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Should be a wild four years.

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Sensitive Young Man said:
You have the mind of a child
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explain how the presidency effectively cant do so? The military listens to the president, not the Constitution and why would the military not go along with it. They neither have to rule, nor face a foreign war and I dont think they would mind cleaning up the government. Congress is permanently in the 20-30 range of support. It is clear the government is in crisis and Massie is the only one that has any solutions to it and is willing to be undemocratic about it. Again, Congress would be wholly unwilling to work with Massie from the start, so remove Congress and restructure the government with allies.
 
No-Eyed Square Guy said:
Bondi was famous among righties for going against all wiser advice and making the final decision to go forward with the false/impossible prosecution of George Zimmerman, thus inspiring the rise of Black Lives Matter and all its great works.

People forget (when they're told to).
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She was also super friendly with race hustler Ben Crump. That doesn't get brought up nearly enough.
 
Buttigieg2020 said:
Not without removing the filibuster.

60-51=9

They are 9 votes short in the senate.


This is also why almost nothing but reconciliation bills get passed anymore.
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Mayor Cody Travers said:
Popping in to ask if the enough votes have been received for the SAVE America Act. I hear there's enough. If true, that's great news and I'd like it passed ASAP.

I don't doubt, like the deportations, the effects will take time to actually, ah, take effect. But even getting it happening (and in the Act's case passed) in the first place is a wonderful first step and I like to imagine the future will only build on that in time.
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My understanding is the 50th vote was confirmed today. That with Vance as the tie breaker is enough once it is allowed to come to a vote.

Thune has threatened / signaled he is willing to remove the ability to allow a filibuster to simply be declared and force Democrats to stand and actually perform a filibuster. This puts a hard limit on how long they can stop the bill from being voted on, specifically the length of time every Democrat can stand and keep talking put together, so a month or so at best.

This change should be totally within his power / only need a majority vote. However any change to limit the filibuster is much more aggressive than anything we've seen him do so far, so who knows if he will actually follow through with the threat.
 
LiquidKid said:
I didn’t even know this was a thing, every car I’ve ever owned has never had the auto start-stop feature
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One of my exs had a JEEP that would immediately turn off as soon as you came to a stop and then the engine would start again as soon as you hit the gas. This was around 2015 and it was one of the weirdest experiences in my life because why the fuck would that even be a thing in the first place?
 
Sammich said:
He will never hold public office again, he's finished and so is ro.
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ok now this is just cope with throwing in Ro LMAO. Maybe Massie if Zion Don is successful, but Ro will never threaten Israel's bottom line as shown time after time. Ro is going to keep his seat 100%.
 
FlappyBat said:
My understanding is the 50th vote was confirmed today. That with Vance as the tie breaker is enough once it is allowed to come to a vote.

Thune has threatened / signaled he is willing to remove the ability to allow a filibuster to simply be declared and force Democrats to stand and actually perform a filibuster. This puts a hard limit on how long they can stop the bill from being voted on, specifically the length of time every Democrat can stand and keep talking put together, so a month or so at best.

This change should be totally within his power / only need a majority vote. However any change to limit the filibuster is much more aggressive than anything we've seen him do so far, so who knows if he will actually follow through with the threat.
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Did something change since Tuesday?
Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) said “there aren’t anywhere close to the votes” needed to change the Senate’s filibuster rule to allow Republican-sponsored legislation to reform voter registration requirements to pass the upper chamber with fewer than 60 votes.

Thune on Tuesday dismissed the idea that Republicans might lower the procedural threshold for advancing the House-passed SAVE Act, which would require people to show passports or birth certificates as proof of citizenship when registering to vote.
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Blewberry Nausea said:
Did something change since Tuesday?

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Collins supporting it means the Rino faction are fine with it and have gotten a promise of consideration. Notice also that SAVE is wildly popular. Even the Democrats core know getting id is easy. Niggers and women know it because they have to have it for liquor and cigs.

Also lots of states already require it. So it "doesnt matter" and its basically impossible to articulate a reason against it thats not "let non citizens vote". The Dems cant go mask off yet

Also forcing a talking fillibuster is great because the Dems have to make a huge fight over something 80 percent of america agrees with. Great optics. It also means Thune doesnt have to do anything else for a week straight. Also preferable to him. Schumer isnt personally opposed to it, because it helps his Dem faction too. (And helps him personally against AOC challenge). You can also tell the media is struggling to say why its bad. They cant say the quiet part out loud. And once again the Dems core of Women all have ID already.

Thune is likely backdoor talking to Schumer about if they have to force it, what could be offered to just let it go, and if he does force it how much token resistance will be offered.
 
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Crescent Fresh said:
I am in no way optimistic that this will actually happen, yet if voter ID leads to a red wave… what happens to the country? Like if it’s made very clear “oh yeah the fraud was EVERYWHERE, they weren’t even subtle about it.”
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If it turns out we're right and they were cheating to win and a red wave crashes into them, then it's already game over for them if Trump has gotten enough RINOs out of Congress. Everything but constitutional amendments would be on the table. It'd be total chud victory, Democrats would have to come back towards the center to steal away moderates or die as a party, win win. The only thing that could stop it is SCOTUS, everything else is at the direct mercy of the legislature and/or executive branches.

4 years isn't enough to deport them all, but 12 sure is, especially once the judiciary is brought back in line through impeachments of the most flagrant activist judges. If the census no longer counts slaves illegals for House seats and electoral college votes, expect the Democrat strongholds to lose even harder. This truly is do or die for them if we're right.
 
FlappyBat said:
This change should be totally within his power / only need a majority vote. However any change to limit the filibuster is much more aggressive than anything we've seen him do so far, so who knows if he will actually follow through with the threat.
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If Thune can't bring himself to do what multiple leaders before him did, he should quit and let someone actually useful do the job. Harry Reid opened this door in 2013, the Democrats can eat shit and cry about it.

Every filibuster should be forced into a standing filibuster, for both sides. "I declare I'm stubborn" is such a stupid cop-out for what is supposed to be an extreme move. If you want that kind of power, pay the price and take the publicity hit for being an obstructionist on TV. Otherwise STFU and get out.
 
StudMccool said:
Trump is defending Bondi
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What a moron.
Sensitive Young Man said:
Trump is going to force through Voter ID whether or not the SAVE act gets passed. Watch TESfags crap themselves over him “being a dictator”.
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There is no mechanism for him to do this, but yes, TESfags will shit and piss regardless
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Trump to put out an executive order mandating Voter ID shorty.
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this cannot be enforced at all. This nigga is Chris Chan posting.
Blewberry Nausea said:
Oh Massie you silly goose

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this dude should just leave
 
namelesstacotruck said:
Collins supporting it means the Rino faction are fine with it and have gotten a promise of consideration. Notice also that SAVE is wildly popular. Even the Democrats core know getting id is easy. Niggers and women know it because they have to have it for liquor and cigs.

Also lots of states already require it. So it "doesnt matter" and its basically impossible to articulate a reason against it thats not "let non citizens vote". The Dems cant go mask off yet

Also forcing a talking fillibuster is great because the Dems have to make a huge fight over something 80 percent of america agrees with. Great optics. It also means Thune doesnt have to do anything else for a week straight. Also preferable to him. Schumer isnt personally opposed to it, because it helps his Dem faction too. (And helps him personally against AOC challenge). You can also tell the media is struggling to say why its bad. They cant say the quiet part out loud. And once the Dems core of Women all have ID already.

Thune is likely backdoor talking to Schumer about if they have to force it, what could be offered to just let it go, and if he does force it how much token resistance will be offered.
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I guess we will see I haven’t paid much attention to be honest.
 
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