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Jokes about murder, assualt, rape, and pedophilia are alright. But saying retarded is a big no-no.
We have come to the point of life where words do hurt more than sticks and stones apparently.
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I seriously have to wonder what Amazon told Viv she could or couldn't do aside from the disclosed 8-episode limit per season put upon her by Amazon. I don't own Amazon Prime, so the snippets of Season 1 I've watched (and the very little I've seen of Season 2) makes my head swirl in confusion at how badly she rushed through her plot points and underdeveloped key moments.
Season 1 should have laser focus on just the hotel residents with some fights from bottom-tier Overlord wannabes if we need a big battle for the climax of Season 1. Then Season 2 should have the Vees as the major villains of the season (and I don't mean just Vox, even if he's the stand-out among the Vees). Then Season 3 has Adam and his exterminator squad as the main villains. Then Season 4 brings in the big hitters of Heaven, the archangels like Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, etc.
Instead, we haphazardly go back and forth between the different antagonists in the army of Heaven and the Overlords of Hell across both seasons, and it results in the conflict of the series failing to expand in scope properly.
The army of Heaven shouldn't have been introduced straight away in Season 1. Heaven should been kept more of a ominous mystery in the background of the start of the show, so that by the time we see more of Heaven in the later seasons we can understand how imposing/intimidating Heaven actually is to the denizens of Hell. Seriously, from how Adam acted since Episode 1, I couldn't fathom how I'm supposed to be scared of Heaven, especially since Heaven viewed just as, if not more, monstrous as hell is becoming a damn cliche at this point.
Making Heaven actually a good place to be in seems to be becoming more and more illusive for modern fiction.
Season 1 should have laser focus on just the hotel residents with some fights from bottom-tier Overlord wannabes if we need a big battle for the climax of Season 1. Then Season 2 should have the Vees as the major villains of the season (and I don't mean just Vox, even if he's the stand-out among the Vees). Then Season 3 has Adam and his exterminator squad as the main villains. Then Season 4 brings in the big hitters of Heaven, the archangels like Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, etc.
Instead, we haphazardly go back and forth between the different antagonists in the army of Heaven and the Overlords of Hell across both seasons, and it results in the conflict of the series failing to expand in scope properly.
The army of Heaven shouldn't have been introduced straight away in Season 1. Heaven should been kept more of a ominous mystery in the background of the start of the show, so that by the time we see more of Heaven in the later seasons we can understand how imposing/intimidating Heaven actually is to the denizens of Hell. Seriously, from how Adam acted since Episode 1, I couldn't fathom how I'm supposed to be scared of Heaven, especially since Heaven viewed just as, if not more, monstrous as hell is becoming a damn cliche at this point.
Making Heaven actually a good place to be in seems to be becoming more and more illusive for modern fiction.
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Everyone has got to stop blaming Amazon for the initial 8 episodes. That was all A24. Production was all wrapped before they even found a distribution partner and that's why the initial premiere for the first season of Hazbin Hotel was delayed from the summer of '23 to January of the next year. Because Amazon didn't pick them up until September.I seriously have to wonder what Amazon told Viv she could or couldn't do aside from the disclosed 8-episode limit per season put upon her by Amazon. I don't own Amazon Prime, so the snippets of Season 1 I've watched (and the very little I've seen of Season 2) makes my head swirl in confusion at how badly she rushed through her plot points and underdeveloped key moments.
Season 1 should have laser focus on just the hotel residents with some fights from bottom-tier Overlord wannabes if we need a big battle for the climax of Season 1. Then Season 2 should have the Vees as the major villains of the season (and I don't mean just Vox, even if he's the stand-out among the Vees). Then Season 3 has Adam and his exterminator squad as the main villains. Then Season 4 brings in the big hitters of Heaven, the archangels like Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, etc.
Instead, we haphazardly go back and forth between the different antagonists in the army of Heaven and the Overlords of Hell across both seasons, and it results in the conflict of the series failing to expand in scope properly.
The army of Heaven shouldn't have been introduced straight away in Season 1. Heaven should been kept more of a ominous mystery in the background of the start of the show, so that by the time we see more of Heaven in the later seasons we can understand how imposing/intimidating Heaven actually is to the denizens of Hell. Seriously, from how Adam acted since Episode 1, I couldn't fathom how I'm supposed to be scared of Heaven, especially since Heaven viewed just as, if not more, monstrous as hell is becoming a damn cliche at this point.
Making Heaven actually a good place to be in seems to be becoming more and more illusive for modern fiction.
But I digress, we'll probably never fully know the behind-the-scenes of what went down. Maybe in 20 years when the show is over, people will start talking about what happened.
These people literally celebrate when people they politically disagree with get shot and murdered, bemoan when an assassin misses their target and will dehumanize anyone that leaves their mental reservation when they still agree with them 95% of the time. Bring up the fact that the people they’re referring to have likely murdered, raped or committed fraud or burglary, I don’t believe them when they say it’s empathy.
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If one character is supposedly the good guy but does bad things, most people are not going to like that. Bad guy doing bad things is kind of expected.
A good example of this is Stella vs Stolas. Yeah, Stella may be marginally worse that Stolas, but the reason why people are more upset about Stolas actions than Stella's because Stolas is supposed to be the better person that we as the audience are supposed to root for. Stella could bomb an entire orphanage at this point and it would be whatever because she is an one-dimensional villain that is evil. I'll still complain about whatever Stolas does because he is supposed to be the better parent who tries but fails to do so constantly.
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This is hearsay but I think the first season was meant to have 12 episodes, but since she shitcanned her initial VAs in favor of more expensive ones, A24 reduced the number of episodes to save budget.
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Well, something something broken clocks I guess. Shocking that it came from DaniDraws of all people (at least in the upper pic).
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Yet she participated in Octavia slander and drew her sexually on a body pillow.
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Funny story (true story), a tribe has said the poptart's LA mansion is on native land and basically told her to GTFO.
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These same people get upset when they hear the "it's just a kid's movie/show" excuse.
No one is saying you can't like your shitty media; they're just saying it's shit and are suggesting ways for it to not be as shit. Give your genre some respect for fuck's sake.
You know almost all land can be considered stolen so how about we just have everyone live wherever they want to without following the rules that were put in place.
I don't care that they made a rape joke. I care that they won't admit they made a rape joke.
Finally, someone realizing how traumatic that would be to see. I wish they would actually address that in the show, but they won't.
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Porn really is one of mankind's greatest mistakes.
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This apparently wasn't an issue when Iran deported 1.3 million afghans or when Kuwait stripped citizenship from 200,000 people.
Medrano, Eilish, and 99.5% of libtards think that the "stolen land" originally belonged to Mexico. Would they support a similar revanchist movement for Germany to take back territory lost to Poland?
For the first part, those are brown nations. You can’t possibly expect them to know what human rights are! Or its American propaganda and isn’t real. (How these people actually think about those things.)
Worse, they truly think that it belongs to natives, that they never had war, and were all one nation, and that if not for the white man this land, and the world would have utopia. You can’t use Germany because its white and western, so lost land is lost. For the natives that are living lives 1000 times better now than their screwed over ancestors, they have legitimate grievances.
Some of these people are not only true believers, but stupid as all hell.
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Do they also believe the Earth's flat?
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The way you can easily tell that they're full of shit is just ask the obvious question. If the writing was better, would you enjoy the show more, or less?
If the answer is more, than the argument that its supposed to be poorly written is prima facie retarded.
Also, they used abstract examples like "tragedies" instead of specific examples so they can't be argued. However, having characters make reasonable mistakes makes more compelling tragedy than a tragedy where nonsensical choices lead to tragedy. One is earned by the writer, and the other is someone looking for cheap pathos.
I used this example before when someone compared Star Wars: The Acolyte to a Coen Brothers' film, and how it comes across as a bunch of people just doing stupid shit that escalates, but the key difference, is that in a movie like Fargo, the character's stupid decisions are properly motivated by their personalities and circumstances.
If it would stick it to the people they hate in anyway, yes they would. I wish I was lying.
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The Room was a tragedy, but no one is going to say that movie was written good.