.
Again, archiving this shit is literally pointless. There's dozens of these.
Here.
Here. (wow, zombie eyes, what a revolution)
HERE! (admitting you're self plagiarising does not change the fact that you self plagiarise)
Did I make my point yet?
No?
FiINE THEN, WE'LL HAVE A FEW MORE!
HERE!
YET ANOTHER REHASH OF THAT HATER COMIC!
ELLEN REUSING ASSETS!
GASLIGHTING 101? THAT'S INDEED CORRECT, JUST NOT IN THE WAY YOU EXPECTED PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT!
ELLEN STRAIGHT UP GIVING YOU BLANK TEMPLATES SO YOU CAN MAKE UP NEW COMICS! (but do not do that, actually, or you will get sued)
DO I SOUND LIKE I'M GOING INSANE YET, SEEING HOW MUCH SHE RIPS HERSELF OFF?
NO?
WELL THEN, HAVE THE LAST THING I WILL SHARE IN THIS SUBSECTION, BECAUSE, SHORTLY AFTER GETTING CALLED OUT FOR HER HONEYMOON VENT, SHE STRAIGHT UP SHAT OUT THE SAME COMIC SEVEN TIMES!
(archive)
"hey-"
WHAT?
"I'm so, so sorry for interrupting your autistic schizo rant, but that's six comics, not sev-"
SHUT UP, SHUT UP, JUST SHUT UP! I WAS GETTING TO IT!
SHE MADE A FUCKING SEVENTH VERSION OF HER THREADS, FEATURING SNOOP DOG!
(archive)
OF COURSE, SHE WAS SO LAZY WITH THIS ONE, SHE JUST PASTED SNOOP DOG'S FACE ONTO THIS GUY'S ORIGINAL FACE!
HELL, EVEN I DO BETTER EDITS THAN THIS!
...where am I...is this Hell?
...
...
...
...oh, wait, no, this is just Kiwi Farms, I was writing a post, right.
...i'd say "I'll have a leak and come back to talking about this", but, then again, considering the kinda leaks I have to deal with here, with Pizzacake, I'd rather not wish upon more roast beef for me...
So...that'd be it for self plagiarism, at least for here. Her using premade assets is mostly something for the lazyness section. This, on the other hand, also examined her attitude to the "reworks".
But, of course, she doesn't just masturbate.
She also fucks.
The least rapey kind of fucking people over is the rampant meme stealing, which she practices the most over at Threads.
Again, I don't think I even need to link these, as they are just so. fucking. common.
Of course, this is not actually, like, wrong or anything, at least not by itself. Memes are, after all, meant to be spread around on the internet, just like real memes.
The issue stems from when Ellen purposefuly spreads misinfo using these.
(archive)
Of course, her fans, when they realised that this following image was fabricated, started bashing her for it instead.
...
Yeah, no, who am I kidding, they instead declared the factcheckers to be lying instead!
Hell, many of them are choosing to believe in this, because why the fuck would they not? It doesn't matter if it's real or not, what matters is that it cements my limited worldview!
And...we will get to it, Ellen's use of gayness as a comedic punchline is truly insulting to me, as a bisexual man, I wouldn't pass this opportunity to tell her what she did to me by cultivating her misandric audience to hate gay men.
Of course, by spreading dumb internet memes, you can only do so much damage, unless they're pizzahurtingjuices, in which case, you get a death sentence.
What's really insulting is when Ellen directly rips off another person's work.
Now, there's an argument to be made that no work is truly original. I sorta agree with it, actually. However, the stuff I'm gonna be sharing here is particularly egregious, either because it copies a joke that's been done to death and tries to pass it off as an original one, is traced from another source, or is so specific that it had to come from another source.
First, her tracing.
I think the most obvious tell for Ellen's tracing actually relates back to the quality of her art.
See...I have discussed Ellen's porn before. All of it truly disgusts me.
However, there's one work that has a semblance of being actually hot. Sexy. Attractive.
A work that actually has correct proportions and that is well drawn.
It is this work.
(archive)
(kemono)
This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.
I do not have a lot of examples for it, mostly due to the fact that finding evidence of tracing is almost impossible, even with AI.
There are, however, three big cases that are very conrete on this.
First is this comic.
(archive)
This section of it, specifically.
It appears as if Ellen just went into Google and, quite amateurly, if I may add, traced a couple of real tennis player poses, most likely from Shutterstock.
Why amateurly?
I'm sorry, but with those ankles, you don't have to worry about your knees.
The other, and one people have actually pointed out, was this one.
(archive)
Besides screaming "Hey, I watched that episode of South Park!"...
What the fuck is that?
Now, I'd give Ellen the benefit of the doubt that she wanted to portray Kristi Noem as being utterly stupid with guns.
"I'd"
Hell, the instagram people agree.
(archive)
...but that goes out of the window once you realise that Ellen was completely serious about it.
In fact, now deleted because Ellen's a wuss, but she shared a reference photo she had used...
...as you can see, Ellen is absolutely blind.
The third time is probably the worst of them all, however.
But for that, I'll need to provide you some context.
Pen Plays is a youtube channel ran by three people. Pizzacake, Hollering Elk(...one of the two I found...both link to her other profiles...), whom I will discuss in the contempt section, since she was involved in some of the drama...and Colm's Comics, all big r/comics posters.
It was a typical "a few artists draw" channel like many, except, while all of those other channels do it in real time, all of the Pen Pals content was prerecorded.
All three of the artists had a goal to draw something, based on another artist's prompt, they'd then show their timelapse to all the others, talking over it, then display their art at the end, with the end of the video displaying all of the works made in the video, with the comment section voting on their favourite, the winner would then be declared at the start of the following Pen Pals episode.
You'd think that the fact it was prerecorded would lead to the art being a lot more inspired and more high effort...this was a case for some of the artists.
Not for Pizzacake.
I have already shown you one of Ellen's art pieces from this series, but I will have to go into more detail about this one...
The episode is "Drawing Creepypastas Monsters (with After Death Comics)".
Colm drew this, their whole squad as monsters.
Elk drew this.
AiDs (the guest star) drew this.
Ellen?
Ellen did not do that.
She started off strong, hell, what I'm not showing you is other people actually praising her, with Ellen going ""LOL, Pizzacake's gonna screw up, just like always." Well, guess what.".
However, as she drew, people realised something...
See, before the drawing began, Ellen got given the prompt for "a being of flesh and metal", that "produces a deafening sound"...so Sirenhead.
Instead, she proceeded to draw...Bender.
Her justification? "all of the big copypastas feature fictional characters1"
She literally went against the rules of the challenge because she "couldn't think of anything". Nice creativity there for an artist.
Not only that, she then proceeded to stamp her watermark on it, saying that, since she drew it, it's now her intellectual property...
Oh, we'll get to her stance on copyright infringement later, but is is funny, considering her walls of DMCA complaints.
Is that the right time to tell you that this work is traced?
Yes, her drawing, featured in an episode of a drawing podcast, was not only violating the rules of the episode, but was also traced.
We will, thus, move onto Ellen's joke plagiarism.
And what better joke plagiarism to start off with than the one that the edit of got her the r/peterexplainsthejoke callout a few weeks back?
Here's the original, however. We will get to the r/peterexplainsthejoke thing when we get to her persecution complex, then touch up on it again in child endangerment.
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Joke stolen from The Cleveland Show.
Another instance of the same joke, from Extra Fabulous Comics.
...oh dear, the period comic is stolen too? It pops up in my posts far too often.
Something a bit different, Ellen actually called out another creator for plagiarism!
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...wait, something not right.
Why does this comment show as deleted? Ellen couldn't possibly have had a take so moronic, it warranted a comment deletion?
Oh well, guess I will have to pull it up this way.
This is not even an original joke. I'd post way more of these if I could find them again, pity r/pizzacakesnark post on it inevitably got deleted alongside the rest of it.
Now...something that makes this even funnier?
Literally the same exact day, right before that plagiarism callout comic, Ellen published this comic of hers.
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This comic...is plagiarised. This is a very common pro LGBT rights joke.
That's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off for her!
She also stole her dress comic punchline from her bloody sister.
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no source for the other one though, as the r/pizzacakesnark post on it got deleted and it'd require finding her sis's actual Facebook again, which I do not wanna do for privacy sake, something Ellen should learn from.
The final comic I want to bring up in this section is her Body Positivity comic...again...yay.
See...we all know it was an outlet for her obsession with curves, her exhibitionist urgers...but we do not talk about something else.
When she originally posted the first part of that comic on Reddit, as bait to make her fans sub to her Patreon...she got overwhelmingly negative comments.
Why?
Here's the archive link, which I have purposefuly used an old version of the archive for.
If we go there instead...we will find that...people have caught onto the fact that the comic was one big plagiarism.
Specifically, a reference to this very infamous meme.
So infamous, in fact, that it has its own category on rule34.xxx, i_wanna_suck_her_fat_titties_.
Her longest running, and her second longest comic series...is plagiarism.
Yeah...fun.
Now, why does all of this matter? Why is it so important to the artists that their work is credited?
It's simple.
When you're a small comic artist, or just someone who admires Ellen, and you see that she stole your work, something you worked hard on...it's painful. Devastating, even.
But, of course, you can't do anything about it, for a very simple reason.
You're a small comic artist. Ellen has a way bigger following than you. She can just silence any and all criticism she wants on a whim.
Do you think you stand any chance against her? Of course not.
This has been something that has plagued artists for years, and there are very little cases of original artists winning plagiarism lawsuits. They all lose. Hbomberguy made a great video talking about this, that also went into big detail into another person, very simillar to Ellen, who exploited his fellow queer community by stealing other queer people's books, articles, blogs, and repackaging them into his Youtube essays, without any credit.
What do you imagine their reaction was, when they saw their favourite creator made a new video, they watched it, then they waited, in shock, as he directly read off their work while giving them no credit, stealing it all for himself?
It's genuinely terrifying.
And they only got retribution after Hbomberguy made that video.
When someone actually gave a fuck about that person.
When someone went against him, despite any prior form of criticism of him being deemed as "being a hater", "being a homophobe", "being a nazi".
When someone broke through the shield of other people's tragedies, defending his exploiting, not caring about other human beings, self.
And Ellen, albeit not to the same extent, is also guilty of this, whenether she censors her fellow comic artists by removing their posts, whenether she steals their work, whenether she lies to their faces about something she did to them.
And that's just plagiarism. We have already went over her various sexual perversions. Her Kali's morality. Everything else I'll be talking about later will add up onto this. This is not over.
It's truly despicable...especially since, in all of those instances, Ellen will insist that *she's* the victim.
Ahhh... this is so funny to read now.
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And so does this.
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AI may steal people's content...but so do you...
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Ellen suffers from it to an extent that can be classified as a full blown paraphilia, a persecution fetish. She will not merely use the already existing drama to manufacture sympathy for herself, but outright make up stuff to get worked up about.
Ellen has shown, fully well, that all of her internet activity is spent either ragebaiting, or sympathy farming. I will go into more detail on her responses to dramas and using other people's tragedies for it in later sections, because those actually, y'know, had genuine reasons to get mad about them. The hater comic discourse did get her banned from Patreon for a week. The Based if True drama did get her doxxed, albeit in retaliation.
I think there are, however, two examples of Ellen's persecution fetish, ones that are very recent, that show it off in way more detail than I could show otherwise.
The Honeymoon Drama, and the Operation Snark Sink.
Allow me to explain the Honemoon Drama first.
See, Jeff and Ellen, despite being together for 15 years, as shown off in many comics, and despite using the terms "husband" and "wife" to refer to themselves, as depicted in some of her older comics (will have its own section later down the line, focusing on it), never actually married.
Ellen announced the plans to do so on her Threads in a one-off post.
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She, later, uploaded this picture from the Niagara Falls, where the two went for the wedding.
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Then, this cat pic, confirming that she went on vacation once more...why would she only say this on her Threads and Patreon tho, and not anywhere else? Did she want people on Reddit not to dig into her further?
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She also uploaded that "Turning Heads" comic I brought up in the deviancy section ealrier onto all of her social medias, including Patreon.
A few days later, also on Patreon, only on Patreon, she published this announcement, titled "Vacation".
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She would then post two posts relating to those vacations, but in a broader sense.
While she posted this comic on all of her platforms, I will bring up the Patreon version of this comic for one particular reason.
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See, the description of this comic states that it's based on real events.
Ellen was spending her vacation time in the woods and brought her daughter along.
This, then, became concerning, when we learned of her vacation spot.
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The fact they not only took their kids with them, to a small getaway like that...which may or may not be a honeymoon, and shot porn there as well...since they most definitely fucked...the kids probably heard it all through the thin wooden walls.
In addition to these revelations, however, Ellen kept us occupied in yet another way...
See, while all of this was going on, on her vacation, need I remind you...Ellen REALLY ramped up her nazi calling game.
Ellen had a shit ton of issues with taking criticism prior, but the way she pumped out hate speech...is real impressive.
I will be making this more amusive by giving you complete rundown of the fallacies on display here.
Assume every of the following is a strawman unless I say otherwise.
"Undecided"
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Now, this is loaded. This actually showcases multiple logical fallacies on display in tandem.
The big one is, of course, false dichotomy, which I have touched upon previously.
Second, albeit I want to relate it to all of Ellen's comics featuring the terms "nazi" without it being about actual nazis, this comic also is a display of guilt by association.
Then, the third one, motte and bailey fallacy.
An even better example of that fallacy, however, is actually seen in Ellen's next post.
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This, however, also is a yet another example of a tactic that Ellen does, albeit not on purpose.
See, she may be poisoning the well by calling people nazis, but there's also another problem with it.
I made a quick comic to demonstrate it.
By calling eveyrone she doesn't like nazis, she is inadvertantly ignoring the actual nazis running around and thus rendering the term "nazi" moot.
Yet another proof she doesn't care about politics.
...by going over her posts alone, for my own sanity, I will inevitably have to bring up this, and that is, her war with r/doomerciclejerk that happened around that point.
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Oh, the irony.
Let's show you what actually happened then, shall we?
See, this post was made on r/doomercirclejerk, a post dedicated to "doomers", a group of people proclaiming the apocalypse is happening and actively spreading the word of upcoming doom.
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I will touch upon that part of Ellen later, but just read the comments on this one, I cannot give them enough justice. One glance at them and you know that Ellen did not take well to this.
Another post documented this, as well as the response to the drama over on Twitter.
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This, then, lead to the posts of Ellen we saw above, where she played the victim and accused r/doomercirclejerk of being ran by nazi symphatizers.
Another comic.
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If I didn't know any better, I'd think it's a pro gun satire.
Then, a comic that I have already touched up on when I covered the circular reasoning fallacy.
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...yeah, thank me for spoilering this, both she and the OP put this comic (a comic depicting Donald Trump giving a blowjob to Putin) onto Reddit with no NSFW flair...
Next comic.
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This one actually depicts a fallacy, slippery slope.
Don't even get me started on her Threads activity. That commits every logical fallacy in the book whilst providing no actual debunkings of anything.
Let's do a rapid round of them, shall we?
...oh, you don't want to?
Too bad, suffer.
First, this comic, related to the Tea app being used as a harassment tool.
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The irony...
Then, this post.
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Ellen'd expand on it later, but she seems to believe that, if she sees her commenters use a symbol she associates with people she despises (not shit like swastikas, mind you), she will automatically believe they're a part of that group. Faulty generalisation.
Besides, Ellen here is depicted doing the exact same thing she's accusing them of doing...
I think it's a good time to bring up something Ellen does a lot, related to her persecution fetish...
Projection.
The most standard definition for it goes as follows.
One of them is right in her next post.
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The latest Scott The Woz video has a joke in it that perfectly encapsulates this comment's message.
...how many more?
dear fuck.
This post then.
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I think that, by this point, I don't even need to tell you what's wrong with these, bar the fact she spent her whole "vacation" writing these.
This post then.
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This comic then.
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Here, I might say one thing that I haven't touched upon before.
Appeal to aesthetics.
In short, it's a form of appeal to emotion.
She does that a lot with politicians, specifically. We've seen examples of Donald Trump, Elon Musk and Kristi Noem already.
This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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Feeling tired yet?
Me too!
But I am posting all of this to drive the point home!
While she posted some other comics prior to this, like her cat pics, or her own pics...by that point, this was literally all she talked aobut on her Threads. And not that some of it wasn't all true, but it was solely engagement bait, getting upset over a reason she herself fueled with those posts!
This post, then.
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This post, then...in which she shows the commenter actually make a good point, then gets mad over it.
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By this logic, all Onlyfans models should be sent to prison, because a few of them ended up raping their children.
This post, then.
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This post, then.
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The "silencing the opposition" comment is especially funny, especially seeing the lengths she goes to to do just the same. Yet another case of projection I will examine in the manipulation section.
This post, then, where she pretends to be a victim in all of this...by something she herself caused. That's called a passive voice.
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And, finally, this post.
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Now, if this is how she reacted to all of this in her posts...just imagine what her comments from that period must look like...for our own mutual sanities sake, I am NOT going there.
I think that, at this point, calling all of this content "manufactured ragebait" and "persecution fetish" is justified.
However, she didn't just waste her vacation on all of this.
See...her wedding remarks, and this whole vacation thing...lead people to believe this might all be happening on her honeymoon.
This was, ultimately, confirmed when people went to her "private" Facebook (wide open at that point), and realised something...
...those are wedding pictures. And they announced their marriage there too. After fifteen years, mind you.
Ok-Cook, the head moderator of r/pizzacakesnark, announced this revelation in the following post.
Therefore, all of the porn pics they took in that cabin, that they took their kids to...and all this time that Ellen spent on bashing manufactured enemies online...
were all on her honeymoon.
I don't think I even need to state that they fucked and her kids heard everything, right?
Ellen, of course, responded in a totally normal way, formally announcing the wedding on her social media.
...
Yeah, no, of course not, what, did you really think she wouldn't use this perfect opportunity for playing the victim?
Reddit.
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Threads.
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Now, I may not know the exact definition of "delusional", but spending half of your literal wedding announcement (over half of it, actually!) to bash some internet strangers for something that they didn't do (the pics were, remember, publically available) certainly qualifies.
And, yeah, she only changed her Facebook privacy settings afterwards. One of the only times she actually followed another person's advice in her whole life.
Of course, this wouldn't be the end, no, no! She followed all of that up with even more attempts at sympathy farming, mostly via fake activism and a charity donation (which is cool and all, but I hate when people do such things only performatively). We will, however, for the sake of this section's length, which is already enormous and close to the limit, only cover that in the "Agression" section's whole separate "Fake activism" section.
What I will, instead, cover, is the most recent case of sympathy farming, the Operation Snark Sink.
Just like everything in life, it all began with a shitty comic nobody asked for. In this case, the Mombie comic. I have covered some of it already before, and I will be covering it in later sections in more detail, especially the impulsivity section, but what you need to know is that the people were absolutely livid about it, wanting the comic to end because of how stale her output became.
Enter, r/peterexplainsthejoke.
This subreddit's schtique is people posting memes that they don't understand, or that they simply found amusing enough to repost there, to have other people, roleplaying as Family Guy characters, as the name suggests, "explain the joke".
Many of Pizzacake's comics ended up there, one of which, one I referenced before in the plagiarism section, was an edit of her black cat comic.
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The comment section did not pull any punches. And those are just a few examples!
Naturally, thousands of new people getting exposed to Ellen's true nature for the first time pissed her off immensely.
Whilst she was angry at people for everything else they did in the past, this is what truly broke her.
However, at first, her response to the drama was pretty mild.
Hell, her first attempt at sympathy farming had her cope by saying "Gee, thanks for the attention! I now have hundreds of new people exposed to my nudes!"...and while there's nothing wrong with sex work...how do I say it...
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Well, first of all , the fact she had to include made-up comments, instead of just, y'know, screenshotting some of the actual "haters" of hers, proves that she couldn't find people actually saying this in the amounts she hoped.
Second of all, this post wasn't marked NSFW. It exposed literal minors (Reddit is 13+) to the fact she has an Onlyfans and she posts nudes of herself there and on Patreon. We'll get to that in the child endangerement section.
Third, this was uploaded right in the middle of a zombie arc where her daughter gets infected with the zombie virus, and the literal next comic uploaded after this features an allegory for sexual assault.
That we will get to later, in "unfortunate implications" section.
Despite this supposed happyness at hundreds, let's repeat that once again, hundreds of new Patrons joining (we will be discussing it in a later section too), Ellen quickly changed up the game.
Before we get to that, however, here's an even more glaring example of her sympathy farming, from the same time period.
See, she made a post on her Patreon, on December 7th, shortly after this drama, available only to her Xtra tier members, announcing that she's in hospital after a series of fainting spells hurt her pretty badly.
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She would only announce this on her Threads a week later, in another round of sympathy farming.
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This is especially weird, as, with her cats, she tends to announce such things as they happen, an example here.
Therefore, this leads me to suggest that this whole thing was made up for clout, and as an excuse to delay a shoot...she shot on time anyway.
Hell, do you see any healing bruises here? I certainly don't.
Back to her Reddit, Ellen would make, in stark contrast to her initial reaction to the expose, perhaps as a way to project after a brigading a week prior (which I will get into in the manipulation section), the following comic.
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I will get onto why that's especially funny in the manipulation section as well, where I'll show you that this comic depicted something that Ellen herself did at that time, but, for now...have this comment she made under this post.
Note the usage of "This isn't just about me".
She is not using this comic as an opportunity to discuss Reddit's incompetence with moderating hateful communities, such as r/h3snark. This is not a message of support for others who have experienced tragedy due to all of this.
No.
This is solely Ellen's deception method, shifting the blame for something she herself did onto her haters. Peak projection.
After all, as I'll show you later, and I have shown you she did before, she did all of this herself!
If Ellen tried to make a point, she wouldn't do such stupid mistakes as following up a comment on silencing criticism...with a comment about silencing criticism.
She also dismisses each and every negative opinion of her, including valid criticism of her work, calling it a hate campaign caused by Trump.
..oh, we'll get to that later.
This, therefore, leads us to the present day, and Ellen's biggest and most blatant attempt at sympathy farming, one that exposes her true intentions behind all of her internet activity, and which will sum up everything we've talked about in this section up until this point.
The Hiatus Announcement.
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Let's analyse it in detail, for the good times sake.
First of all, Ellen's hasn't ceased all of her internet activity. She instead retreated to her echo chambers, Patreon, Onlyfans and Discord, where, because people have to pay her to be there, she has created a system of full control and devotion. After all, she wouldn't be able to just leave the internet and move on. She craves attention.
Then...the harassment, as can actually be seen from the announcement itself, is coming from inside the house. Ellen is attacking the snarkers herself. r/pizzcakesnark did (past tense, you'll see why shortly) not do anything wrong to her. It only allowed publically available information, prohibited harassment and brigading, and was solely a space for discussing her actions.
The family worrying thing is funny, because Ellen exposed her family on the internet herself, making their real depictions and names a center of a lot of her comics, including the ones she posted very recently. If anyone's responsible for her family's safety, it'd be Ellen.
She made a reply to this post shortly after learning of the totally not coordinated r/pizzacakesnark ban, where she goes into more detail on the supposed harassment.
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"I have been just putting my phone down and not looking at anything" - this is only really an accomplishment for Ellen because she's addicted to social media. None of this would have happened if she hadn't.
"People accusing me of botting" - we have evidence of that, more on that in a later section
"people accusing me of 'sicking my followers on dissenters'" - we have evidence of that, more on that in a later section
"people swearing I make alt accounts" - we have evidence of that, more on that in a later section
"making whatever thing up (and then using AI to try to makeup proof?)" - Ellen, once again, makes stuff up for bait. Just like with BasedifTrue and Berkeley, she assumed an obvious AI image of a 30 year old Brazillian man, spread around as a joke, was their serious attempt at doxxing her.
We'll skip over the family shit, especially as none of her critics ever said anything like that except "Ellen needs CPS called on her, those poor kids", but that'd, of course, require admitting that it'd be warranted.
As for the ban, we'll get to that later, but that was automated. The admins denied the appeal, but the act of the ban itself was automatic, and a result of a mass reporting campaign.
...one thing I will also touch up in the manipulation section is how she knew the sub was banned so early on...which is pretty suspicious.
Since this was the final ever thing she uploaded onto Reddit as of the time of me writing this, the final announcement to show you comes from her Patreon.
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This is concerning, in one particular way.
See, amongst the repeats of her previous talking points, Ellen also brings up a few new ones.
One is the spreadsheeting thing, which clearly references the 30 year old Brazillian man drama I will get to in the brigading section.
The other is this...
Literally no one ever did this.
The fact that Ellen had the audacity to make this up...to assert that her opponents would try to make child porn of her children...the fact that she genuinely thought that would happen...sickens me. I will get to why in the child endangerement section, but, in short...she genuinely thought her content about her children attracted pedophiles, something she was responsible for herself...
Besides, we did talk ealrier on, in part 2,5, about Ellen cosplaying as underage characters and drawing porn of underage characters herself! She is the one guilty of this! Not of real people, but still.
In summary...I have one quote that sums this up very well.
I know Ninety-Eighty-Four is a bit of a joke in the online spaces for how often it is brought up in reference to petty situations...but if there's one thing that all of this has taught us, it's how effective even the simplest deception tactics can be.
I will, thus, end the deviancy section on a quote that sums it up extremely well.
Persecution complex is a very severe delusion, where you believe every single aspect of your life is a subject to targetted harassment campaigns. That people have nothing better to do than to attack you. That you have all of the internet targetting you, in addition to all of real life.
Ellen suffers from it to an extent that can be classified as a full blown paraphilia, a persecution fetish. She will not merely use the already existing drama to manufacture sympathy for herself, but outright make up stuff to get worked up about.
Ellen has shown, fully well, that all of her internet activity is spent either ragebaiting, or sympathy farming. I will go into more detail on her responses to dramas and using other people's tragedies for it in later sections, because those actually, y'know, had genuine reasons to get mad about them. The hater comic discourse did get her banned from Patreon for a week. The Based if True drama did get her doxxed, albeit in retaliation.
I think there are, however, two examples of Ellen's persecution fetish, ones that are very recent, that show it off in way more detail than I could show otherwise.
The Honeymoon Drama, and the Operation Snark Sink.
Allow me to explain the Honemoon Drama first.
See, Jeff and Ellen, despite being together for 15 years, as shown off in many comics, and despite using the terms "husband" and "wife" to refer to themselves, as depicted in some of her older comics (will have its own section later down the line, focusing on it), never actually married.
Ellen announced the plans to do so on her Threads in a one-off post.
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She, later, uploaded this picture from the Niagara Falls, where the two went for the wedding.
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Then, this cat pic, confirming that she went on vacation once more...why would she only say this on her Threads and Patreon tho, and not anywhere else? Did she want people on Reddit not to dig into her further?
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She also uploaded that "Turning Heads" comic I brought up in the deviancy section ealrier onto all of her social medias, including Patreon.
A few days later, also on Patreon, only on Patreon, she published this announcement, titled "Vacation".
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She would then post two posts relating to those vacations, but in a broader sense.
While she posted this comic on all of her platforms, I will bring up the Patreon version of this comic for one particular reason.
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See, the description of this comic states that it's based on real events.
Ellen was spending her vacation time in the woods and brought her daughter along.
This, then, became concerning, when we learned of her vacation spot.
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The fact they not only took their kids with them, to a small getaway like that...which may or may not be a honeymoon, and shot porn there as well...since they most definitely fucked...the kids probably heard it all through the thin wooden walls.
In addition to these revelations, however, Ellen kept us occupied in yet another way...
See, while all of this was going on, on her vacation, need I remind you...Ellen REALLY ramped up her nazi calling game.
Ellen had a shit ton of issues with taking criticism prior, but the way she pumped out hate speech...is real impressive.
I will be making this more amusive by giving you complete rundown of the fallacies on display here.
Assume every of the following is a strawman unless I say otherwise.
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Now, this is loaded. This actually showcases multiple logical fallacies on display in tandem.
The big one is, of course, false dichotomy, which I have touched upon previously.
Second, albeit I want to relate it to all of Ellen's comics featuring the terms "nazi" without it being about actual nazis, this comic also is a display of guilt by association.
In Ellen's case, since nazis hate everything, and her critics hate her, this must mean that her haters are nazis, by association, ignoring the fact that the term "nazi" solely refers to the members of Adolf Hitler's party during WWII. Even if Ellen was correct by saying her enemies are nazis, she'd still be wrong on two separate layers. First, because the correct term would be "neo nazi", and second, neo nazism is about wiping out inferior, slavic and jewish, races, to make way for the aryan race, and not about targetted harassment of liberal comic artists.
Then, the third one, motte and bailey fallacy.
Ellen argues that all of her haters are nazis, but will never argue about them as if they were nazis. To her, "nazi" means just as much as "hater", despite them having vastily different implications. This, however, falls flat for yet another reason...most of r/pizzacakesnark's mod team was comprised of liberal women.
An even better example of that fallacy, however, is actually seen in Ellen's next post.
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This, however, also is a yet another example of a tactic that Ellen does, albeit not on purpose.
See, she may be poisoning the well by calling people nazis, but there's also another problem with it.
I made a quick comic to demonstrate it.
By calling eveyrone she doesn't like nazis, she is inadvertantly ignoring the actual nazis running around and thus rendering the term "nazi" moot.
Yet another proof she doesn't care about politics.
...by going over her posts alone, for my own sanity, I will inevitably have to bring up this, and that is, her war with r/doomerciclejerk that happened around that point.
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Oh, the irony.
Let's show you what actually happened then, shall we?
See, this post was made on r/doomercirclejerk, a post dedicated to "doomers", a group of people proclaiming the apocalypse is happening and actively spreading the word of upcoming doom.
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I will touch upon that part of Ellen later, but just read the comments on this one, I cannot give them enough justice. One glance at them and you know that Ellen did not take well to this.
Another post documented this, as well as the response to the drama over on Twitter.
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This, then, lead to the posts of Ellen we saw above, where she played the victim and accused r/doomercirclejerk of being ran by nazi symphatizers.
Another comic.
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If I didn't know any better, I'd think it's a pro gun satire.
Then, a comic that I have already touched up on when I covered the circular reasoning fallacy.
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...yeah, thank me for spoilering this, both she and the OP put this comic (a comic depicting Donald Trump giving a blowjob to Putin) onto Reddit with no NSFW flair...
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This one actually depicts a fallacy, slippery slope.
...well, it would be, if not for the fact that the first panel states this is a "what if" scenario and not an actual event that happened. Therefore, Elle-I mean, the hater invented an imaginary scenario solely for the reason of being mad about it...which is wishful thinking, and just a part of her persecution fetish.
This single panel describes this fallacy, and in turn, what Ellen actually believes is happening, so well.
Don't even get me started on her Threads activity. That commits every logical fallacy in the book whilst providing no actual debunkings of anything.
Let's do a rapid round of them, shall we?
...oh, you don't want to?
Too bad, suffer.
First, this comic, related to the Tea app being used as a harassment tool.
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The irony...
Then, this post.
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Ellen'd expand on it later, but she seems to believe that, if she sees her commenters use a symbol she associates with people she despises (not shit like swastikas, mind you), she will automatically believe they're a part of that group. Faulty generalisation.
Besides, Ellen here is depicted doing the exact same thing she's accusing them of doing...
I think it's a good time to bring up something Ellen does a lot, related to her persecution fetish...
Projection.
The most standard definition for it goes as follows.
We will see way more of this from Ellen in the following posts, which is why I decided to go through them one by one.
One of them is right in her next post.
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The latest Scott The Woz video has a joke in it that perfectly encapsulates this comment's message.
...how many more?
dear fuck.
This post then.
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I think that, by this point, I don't even need to tell you what's wrong with these, bar the fact she spent her whole "vacation" writing these.
This post then.
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This comic then.
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Here, I might say one thing that I haven't touched upon before.
Appeal to aesthetics.
In short, it's a form of appeal to emotion.
By drawing the people she hates as ugly, and ones she likes as beautiful, she uses an argument that has no genuine weight in the current argument in order to show that a person is bad before the argument even starts, or to accentuate another argument.
She does that a lot with politicians, specifically. We've seen examples of Donald Trump, Elon Musk and Kristi Noem already.
This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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This post, then.
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Feeling tired yet?
Me too!
But I am posting all of this to drive the point home!
While she posted some other comics prior to this, like her cat pics, or her own pics...by that point, this was literally all she talked aobut on her Threads. And not that some of it wasn't all true, but it was solely engagement bait, getting upset over a reason she herself fueled with those posts!
This post, then.
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This post, then...in which she shows the commenter actually make a good point, then gets mad over it.
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By this logic, all Onlyfans models should be sent to prison, because a few of them ended up raping their children.
This post, then.
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This post, then.
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The "silencing the opposition" comment is especially funny, especially seeing the lengths she goes to to do just the same. Yet another case of projection I will examine in the manipulation section.
This post, then, where she pretends to be a victim in all of this...by something she herself caused. That's called a passive voice.
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And, finally, this post.
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Now, if this is how she reacted to all of this in her posts...just imagine what her comments from that period must look like...for our own mutual sanities sake, I am NOT going there.
I think that, at this point, calling all of this content "manufactured ragebait" and "persecution fetish" is justified.
However, she didn't just waste her vacation on all of this.
See...her wedding remarks, and this whole vacation thing...lead people to believe this might all be happening on her honeymoon.
This was, ultimately, confirmed when people went to her "private" Facebook (wide open at that point), and realised something...
...those are wedding pictures. And they announced their marriage there too. After fifteen years, mind you.
Ok-Cook, the head moderator of r/pizzacakesnark, announced this revelation in the following post.
Therefore, all of the porn pics they took in that cabin, that they took their kids to...and all this time that Ellen spent on bashing manufactured enemies online...
were all on her honeymoon.
I don't think I even need to state that they fucked and her kids heard everything, right?
Ellen, of course, responded in a totally normal way, formally announcing the wedding on her social media.
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Yeah, no, of course not, what, did you really think she wouldn't use this perfect opportunity for playing the victim?
Reddit.
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Threads.
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Now, I may not know the exact definition of "delusional", but spending half of your literal wedding announcement (over half of it, actually!) to bash some internet strangers for something that they didn't do (the pics were, remember, publically available) certainly qualifies.
And, yeah, she only changed her Facebook privacy settings afterwards. One of the only times she actually followed another person's advice in her whole life.
Of course, this wouldn't be the end, no, no! She followed all of that up with even more attempts at sympathy farming, mostly via fake activism and a charity donation (which is cool and all, but I hate when people do such things only performatively). We will, however, for the sake of this section's length, which is already enormous and close to the limit, only cover that in the "Agression" section's whole separate "Fake activism" section.
What I will, instead, cover, is the most recent case of sympathy farming, the Operation Snark Sink.
Just like everything in life, it all began with a shitty comic nobody asked for. In this case, the Mombie comic. I have covered some of it already before, and I will be covering it in later sections in more detail, especially the impulsivity section, but what you need to know is that the people were absolutely livid about it, wanting the comic to end because of how stale her output became.
Enter, r/peterexplainsthejoke.
This subreddit's schtique is people posting memes that they don't understand, or that they simply found amusing enough to repost there, to have other people, roleplaying as Family Guy characters, as the name suggests, "explain the joke".
Many of Pizzacake's comics ended up there, one of which, one I referenced before in the plagiarism section, was an edit of her black cat comic.
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The comment section did not pull any punches. And those are just a few examples!
Naturally, thousands of new people getting exposed to Ellen's true nature for the first time pissed her off immensely.
Whilst she was angry at people for everything else they did in the past, this is what truly broke her.
However, at first, her response to the drama was pretty mild.
Hell, her first attempt at sympathy farming had her cope by saying "Gee, thanks for the attention! I now have hundreds of new people exposed to my nudes!"...and while there's nothing wrong with sex work...how do I say it...
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Well, first of all , the fact she had to include made-up comments, instead of just, y'know, screenshotting some of the actual "haters" of hers, proves that she couldn't find people actually saying this in the amounts she hoped.
Second of all, this post wasn't marked NSFW. It exposed literal minors (Reddit is 13+) to the fact she has an Onlyfans and she posts nudes of herself there and on Patreon. We'll get to that in the child endangerement section.
Third, this was uploaded right in the middle of a zombie arc where her daughter gets infected with the zombie virus, and the literal next comic uploaded after this features an allegory for sexual assault.
That we will get to later, in "unfortunate implications" section.
Despite this supposed happyness at hundreds, let's repeat that once again, hundreds of new Patrons joining (we will be discussing it in a later section too), Ellen quickly changed up the game.
Before we get to that, however, here's an even more glaring example of her sympathy farming, from the same time period.
See, she made a post on her Patreon, on December 7th, shortly after this drama, available only to her Xtra tier members, announcing that she's in hospital after a series of fainting spells hurt her pretty badly.
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She would only announce this on her Threads a week later, in another round of sympathy farming.
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This is especially weird, as, with her cats, she tends to announce such things as they happen, an example here.
Therefore, this leads me to suggest that this whole thing was made up for clout, and as an excuse to delay a shoot...she shot on time anyway.
Hell, do you see any healing bruises here? I certainly don't.
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Back to her Reddit, Ellen would make, in stark contrast to her initial reaction to the expose, perhaps as a way to project after a brigading a week prior (which I will get into in the manipulation section), the following comic.
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I will get onto why that's especially funny in the manipulation section as well, where I'll show you that this comic depicted something that Ellen herself did at that time, but, for now...have this comment she made under this post.
Note the usage of "This isn't just about me".
She is not using this comic as an opportunity to discuss Reddit's incompetence with moderating hateful communities, such as r/h3snark. This is not a message of support for others who have experienced tragedy due to all of this.
No.
This is solely Ellen's deception method, shifting the blame for something she herself did onto her haters. Peak projection.
After all, as I'll show you later, and I have shown you she did before, she did all of this herself!
If Ellen tried to make a point, she wouldn't do such stupid mistakes as following up a comment on silencing criticism...with a comment about silencing criticism.
She also dismisses each and every negative opinion of her, including valid criticism of her work, calling it a hate campaign caused by Trump.
..oh, we'll get to that later.
This, therefore, leads us to the present day, and Ellen's biggest and most blatant attempt at sympathy farming, one that exposes her true intentions behind all of her internet activity, and which will sum up everything we've talked about in this section up until this point.
The Hiatus Announcement.
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Let's analyse it in detail, for the good times sake.
First of all, Ellen's hasn't ceased all of her internet activity. She instead retreated to her echo chambers, Patreon, Onlyfans and Discord, where, because people have to pay her to be there, she has created a system of full control and devotion. After all, she wouldn't be able to just leave the internet and move on. She craves attention.
Then...the harassment, as can actually be seen from the announcement itself, is coming from inside the house. Ellen is attacking the snarkers herself. r/pizzcakesnark did (past tense, you'll see why shortly) not do anything wrong to her. It only allowed publically available information, prohibited harassment and brigading, and was solely a space for discussing her actions.
The family worrying thing is funny, because Ellen exposed her family on the internet herself, making their real depictions and names a center of a lot of her comics, including the ones she posted very recently. If anyone's responsible for her family's safety, it'd be Ellen.
She made a reply to this post shortly after learning of the totally not coordinated r/pizzacakesnark ban, where she goes into more detail on the supposed harassment.
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"I have been just putting my phone down and not looking at anything" - this is only really an accomplishment for Ellen because she's addicted to social media. None of this would have happened if she hadn't.
"People accusing me of botting" - we have evidence of that, more on that in a later section
"people accusing me of 'sicking my followers on dissenters'" - we have evidence of that, more on that in a later section
"people swearing I make alt accounts" - we have evidence of that, more on that in a later section
"making whatever thing up (and then using AI to try to makeup proof?)" - Ellen, once again, makes stuff up for bait. Just like with BasedifTrue and Berkeley, she assumed an obvious AI image of a 30 year old Brazillian man, spread around as a joke, was their serious attempt at doxxing her.
We'll skip over the family shit, especially as none of her critics ever said anything like that except "Ellen needs CPS called on her, those poor kids", but that'd, of course, require admitting that it'd be warranted.
As for the ban, we'll get to that later, but that was automated. The admins denied the appeal, but the act of the ban itself was automatic, and a result of a mass reporting campaign.
...one thing I will also touch up in the manipulation section is how she knew the sub was banned so early on...which is pretty suspicious.
Since this was the final ever thing she uploaded onto Reddit as of the time of me writing this, the final announcement to show you comes from her Patreon.
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This is concerning, in one particular way.
See, amongst the repeats of her previous talking points, Ellen also brings up a few new ones.
One is the spreadsheeting thing, which clearly references the 30 year old Brazillian man drama I will get to in the brigading section.
The other is this...
Literally no one ever did this.
The fact that Ellen had the audacity to make this up...to assert that her opponents would try to make child porn of her children...the fact that she genuinely thought that would happen...sickens me. I will get to why in the child endangerement section, but, in short...she genuinely thought her content about her children attracted pedophiles, something she was responsible for herself...
Besides, we did talk ealrier on, in part 2,5, about Ellen cosplaying as underage characters and drawing porn of underage characters herself! She is the one guilty of this! Not of real people, but still.
Now...why is Ellen doing all of this ragebaiting and sympathy farming?
As shown via the fact she used the hiatus announcement to send people to her Patreon...it's done for one reason and one reason only.
To sell porn.
As shown via the fact she used the hiatus announcement to send people to her Patreon...it's done for one reason and one reason only.
To sell porn.
In summary...I have one quote that sums this up very well.
I know Ninety-Eighty-Four is a bit of a joke in the online spaces for how often it is brought up in reference to petty situations...but if there's one thing that all of this has taught us, it's how effective even the simplest deception tactics can be.
I will, thus, end the deviancy section on a quote that sums it up extremely well.
That's it for part 4! With that, we're now done with two out of the eight symptoms of Ellen's ASPD. Next part will, hopefully, cover in full the next one, impulsivity. as shown by Ellen's instant backtracking, lack of forethought, inability to make coherent storylines, as well as quick turnarounds on her comics...but only after a well deserved break.
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This may be the only pizzacake comic I've ever thought was kinda funny.
Another really awesome chain of thought by ellen.
> [Reddit] makes "billions of dollars" (debatable) off of my content
> Continues posting it there
You can stop doing that at any time if you feel they aren't treating you fairly. No one is forcing you to have a reddit account or to make pornography of yourself and whatever else. This is how you've decided you want to be.
It's gonna be really interesting to see what her main way of getting attention will switch to after Trump is no longer in office and 99% of people no longer give a shit about him.
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Which one? The link's broken.
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I fixed it. Refresh