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the 5000th post.
Woohoo!
Regarding another chain of comments under that r/bonehurtingjuice post, since I know you're reading it, PNG_Naruto.
Ellen has an Onlyfans.
🎨 Artcow Ellen Woodbury / Pizzacake / Pizzacakecomic - A 40 year old webcomic artist, mother, porn star, misandrist, dramacow and Reddit celebrity. Threatens to sue her critics and cuckolds her husband. Female Andrew Dobson.
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Woohoo!
Regarding another chain of comments under that r/bonehurtingjuice post, since I know you're reading it, PNG_Naruto.
Ellen has an Onlyfans.
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I don't need The Industrial Revolution and Its Consequences: Part 2 about Ellen to know that she's a disgusting, talentless, self-obsessed whore.
But I appreciate it nonetheless, ZBT, you autistic sperg.
But I appreciate it nonetheless, ZBT, you autistic sperg.
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Thanks!
My coverage does not focus on the fact she is one. It's focusing on why she is one.
What actually motivated me to do this was Based if True's insistence of bringing the politics into the equation, as well as the following response of his.
Since I, knowing more about her than he, knew this wasn't the case, I wanted to make a long post detailing why I believe it to be so, for others to understand my train of thought.
Besides, I want to take away the option of plausible deniability from everything Ellen does. I want people to realise that everything she is stated to do, she does.
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She's kind of like Alyssa Mercunte, who will spend years boasting about being a sex worker, sucking dick to get ahead in her career (which she must suck at because she barely has one), licking ass, etc. and then sue someone for calling her the whore she's always admitted she is.
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i haven't really dug into all her sexual shit, but with known fetishes imo i'd think it'd relate to some wombo combo of 1., "im so hot they instantly go into heat for me" and 2. cuckery
so when theyre both poured in, you have a combo kink of "oh no a group of blacks saw me and had to have me while my husband whimpers under one's knee watching". if the husband's not portrayed, then it's the insinuation of showing her get railed in 4k while her husband's not there which still revs up a cuck kink and her desirability. along with being dominated already being a pretty popular kink, even up to rape in a sanitized environment, ie alpha wolf in a warm cabin and holding/loyalty after, or the fucking mainstream penelope douglas/hoover incest/rape shit vs any real portrayal like ramming head into concrete with group dry anal and long term trauma
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Uhhh...guys?
So, I was working on the next part of the Ellen doc, and I consulted on it with another researcher of mine.
Now, they suggested that I add a section later on about Ellen's fans (especially Olii W, who's a lolcow in his own right) since they found out a lot of interesting material by going through the Discord leaks, and covering Ellen's simpbase would be very beneficial in the DSM-V diagnosis of her, which takes enviromental factors into account.
However, there's also another thing they found...
One time, the chat was discussing Ellen's Patreon ban.
Ellen asserts here that the ban reason was actually the Gym GF comic (I can totally see that, and it was actually the conclusion I had made in the part 2 of the psycho analysis. That comic openly depicted rape).
Now, normally, Ellen would state that her Patreon was brought back after she deleted all of the troublesome content, such as in this announcement on her Patreon.
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(kemono)
Note how she says that Patreon openly apologised to her.
So...when I saw this next message of hers...shit hit the fan.
Now, if you don't know who she's talking about, she's referring to The Tweet of God.
It is ran by David Javerbaum...and, uh, if you don't know who that is...lemme just show you.
Pretty big deal, especially with 13 Emmy's and, you know, several fucking documentaries and stageplays.
YES, ELLEN ACTUALLY USED A CELEBRITY TO COERCE A PATREON'S CEO INTO UNBANNING HER ACCOUNT.
ELLEN HAS A FUCKING INFLUENCER MAFIA.
NO WONDER PATREON OPENLY APOLOGISED TO HER, THEY DIDN'T WANT HER TO SEND AN ARMY ON THEM AGAIN!
I wonder...does she have this power on Reddit too?
So, I was working on the next part of the Ellen doc, and I consulted on it with another researcher of mine.
Now, they suggested that I add a section later on about Ellen's fans (especially Olii W, who's a lolcow in his own right) since they found out a lot of interesting material by going through the Discord leaks, and covering Ellen's simpbase would be very beneficial in the DSM-V diagnosis of her, which takes enviromental factors into account.
However, there's also another thing they found...
One time, the chat was discussing Ellen's Patreon ban.
Ellen asserts here that the ban reason was actually the Gym GF comic (I can totally see that, and it was actually the conclusion I had made in the part 2 of the psycho analysis. That comic openly depicted rape).
Now, normally, Ellen would state that her Patreon was brought back after she deleted all of the troublesome content, such as in this announcement on her Patreon.
(archive)
(kemono)
Note how she says that Patreon openly apologised to her.
So...when I saw this next message of hers...shit hit the fan.
Now, if you don't know who she's talking about, she's referring to The Tweet of God.
It is ran by David Javerbaum...and, uh, if you don't know who that is...lemme just show you.
Pretty big deal, especially with 13 Emmy's and, you know, several fucking documentaries and stageplays.
YES, ELLEN ACTUALLY USED A CELEBRITY TO COERCE A PATREON'S CEO INTO UNBANNING HER ACCOUNT.
ELLEN HAS A FUCKING INFLUENCER MAFIA.
NO WONDER PATREON OPENLY APOLOGISED TO HER, THEY DIDN'T WANT HER TO SEND AN ARMY ON THEM AGAIN!
I wonder...does she have this power on Reddit too?
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The bigger question is….does the friends & family of this so called “celebrity” know that he uses his power to support a crazy woman who makes porn with her kids in the next room and draws herself raping people?!
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Michelangelo and Dante were considered mediocre during their lifetime, too.
aww she is so determined fighting 4 justice even during her honeymoon. a true kween who can have her cake and eat it too.
aww she is so determined fighting 4 justice even during her honeymoon. a true kween who can have her cake and eat it too.
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I would imagine that comedy writer David Javerbaum's wife Debra, as well as his mother's former attorney general friends, his father's law firm partners, and the Rabbi at his Beth El Temple would not be thrilled to know that he is a paypig and gooner boy for a some busted housewife who draws shitty comics.
You'd think an award winning comedy writer with a decent looking wife would have better taste in women and humor. No wonder the most recent thing of note that he did was over FIVE YEARS AGO. Dude must have been spending so long gooning to Mrs. Hank Hill Ass since COVID that his ability to understand humor and attractiveness has atrophied.
You'd think an award winning comedy writer with a decent looking wife would have better taste in women and humor. No wonder the most recent thing of note that he did was over FIVE YEARS AGO. Dude must have been spending so long gooning to Mrs. Hank Hill Ass since COVID that his ability to understand humor and attractiveness has atrophied.
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Holy shit, Raven cosplay is somehow the worst thing outside deathfats
cosplayers. At least Starfire suit fit to her, might be an angle and filters, but it doesn't make her worse. Raven's leotard makes her uglier, absolutely disgusting hips
cosplayers. At least Starfire suit fit to her, might be an angle and filters, but it doesn't make her worse. Raven's leotard makes her uglier, absolutely disgusting hips
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One small clarification before we begin this. In order not to divide this up any further, both this and the following post I'll be making, covering Ellen's inability to make coherent storylines, are meant to be Part 5. I hit a charatcer limit deep into that point and I did not want to trim anything further to avoid confusion and loss of important info. Just know that both of these posts are meant to cover one thing.
WIP warning: This post, as a multi parter, is still under active development. I will be making a big compilaiton post with links to all the sections later down the line.
Part 4 of this psycho analysis went over Ellen's plagiarism, as well as the sheer masse of deception tactics Ellen uses to not only shield herself from criticism, but also change the facts to turn herself into a victim of the suffering she herself caused. Part 5 will, instead, take on a bit of a milder subject, for a change, going over Ellen's impulsivity, greatly affecting her ability to make compelling comics. While the subject may not be as serious, it sure won't be any less indepth.
But first a minor addenum to part 4, since I can no longer edit it.
Ellen used this image as reference for Kristi Noem.
Doesn't fix anything though.
It was a response to a gun expert bashing her on Patreon. Kek.
Due to the length of the previous part, I wasn't able to include the video at the start, where Ellen talks about how much time she spends on a single comic. Here it is.
Okay, now we can begin.
WIP warning: This post, as a multi parter, is still under active development. I will be making a big compilaiton post with links to all the sections later down the line.
Part 4 of this psycho analysis went over Ellen's plagiarism, as well as the sheer masse of deception tactics Ellen uses to not only shield herself from criticism, but also change the facts to turn herself into a victim of the suffering she herself caused. Part 5 will, instead, take on a bit of a milder subject, for a change, going over Ellen's impulsivity, greatly affecting her ability to make compelling comics. While the subject may not be as serious, it sure won't be any less indepth.
But first a minor addenum to part 4, since I can no longer edit it.
Ellen used this image as reference for Kristi Noem.
Doesn't fix anything though.
It was a response to a gun expert bashing her on Patreon. Kek.
Due to the length of the previous part, I wasn't able to include the video at the start, where Ellen talks about how much time she spends on a single comic. Here it is.
Okay, now we can begin.
From Wikipedia,
Due to the fact that the ealrier sections, as well as the latter sections, dive into Ellen's impulsive behaviour whilst discussing other aspects of Ellen's life, I will be spending much of this section on one particular aspect of Ellen's life that suffers from it the most, and those would be her comics.
See, Ellen usually sticks to short form content. Most of Ellen's work is either a single, four panel comic, or a few part series of porn drawings around a certain theme. They are self sufficient in nature and do not usually form any continuity with any other comics, bar the ones being inspired by ongoing real life events naturally following said events.
When we get to her longer storylines, however, there's very little semblance of any actual planning. Some of them follow a structured plotline, sure, but even they eventually devolve into a mess. Many of them also contradict their later parts later on. Hell, some of them contradict themselves in the moment!
This, of course, hinders Ellen's capability of making any good art. When you're thinking of "now" and not "then", you're gonna cause yourself problems when you get to "then". It's a fundamental flaw of her approach to storytelling, one that cripples any chance of her ever making any actually good comics.
In short, Ellen tends not to put much thought into her actions, acting purely on emotions, in the moment, as well as going for short term gains. She has no long term goals, no dark hour plans, nothing.
Due to the fact that the ealrier sections, as well as the latter sections, dive into Ellen's impulsive behaviour whilst discussing other aspects of Ellen's life, I will be spending much of this section on one particular aspect of Ellen's life that suffers from it the most, and those would be her comics.
See, Ellen usually sticks to short form content. Most of Ellen's work is either a single, four panel comic, or a few part series of porn drawings around a certain theme. They are self sufficient in nature and do not usually form any continuity with any other comics, bar the ones being inspired by ongoing real life events naturally following said events.
When we get to her longer storylines, however, there's very little semblance of any actual planning. Some of them follow a structured plotline, sure, but even they eventually devolve into a mess. Many of them also contradict their later parts later on. Hell, some of them contradict themselves in the moment!
This, of course, hinders Ellen's capability of making any good art. When you're thinking of "now" and not "then", you're gonna cause yourself problems when you get to "then". It's a fundamental flaw of her approach to storytelling, one that cripples any chance of her ever making any actually good comics.
Ellen has a habit of posting ragebait on Threads. We know that.
What happens, then, when people instantly bash her for it?
Simple.
She just deletes the post.
Therefore, Ellen will often post ragebait on her social medias, without thinking, then quickly go back on her decision.
This section, sadly, will be extremely short. This is solely because...well, she deleted them so soon, only some snarkers were able to get their hands on them, and therefore r/pizzacakesnark contained the only evidence of it.
I will, therefore, bring up stuff we do have evidence of.
First, her tweets about the fishermen gundown.
The tweets.
I also remember her post about the dangers of sharenting, made right after the Mombie part 10 (we will get to why that's relevant later) that she deleted after only a few minutes, but I can't find it, so don't quote me on that.
I wish we had r/pizzacakesnark to archive this.
In any case, if more cases of this pop up, I'll just make an addenum post.
What you need to know is that this archival of evidence of her wrongdoings is why she absolutely despised the snarkers and made responses addressing them, like the ones I've shown in the Persecution Complex section.
What happens, then, when people instantly bash her for it?
Simple.
She just deletes the post.
Therefore, Ellen will often post ragebait on her social medias, without thinking, then quickly go back on her decision.
This section, sadly, will be extremely short. This is solely because...well, she deleted them so soon, only some snarkers were able to get their hands on them, and therefore r/pizzacakesnark contained the only evidence of it.
I will, therefore, bring up stuff we do have evidence of.
First, her tweets about the fishermen gundown.
The tweets.
The deletion.How dare you kill the dirty drug smugglers, oh but killing babies is perfectly fine.
-Ellen probably
Then, already brought up, Meghan Trainor bodyshaming.Oh yeah I forgot to mention she was getting her square ass cheeks pulled apart in the comments. So she deleted previous two posts lol…lmao even…
I also remember her post about the dangers of sharenting, made right after the Mombie part 10 (we will get to why that's relevant later) that she deleted after only a few minutes, but I can't find it, so don't quote me on that.
I wish we had r/pizzacakesnark to archive this.
In any case, if more cases of this pop up, I'll just make an addenum post.
What you need to know is that this archival of evidence of her wrongdoings is why she absolutely despised the snarkers and made responses addressing them, like the ones I've shown in the Persecution Complex section.
What I can, however, bring up, is Ellen's tendency to act on emotions.
In the ragebait section, I have shown this off with her political content, where the emotion was sheer rage at her haters and "nazis".
However, there's another emotion that Ellen, arguably, acts upon far more frequently.
Horny.
As I've stated throrought all of the deviancy section, Ellen's content is self serving, based on her fetishes, her fantasies, and made solely for her. Therefore, whenether she gets horny and has no way of easily offloading it, for whatever reason...she will instead make a new porn comic.
However, because she can only be horny for something for so long, this leads to a lot of her long form comics ending very abruptly. Let's go over some examples.
The first one is Ellen's "Massage" comic.
(part 1) (part 3)
(archive 1) (archive 3)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (kemono 3)
This comic, like her "Soaking Wet" comic, was supposed to depict yet another one of the common fantasies people have. Whereas the previous one was about sexual harassment/extortion, colloqualy referred to as "a secretary having sex with her boss for a raise", this one was to depict a female masseur giving a "happy ending" to Ellen.
Was, because it ended abruptly, on panel 3, when the masseur pulled out a massage gun.
...wait, hold on for a second, It is tangentially related to this section, because it shows the comic was rushed/Ellen knew nothing about the subject.
What is that?
That's not a massage gun.
THAT'S what massage guns look like.
As you can see, massage guns are, in their simplest form, two perpendicular cyllinders. Easy as hell to draw, yet Ellen still fucked it up.
And no, it is also not a massage wand. They look more akin to this.
The difference between a massage gun and a massage wand is that a massage gun will have a pumping piston, attached to a rubber ball, quickly moving in and out, causing vibrations on the skin, whereas a vibrating wand features a motor that causes the head, usually made of body safe plastic, to vibrate using a rumble mechanism, sometimes rotate if a toy is designed for that.
Since the toy in the image is clearly the former, Ellen, most likely, got confused when drawing this comic and slapped a massage gun's head onto a massage wand's handle. Yet another reason why I believe this comic has been rushed.
Also, for whatever reason, the part 2 specifically was deleted from her Patreon during the purge. I wonder why.
No, like, genuinely, I don't know how this is more rape-y than some of her other work that she kept on there.
I will skip over the next example of this, Body Positivity, because it will actually tie into the next section (as well as the final section of impulsivity), and instead cover two more examples of this from relatively recently.
"Drilled"
(archive)
(kemono)
It is, probably the worst offender of them all, if we're talking about her lazy porn comics existing solely because of a kinky fantasy that suddenly popped into her head,
As you can see, this one's notably way less effort than her typical porn comics and has the presentation of Ellen's typical comics (simillar to Soaking Wet, actually). The officer's actually featured in some of her political comics.
(archive)
Why a (seemingly high rank, considering he talks with Trump directly) military officer runs a kink event. I have no idea.
In the post, she stated that this was a rework of a prior idea, something she elaborated on in her Patreon chat.
There, she actually also gave an explanation about why she cancelled the comic, specifically, not wanting to be harassed for making yet another rape comic.
As I have stated before in the rape section, the fact Ellen genuinely can't write a consensual BDSM comic only shows how shit of an artist she is. And it wouldn't actually be that hard to make it consensual. Simply having the sergeant ask her once in a while if she's still consenting to this, showing he cares for her, that it all is just roleplay...while still bannable on Patreon, possibly...would make this all actually normal. By admitting she can't change the comic to depict this, Ellen admits she is not creative enough to come up with clever solutions to the problems she encounters.
Ellen, stop making the problem be about others. People don't hate you for depicting BDSM, people hate you for how you depict BDSM. Get over it.
Also, fuck.
However, the post on her Patreon also states that Ellen had another long form comic coming up (despite Body Positivity being on hold by that point, as we will get to later).
That comic would not be A Little Extra.
(link 1) (link 2)
(archive 1) (archive 2)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)
I have already shown you the images in the fat fetish section, so we're not gonna be discussing them here, especially since it's not a comic, but in the description attached to the first part of the drawing set, Ellen stated that she'd like to turn this image set into one.
Despite the large amount of other fat fetish material she made around the time (again, I talked about this in the fat fetish section), she never actually made a weight gain comic.
Conversely, if Ellen has a longer lasting fantasy about something, she will keep pumping out comics about that thing constantly.
There are three notable instances of this. Her "Serious Ellen" comics, her fat fetish comics, and her zombie comics.
Soaking Wet was a comic Ellen made, starring her "Serious Ellen" persona (Ellen obsessed with workplace sexual harassment), as one of the first sexual works she has ever produced.
Since we've begun tackling Ellen's lengthier works, I'll have to begin spoilering this shit.
We will skip over the comic itself for now. I'll bring it up in a bit, in the "Inability to make coherent storylines" section.
However...this was not the only piece of Ellen's "Serious Ellen" content, no.
In fact, Ellen was so obsessed with this persona of her, that she has made several more drawings and cosplays of her prior to the comic, as well as a few supplementary comics afterwards.
So many of them, in fact, that some of them don't even show up on this screenshot, because she didn't tag them appropriately!
You like workplace harassment?
You like extortion?
You like shitty, quickly made comics, existing solely due to a 40 yo woman's fucked up mind?
How about your secretary exposing her roast beef and ironing board to you, all smug about it?
(archive)
(kemono)
...no?
Then how about your secretary sexually violating you under the table during a Zoom call (huge fantasy of Ellen's)?
(archive)
(kemono)
...still no? The art is shit?
Damn, you really are one hard-to-please crowd.
Then how about your secretary extorting you by grinding on your dick, hater style?
(archive)
(kemono)
..."fuck off, nobody asked for this"?
FINE!
ONE LAST IMAGE!
HOW ABOUT THE SHITTIEST DRAWING YOU HAVE SEEN IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, WHERE YOUR SECRETARY WHORES HERSELF OUT FOR THE WHOLE OFFICE IN THE BREAK ROOM, INCLUDING A MARRIED GUY?
(archive)
(kemono)
...you want a refund?
Ahahahaha, I'm sorry, but I've already spent all your money on shitty cosplays from Aliexpress for my future Patreon posts!
Anyway, I have covered why this image is so shit in the exhibitionism section, so we'll call it quits for her Serious Ellen persona.
...I wonder what past Ellen thinks of this?
...huh.
Moving on.
The next big obsession Ellen had was fat fetish. You know the drill, moving on.
The final big fetish of Ellen was zombie fetish. Well...not neccessairly literally, but more talk about it here.
I will be covering this comic, specifically, in both "Lack of forethought" and, later, in the "Unfortunate implications" sections though...so I need to make yet another archive dump in there.
I have assumed that the whole zombie thing was a way Ellen developed as a way to cope with her unplannec pregnancy...I am not so sure about that anymore.
What I do know, however, is how it actually started.
With simps.
Of course, I don't think I have to tell you that Ellen's first ever Zombie work was a set of naked drawings.
Then, she made the "Zombie" comic, which everyone thought was a one off.
It wasn't.
It, however, ended with this panel, giving people hope that this one would be.
...of course, her next comic was the continuation of this comic.
She would continue making every single future non political/misandry comic of hers about her zombie self for a while, including redrawing some of her ealrier comics to feature her instead in reposts, as shown in the plagiarism section.
By the time the sixth part of that comic dropped, and despite the fact that she had drawn rape porn based on the zombie premise by that point (she dropped a male on female rape comic, but still went ahead with a female on male rape comic...we will get to that later), even some of her most diehard critics got tired of it.
Ellen, thus made the following post.
The replies showed that, yes, her fans were sick of it.
Ellen, thus, made the following comic, announcing she had a cure, and made a post about her return to her normal comics afterwards...
...what?
No! I'd never!
...fine, alright. I lied again.
She relegated the zombie shit to an alternate universe, but STILL continued the story.
AND announced a "cosplay"
After part 7, she also proceeded to make this following comic, making fun of people who were, rightfully, sick of all of this.
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The implication is that Ellen will kill you if you dare criticise her.
Hell, later on, she actually got another person onboard with this comic. She cared about this comic WAYYYY too much!
Thus far, there has been no special Christmas storyline, but we are now up to part 12 of the arc.
The only comic she made since was a horribly drawn comic about Ellen wishing the year 2026 was better, so I, frankly, doubt she just stopped the Zombie comic.
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Just compare it with the previous comics I've shown you, and you'll see what I mean...but that's for the lazyness section.
So, cannot delay it any longer...
Body Positivity.
You know the drill.
As Body Positivity was solely a way of Ellen to cope with her imperfect body, as I have discussed before and I will discuss later, it was no surprise that she was obsessed with continuing it. For the time, it was the longest running comic she has ever produced (in terms of pages, Painter still held the cake, however, with 25 main pages and 5 bonus ones, as opposed to then 23 of Body Positivity).
She was so proud of it (or, rather, pushed it so hard on her unsuspecting goons), she ended up advertising it on Reddit three separate times.
The first time she had done this, she framed the whole thing as a joke, with the punchline that basically went "haha I have an audience of gooners who are unironically into that shit".
(archive)
Don't you love it when you go on r/comics and all you see are SFW teases for literal yuri smut?
Not on Reddit, but she teased the part 2 a bit later on Patreon, writing "These 2 are already so cute together..."
(archive) (unrelated, but might as well put it there, the archive.ph link literally spells out "Fishy"...they know)
(kemono)
The second time she has blatantly promoted this porn comic on her Reddit was on her userpage, around the time of the eighth part's release, once again marked as SFW.
(archive)
The final time was a lot more elaborate, in that she used some finesse in it, as well as utilised another content creator's drama. This situation is also unique in that it actually has a bit of a personal touch to it.
On April 30, 2025, another comic artist, dubbed. by the r/comics community. "The Hot Blind Wife Guy", because he's a Guy that makes comics about his Hot Blind Wife...and by comics, I mean SFW smut and NSFW smut...would make a now infamous comic, "A Great Idea".
(archive)
...okay, I lied about the SFW smut.
See, what makes these SFW, and utterly ruins the original meanings of the jokes (I will excuse the grammar mistakes, because the guy's Brazillian and English is not his first language), is the shittily drawn neon blue clothing that Isekomix, the author, draws on the characters, a lazy form of censorship that gives people the illusion of these comics not being porn.
This is not just conjecture. Going into Isekomix's Patreon shows this blatantly.
As nobody has leaked his works in over a year, I have no evidence of this comic following this formula. For what we know, this is the most SFW work this guy's ever done and hasn't even been uploaded onto his Patreon.
I, however, would make a case that it's pretty obvious it was intended to be porn, given the context.
What context?
ALL OF HIS LEAKED WORKS AFTER OCTOBER OF 2024 FOLLOW THIS FORMULA.
He refers to the SFW works as "censored" and NSFW works as "fanservice" too.
Still not convinced?
There's also this one minor thing that I haven't yet brought up, and it's that...in the description of his porn tier on Patreon...
HE DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THIS, CALLING IT "BLUE CENSOR"!
YES, THIS GUY, QUITE LITERALLY, SPEWS UP BARELY CENSORED PORN INVOLVING HIS WIFE ON HIS REDDIT ACCOUNT.
OF COURSE, HIS HOT WITE WOULDN'T KNOW ANY OF THIS, AS SHE IS FUCKING BLIND.
I would, therefore, make a case for this following the same formula.
Now, the reason why I point this out in particular is that I want to set a stage for the following set of comics.
As you can see by the above example, and the fact that I have brought up one of Ellen's porn promos already...r/comics, around that time, was (albeit it still admittedly is) almost entirely dominated by porn.
Another comic from that period I specifically remember popping up on my Reddit's main page was this one, which literally shows gay sex.
(archive)
Why did I not censor it?
Simple, they hadn't either. It has no NSFW fla-
Wait.
THAT Adamtots?
The one that everybody respects to all heck?
How fun.
Since this is not a psycho analysis of him, I'll just leave him off the hook, someone else can target him instead.
But anyway, what I refer to here is the fact that Reddit has this feature where you can mark your posts as NSFW.
An example here, in this comic by Naughty Nectar Comics, another notorious gooner from r/comics.
This gives you several benefits.
For one, there's a site filter that removes all NSFW content from your feed.
Then, there's an option that's auto enabled on all new accounts that auto spoilers all NSFW posts, so that, for instance, they don't pop up on your feed when you're in a crowded bus.
Third...technically, it's prohibited by TOS of Reddit, and potentially outright illegal not to do this, as otherwise you'd be exposing children to child pornography.
Again, whilst the Hot Blind Wife Guy was not the sole culprid of all of this, he was the straw that broke the camel's back.
The comment section, even after the mass deletions, was proof of this.
This was unacceptable for Ellen.
Failure was not an option.
Her whole caeer revolved around goonerbait.
She had to save her ass before people went after her too.
She did this in the only way she thought she could do at the time.
By having 80% of the comments under the post removed by the r/comics mod staff, as well as making an official statement, defending the artist.
It did not go over well.
The artist was overjoyed, however.
She then followed it up with a callout on her own userpage, since that had a lesser risk of being downvoted to oblivion.
(archive)
Of course, she cropped the downvote count on the post, for obvious reasons.
She then spent a day arguing with people under these two posts...oh, she did.
Hell, she also used that opportunity to defend herself from her DMCA happy tendencies.
She has also used this opportunity to bash Trump some more, despite him having nothing to do with this.
Besides...Ellen, the "they hate porn so they must be virgins" is a shit defense. I assure you, especially considering your NSFW output, that most of your critics know more about sex than you, and that's why we're saying why it's so wrong for you to turn everything into goonerbait.
Besides, the fact that our sextapes hadn't leaked on the internet doesn't mean we never had it.
One of the comments shown above, however, ties into the point I'm trying to make quite nicely.
Ellen, acting on emotions (hey, it's the name of this section!), began working on the next part of Body Positivity...but also made two, seemingly unrelated, comics on her Reddit first.
First was this comic.
(archive)
We will get to this when we start talking about Jeff, but the way he's portrayed here is very odd.
See, Jeff is, most often, portrayed by Ellen as a submissive guy who will do anything to please his wife. The dominant side of him only shows up by the end of Locked Out and the Painter comics, both of which happen after him getting cucked, getting revenge on the bulls. This is still submissive behaviour overall, however.
Why, then, is Jeff suddenly depicted here as this very strong guy, an alpha male, that will dominate Ellen like a wolf dominates a deer and tear into her, rather unflattering, flat body, extracting all the juices from her rigor mortis-like body?
See, that's because it's not actually about Jeff.
(archive)
Yeah, the final panel is literally a panel from Body Positivity Part 9.
What Ellen did here is actually really clever.
She used the ongoing drama about r/comics's obsession with goonerbait in order to promote the latest part of her porn comic, all via two, seemingly unrelated, comics that only served as a third (yes, third!) Reddit ad for this yuri smut, all via Ellen manufacturing a comic about her being a sub that she then used as a punchline in her next comic, after she supposedly got comments about it under her previous post, that just so happened to feature a panel from her porn comic which contained a buff woman!
It's very clever, really, bravo!
This, however, made the following events even more strange.
See, her followerbase actually ate it all up! They absolutely loved this series!
Hell, they loved it so much, some guy on there had actually used modded Sims 4 to make up his own scenarios featuring the two lesbians when Ellen took too long with the parts.
This time, however, Ellen wouldn't make another part for a week.
For two weeks.
A month.
Two months.
Eventually, seven months went and gone, with no Body Positivity 10 in sight...the story left on a cliffhanger.
Her fans got pissed.
Sick.
Tired of waiting.
And, eventually, some of them left.
Ellen, sometimes pushed the deadline further and further, but none ever came.
In the ragebait section, I have shown this off with her political content, where the emotion was sheer rage at her haters and "nazis".
However, there's another emotion that Ellen, arguably, acts upon far more frequently.
Horny.
As I've stated throrought all of the deviancy section, Ellen's content is self serving, based on her fetishes, her fantasies, and made solely for her. Therefore, whenether she gets horny and has no way of easily offloading it, for whatever reason...she will instead make a new porn comic.
However, because she can only be horny for something for so long, this leads to a lot of her long form comics ending very abruptly. Let's go over some examples.
The first one is Ellen's "Massage" comic.
(part 1) (part 3)
(archive 1) (archive 3)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (kemono 3)
This comic, like her "Soaking Wet" comic, was supposed to depict yet another one of the common fantasies people have. Whereas the previous one was about sexual harassment/extortion, colloqualy referred to as "a secretary having sex with her boss for a raise", this one was to depict a female masseur giving a "happy ending" to Ellen.
Was, because it ended abruptly, on panel 3, when the masseur pulled out a massage gun.
What is that?
That's not a massage gun.
THAT'S what massage guns look like.
As you can see, massage guns are, in their simplest form, two perpendicular cyllinders. Easy as hell to draw, yet Ellen still fucked it up.
And no, it is also not a massage wand. They look more akin to this.
The difference between a massage gun and a massage wand is that a massage gun will have a pumping piston, attached to a rubber ball, quickly moving in and out, causing vibrations on the skin, whereas a vibrating wand features a motor that causes the head, usually made of body safe plastic, to vibrate using a rumble mechanism, sometimes rotate if a toy is designed for that.
Since the toy in the image is clearly the former, Ellen, most likely, got confused when drawing this comic and slapped a massage gun's head onto a massage wand's handle. Yet another reason why I believe this comic has been rushed.
Also, for whatever reason, the part 2 specifically was deleted from her Patreon during the purge. I wonder why.
No, like, genuinely, I don't know how this is more rape-y than some of her other work that she kept on there.
I will skip over the next example of this, Body Positivity, because it will actually tie into the next section (as well as the final section of impulsivity), and instead cover two more examples of this from relatively recently.
"Drilled"
(archive)
(kemono)
It is, probably the worst offender of them all, if we're talking about her lazy porn comics existing solely because of a kinky fantasy that suddenly popped into her head,
As you can see, this one's notably way less effort than her typical porn comics and has the presentation of Ellen's typical comics (simillar to Soaking Wet, actually). The officer's actually featured in some of her political comics.
(archive)
Why a (seemingly high rank, considering he talks with Trump directly) military officer runs a kink event. I have no idea.
In the post, she stated that this was a rework of a prior idea, something she elaborated on in her Patreon chat.
There, she actually also gave an explanation about why she cancelled the comic, specifically, not wanting to be harassed for making yet another rape comic.
As I have stated before in the rape section, the fact Ellen genuinely can't write a consensual BDSM comic only shows how shit of an artist she is. And it wouldn't actually be that hard to make it consensual. Simply having the sergeant ask her once in a while if she's still consenting to this, showing he cares for her, that it all is just roleplay...while still bannable on Patreon, possibly...would make this all actually normal. By admitting she can't change the comic to depict this, Ellen admits she is not creative enough to come up with clever solutions to the problems she encounters.
Ellen, stop making the problem be about others. People don't hate you for depicting BDSM, people hate you for how you depict BDSM. Get over it.
Also, fuck.
However, the post on her Patreon also states that Ellen had another long form comic coming up (despite Body Positivity being on hold by that point, as we will get to later).
That comic would not be A Little Extra.
(link 1) (link 2)
(archive 1) (archive 2)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)
I have already shown you the images in the fat fetish section, so we're not gonna be discussing them here, especially since it's not a comic, but in the description attached to the first part of the drawing set, Ellen stated that she'd like to turn this image set into one.
Despite the large amount of other fat fetish material she made around the time (again, I talked about this in the fat fetish section), she never actually made a weight gain comic.
Conversely, if Ellen has a longer lasting fantasy about something, she will keep pumping out comics about that thing constantly.
There are three notable instances of this. Her "Serious Ellen" comics, her fat fetish comics, and her zombie comics.
Soaking Wet was a comic Ellen made, starring her "Serious Ellen" persona (Ellen obsessed with workplace sexual harassment), as one of the first sexual works she has ever produced.
Since we've begun tackling Ellen's lengthier works, I'll have to begin spoilering this shit.
However...this was not the only piece of Ellen's "Serious Ellen" content, no.
In fact, Ellen was so obsessed with this persona of her, that she has made several more drawings and cosplays of her prior to the comic, as well as a few supplementary comics afterwards.
You like extortion?
You like shitty, quickly made comics, existing solely due to a 40 yo woman's fucked up mind?
How about your secretary exposing her roast beef and ironing board to you, all smug about it?
(archive)
(kemono)
Then how about your secretary sexually violating you under the table during a Zoom call (huge fantasy of Ellen's)?
(archive)
(kemono)
Damn, you really are one hard-to-please crowd.
Then how about your secretary extorting you by grinding on your dick, hater style?
(archive)
(kemono)
FINE!
ONE LAST IMAGE!
HOW ABOUT THE SHITTIEST DRAWING YOU HAVE SEEN IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, WHERE YOUR SECRETARY WHORES HERSELF OUT FOR THE WHOLE OFFICE IN THE BREAK ROOM, INCLUDING A MARRIED GUY?
(archive)
(kemono)
Ahahahaha, I'm sorry, but I've already spent all your money on shitty cosplays from Aliexpress for my future Patreon posts!
Anyway, I have covered why this image is so shit in the exhibitionism section, so we'll call it quits for her Serious Ellen persona.
...I wonder what past Ellen thinks of this?
...huh.
Moving on.
The next big obsession Ellen had was fat fetish. You know the drill, moving on.
The final big fetish of Ellen was zombie fetish. Well...not neccessairly literally, but more talk about it here.
I will be covering this comic, specifically, in both "Lack of forethought" and, later, in the "Unfortunate implications" sections though...so I need to make yet another archive dump in there.
Main parts:
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3) (link 4) (link 5) (link 6) (link 7) (link 8) (link 9) (link 10) (link 11) (link 12)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3) (archive 4) (archive 5) (archive 6) (archive 7) (archive 8) (archive 9) (archive 10) (archive 11) (archive 12)
Patreon bonus content:
Part 6 WIP:
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Cosplay announcement (Patreon):
(link)
(archive)
Part 8 WIP:
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Part 11 early access:
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Part 12 (Patreon):
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Side comics:
Bait:
Bluesky nazi comic:
(link)
(archive)
"A Predator Is A Predator""
(link)
(archive)
Ellen's response to people hating the comic:
(link)
(archive)
"On The Mend":
(link)
(archive)
Zombie cosplay announcement:
(link)
(archive)
"Cheat":
(link)
(archive)
The Porn:tm::
Zombie Ellen:
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Rape comic:
(link 1) (link 2)
(archive 1) (archive 2)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)
Zombie cosplay:
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3) (link 4)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3) (archive 4)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3) (link 4) (link 5) (link 6) (link 7) (link 8) (link 9) (link 10) (link 11) (link 12)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3) (archive 4) (archive 5) (archive 6) (archive 7) (archive 8) (archive 9) (archive 10) (archive 11) (archive 12)
Patreon bonus content:
Part 6 WIP:
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Cosplay announcement (Patreon):
(link)
(archive)
Part 8 WIP:
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Part 11 early access:
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Part 12 (Patreon):
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Side comics:
Bait:
Bluesky nazi comic:
(link)
(archive)
"A Predator Is A Predator""
(link)
(archive)
Ellen's response to people hating the comic:
(link)
(archive)
"On The Mend":
(link)
(archive)
Zombie cosplay announcement:
(link)
(archive)
"Cheat":
(link)
(archive)
The Porn:tm::
Zombie Ellen:
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Rape comic:
(link 1) (link 2)
(archive 1) (archive 2)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)
Zombie cosplay:
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3) (link 4)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3) (archive 4)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)
What I do know, however, is how it actually started.
With simps.
Of course, I don't think I have to tell you that Ellen's first ever Zombie work was a set of naked drawings.
It wasn't.
It, however, ended with this panel, giving people hope that this one would be.
...of course, her next comic was the continuation of this comic.
She would continue making every single future non political/misandry comic of hers about her zombie self for a while, including redrawing some of her ealrier comics to feature her instead in reposts, as shown in the plagiarism section.
By the time the sixth part of that comic dropped, and despite the fact that she had drawn rape porn based on the zombie premise by that point (she dropped a male on female rape comic, but still went ahead with a female on male rape comic...we will get to that later), even some of her most diehard critics got tired of it.
Ellen, thus made the following post.
The replies showed that, yes, her fans were sick of it.
Ellen, thus, made the following comic, announcing she had a cure, and made a post about her return to her normal comics afterwards...
...what?
No! I'd never!
...fine, alright. I lied again.
She relegated the zombie shit to an alternate universe, but STILL continued the story.
AND announced a "cosplay"
After part 7, she also proceeded to make this following comic, making fun of people who were, rightfully, sick of all of this.
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The implication is that Ellen will kill you if you dare criticise her.
Hell, later on, she actually got another person onboard with this comic. She cared about this comic WAYYYY too much!
Thus far, there has been no special Christmas storyline, but we are now up to part 12 of the arc.
The only comic she made since was a horribly drawn comic about Ellen wishing the year 2026 was better, so I, frankly, doubt she just stopped the Zombie comic.
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
Just compare it with the previous comics I've shown you, and you'll see what I mean...but that's for the lazyness section.
So, cannot delay it any longer...
Body Positivity.
You know the drill.
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3) (link 4) (link 5) (link 6) (link 7) (link 8) (link 9) (link 10)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3) (archive 4) (archive 5) (archive 6) (archive 7) (archive 8) (archive 9) (archive 10)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (kemono 3) (kemono 4) (kemono 5) (kemono 6) (kemono 7) (kemono 8) (kemono 9) (kemono 10)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3) (archive 4) (archive 5) (archive 6) (archive 7) (archive 8) (archive 9) (archive 10)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (kemono 3) (kemono 4) (kemono 5) (kemono 6) (kemono 7) (kemono 8) (kemono 9) (kemono 10)
She was so proud of it (or, rather, pushed it so hard on her unsuspecting goons), she ended up advertising it on Reddit three separate times.
The first time she had done this, she framed the whole thing as a joke, with the punchline that basically went "haha I have an audience of gooners who are unironically into that shit".
(archive)
Don't you love it when you go on r/comics and all you see are SFW teases for literal yuri smut?
Not on Reddit, but she teased the part 2 a bit later on Patreon, writing "These 2 are already so cute together..."
(archive) (unrelated, but might as well put it there, the archive.ph link literally spells out "Fishy"...they know)
(kemono)
The second time she has blatantly promoted this porn comic on her Reddit was on her userpage, around the time of the eighth part's release, once again marked as SFW.
(archive)
The final time was a lot more elaborate, in that she used some finesse in it, as well as utilised another content creator's drama. This situation is also unique in that it actually has a bit of a personal touch to it.
On April 30, 2025, another comic artist, dubbed. by the r/comics community. "The Hot Blind Wife Guy", because he's a Guy that makes comics about his Hot Blind Wife...and by comics, I mean SFW smut and NSFW smut...would make a now infamous comic, "A Great Idea".
(archive)
...okay, I lied about the SFW smut.
See, what makes these SFW, and utterly ruins the original meanings of the jokes (I will excuse the grammar mistakes, because the guy's Brazillian and English is not his first language), is the shittily drawn neon blue clothing that Isekomix, the author, draws on the characters, a lazy form of censorship that gives people the illusion of these comics not being porn.
This is not just conjecture. Going into Isekomix's Patreon shows this blatantly.
As nobody has leaked his works in over a year, I have no evidence of this comic following this formula. For what we know, this is the most SFW work this guy's ever done and hasn't even been uploaded onto his Patreon.
I, however, would make a case that it's pretty obvious it was intended to be porn, given the context.
What context?
ALL OF HIS LEAKED WORKS AFTER OCTOBER OF 2024 FOLLOW THIS FORMULA.
There's also this one minor thing that I haven't yet brought up, and it's that...in the description of his porn tier on Patreon...
HE DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THIS, CALLING IT "BLUE CENSOR"!
YES, THIS GUY, QUITE LITERALLY, SPEWS UP BARELY CENSORED PORN INVOLVING HIS WIFE ON HIS REDDIT ACCOUNT.
OF COURSE, HIS HOT WITE WOULDN'T KNOW ANY OF THIS, AS SHE IS FUCKING BLIND.
I would, therefore, make a case for this following the same formula.
Now, the reason why I point this out in particular is that I want to set a stage for the following set of comics.
As you can see by the above example, and the fact that I have brought up one of Ellen's porn promos already...r/comics, around that time, was (albeit it still admittedly is) almost entirely dominated by porn.
Another comic from that period I specifically remember popping up on my Reddit's main page was this one, which literally shows gay sex.
(archive)
Why did I not censor it?
Simple, they hadn't either. It has no NSFW fla-
Wait.
THAT Adamtots?
The one that everybody respects to all heck?
How fun.
Since this is not a psycho analysis of him, I'll just leave him off the hook, someone else can target him instead.
But anyway, what I refer to here is the fact that Reddit has this feature where you can mark your posts as NSFW.
An example here, in this comic by Naughty Nectar Comics, another notorious gooner from r/comics.
This gives you several benefits.
For one, there's a site filter that removes all NSFW content from your feed.
Then, there's an option that's auto enabled on all new accounts that auto spoilers all NSFW posts, so that, for instance, they don't pop up on your feed when you're in a crowded bus.
Third...technically, it's prohibited by TOS of Reddit, and potentially outright illegal not to do this, as otherwise you'd be exposing children to child pornography.
Again, whilst the Hot Blind Wife Guy was not the sole culprid of all of this, he was the straw that broke the camel's back.
The comment section, even after the mass deletions, was proof of this.
This was unacceptable for Ellen.
Failure was not an option.
Her whole caeer revolved around goonerbait.
She had to save her ass before people went after her too.
She did this in the only way she thought she could do at the time.
By having 80% of the comments under the post removed by the r/comics mod staff, as well as making an official statement, defending the artist.
It did not go over well.
The artist was overjoyed, however.
She then followed it up with a callout on her own userpage, since that had a lesser risk of being downvoted to oblivion.
(archive)
Of course, she cropped the downvote count on the post, for obvious reasons.
She then spent a day arguing with people under these two posts...oh, she did.
Hell, she also used that opportunity to defend herself from her DMCA happy tendencies.
She has also used this opportunity to bash Trump some more, despite him having nothing to do with this.
Besides...Ellen, the "they hate porn so they must be virgins" is a shit defense. I assure you, especially considering your NSFW output, that most of your critics know more about sex than you, and that's why we're saying why it's so wrong for you to turn everything into goonerbait.
Besides, the fact that our sextapes hadn't leaked on the internet doesn't mean we never had it.
One of the comments shown above, however, ties into the point I'm trying to make quite nicely.
Ellen, acting on emotions (hey, it's the name of this section!), began working on the next part of Body Positivity...but also made two, seemingly unrelated, comics on her Reddit first.
First was this comic.
(archive)
We will get to this when we start talking about Jeff, but the way he's portrayed here is very odd.
See, Jeff is, most often, portrayed by Ellen as a submissive guy who will do anything to please his wife. The dominant side of him only shows up by the end of Locked Out and the Painter comics, both of which happen after him getting cucked, getting revenge on the bulls. This is still submissive behaviour overall, however.
Why, then, is Jeff suddenly depicted here as this very strong guy, an alpha male, that will dominate Ellen like a wolf dominates a deer and tear into her, rather unflattering, flat body, extracting all the juices from her rigor mortis-like body?
See, that's because it's not actually about Jeff.
(archive)
Yeah, the final panel is literally a panel from Body Positivity Part 9.
What Ellen did here is actually really clever.
She used the ongoing drama about r/comics's obsession with goonerbait in order to promote the latest part of her porn comic, all via two, seemingly unrelated, comics that only served as a third (yes, third!) Reddit ad for this yuri smut, all via Ellen manufacturing a comic about her being a sub that she then used as a punchline in her next comic, after she supposedly got comments about it under her previous post, that just so happened to feature a panel from her porn comic which contained a buff woman!
It's very clever, really, bravo!
This, however, made the following events even more strange.
See, her followerbase actually ate it all up! They absolutely loved this series!
Hell, they loved it so much, some guy on there had actually used modded Sims 4 to make up his own scenarios featuring the two lesbians when Ellen took too long with the parts.
For two weeks.
A month.
Two months.
Eventually, seven months went and gone, with no Body Positivity 10 in sight...the story left on a cliffhanger.
Her fans got pissed.
Sick.
Tired of waiting.
And, eventually, some of them left.
Ellen, sometimes pushed the deadline further and further, but none ever came.
Following the r/peterexplainsthejoke post, which I have shared before, Ellen made this post, which I have shown you a couple times now.
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Whilst I do not know the validity of Ellen's claims, I do know that she wanted to appease the crowd that joined her Patreon following this drama.
She, thus, made the following announcement on her Patreon chat, announcing the Body Positivity Part 10
The comic dropped less than a day later.
To fully apprecieate it, you must, however, know the context behind the series.
I won't show the whole comic here, but I will give you the highlights.
The comic, as we have seen before, opens with Ellen praising her fat fetish OC's body, before she says she wants her body.
They mean it to be literal, and, therefore, start fucking in the locker rooms.
I am trying...SO hard...not to start pointing out problems with this already...but I will save that for later...
The two girls, then, get interrupted by someone who wants to use the showers they'e hogging.
After learning it's a hot, buff woman, they both instantly start being horny for her, ripping off a Spongebob joke.
They let her in, and, annoyed, she begins doing her own business.
Of course, the two, lusting after her, want her to show off her muscle mommy body.
The final part until then, 9, ended with this panel, which I have already shown before.
TLDR for people who are too big of a pussy to unspoiler this in public/want to conserve their own sanity - two girls fuck, third joins in, Ellen asks the buff girl to lift her, she agrees.
Let's get to the part 10, shall we?
First off, whereas all other parts had between 2-4 pages, most often 2...this one was just 1.
Okay, it wouldn't be such a big deal if it was any good.
Now, was it?
...I'd relegate this to the lazyness section, but considering this was a rush job and not just Ellen slacking off, I'll have to cover it here.
- what's up with the Gumball face?
- what's up with that constipated look on the fat OC's face?
- why is everything drawn so much worse?
- why are their proportions like that?
and, like
- THIS IS NOT EVEN LIFTING. THIS IS JUST HER HUGGING THE TWO. IN WHAT WORLD IS THIS LIFTING?
Needless to say, even her long time fans were not pleased, let alone the new ones!
And those are her Patreon supporters! This level of criticism is uncalled for!
Needless to say, quick turnarounds are a common problem plaguing her works. It's hard for it not to be, when she pumps out a comic every day or two, most of them relating to the current political situation.
Ellen didn't tend to do this for a long period of her career. Her Reddit Metis shows when this changed.
Bar bashing her...
It also has the following graph.
In September of 2024, Ellen started posting a LOT more online.
Before September of 2024, she would usually post a new comic once every three days. Afterwards, the rate increased to a post every day or two. Whilst the political comics around that time were still in a bit of an infancy state, the events happening around that time in America, relating to the presidential elections, most likely contributed to it.
This increase is also what raised the general Reddit audience's awareness of her, which eventually lead to the r/bonehurtingjuice drama we all know and love, which happened around two months later, but that's a topic for another time.
This increase, which carried on for long afterwards, at a rapid pace, also meant that Ellen could no longer keep up with making political comics concerning the subjects she wanted to ragebait on, therefore, she just stole the memes of others, as I've discussed in the plagiarism section.
Now, let's return to the Body Positivity comic once again, a prominent case in Ellen's impulsivity, as you can probably tell by how much I talked about it already, and talk about it (and mombie comic!) some more from a yet another perspective, one of Ellen's lack of planning.
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Whilst I do not know the validity of Ellen's claims, I do know that she wanted to appease the crowd that joined her Patreon following this drama.
She, thus, made the following announcement on her Patreon chat, announcing the Body Positivity Part 10
The comic dropped less than a day later.
To fully apprecieate it, you must, however, know the context behind the series.
I won't show the whole comic here, but I will give you the highlights.
The comic, as we have seen before, opens with Ellen praising her fat fetish OC's body, before she says she wants her body.
They mean it to be literal, and, therefore, start fucking in the locker rooms.
I am trying...SO hard...not to start pointing out problems with this already...but I will save that for later...
The two girls, then, get interrupted by someone who wants to use the showers they'e hogging.
After learning it's a hot, buff woman, they both instantly start being horny for her, ripping off a Spongebob joke.
They let her in, and, annoyed, she begins doing her own business.
Of course, the two, lusting after her, want her to show off her muscle mommy body.
The final part until then, 9, ended with this panel, which I have already shown before.
Let's get to the part 10, shall we?
First off, whereas all other parts had between 2-4 pages, most often 2...this one was just 1.
Okay, it wouldn't be such a big deal if it was any good.
Now, was it?
...I'd relegate this to the lazyness section, but considering this was a rush job and not just Ellen slacking off, I'll have to cover it here.
- what's up with the Gumball face?
- what's up with that constipated look on the fat OC's face?
- why is everything drawn so much worse?
- why are their proportions like that?
and, like
- THIS IS NOT EVEN LIFTING. THIS IS JUST HER HUGGING THE TWO. IN WHAT WORLD IS THIS LIFTING?
Needless to say, even her long time fans were not pleased, let alone the new ones!
And those are her Patreon supporters! This level of criticism is uncalled for!
Needless to say, quick turnarounds are a common problem plaguing her works. It's hard for it not to be, when she pumps out a comic every day or two, most of them relating to the current political situation.
Ellen didn't tend to do this for a long period of her career. Her Reddit Metis shows when this changed.
Bar bashing her...
It also has the following graph.
In September of 2024, Ellen started posting a LOT more online.
Before September of 2024, she would usually post a new comic once every three days. Afterwards, the rate increased to a post every day or two. Whilst the political comics around that time were still in a bit of an infancy state, the events happening around that time in America, relating to the presidential elections, most likely contributed to it.
This increase is also what raised the general Reddit audience's awareness of her, which eventually lead to the r/bonehurtingjuice drama we all know and love, which happened around two months later, but that's a topic for another time.
This increase, which carried on for long afterwards, at a rapid pace, also meant that Ellen could no longer keep up with making political comics concerning the subjects she wanted to ragebait on, therefore, she just stole the memes of others, as I've discussed in the plagiarism section.
Now, let's return to the Body Positivity comic once again, a prominent case in Ellen's impulsivity, as you can probably tell by how much I talked about it already, and talk about it (and mombie comic!) some more from a yet another perspective, one of Ellen's lack of planning.
This section can be entirely explained by this quote from The Office, uttered by Michael Scott, someone Ellen can actually really identify with.
This is not a problem with Ellen's most common line of comics, the slice-of-life, four panel comics she puts out on the regular on her Reddit. These, due to their very nature, do not require any form of future proofing.
It's also not a problem with some of her fetish scenarios.
See, Ellen has a bit of a coomer mentality.
In her mind, any and all sex starts with a shitty porn level intro and ends when a man cums. There's no depiction of events leading up to it, no foreplay, no aftercare...nothing. Hence, since they follow the basic porn structure of "shitty intro - they undress - woman has sex with a man - man cums - done", they don't need much of a structure.
The problem comes in when Ellen cannot do that, for one reason or another. I have semi explained this when I talked about the massage comic, but Ellen just sorta...stopped caring about it as soon as she dropped the fantasy, like she didn't know how to continue. This is not an isolated example, however.
First, Body Positivity.
Around Part 4, Ellen stated that she wanted this comic to continue for two more parts.
This was the part where the two lovers entered the shower and started having sex.
They, however, encountered a fundamental problem in Ellen's judgement.
See...
Despite being supposedly bi, Ellen knows absolutely nothing about lesbian sex.
This doesn't come out of nowhere, mind you. Ellen has repeatedly demonstrated that her lineup of sex fantasies centers around men. She said that she likes to have her threesomes involve two guys because "she's greedy", ignoring the fact that FFF threesomes could do the same thing for her. Hell, she never even mentioned the word "clit" anywhere and she barely even draws pussies as anything more than a line in the crotch, even when in the middle of sexual acts and exposed.
It all leads me to believe, then, that Ellen, genuinely, doesn't understand how non heterosexual sex even works.
Therefore, since she didn't have a satisfying conclusion to the next part (most likely because you can't just have your girl cum and that's it, it doesn't work like that)...she just introduced a third character in part 6, one that's much more masculine, and delayed the problem until later. Considering that the part 10 didn't come out for eight whole months, much later.
She described the situation as of part 6 as follows.
In Part 7, Ellen blatantly shows off the fact that she genuinely has no idea what she's even doing by that point.
Part 8 then.
One thing to note is that, if Ellen ever uses the phrase "I wonder what" in her long form comic, read it as "I have no bloody idea on how to continue this, please send help". I have shown this off during that Serious Ellen section from ealrier, actually.
This is also the case in part 10.
Ellen is so preoccupied with making her fetish fantasies in a comic that not once did she stop and think "wait, what is supposed to be the conclusion to this". Frankly, in this case, I don't think she even has an answer, and this comic will just end in the only way she can think of.
The buff character pulling out a strap-on and fucking Ellen with it (and thus, use the buff girl as a stand-in for the guy, making this lesbian comic actually straight all along).
Tried and true method, what can I tell ya.
(link 1)
(archive 1)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)
I also bet that someone more knowledgeable in yuri smut would tell you exactly how many errors in depicting lesbian ships she commits here. I can only say that the way she depicts all of this actually reminds me way more of gay porn, more specifically, gachimuchi.
The SFW (well, we'll get to it when we get to the unfortunate implications section) comic equivalent for this comparison would be the Mombie comic (only named so after part 5, that should tell you something already). Here, the problems stem from the fact that it's not a porn comic and she can't just follow a basic porn script for it.
In addition to the problems I've already described in the "acting on emotions" section, Ellen has a fundamental problem with the series's consistency. Since posting the whole comic here would waste space, I'm just gonna show you the relevant bits. More context, at least for parts 1-8, here.
Parts 1 to 3 are three unrelated instances of Ellen getting annoyed at something.
Part 1.
Part 2.
Part 3.
This is also the case with the nazi comic she posted on her Bluesky.
Starting from part 4, however, the focus shifts towards Ellen coping with her zombie status, while also starting to involve her other family members, notably, her children.
Part 4.
Part 5.
Part 6.
I'd almost call it progression, but the sudden shift from the episodic comics to comics that are still episodic, but this time focus on something wildly different, is still very jarring.
This then comes to a grinding hault when the parts 7 and 8 ended up not only being a two partner (as in, they are connected to each other), not only changed the tone drastically from the previous comics, but they aren't even tonally consistent with each other. I will post them here in full, since it's relevant here.
Part 7.
This part, also described by Ellen as "Zombie Loss",
is a sudden dramatic shift from what used to be a comedic comic, riddled with barely hidden sex jokes as punchlines.
Ellen uses the black borders and various styles of backgrounds to highlight the traumatic response Zombie Ellen has to learning her daughter became one herself.
It is completely serious, has no humor in it, and it'd be a real bloody shame if the next part read like a shitty teenage drama inst-
Oh.
Oh, I see, so that's how it is.
We will ignore the obvious elephant in the room in the form of the fact that Ellen has just implied that her daughter fucked around with a buncha guys (more in that in that unfortunate implications section) and instead move onto part 9...which is actually way more simillar to the first few parts in that it's about Ellen getting annoyed at something.
Then part 10 returns to the level of part 7 with a BLOODY SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGORY.
Now, the reason for this comic's existence is Ellen acting on her emotions. No way she'd be making something this long and taking so much effort to make when she didn't have a personal connection to it.
In fact, all of this is an analogy for something in Ellen's life, by her own word.
Now, if this comic turned out to be an analogy for dealing with the trauma of sexual assault, that'd actually be quite clever, I'll give her that. It was actually something I thought about myself.
This all, however, changed when Bonebag entered the scene.
Under the first part he was featured in, Ellen made the following comment.
It appears as if neither, because the next two parts ended up being the biggest case of instant backtracking of them all, like he knew nothing about the established story.
In them, Ellen went back on every single aspect of the story, confirming that the zombie thing was not actually a metaphore for sexual assault trauma, that she wasn't raped by brutally murdered, and that to fix it, she just has to deal with some godly entity living in a mountain.
...and that'd be it.
When Ellen got to the part that requires actual creativity, one that she has written, many times, would happen by Christmas...
...she stopped.
This is not a problem with Ellen's most common line of comics, the slice-of-life, four panel comics she puts out on the regular on her Reddit. These, due to their very nature, do not require any form of future proofing.
It's also not a problem with some of her fetish scenarios.
See, Ellen has a bit of a coomer mentality.
In her mind, any and all sex starts with a shitty porn level intro and ends when a man cums. There's no depiction of events leading up to it, no foreplay, no aftercare...nothing. Hence, since they follow the basic porn structure of "shitty intro - they undress - woman has sex with a man - man cums - done", they don't need much of a structure.
The problem comes in when Ellen cannot do that, for one reason or another. I have semi explained this when I talked about the massage comic, but Ellen just sorta...stopped caring about it as soon as she dropped the fantasy, like she didn't know how to continue. This is not an isolated example, however.
First, Body Positivity.
Around Part 4, Ellen stated that she wanted this comic to continue for two more parts.
This was the part where the two lovers entered the shower and started having sex.
They, however, encountered a fundamental problem in Ellen's judgement.
See...
Despite being supposedly bi, Ellen knows absolutely nothing about lesbian sex.
This doesn't come out of nowhere, mind you. Ellen has repeatedly demonstrated that her lineup of sex fantasies centers around men. She said that she likes to have her threesomes involve two guys because "she's greedy", ignoring the fact that FFF threesomes could do the same thing for her. Hell, she never even mentioned the word "clit" anywhere and she barely even draws pussies as anything more than a line in the crotch, even when in the middle of sexual acts and exposed.
It all leads me to believe, then, that Ellen, genuinely, doesn't understand how non heterosexual sex even works.
Therefore, since she didn't have a satisfying conclusion to the next part (most likely because you can't just have your girl cum and that's it, it doesn't work like that)...she just introduced a third character in part 6, one that's much more masculine, and delayed the problem until later. Considering that the part 10 didn't come out for eight whole months, much later.
She described the situation as of part 6 as follows.
In Part 7, Ellen blatantly shows off the fact that she genuinely has no idea what she's even doing by that point.
Part 8 then.
One thing to note is that, if Ellen ever uses the phrase "I wonder what" in her long form comic, read it as "I have no bloody idea on how to continue this, please send help". I have shown this off during that Serious Ellen section from ealrier, actually.
This is also the case in part 10.
Ellen is so preoccupied with making her fetish fantasies in a comic that not once did she stop and think "wait, what is supposed to be the conclusion to this". Frankly, in this case, I don't think she even has an answer, and this comic will just end in the only way she can think of.
The buff character pulling out a strap-on and fucking Ellen with it (and thus, use the buff girl as a stand-in for the guy, making this lesbian comic actually straight all along).
Tried and true method, what can I tell ya.
(link 1)
(archive 1)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)
The SFW (well, we'll get to it when we get to the unfortunate implications section) comic equivalent for this comparison would be the Mombie comic (only named so after part 5, that should tell you something already). Here, the problems stem from the fact that it's not a porn comic and she can't just follow a basic porn script for it.
In addition to the problems I've already described in the "acting on emotions" section, Ellen has a fundamental problem with the series's consistency. Since posting the whole comic here would waste space, I'm just gonna show you the relevant bits. More context, at least for parts 1-8, here.
Parts 1 to 3 are three unrelated instances of Ellen getting annoyed at something.
Part 1.
Part 2.
Part 3.
This is also the case with the nazi comic she posted on her Bluesky.
Starting from part 4, however, the focus shifts towards Ellen coping with her zombie status, while also starting to involve her other family members, notably, her children.
Part 4.
Part 5.
Part 6.
I'd almost call it progression, but the sudden shift from the episodic comics to comics that are still episodic, but this time focus on something wildly different, is still very jarring.
This then comes to a grinding hault when the parts 7 and 8 ended up not only being a two partner (as in, they are connected to each other), not only changed the tone drastically from the previous comics, but they aren't even tonally consistent with each other. I will post them here in full, since it's relevant here.
Part 7.
This part, also described by Ellen as "Zombie Loss",
is a sudden dramatic shift from what used to be a comedic comic, riddled with barely hidden sex jokes as punchlines.
Ellen uses the black borders and various styles of backgrounds to highlight the traumatic response Zombie Ellen has to learning her daughter became one herself.
It is completely serious, has no humor in it, and it'd be a real bloody shame if the next part read like a shitty teenage drama inst-
Oh.
Oh, I see, so that's how it is.
We will ignore the obvious elephant in the room in the form of the fact that Ellen has just implied that her daughter fucked around with a buncha guys (more in that in that unfortunate implications section) and instead move onto part 9...which is actually way more simillar to the first few parts in that it's about Ellen getting annoyed at something.
Then part 10 returns to the level of part 7 with a BLOODY SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGORY.
Now, the reason for this comic's existence is Ellen acting on her emotions. No way she'd be making something this long and taking so much effort to make when she didn't have a personal connection to it.
In fact, all of this is an analogy for something in Ellen's life, by her own word.
Now, if this comic turned out to be an analogy for dealing with the trauma of sexual assault, that'd actually be quite clever, I'll give her that. It was actually something I thought about myself.
This all, however, changed when Bonebag entered the scene.
Under the first part he was featured in, Ellen made the following comment.
It appears as if neither, because the next two parts ended up being the biggest case of instant backtracking of them all, like he knew nothing about the established story.
In them, Ellen went back on every single aspect of the story, confirming that the zombie thing was not actually a metaphore for sexual assault trauma, that she wasn't raped by brutally murdered, and that to fix it, she just has to deal with some godly entity living in a mountain.
...and that'd be it.
When Ellen got to the part that requires actual creativity, one that she has written, many times, would happen by Christmas...
...she stopped.
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Doublepost for aforementioned reasons.
That was a bit less intense than the prior parts, but do not worry, for part 6 will bring back the heat with Ellen's irritability! That one should, hopefully cover Ellen's various coping mechanisms, her inability to take criticism, her doomer culture and her fake activism. Idk when I'll make it, since I'll be busy with other things now, but stay on the lookout for that one.
Lack of planning, however, is nothing compared to the problems her impulsivity causes her in regards to the writing. Some of them are just minor inconsistencies, but one of them deserves a separate mention.
Plot holes.
Plot holes are, really, an inevitability when writing stories, especially longer ones. Sometimes, it's just not possible for someone to come up with a satisfying way to conclude a story whilst also respecting the laws it opererates by.
Therefore, the only actually bad plot holes are the ones that fundamentally break the rules of a story for no good reason.
There's a second flaw with storywriting though, to which I will get to when we'll cover the zombie comic again, but, for now, let's leave it at that.
Let's start covering the problems of her long form comics then, starting with...
I'll be covering the full comics, yes, but to save time and space, I'll be cutting between the parts I want to show you. You can read the full thing in the links I provided in one of the previous sections.
There, we quickly encounter the first type of a plot hole we need to cover.
Continuity errors.
Multiple pages of this comic seem to imply that Ellen was surprised by the boss's suggestion...whatever the nature of it might be, since the comic has you as the self insert character, you're supposed to make up your own dialogue.
She, at first, thinks the boss is trying to punish her for being late to work, something she established in part 1.
She is also surprised by her boss providing her with spare clothes.
She is then surprised at her boss's boner at the sight of her.
However, in part 4, Ellen says the following two lines.
This can imply one of two things.
One, which is not a plothole in itself, that Ellen and her boss work together and Ellen sees her boss's boner regularly, but never acts up on it.
This is, however, contradicted by the fact that Ellen has to be called into her boss's office, implying they do not share the same workspace, and, therefore, she doesn't get to see him get one.
Second, Ellen and the boss have been in a relationship for a while and Ellen is just looking forward to more. This would, however, contradict the prior sections, where it can be inferred that it's the first time she blows her boss. In fact, part 5 leans more into it.
Ellen, here, implies that she wants to continue this relation she's just begun, especially with "I'll be taking on" and not "I'm taking on" being used by her.
The Painter comic, then.
The first thing the Painter hears is the buzzing of a vibrator.
This is actually an example of an impossible event.
Why am I so certain?
Because there's something else that he should be hearing that's louder than that.
See, Ellen gets off to a porn video.
Since she is not watching the video, bu rather listening to it, and because of the fact that we see no phone in her bedroom again afterwards, we can infer that she had placed it far away from her. Since she's not shown to be on headphones either, this means she is blasting porn on her phone on full volume, something that she'd need to set to be louder than her vibe for obvious reasons.
I am so glad she doesn't seem to have kids in these porn comics.
Since the Painter not only doesn't hear it, but also hears the vibe from several meters away, something quieter than the porno, it means that this specific scenario is impossible to occur.
I will ignore several errors with the illustrations since they're not writing errors and move onto another writing error I could find.
Shortly after the painter is done fucking Ellen, Jeff shows up.
Of note, he can instantly tell that Ellen had sex.
I mean, I can't blame him, it is instantly apparent when someone has recently had sex.
However, in the alternate version where the guy creampies her, right afterwards, we get a timeskip, followed up by dialogue implying Jeff does not know about the Painter impregnating her.
Since Jeff, in the normal version, entered the room right afterwards, this means one of two things...I need to find a new way to say this.
One, Jeff did not enter the room in that version. That's a continuity error, which we've discussed before.
Two, Jeff didn't realise Ellen had sex with the painter. This is an out-of-character behaviour.
Somehow, the fact that the painter came inside Ellen and not outside means that Jeff can no longer tell his wife had sex with another man.
If this is not a continuity error, Jeff is an absolute moron. No wonder why Ellen exploits him so much!
Then...oh hey, Body Positivity, welcome again!
This one contains two big errors...ignoring the lifting thing I brought up before.
The first one actually relates to the setting itself, the showers.
See, Ellen and the chubby woman hog the shower room. Somehow, this means that the other girl cannot shower.
Most gym shower rooms do not have individual, locking, shower stalls. They're open plan.
The first page I've shown you implies that the bathroom they went to had individual shower stalls. If this was the case, and the gym genuinely had no other stalls...that'd be just shit gym shower design.
Later on, however, especially due to its size, the shower room seems to suddenly change to be open plan, with a sliding glass door at the front of it. which serves as an entrance to it from the locker room.
What she did there is an example of the retroactive continuity.
At first, she is visibly pissed at the girls for fucking in the showers...but she also is slightly dissapointed it did not involve her, and wants to join.
Then, when Ellen actually lets her in...she just ignores them.
She then turns into a showoff by the time part 9 hits and remains like that for the time being.
So, she goes from "CAN YOU TWO FUCKERS STOP FUCKING IN THIS FUCKING SHOWER", to "can I join you?", to "FUCKING FINALLY, NOW LEAVE ME ALONE", to "Oh, haha, I am pretty badass, you see". An inconsistency, to put it lightly.
Then...Mombie...oh, that one is absolute hell.
First, Jeff is the one ordered by Ellen to fix her zombie status.
Despite this, Ellen is the one to come up with cures, every single time.
While it's not an error in itself, it is greatly minimising the role of Jeff in the story, being essentially a guy that goes along with everything she does. It also depicts Jeff as a weakling who is too awed by mice to torture them, a far cry from a guy that could apparently crush Ellen with his bare hands.
Then, just a minor nitpick regarding part 4.
The sign above the door of the secret monster hideout spot reads "SOLICITORS MAY BE EATEN"
One of the rules of the group, however, is "No outside food".
This is a contradiciton.
Then, something pointed out multiple times, though only an error if the cat comic is canon and not just a way for Ellen to inform her fans that Zombie Comic will be its own thing from then on.
She finds a cure between parts 5 and 6...
...despite this, she still goes to a quack doctor in part 9...
before figuring it all out by part 10.
This, however, is nothing, compared to the issues that the parts 11 and 12 do by themselves.
First of all, Bonebag Comics lives in Texas.
Correct me if I'm wrong due to some OC shit, but I believe the distance between Nova Scotia and Texas is a bit more than a 10 hour car drive.
Second of all, Ellen, despite having a daughter that's also a zombie, didn't take her to Bonebag, despite her being sure she'd be able to help her.
This, then, becomes an even bigger plothole, when Bonebag reveals that he can actually treat zombie virus on her level.
Then, Bonebag reveals that Ellen has been attacked by a large monster that mauled her...bonus points for her saying that she was "bit" despite her being torn apart...no points for the fact that the monster didn't eat her because it might be some magic fuckery instead...what was I on about?
Oh, yeah.
So, Bonebag sew Ellen up right after stumbling upon her in a forest.
The fact that he would randomly stumble upon her whilst doing errands, as well as the fact that the mountain that he later refers to is located around his place...
means that Ellen was, for whatever reason, in his area, ten hour drive from her place, for some unknown reason.
Even weirder is the fact that, since Ellen had just turned into a zombie in part 1, with Jeff unaware of the condition,
this would mean that Bonebag not only sew her back up, but also drove her back to her home without any of her close family's knowledge...which is peak bullshit.
He also knows far too much about all of this zombie shit for his own good...I wonder if he's the villain in all of this?
Of course, the most aggregious part of all of this is that...the comic was, as I have said, all set up as a story of Ellen and her daughter dealing with trauma.
What did it turn into?
A D&D adventure where Ellen has to travel to the North Mountain and give the ancient entity that bit her something it wants, or she will remain stuck like this forever, and she has to do it alone because the entity will curse everything around her...
In conclusion...
Despite Ellen's love for longer stories, hell, even considering making full books based on her comics, something even her fans bring up all the time...
She is just not capable of that.
Not because she has no motivation, or drive that would compel her to do it.
No.
It's all because she lacks the core foundations that would allow her to make good storylines.
She has no creativity.
She has no problem solving ability.
She has no planning skills.
All she has is instinct.
Plot holes.
There are many separate types of plot holes, which I will cover, in detail, when we get to them.
Plot holes are, really, an inevitability when writing stories, especially longer ones. Sometimes, it's just not possible for someone to come up with a satisfying way to conclude a story whilst also respecting the laws it opererates by.
A movie I recently got done watching, Runaway Train, ends with the main character stopping the titular runaway train by uncoupling the front engine, something the three characters on the train could have done a long time ago by uncoupling the two lead engines from it. There, however, it's done purely to serve as a fitting conclusion, the main character and the engine being liberated from their prison of certain doom, and it can be excused.
There's a second flaw with storywriting though, to which I will get to when we'll cover the zombie comic again, but, for now, let's leave it at that.
Let's start covering the problems of her long form comics then, starting with...
I'll be covering the full comics, yes, but to save time and space, I'll be cutting between the parts I want to show you. You can read the full thing in the links I provided in one of the previous sections.
There, we quickly encounter the first type of a plot hole we need to cover.
Continuity errors.
In this case, the problem is the relation between Ellen and her boss.
Multiple pages of this comic seem to imply that Ellen was surprised by the boss's suggestion...whatever the nature of it might be, since the comic has you as the self insert character, you're supposed to make up your own dialogue.
She, at first, thinks the boss is trying to punish her for being late to work, something she established in part 1.
She is also surprised by her boss providing her with spare clothes.
She is then surprised at her boss's boner at the sight of her.
This can imply one of two things.
One, which is not a plothole in itself, that Ellen and her boss work together and Ellen sees her boss's boner regularly, but never acts up on it.
This is, however, contradicted by the fact that Ellen has to be called into her boss's office, implying they do not share the same workspace, and, therefore, she doesn't get to see him get one.
Second, Ellen and the boss have been in a relationship for a while and Ellen is just looking forward to more. This would, however, contradict the prior sections, where it can be inferred that it's the first time she blows her boss. In fact, part 5 leans more into it.
Ellen, here, implies that she wants to continue this relation she's just begun, especially with "I'll be taking on" and not "I'm taking on" being used by her.
The Painter comic, then.
The first thing the Painter hears is the buzzing of a vibrator.
This is actually an example of an impossible event.
First of all, most vibrators (then again, maybe not Spencer's Gifts ones, where Ellen buys all of her sex toys...) are purposefuly designed to be as quiet as possible to avoid this specific scenario. Even the insertable kind that Ellen uses here. There's no way he'd hear it.
Why am I so certain?
Because there's something else that he should be hearing that's louder than that.
See, Ellen gets off to a porn video.
I am so glad she doesn't seem to have kids in these porn comics.
I will ignore several errors with the illustrations since they're not writing errors and move onto another writing error I could find.
Shortly after the painter is done fucking Ellen, Jeff shows up.
Of note, he can instantly tell that Ellen had sex.
I mean, I can't blame him, it is instantly apparent when someone has recently had sex.
Since Jeff, in the normal version, entered the room right afterwards, this means one of two things...I need to find a new way to say this.
One, Jeff did not enter the room in that version. That's a continuity error, which we've discussed before.
Two, Jeff didn't realise Ellen had sex with the painter. This is an out-of-character behaviour.
In the original version, Ellen is depicted as tired, sweaty, covered in cum, with messy hair, and most definitely reeking of sex too. It's not really something you can ignore, and I know that from experience.
Somehow, the fact that the painter came inside Ellen and not outside means that Jeff can no longer tell his wife had sex with another man.
If this is not a continuity error, Jeff is an absolute moron. No wonder why Ellen exploits him so much!
Then...oh hey, Body Positivity, welcome again!
This one contains two big errors...ignoring the lifting thing I brought up before.
The first one actually relates to the setting itself, the showers.
See, Ellen and the chubby woman hog the shower room. Somehow, this means that the other girl cannot shower.
The first page I've shown you implies that the bathroom they went to had individual shower stalls. If this was the case, and the gym genuinely had no other stalls...that'd be just shit gym shower design.
Later on, however, especially due to its size, the shower room seems to suddenly change to be open plan, with a sliding glass door at the front of it. which serves as an entrance to it from the locker room.
What she did there is an example of the retroactive continuity.
Moving on, the way the buff girl is written is very weird and changes almost every panel. Not even kidding. Out of character error for sure.
At first, she is visibly pissed at the girls for fucking in the showers...but she also is slightly dissapointed it did not involve her, and wants to join.
Then, when Ellen actually lets her in...she just ignores them.
Then...Mombie...oh, that one is absolute hell.
First, Jeff is the one ordered by Ellen to fix her zombie status.
Despite this, Ellen is the one to come up with cures, every single time.
While it's not an error in itself, it is greatly minimising the role of Jeff in the story, being essentially a guy that goes along with everything she does. It also depicts Jeff as a weakling who is too awed by mice to torture them, a far cry from a guy that could apparently crush Ellen with his bare hands.
Then, just a minor nitpick regarding part 4.
The sign above the door of the secret monster hideout spot reads "SOLICITORS MAY BE EATEN"
One of the rules of the group, however, is "No outside food".
This is a contradiciton.
Then, something pointed out multiple times, though only an error if the cat comic is canon and not just a way for Ellen to inform her fans that Zombie Comic will be its own thing from then on.
She finds a cure between parts 5 and 6...
...despite this, she still goes to a quack doctor in part 9...
before figuring it all out by part 10.
This, however, is nothing, compared to the issues that the parts 11 and 12 do by themselves.
First of all, Bonebag Comics lives in Texas.
Correct me if I'm wrong due to some OC shit, but I believe the distance between Nova Scotia and Texas is a bit more than a 10 hour car drive.
Second of all, Ellen, despite having a daughter that's also a zombie, didn't take her to Bonebag, despite her being sure she'd be able to help her.
This, then, becomes an even bigger plothole, when Bonebag reveals that he can actually treat zombie virus on her level.
Then, Bonebag reveals that Ellen has been attacked by a large monster that mauled her...bonus points for her saying that she was "bit" despite her being torn apart...no points for the fact that the monster didn't eat her because it might be some magic fuckery instead...what was I on about?
Oh, yeah.
So, Bonebag sew Ellen up right after stumbling upon her in a forest.
The fact that he would randomly stumble upon her whilst doing errands, as well as the fact that the mountain that he later refers to is located around his place...
means that Ellen was, for whatever reason, in his area, ten hour drive from her place, for some unknown reason.
Even weirder is the fact that, since Ellen had just turned into a zombie in part 1, with Jeff unaware of the condition,
this would mean that Bonebag not only sew her back up, but also drove her back to her home without any of her close family's knowledge...which is peak bullshit.
He also knows far too much about all of this zombie shit for his own good...I wonder if he's the villain in all of this?
Of course, the most aggregious part of all of this is that...the comic was, as I have said, all set up as a story of Ellen and her daughter dealing with trauma.
What did it turn into?
A D&D adventure where Ellen has to travel to the North Mountain and give the ancient entity that bit her something it wants, or she will remain stuck like this forever, and she has to do it alone because the entity will curse everything around her...
In conclusion...
Despite Ellen's love for longer stories, hell, even considering making full books based on her comics, something even her fans bring up all the time...
She is just not capable of that.
Not because she has no motivation, or drive that would compel her to do it.
No.
It's all because she lacks the core foundations that would allow her to make good storylines.
She has no creativity.
She has no problem solving ability.
She has no planning skills.
All she has is instinct.
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Sperg on you crazy diamond.
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Maybe Ellen is appart of gods chosen people lmfao.
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It's not a plot error. She has just a funny and silly way of expressing herself. Her comics show life is just a beautiful kaleidoscope of unforgettably comical and tragical situations and I believe her Ellen character is faithful to herself and thus very lovable and relatable. Each of us should be a tad more Ellen and take life not too seriously. <3
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Alright, so, idk if it's by sheer coincidence, because of my psychic ability, or Ellen seeing the prior part and wanting to sabotage my attempt at exposing her for who she really is, but one thing's for certain...
Body Positivity Part 11 dropped after a whole month of nothing and it has already leaked.
I didn't even mean to write anything today, I wanted to celebrate the New Year's and focus on my own life stuff, but another person informed me of this fact after reading my previous posts on the subject and now it appears my well deserved break will have to be delayed yet again...
Now, I considered updating the part 5 of the analysis with the updates it brings to the table, since it's the part that covers the Body Positivity comic the most extensively, but I've decided to just make an addenum, a part 5,5, if you will, since a), it would utterly break the order of that part again and probably push the first half of it over the character limit again, and b), I would probably not be done with that part by the edit deadline. which appears to be 24 hours.
Therefore, I present to you, part 5,5.
...but there's more.
This is actually unrelated to the above, but whilst going through Kemono to get pics for this section, I've noticed that...some of the bonus content leaked this time.
And, dear god, is it absolutely dreadful.
Body Positivity Part 11 dropped after a whole month of nothing and it has already leaked.
I didn't even mean to write anything today, I wanted to celebrate the New Year's and focus on my own life stuff, but another person informed me of this fact after reading my previous posts on the subject and now it appears my well deserved break will have to be delayed yet again...
Now, I considered updating the part 5 of the analysis with the updates it brings to the table, since it's the part that covers the Body Positivity comic the most extensively, but I've decided to just make an addenum, a part 5,5, if you will, since a), it would utterly break the order of that part again and probably push the first half of it over the character limit again, and b), I would probably not be done with that part by the edit deadline. which appears to be 24 hours.
Therefore, I present to you, part 5,5.
First, to get it out of the way...
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(archive)
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...she really has a thing for fucking up stories when they get to part 11, huh?
This part is relatively long. In fact, it's tied with the Part 9 for the title of the longest Body Positivity part so far...and it displays almost every single problem with Ellen's writing we have discussed so far!
Hell, even adds some new ones into the mix!
Let's go in the page order. I'll refer to the various problems we've went over prior to this when we get to them.
First page...or, rather, the fact that it is the first page, displays a whole another problem we haven't yet gotten to!
Specifically, what's called a non sequitur.
That, or she is just too horny to make this comic contain any coherent plot. In this case, this is only an error because Ellen unironically believes this is a coherent storyline and not a collection of porn drawings, and she even refers to these p#45$ as "chapters".
In other words, she "tapped out".
...get it?
...because they broke a tap later on?
...get it...
fine, no comedy.
As a reminder, Part 9 ended with the girls asking the girl to lift them.
Part 10 depicted this.
Since part 10 ends with the girl showing off and part 11 opens with the girls alredy well into the carpet munching session, we have skipped over a larger chunk of the story, namely...
ALL OF THE CONSENT PART, HELLO?
IS SHE GENUINELY SO INVESTED IN WRITING ODDLY STRAIGHT YURI SMUT THAT SHE FORGOT TO MAKE A PART WHERE THE GIRLS ASKS HER IF SHE WANTS TO JOIN IN AND THEY GET TO IT?
SHE CANCELLED A COMIC FOR IT IN THE PAST, I HAVE SHOWN YOU THAT!
WHY DOES SHE THINK THAT LACK OF CONSENT IS ONLY AN ISSUE WHEN IT'S A MAN RAPING A WOMAN?
...okay, okay, I know that it irks me, but this is genuinely a big deal, it means that Ellen gives no fuck about clarifying that the works she draws depict consensual events.
And no, the fact that the girl states in an ealrier part, offhandedly, that she'd like to join in is not an admission of consent. Many people have fantasies about scenarios they would not want to participate in for real, like kidnappings, or...rape...
The canadian law, as I have shown in part 2, clearly defines this as a scenario of no consent obtained.
Actually, yeah, let's talk about it.
I have already made a section about it, so I'm not gonna repeat myself here and let myself do the talking for me.
So she goes from annoyance/anger, to hope, to relief, to cockyness, to horny.
Not even the five stages of grief are this wild.
I think this shows quite well that Ellen genuinely has no idea how to write characters.
Hell, one way you could fix her that I just came up with on the spot that would save all of it?
Make the buff girl a tsundere.
When she's eventually let in, she'd react the same way she does here...but her reaction to the girls saying she has a sexy body would be "...do I? I trained all my life and I still have no muscle".
It'd then lead to the girls comforting her, saying how she looks very sexy, how she shouldn't worry about herself (that'd be, y'know, Body Positivity, the name of the comic, hello?), which she would then answer with "...you really think so?" and then hug the two, as depicted in part 10.
The girls would then comment on the interaction from ealrier, with Ellen going "So, you enjoyed the show?", the girl going "Yeah, I guess", then Ellen responding "Would you like to join us?", a panel of the buff girl being shocked at it, and then going "Sure, why not?", with the chubby girl jumping her, going "I KNEW SHE WAS INTO IT!".
Then, everything, including the sudden jump cut, would make sense.
I made this in five minutes, there's no way Ellen, a bloody comic artist, wouldn't be able to make something like this unless she was horribly incompetent at writing compelling plots.
Then, notice how each of the four panels showing the threesome...never actually depicts a threesome.
Instead, it's the buff girl pleasing Ellen, then Ellen pleasing the buff girl, then the fat OC pleasing the buff girl, then the buff girl pleasing the fat OC.
Despite this situation being a group act, there's no group sex at all. Probably because Ellen genuinely can't make draw proper threesomes.
I mean, hell, even her straight ones suck.
Like, what the hell is this?
Mind you, this is not just a random artpiece I cherrypicked, no, this is literally from her Onlyfans post, titled...I kid you not...
I am dead. fucking. serious.
DEAD.
FUCKING.
SERIOUS.
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(coomer)
In fact, the only two times the three of them are on screen at the same time are when the buff girl yells at them from the outside, and then when the buff girl hugs them. She clearly struggles with drawing multiple characters in a single page.
Then, let's cover her various drawing inconsistencies, shall we?
Excuse me for a bit, for they are nitpicks.
First, suddenly, a wooden bench pops up in the shower room.
I am saying using the term "wooden bench" conservatively, since, with its size, it might even be a table.
I don't think I need to explain to you why wooden furniture in a constantly wet and damp enviroment is a terrible idea.
Immediately in the next panel we get another error, in the form of the fucked up perspective.
Pretty sure all of this stems from the fact that Ellen is directly copying something she saw in a porn movie, rather than use her pre-established setting (which, even then, is only really implied and not something that she set in stone at the very beginning).
This is also why the showers look like they do, open plan, separate from the rest of the locker room, with sinks in them, Ellen's not using any specific setting for these comics, but, rather, a combination of what she saw in porn. It was just less of a glaring issue before part 6 (when the shower was a private stall, instead of a big, open room) and before part 11, which, as you can see, is just a slideshow.
The biggest error, however, comes in when we get to the final two panels.
In the prior sections, I wondered how Ellen would end a yuri comic, considering she completely misunderstands how yuri works.
I've now got an answer.
...actually, no, I won't.
This is a ripoff of an ending of an infamous furry porn animation, "Leak", by Eipril.
Hell, this wasn't even the main joke in this instance, as the "leak" there also referred to the fact their condom punctured, which I cut out of this.
The problem here, however, bar another case of joke stealing (refer to the plagiarism section), is not actually this actual scenario by itself, but, rather, the way she integreated it into the story.
The first is the fact that the bathroom now has two different sink designs, solely to allow the other sink to fail.
The second relates to the final panel.
Water is shown leaking from beneath the locker room door as soon as the sink failure occurs.
I'd be here all day, wondering about the flow rates of water pipes, if not for the fact that there's an easier way to declare this an impossible scenario.
This is not the correct door.
See, the spill occured in the bathroom/shower room, which has tiled walls, and that the three never actually left.
The door from there to the shower room is depicted in the same panel I referred to many times prior.
This is supported by the fact that the locker room walls are blue, like here, as seen in the first few parts of the comic, and not salmon, like in the final page.
Therefore...in the span of time it took for the sink to fail and the girls to fall to the ground, the water managed to not only flood the shower room, leak from under the door (something very unlikely, considering that shower rooms are designed to be floodproof on purpose...) into the locker room, flood the whole locker room, but then also flow out from under the main locker room door...
...yeah, I call bullshit on that.
Besides, the corridor in front of the door has a tiled surface, .which'd imply that this is the door to the actual showers...that is absolute bullshit, why the fuck would the showers be connected directly to the locker room's entrance and you had to pass by them to get to the lockers?
Hey, hopefully this sudden resolution that breaks everything means that the next part will end this whole charade...unless Ellen is actually into blood.
I, for my own sanity's sake, hope not.
In conclusion, based solely on this one part of this one comic, I think we can conclude that Ellen is unable to write coherent, long form content.
Too bad I can.
I also can write comedy!...at least I think so...
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)
This part is relatively long. In fact, it's tied with the Part 9 for the title of the longest Body Positivity part so far...and it displays almost every single problem with Ellen's writing we have discussed so far!
Hell, even adds some new ones into the mix!
Let's go in the page order. I'll refer to the various problems we've went over prior to this when we get to them.
First page...or, rather, the fact that it is the first page, displays a whole another problem we haven't yet gotten to!
Specifically, what's called a non sequitur.
A non sequitur, in this context, is an abrupt jump to the next part of the story with no explanation given. It's usually used for comedic effect, as denoted above, but here, Ellen uses it simply because she doesn't know how to advance to the next part of the story.
That, or she is just too horny to make this comic contain any coherent plot. In this case, this is only an error because Ellen unironically believes this is a coherent storyline and not a collection of porn drawings, and she even refers to these p#45$ as "chapters".
In other words, she "tapped out".
...get it?
...because they broke a tap later on?
...get it...
fine, no comedy.
As a reminder, Part 9 ended with the girls asking the girl to lift them.
ALL OF THE CONSENT PART, HELLO?
IS SHE GENUINELY SO INVESTED IN WRITING ODDLY STRAIGHT YURI SMUT THAT SHE FORGOT TO MAKE A PART WHERE THE GIRLS ASKS HER IF SHE WANTS TO JOIN IN AND THEY GET TO IT?
SHE CANCELLED A COMIC FOR IT IN THE PAST, I HAVE SHOWN YOU THAT!
WHY DOES SHE THINK THAT LACK OF CONSENT IS ONLY AN ISSUE WHEN IT'S A MAN RAPING A WOMAN?
...okay, okay, I know that it irks me, but this is genuinely a big deal, it means that Ellen gives no fuck about clarifying that the works she draws depict consensual events.
And no, the fact that the girl states in an ealrier part, offhandedly, that she'd like to join in is not an admission of consent. Many people have fantasies about scenarios they would not want to participate in for real, like kidnappings, or...rape...
The canadian law, as I have shown in part 2, clearly defines this as a scenario of no consent obtained.
Actually, yeah, let's talk about it.
I have already made a section about it, so I'm not gonna repeat myself here and let myself do the talking for me.
Now, right after the "Oh, haha, I am pretty badass, you see", she goes "YOOO, LESBIAN FUCKFEST".The way the buff girl is written is very weird and changes almost every panel. Not even kidding. Out of character error for sure.
At first, she is visibly pissed at the girls for fucking in the showers...but she also is slightly dissapointed it did not involve her, and wants to join.
Then, when Ellen actually lets her in...she just ignores them.
She then turns into a showoff by the time part 9 hits and remains like that for the time being.
So, she goes from "CAN YOU TWO FUCKERS STOP FUCKING IN THIS FUCKING SHOWER", to "can I join you?", to "FUCKING FINALLY, NOW LEAVE ME ALONE", to "Oh, haha, I am pretty badass, you see". An inconsistency, to put it lightly.
So she goes from annoyance/anger, to hope, to relief, to cockyness, to horny.
Not even the five stages of grief are this wild.
I think this shows quite well that Ellen genuinely has no idea how to write characters.
Hell, one way you could fix her that I just came up with on the spot that would save all of it?
Make the buff girl a tsundere.
At first, the girl would be pissed at the other girls for hogging the bathroom, but she would just stand there...silently...looking away, head down.
When she's eventually let in, she'd react the same way she does here...but her reaction to the girls saying she has a sexy body would be "...do I? I trained all my life and I still have no muscle".
It'd then lead to the girls comforting her, saying how she looks very sexy, how she shouldn't worry about herself (that'd be, y'know, Body Positivity, the name of the comic, hello?), which she would then answer with "...you really think so?" and then hug the two, as depicted in part 10.
The girls would then comment on the interaction from ealrier, with Ellen going "So, you enjoyed the show?", the girl going "Yeah, I guess", then Ellen responding "Would you like to join us?", a panel of the buff girl being shocked at it, and then going "Sure, why not?", with the chubby girl jumping her, going "I KNEW SHE WAS INTO IT!".
Then, everything, including the sudden jump cut, would make sense.
I made this in five minutes, there's no way Ellen, a bloody comic artist, wouldn't be able to make something like this unless she was horribly incompetent at writing compelling plots.
Then, notice how each of the four panels showing the threesome...never actually depicts a threesome.
Instead, it's the buff girl pleasing Ellen, then Ellen pleasing the buff girl, then the fat OC pleasing the buff girl, then the buff girl pleasing the fat OC.
Despite this situation being a group act, there's no group sex at all. Probably because Ellen genuinely can't make draw proper threesomes.
I mean, hell, even her straight ones suck.
Like, what the hell is this?
I am dead. fucking. serious.
DEAD.
FUCKING.
SERIOUS.
(link)
(archive)
(coomer)
In fact, the only two times the three of them are on screen at the same time are when the buff girl yells at them from the outside, and then when the buff girl hugs them. She clearly struggles with drawing multiple characters in a single page.
Then, let's cover her various drawing inconsistencies, shall we?
Excuse me for a bit, for they are nitpicks.
First, suddenly, a wooden bench pops up in the shower room.
I am saying using the term "wooden bench" conservatively, since, with its size, it might even be a table.
I don't think I need to explain to you why wooden furniture in a constantly wet and damp enviroment is a terrible idea.
Immediately in the next panel we get another error, in the form of the fucked up perspective.
This is also why the showers look like they do, open plan, separate from the rest of the locker room, with sinks in them, Ellen's not using any specific setting for these comics, but, rather, a combination of what she saw in porn. It was just less of a glaring issue before part 6 (when the shower was a private stall, instead of a big, open room) and before part 11, which, as you can see, is just a slideshow.
The biggest error, however, comes in when we get to the final two panels.
In the prior sections, I wondered how Ellen would end a yuri comic, considering she completely misunderstands how yuri works.
I've now got an answer.
I'll let her off for this, as this is actual comedy and not "oh hey, I brought a strap-on with me, wanna see?" that I 100% anticipated.
...actually, no, I won't.
This is a ripoff of an ending of an infamous furry porn animation, "Leak", by Eipril.
The problem here, however, bar another case of joke stealing (refer to the plagiarism section), is not actually this actual scenario by itself, but, rather, the way she integreated it into the story.
The first is the fact that the bathroom now has two different sink designs, solely to allow the other sink to fail.
Water is shown leaking from beneath the locker room door as soon as the sink failure occurs.
I'd be here all day, wondering about the flow rates of water pipes, if not for the fact that there's an easier way to declare this an impossible scenario.
This is not the correct door.
See, the spill occured in the bathroom/shower room, which has tiled walls, and that the three never actually left.
The door from there to the shower room is depicted in the same panel I referred to many times prior.
Therefore...in the span of time it took for the sink to fail and the girls to fall to the ground, the water managed to not only flood the shower room, leak from under the door (something very unlikely, considering that shower rooms are designed to be floodproof on purpose...) into the locker room, flood the whole locker room, but then also flow out from under the main locker room door...
...yeah, I call bullshit on that.
Besides, the corridor in front of the door has a tiled surface, .which'd imply that this is the door to the actual showers...that is absolute bullshit, why the fuck would the showers be connected directly to the locker room's entrance and you had to pass by them to get to the lockers?
Hey, hopefully this sudden resolution that breaks everything means that the next part will end this whole charade...unless Ellen is actually into blood.
I, for my own sanity's sake, hope not.
In conclusion, based solely on this one part of this one comic, I think we can conclude that Ellen is unable to write coherent, long form content.
Too bad I can.
I also can write comedy!...at least I think so...
This is actually unrelated to the above, but whilst going through Kemono to get pics for this section, I've noticed that...some of the bonus content leaked this time.
And, dear god, is it absolutely dreadful.
Specifically, bonus tiers of four recent shoots.
First, "Keeping Cozy"
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(kemono)
Then, the bloody zombie cosplay...
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(kemono)
Then, the two Christmas cosplays.Nice...
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...and naughty...
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(kemono)
...she may say they're "nice", but it's the same shit every time, shit that scars my eyes and opens up my wounds.
I wish she actually put any effort into these...eh, who am I kidding, it's just easy material to pump out...people pay $58 for the priveledge of seeing this, afterall.
First, "Keeping Cozy"
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I wish she actually put any effort into these...eh, who am I kidding, it's just easy material to pump out...people pay $58 for the priveledge of seeing this, afterall.
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Ellen's "trying to look sexy" face looks more like she's the white girl at a party on the verge of passing out. Not a good look, especially for a mom with two kids.
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God I hate the whole lesbian shit. This is what a man would think happens in the female bathroom of the gym. Most gyms have a very strict time limit in the bathroom unless they have saunas in it. Often times female staff members will check if something is wrong if they hear anything bad. If they see patrons having sex, well in the USA and CAN, it’s considered public sex and an arrestable offense.
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ZBT do you want Ellen to upload a signed consent form and liability waiver signed by every fictional character that she shows engaged in a sex act?
Here is a list of red flags you can use to gauge whether a drawing may be depicting rape:
Here is a list of red flags you can use to gauge whether a drawing may be depicting rape:
- One of the involved parties is in pain
- Someone is asking explicitly for sex to stop and the other person/people do not stop
- Someone is crying, screaming, wincing or otherwise shown having a bad time
- A participant is heavily inebriated or passed out
- Verbal or physical coercion is explicitly depicted
- One or more parties are underage or mentally handicapped