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The things conservatives want have a near perfect correlation with what "the zionist jew menace" wants according to /pol/.
i advise you stop listening to these types
because the vast majority have no actual solution to anything and just want to bitch
and when things get better, they want things to get worse because accelerationism will magically fix everything instead of just setting society back to zero
 
wtf I love democrats now?
No you don't. They think you're stupid and know midterms are coming up so the Midterm script got handed out where they encourage non-retarded policies. They bank on normies being tired of chaos and having the short term memory of a fucking housefly. Then, good little goycattle see the Democrats saying normal things and clap like seals for them "Finally coming back to normal" and vote them into power. Then those same midwit retards wonder why two weeks after elections end that the Southern Border is open again, the American flag has been replaced with the pride one, and wonder why China now controls every facet of our lives. They ran this same fucking script for the past decade. We literally saw this bullshit after Trump's first term and they learned from last time that yes, unfortunately the average person is that stupid.

So the next time you hear anyone in your passing day say "Yeah they seem to have learned to be normal", correct them, call them retarded, and tell them not to fall for the same bullshit again. Do not let midwits stay retarded.
 
Faggots under 40 have been saying this kind of generational edgy shit to faggots over 40 since the 1960's. Inshallah, nigga.
Let's examine three major things that have happened since the 1960's that may be contributing to this discussion grandpa.
1. Women in the workplace. Feminism forced women to work so they could be real people which drove down wages.
2. Manufacturing etc being shipped overseas
3. Importing shitskins to work for poverty wages, and granting amnesty to illegals.
Due to these factors wages haven't even come close to keeping up with inflation in decades lets not even mention that productivity has gone up but we are still working the same hours, or the fed.

Gee I wonder why younger people would complain that the cost of things are going up and wages are remaining stagnant. It's a real head scratcher.
 
do boomers who spend 10k dollarydoos on gibson guitars, harley davidsons, and vegas trips think a 5 dollar grocery store chicken is a oppulent luxury that should preclude one from owning a home?

They also think living in a trailer in the desert 90 minutes from where you work is a reasonable way to live.
 
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do boomers who spend 10k dollarydoos on gibson guitars, harley davidsons, and vegas trips think a 5 dollar grocery store chicken is a oppulent luxury that should preclude one from owning a home?

SWADDLED IN EXPENSIVE PARKAS and slinging luxury purses, a winding queue of patrons waits for the handsome bouncer to let them inside. It’s lunchtime on a freezing December day in Manhattan, and TikTok-pilled Gen Zers are patiently awaiting entry into a grocery store.
Tribeca’s Meadow Lane doesn’t deal in essentials. Shoppers are greeted by mood lighting, shiny pears and soft-beige shelves holding $15 glass bottles of oat milk, $15 chicken nuggets and $750 caviar.
“I love an expensive grocery store,” says Samantha Pearlstein, a 26-year-old sales engineer, as she browses $85 flower arrangements and $23 salads. “It’s an experience and it’s food, all together.” She tried to convince her boyfriend to tag along, but he declined, she says; the store’s concept was too “dystopian” for him.


Gen Zers and millennials are swimming in student debt and may never own homes, but they’re splurging on gut-healthy juices and rotisserie chickens. New York City as a whole is in the midst of an affordability crisis, one that helped elect Mayor Zohran Mamdani, yet a new crop of luxury prepared-food purveyors is drawing massive crowds in Manhattan and driving social-media discourse. Influencers fill aisles in search of trendy nut butters and overpriced salads. The stores are packed on weekends with teens who inhale frozen yogurt.
Business is booming. Can it last?
“I WANTED PEOPLE to feel like they just took a Xanax when they walk in,” Sammy Nussdorf says of the airy, polished Meadow Lane. His store, named after a luxe street in Southampton, opened in November, the conclusion of a two-year journey that he meticulously documented on TikTok. He taste-tested chicken salad recipes and jumped through hurdles for permits. He says he was inspired by farmers’ markets in Los Angeles and grab-and-go shops in the Hamptons—places that epitomized the current craze for all things healthy.
“Nightclubs in New York kind of died,” the 28-year-old New Yorker says. “The health and wellness sector is moving the needle.”
In downtown Manhattan, there’s Happier Grocery and Rigor Hill Market, both blocks away from Meadow Lane. Uptown is home to a bounty of longer-running spots including Butterfield Market, Agata & Valentina, Zabar’s and Ouri’s Market.
“I don’t think anybody competes with me,” says Eli Zabar, whose parents opened Zabar’s on the Upper West Side in the 1930s, when asked about the new arrivals. In 1973, Zabar struck out on his own, opening the E.A.T. food shop and cafe across town on the Upper East Side. He now has 12 markets and eateries throughout the city.


Nussdorf’s family owns Quality King Distributors, a major purveyor of wholesale household and beauty products founded in 1960. He says Meadow Lane is self-funded; after working in venture capital for five years, he “really wanted to feel more inspired” by his work. Nussdorf admits with a grin that haters aren’t wrong to call his store a “nepo baby passion project.”
The business’s operations have been profitable since week two, he says: “On average, over 1,000 tickets a day.”
Some visitors have critiqued his prices, but Nussdorf says they’re “right in line with every other grocery.”
“Is there a range from economy to first class, Toyota to Rolls-Royce? Yes,” he says. “Are people on food stamps coming to shop here? No.”
Shortly after Meadow Lane opened, customers posted online about undercooked chicken nuggets; another shopper, who was lactose intolerant, said that she’d bought chili topped with cheese that wasn’t on the list of ingredients.
“We made mistakes,” Nussdorf says. “All I could do was see what was happening, correct it as best as I knew how, which was profusely apologize, refund and credit their next shop here.”
Still, he worried no one would come back. “The next day,” he says, “the lines were longer.”
YOU CAN TRACE the roots of the new gourmet grocers back to Erewhon, which originally opened as a small health-food store in Boston in the 1960s. Around the same time, George Ohsawa’s book Zen Macrobiotics introduced to the West the concept of a macrobiotic diet, which hippies popularized. What began as a counterculture movement went mainstream, shaping an understanding of health and nutrition that still dominates American culture today.
Demand for whole, organic food propelled new businesses. Dean & DeLuca opened in New York’s SoHo neighborhood in 1977. Ina Garten bought the Hamptons specialty food store that became the Barefoot Contessa a year later. The first Whole Foods followed in Austin, Texas, in 1980.
Marion Nestle saw all of those shifts firsthand. “Every generation feels like all of a sudden food is becoming an enormously prominent issue like it never was before,” says the 89-year-old nutritionist and New York University professor emerita. “That happens over and over and over again. Whole Foods has always been called ‘Whole Paycheck.’ ”


Grocery stores have remarkably low profit margins, but the ones that can sell high volumes and minimize overhead tend to stick around. When Amazon acquired Whole Foods in 2017, it brought its deep pockets and vast delivery infrastructure to the business—though it still hasn’t increased its market share of the grocery industry to more than 4%. For smaller players, owning their real estate and means of production can be a boon. Dean & DeLuca closed its New York locations in 2019, facing steep debts, including unpaid rent.
Erewhon, meanwhile, is flourishing in Southern California, with 11 locations, celebrity fans and in-demand smoothies around $20. Last November, the company, privately owned by the Antoci family, opened its first East Coast “tonic bar” at Manhattan’s new private wellness club Kith Ivy.
New York’s new crop of gourmet markets borrows a bit from Erewhon’s DNA by targeting trendy Tiktokers, crunchy moms, MAHA-curious health fiends, Instacart devotees who pop in and pick up a few things to feel good. These stores are appealing to an “upscale, educated” population, says Nestle. “These are the healthiest people in the population.”
They also want shopping to feel like an experience. The family-owned Butterfield Market has been around since 1915. Lately it has been flooded with influencers and out-of-towners who come in “all dressed up to do a haul and taste-test everything,” says Alexa Matthews, the store’s marketing director. “It’s social currency.”
Happier Grocery, which opened in 2023 on Canal Street, where SoHo meets Tribeca, is a two-story bazaar with a beverage bar for smoothies, pastries and coffee; prepared foods; and a wide range of beauty and skin-care products.
“Everything is more expensive than one would realize,” says Wells Stellberger, Happier Grocery’s co-founder. “We want to be fair. We’re always battling and balancing.” He knows people may balk at $16 bottles of pumpkin milk. Even he sometimes finds the prices preposterous. “I’m like, ‘I can’t even imagine that costs that,’ but it does.”


AROUND THE CORNER from Meadow Lane, Rigor Hill Market is packed with professionals munching on $26 roasted cauliflower with farro-lentil salad and $23 short-rib lasagna. Lauren Reeves, a 32-year-old venture capitalist, grabs a $15 turkey and provolone sandwich.
“It’s expensive as hell to live in New York,” Reeves says. “But you figure out what you want to spend your money on. At the end of the day, I prioritize good food and good people.”
Ryan Sohn, Rigor Hill’s co-owner, opened the store in 2022 on the hunch that diners who eat at Michelin-star restaurants would also pay top dollar for takeaway. Sales have doubled since 2023, and the company is profitable. Sohn says the fast-casual concept is a much better model than running a restaurant, even if Rigor Hill has 41 employees and is open seven days a week. “Our general build-out costs and operating expenses are lower,” he says. Plus, the store is meeting a real consumer need.


“A lot of people come in for the rotisserie chicken and veggie sides, and that’s their dinner,” Sohn says. “People are busy; they don’t want to cook.”
That certainly seems to be true in the Hamptons, where the newly renovated Sagaponack General Store had visitors lining up this summer for $13 breakfast sandwiches and $65 tote bags.
Mindy Gray, the philanthropist and wife of Blackstone President and COO Jon Gray, bought the historic market in 2020—an act, she says, of cultural preservation. She sees it as a kind of “town square,” where shoppers can have “mini playdates.”
Some early reports on Sagaponack General Store bemoaned it as another unaffordable shopping destination. Gray says her prices are fair for the area and that everything she stocks is highly intentional. She says that the organic chicken she sells from La Belle Farms in Sullivan County, New York, “tastes like chicken, in a time when so much chicken doesn’t taste like chicken.”
She hasn’t heard customers complain about costs, she says.
 
Let's examine three major things that have happened since the 1960's that may be contributing to this discussion grandpa.
1. Women in the workplace. Feminism forced women to work so they could be real people which drove down wages.
2. Manufacturing etc being shipped overseas
3. Importing shitskins to work for poverty wages, and granting amnesty to illegals.
Due to these factors wages haven't even come close to keeping up with inflation in decades lets not even mention that productivity has gone up but we are still working the same hours, or the fed.

Gee I wonder why younger people would complain that the cost of things are going up and wages are remaining stagnant. It's a real head scratcher.
The point you seem to be missing in favor of throwing incorrect labels and excuses out is; that every generation pisses and moans and somehow it all seems to work out for them. I'm not saying you're in the wrong by bitching. I'm saying you're no different than every other faggot in the last 100 years who says they're living in unfair, unprecedented times with the deck stacked against them and they'll never survive unless revolution happens. Quit being a sensitive little bitch about it. You and your cohort aren't special.
 
goycattle
Q.E.D. people

No you don't. They think you're stupid and know midterms are coming up so the Midterm script got handed out where they encourage non-retarded policies.
100% this is what they're doing but it doesn't matter. A concession is a concession. People who hate immigration now see that it is an acceptable position to have. People who just go with what's popular now see it's a popular opinion. Other people who are trying to sell things or win elections have now seen this is how to do it. And people who were 100% convinced that having borders is pure evil and that Obama was pure good are at best going to feel lied to and at worst are going through an existential crisis right now.

The idea that politicians can just lie as part of a grand strategy then leave it at that ignores the ripple effects. This is how wokeism came to power to begin with: Conservatives bent the knee on one thing after the next in order to "win elections" but in doing so they agreed to more favorable win conditions for the left. Slowly but surely the tide of culture moved in that direction. They bent the knee on Iraq, flag burning, economics, obamacare, gay marriage, and eventually even started condemning cops. Even though it was just a strategy to win elections every time they did it they were ceding rhetorical ground that the left gobbled up, before you know it it's "racist" to not hate yourself for being white.

Obama and clinton saying this is functionally them saying "yeah so.... everything trump was saying in 2015 was right actually even though we called you a nazi for agreeing with him..." The headlines will not word it that way but people sure as shit will see it that way.
The second order inferences are:
-Oh so not everybody the MSM calls a nazi is actually a nazi?
-Oh so by their own logic the first black president is a nazi but you're also a nazi for disliking him?
-Maybe the real nazis were the friends we made along the way?

And while you're 100% correct that the democrats don't care about that poster, they do care about themselves, their families, their children (sort of), their assetts and their vacation homes. It's largely them wanting to win elections but it's also them actually realizing that immgirants aren't the perfect little angels they told us they were. latinos also pulled hard for trump btw, never underestimate how butthurt they're going to be about that for the next 500 years.

We literally saw this bullshit after Trump's first term and they learned from last time that yes, unfortunately the average person is that stupid.
The difference being that then they had the elctoral college cope, and trump didn't have nearly as much open support from opinion leaders, both in and outside the government. Also notnearly as many people had been radicalized by their first hand experience.
 
It's largely them wanting to win elections but it's also them realizing these people aren't the perfect little angels they told us they were. latinos also pulled hard for trump btw, never underestimate how butthurt they're going to be about that for the next 500 years.
seeing white women call a black ice agent a house nigger was hilarious
 
Stop paying that rent mortgage payment to the bank and see how long they allow to keep pretending to be a homeowner.
I paid 75k cash when I was 33. That was almost a decade ago. People call me cheap and boring, but I own my home, have tripled its value by putting in around 30k of work and improvements. I own 3 vehicles, a nice dirt bike, and a couple pieces of heavy equipment, and a couple trailers to haul my toys and tools.

Are you ever going to own a fucking bulldozer? No leases, no mortgages, no financing. Sure, my trucks and dozer are a bit older, but thy are well maintained and they are mine.

Quit being a slave to dopamine and frivolity, and learn some goddamned fiscal responsibility. No cap for real, my little zoomy nigga.
 
Ah, New Yorkers.
Still, my mind wanders to the question "did baby boomers exempt themselves from every upscale product or service in order to access a home?"
The generation that had unprecedented access to the economy and whose spending habits literally created entire industries
and markets don't have much moral capital to browbeat others with when it comes to frivoulous purchases.
 
do boomers who spend 10k dollarydoos on gibson guitars, harley davidsons, and vegas trips think a 5 dollar grocery store chicken is a oppulent luxury that should preclude one from owning a home?
That's something that always bothered me, its always been a thing but the younger generations spends on their money on X so they deserve to be poor its getting ridiculous, previous generations luxury spenditure were their dream cars, hitting the bars, trips and guitars and whatever. Now its drinking coke and buying rotisserie chicken. I blame the press, and the boomers who believe it to an extent.
 
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