📚 Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

Shakira Flabbergasted said:
Call me crazy, but I think it should be considered a grievous breach of the Hippocratic oath for a surgeon to remove a person's healthy body parts just because they request it. Even if the patient is able to pay out of pocket, any doctor willing to intentionally maim a person for money shouldn't be practicing medicine.
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Agree, but I didn't want to get into morality or ethics. To me, the clearest and least debatable aspect of the impact is financial - because there's no way we'd have even 5% of the "gender" surgeries we have seen in the last 10 years if those surgeries weren't covered by insurance, which is a very new and ridiculous situation, and covered care costs everyone in the insurance pool, which is all of us who buy insurance and pay taxes. And insurers paying for x means they cut back on paying for y.

Cancer patients can't get coverage outside of specific "evidence-based" options, but sure, let's pay 5, 6, 7 figures for some angsty 16-year-old with a different favorite color every week and moping in her bedroom to grow a pube 'stache or get her breasts lopped off, with a giant seal of medical approval. If people (or their parents) are just so anxiety-ridden and disturbed by internet-amped unhappiness and amateur "diagnoses" and suicide threats, if it matters that much and is so real, then they can work like hell and save up for it. And, like I said, for the aftermath.
 
hey god it's me again said:
There are a multitude of solutions to all of these before a mastectomy, and I hate how the (Western) world has productized surgeries that people forget it's a surgery.
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Less Than Zero said:
This is exactly what porn addicts say to women who get breast reductions. I think it's a major excuse, because I think they would've tried to do those things you mention before paying for a costly surgery.
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LOL. I didn't bother reading the rest of your rebuttals because you're clearly experiencing cognitive dissonance about expressing wrongthink that you had a kneejerk reaction. I bet you thought I was getting mad about young women getting their titties cut off because it's killing my boner.

Idk how to be honest with her about this without sounding mean, and tbh I think she would still be hot as a guy. Like her tits are small anyways so she probably wouldn't even need surgery idk
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Sounds like what porn addicts say to women who want to get breast reductions.
 
Less Than Zero said:
And why's it bother you that they want to be yaoi vampires or whatever? Live and let live I guess, more power to them if they pass well.
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1. I lived through the nineties, it doesn't bother me at all. Western trooning and especially pooning is self-inflicted on a personal AND civilizational levels, I'm in this thread for schadenfreude.

2. They don't "pass", learn to read. They sacrifice health and an excellent start IRL for high status among fat doughy pooners, as conspicious (and feminine!) holy martyrs. Which would be a shit deal as it is (but "better" than testosterone or the rotdog), but the real kicker is fashions change, they're all induced by for-profit media, and the tit-chopper's autistic commitment to yaoi vampires will be worth diddly squat when space dragoons or Chinese cultivators become trendy. And that assuming they stop at the tit chop, bad decisions are comorbid. Can't be a hot vampire if you're bald with a pube beard.
 
Magic Pickle said:
Surgeon was Dr. John Whitehead of Restore Medical. You caught a real nasty one here, Con! But don't feel too bad
because according to him, he doesn't even mind being botched because it's still better than what he had. And as of three hours ago (of writing this post), he's at the hospital and allegedly his surgeon is saying shady shit like "You don't need to see other doctors as they are unfamiliar with this surgery and will do things to make it worse." One to keep an eye on!
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This is proof enough to me (not that we needed more) that SRS surgeons are more often psychopaths. Its a perfect storm of """fighting stigma""" and deaths being not cared for (because talking about it "makes transphobes right"). I feel like SRS surgery is probably the new field where psychopaths can go to fuck around and get paid. This USED to exist in experimental medicine (which is far less prevalent now) but it feels like would be serial killers can do this to get a kick legally, and get paid. And the clients end up defending them.

healing rain said:
The I can’t sleep pfp really confirms this for me.
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I once theorized that shit like that is lowkey a pooner primer. Logic being I think a lot of trannies and pooners become that way because they grow to see life as their born sex as hell. And if you know much about those animations, the woman in it never has a good time....and if you thought shit like that WAS what being a woman meant, pooning out suddenly seems quite logical. Because why would you CHOOSE suffering?

Too many pooners I've met if you get to know them better they confess being victims of horrible abuse and poon out to "not be a victim anymore".
 
healing rain said:
He seems like one of those creepy alt fuckboys looking to take sexual advantage of mentally ill women
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If you really see me that way I'm truly sorry. I was kind of playing a strawman going off of my friends' arguments that I've heard them say. I still can't definitively say what I think about this, because I honestly don't know much.
hey god it's me again said:
you're clearly experiencing cognitive dissonance about expressing wrongthink that you had a kneejerk reaction.
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maybe so
Less Than Zero said:
It's funny you think I'm this given I get accused of being a chud IRL
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This is still true, and it's why I'm skeptical about all this in the first place. It feels like I'm being shoved between one direction or another, and as others said the one that's socially dominant is winning. It's hard to process
I'll read Unkind by Victoria Smith @fitty tucker recommended and be back on this site after, maybe it'll change things
Hooked on phobics said:
I once theorized that shit like that is lowkey a pooner primer.
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Because cutting away healthy body parts is stupidity of the highest order and should always be picked and subject to open displays of disgust. Chasing an imaginary silver bullet for problems isn't bravery, it's cowardice and laziness .

Take your simpering fetish fantasies back to Reddit. No one buys your "just asking questions."
 
Just a bite-sized post to get this thread back on track before I do another massive haul. The new year is coming upon us, and I've been posting up a storm lately and need my rest to enter 2026 with even more transphobia than ever before!

(Before we begin, for an update on the horrific stinkditch of Eve Panzarino. the troon under conservatorship: he's still in the hospital. Only time will tell how the story ends for our hapless hero.)

Merely days after her last update, Winter_Hovercraft163 returns to r/phallo to showcase just how horrifying a failing 'dog graft can get. Anyone wanna make bets on whether we're going to get a PDD (partial dong death) or TDD (total dong death)?
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[Update] - looks like skin graft is completely failing (TW: Gore & open wound)​

Photo 1 - at the hospital (3 days post op); last photo - today (13 days post op).

It looks like things are just getting worse and I’m worried the entire graft will fail. I’m not sure what will happen if the wound separation continues upward towards the tip.

I’ve got my post op with my surgeon tmr.
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guinepsees also returns to give us a downright dreadful underview shot of the mutilation received at the hands of Dr. Bluebond-Langner. A lurker kiwi who gets previews of my hauls before they go live made mention that the coloring was more egregious due to the contrast of OP's dark skin against her inside meat, and I'm inclined to agree with her assessment because that shit looks down right mutated. Diversity win?
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Had my second post op appointment today. Catheter came out!​

They filled my bladder and took out the catheter then I had to go to the bathroom and pee. They did an ultrasound after and then I was cleared to go home.

Everything is healing great! They gave me Silvadene cream 1% for that spot on my scrotum. I have to apply it twice a day. It’s not necrosis or anything.

I’ll update yall again next week!
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And for a new addition to the thread, have a nasty little hole punched into the body of a nasty little man to round things out. Something about the way he wrote his post gives me Gollum vibes, and I gotta tell you guys, this shit is definitely not precious.
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4 weeks post SRS, should I be concerned?​

With the first picture I’m like omg she’s so cute and she’s mine! I’m so proud of my vulva and vagina! 6.5 inches too. But in the second photo when she’s swollen for obvious reasons, it just isn’t what I’m going for.

I previously had a zero depth vulvaplasty and they wrongly left in big erectile muscles along the vulva. So this surgery I had those muscles removed and a vagina added as well. Previously the whole structure was extended out and would swell - not very aesthetic-like. But now it seems it’s still happening in the inner side between the upper vulva.

Is this something I will have to fix eventually? Any advice?
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@Less Than Zero I hope you actually consider what I said. I try to be charitable thinking you are just misguided, but a meme image reaction comes off like sheer dismissal. You've stated before you wanted to "let people be themselves", but knowing the why is critical. If these pooners are largely doing this because of such horrifying perspectives, its only kind to dissuade them from doing that, since that WON'T stop abuse, and it causes more damage along the way.

I really mean what I say BTW. I think transsexualism is often adjacent to high degrees of sexism on both sides. Butch girls being pooners effeminate men becoming trannies, and often with precursors of horrible treatment prior.

Thats why I think the suicide rate never goes down post surgery, or even spikes : if you invest so much into crippling surgeries, just to figure out that was never the problem, wanting to kill yourself makes sense, as its the cherry on top : not only did you waste all that time and NOT fix the issue, but you ruined your life in the process : all because the prescribed mentality is "JUST ONE MORE THING AND YOU ARE A MAN / WOMAN, AND IT WILL BE BETTER".

AI generated waifu said:
Pubic hair found above a neovagina actually
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I think such compilations are fascinating in terms of they really blur the lines of NSFW. Like on the farms (and with the crotch part since its obvious) you couldn't hide it, but from the waist up I think you could put that anywhere else and nobody would be the wiser. It would look uncanny, but would anyone know it was SRS pictures???

Idk why but such a thing I find kinda amusing.
 
Less Than Zero said:
Do you guys think some people could look better with top surgery? I mean in the end it is just augmentation isn't it
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These procedures are NOT the same as the reduction surgeries undergone by both women and men for oversized breasts.

Hooked on phobics said:
This is proof enough to me (not that we needed more) that SRS surgeons are more often psychopaths. Its a perfect storm of """fighting stigma""" and deaths being not cared for (because talking about it "makes transphobes right"). I feel like SRS surgery is probably the new field where psychopaths can go to fuck around and get paid. This USED to exist in experimental medicine (which is far less prevalent now) but it feels like would be serial killers can do this to get a kick legally, and get paid. And the clients end up defending them.
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Here's a link to the office of the "surgeon" who put the infected Cthulu between the person's legs.


This guy was big news for a while. I remembered the story about the toddler from my region who got a trachea transplant that was fortified with stem cells, who later died, but I didn't realize she was a victim, not a pioneer.

 
Hooked on phobics said:
Too many pooners I've met if you get to know them better they confess being victims of horrible abuse and poon out to "not be a victim anymore".
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No. They are claiming to have been abused, not "confessing". Claims of muh aboos are pretty much de rigueur amongst Pooners because they know other women will take them at face value and never question their veracity.
Always remember, first and foremost, that Troons and Pooners are liars.
Most of the ones claiming they Pooned Out "to not be a victim anymore" are simply repeating something they saw on Reddit.
I reiterate: they are always liars.
 
Iron Jaguar said:
No. They are claiming to have been abused, not "confessing". Claims of muh aboos are pretty much de rigueur amongst Pooners because they know other women will take them at face value and never question their veracity.
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Sorry but I consider a little girl getting anally raped when 9 abuse. That will not change. And why WOULD they lie about this CAUSING them being trans?
Iron Jaguar said:
Always remember, first and foremost, that Troons and Pooners are liars.
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usually yes, but this is why I denote getting to know them, IE, friendly enough to get filed as an "ally" and they WILL tell the truth eventually.

Saying they ALWAYS lie is kinda fucking retarded. Its better to ask WHY they lie, and they lie because awkward social issues, self benefit, and protecting their "trans" status. If you are considered close enough, they will still tell the truth.

Also again, why would they LIE about getting raped turning them trans, when that would hurt their trans status?

Seriously lay off the drugs, I know they tend to lie but you aren't far off from thinking the sky is green because a tranny says its blue. Nobody lies without some sort of reasoning behind it.
 
Hooked on phobics said:
Saying they ALWAYS lie is kinda fucking retarded
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Learn to understand the difference between broad generalisations and specifics, imbecile. I am saying that the default state of someone who claims to be the opposite sex is "liar". They might occasionally be truthful about something but even that would be coloured through the kaleidoscope of their willingness to lie about basic, observable facts of reality.
 
Less Than Zero said:
Do you guys think some people could look better with top surgery? I mean in the end it is just augmentation isn't it
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No it’s stupid and vain and I don’t like the idea of teen girls getting breast augmentation to be sexier (to a certain kind of person anyway, beauty in the eye of the beholder and what not) any more than I like the idea of teen girls getting their breasts cut off to be sexier to a different (more perverted and horrifying) kind of person.

Maybe if you were genuinely Shrek-kin and profoundly distressed over a really ugly body part, I could be convinced that this person would benefit from plastic surgery. But their expectations would need to be realistic. The doctor should be (is actually) ethically required to spell out what the procedure will and won’t accomplish. It would be unethical if that hypothetical shrek person’s expectations were they’d recover from surgery and look like Cameron Diaz. *

I don’t think trannies check any of those boxes. They want something they can’t have (become the opposite sex: no plastic surgery will do that for them), their expectations are really high (just look at their own idealized depictions of themselves in art and filtered selfies etc.) and they’ll recover from one surgery and decide “oh well that only sort of solved my problem time to book another surgery”. Money mint for an unscrupulous gender med surgeon but genuinely unfair to the patients.

* I would also be fine with plastic surgical procedures that help a persons body function, like removing excess skin off someone who lost a lot of weight, or reconstructing a body part that never formed right (cleft palate) or got injured. But that’s not purely aesthetic anymore.
 
Less Than Zero said:
Is this "horrific"? Does this make you punch the wall at how "disgusting" it is? It's barely noticeable at all.
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It is horrific yes. If she lost them to cancer it’s horrific to her. If she wanted to chop then off to look more male then it’s horrific because she’s a woman. She can’t be a man
Can breast surgery make someone ‘look better’? Well if it’s to correct a noticeable deformity it might help them, but the removal of healthy breasts for mental illness? Yeah that’s horrific and disgusting
 
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