GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Prices seem to be about $5000-$8000... is that a good deal? I have no idea.
Apparently 7 months ago they were going for $15,000+ so it does look like a price drop.
 
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August Levasseur said:
The more I’ve looked into seriously running AIs at home, the less I’m convinced that any of these AI datacenter companies are going to come out on top. Smaller models are able to be much more power efficient without sacrificing much in terms of quality of the results. You could imagine a company running a bunch of them locally on their employee’s workstations, or even spending $5-10k on a really high end AI server in their building, plus however much on a support contract, instead of $100/month forever for all of their engineers. At some point, local just makes way more sense than remote. Especially with how hungry these companies are for user data, I wouldn’t expect any of them to respect their enterprise customers’ privacy expectations. Facebook broke the law downloading LibGen to train its servers, who’s to say they won’t break their contracts to absorb client data into their servers?
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Running a model is a lot easier than training a model, so you're not wrong about being able to run many of them locally. Though it does depend how specialised the model is. If you want some utterly general "AI" that you can ask anything - which is what most people want - then you want something in a data centre. Loading and unloading models locally for different purposes is slow. Of course with AIs now being more and more able to go out and search for the information they need online that adds flexibility to the local models as well.

I think it's more a question of competition. The big vendors will do everything they can to get you to use online models one way or another. From crippling hardware and OSs to making it cumbersome to access the latest information (keeping your local model up to date is a genuine problem).

Betonhaus said:
Can anyone confirm? It would be nice if the crash was starting.
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"Nice".

You're observing all this from orbit then, I presume?
 
August Levasseur said:
The A100 was released in 2020, it uses the same microarchitecture as the 30 series GPUs, and the Nintendo Switch 2. Companies offloading 6 year old cards as they get newer ones is entirely reasonable and not indicative of anything.
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Would the people snapping up these used cards at a good price sell their previous less powerful cards for cheap, leading to a drop in price for the 3060?
 
DavidS877 said:
No.
The market for a used A100 or other datacenter card does not overlap with the market for a 3060.
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Someone buys the A100 for dirt cheap, sells their midrange AI gpu. Someone buys that GPU for a steal, sells their low end AI gpu. Someone buys that one for a steal, sells their high end consumer GPU. Someone buys that for a steal, and unloads their 3060 for a cheap price.
 
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Is this the correct thread to get SSD recommendations? If not, feel free to yell at me.

I had a family friend build my current PC back in 2017. The old girl is starting to show her age when it comes to games and a former friend recommended I get an SSD to deal with game loading times etc. but I am genuinely retarded when it comes to hardware, so if anyone can give me some pointers or recommendations I'd be much obliged.
I've already been suggested a Kingston KC3000 SSD which would come out at around 400 american dollars, alternatively I've also been suggested a Samsung 970 EVO Plus to a much more affordable 78 dollars converted from my local prices.
I'm willing to set my budget at 400 dollars if it means a better investment in the long term, but a cheaper one will do just fine if it fits my machine better.
Thanks in advance.
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PetiteFeet said:
Is this the correct thread to get SSD recommendations? If not, feel free to yell at me.

I had a family friend build my current PC back in 2017. The old girl is starting to show her age when it comes to games and a former friend recommended I get an SSD to deal with game loading times etc. but I am genuinely retarded when it comes to hardware, so if anyone can give me some pointers or recommendations I'd be much obliged.
I've already been suggested a Kingston KC3000 SSD which would come out at around 400 american dollars, alternatively I've also been suggested a Samsung 970 EVO Plus to a much more affordable 78 dollars converted from my local prices.
I'm willing to set my budget at 400 dollars if it means a better investment in the long term, but a cheaper one will do just fine if it fits my machine better.
Thanks in advance.
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At this point, the only real consideration for an SSD is size. 256 GB is probably fine unless you were planning on playing the newest Call of Duty. 1TB would work better if you're planning on replacing your main drive and running several games off of it.
 
PetiteFeet said:
I've already been suggested a Kingston KC3000 SSD which would come out at around 400 american dollars, alternatively I've also been suggested a Samsung 970 EVO Plus to a much more affordable 78 dollars converted from my local prices.
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fucking bruh, i paid 130$ for my KC3000, also 970 EVO Plus is probably counterfeit because CHINKS and low price on the current "crisis".
also you are mentioning NVMe's, not SATA SSD's which are, well, slower but still faster than HDD's, if you are looking for them then go for a samsung 870 EVO, while nvme's it's more the need for dram or not depending on your build, if you need to write heavy shit on your M2 then dram is a must, also avoid chinkoid ones because they usually ship a shitty 256GB modded to look like 1TB and they are usually a coin toss so buy them knowing you might be burning money, kingspec and kingdian are reliable-ish, you can also pick 2230 nvme's too but you usually need to buy a heatsink in order to screw them in since most motherboards don't have support for that small size so there's that too.

also also AVOID ADATA NVME'S FOR FUCK'S SAKE, their fail rate is pretty high, their ram sticks are decent though, still preddit at least knows part of their shit with regards to both NVMe's and SSD's, fucking retards recommending ADATA... insanity.

okay, after seeing your specs i must recommend a shitty fenvi AXE3000, get rid of that D-Link DWA-125, it's ancient tech now and your mobo does haz at least one socket for it.
 
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GhastlyGhost said:
At this point, the only real consideration for an SSD is size. 256 GB is probably fine unless you were planning on playing the newest Call of Duty. 1TB would work better if you're planning on replacing your main drive and running several games off of it.
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It should be noted that, for longevity reasons, an SSD should not be filled above 70% of its total NAND capacity. For a "1 TB" SSD that would be 700 GiB. SSD controllers need their space for wear-levelling, and some SSDs use an SLC write cache that can be sized at even 300 GiB.

PetiteFeet said:
alternatively I've also been suggested a Samsung 970 EVO Plus to a much more affordable 78 dollars converted from my local prices.
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That would be a good choice, unless it's counterfeit.
 
Curry Teafag said:
That would be a good choice, unless it's counterfeit.
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I just realised why it was so low in price. It's not in stock, of course. Silly me.

Thank you, chaps. I'll do some more searching/researching. I really appreciate it.
 
PetiteFeet said:
I just realised why it was so low in price. It's not in stock, of course. Silly me.

Thank you, chaps. I'll do some more searching/researching. I really appreciate it.
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Judging from the story of your life you posted, your hard drive is already above 700 GiB of used space, so I would advise you to look for a 2 TB SSD instead.
 
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