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The Great One said:
I have a question about her cat, why does it look like its dead? It looks so abhorrent, and I feel sorry for its living.
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Lesbian Grandma said:
Given that it's completely shaven I have to assume it's elderly, long haired cats have a hard time keeping themselves clean once they get old and shaving the cat down is easier than having to brush it out daily
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Yeah, Viv has had Pixel for over 10 years. You can add "crazy cat lady" to the list of walking Tumblr cliches this woman is.
 
The Nothingness said:
Vivienne has blonde hair, a cat, and supposed daddy issues.

Charlie has blonde hair, a cat, and supposed daddy issues.

Gee, I wonder why the character is seen as a self-insert.
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Didn’t Viv already admit that Charlie was based on her? that’s why everyone calling Charlie a moron in season 2 touched a nerve. Granted some could take the tweet as a joke, but I suspect she’s telling the truth about that at least.
 
Lesbian Grandma said:
Given that it's completely shaven I have to assume it's elderly, long haired cats have a hard time keeping themselves clean once they get old and shaving the cat down is easier than having to brush it out daily
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The Nothingness said:
Vivienne has blonde hair, a cat, and supposed daddy issues.

Charlie has blonde hair, a cat, and supposed daddy issues.

Gee, I wonder why the character is seen as a self-insert.
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Vivienne seems like the type of person who's is going to taxidermise that cat. I mean it already looks the part, may as well go all in on it.
 
It’s so cringe seeing non whites bleach or wear blonde wigs. It screams I wish I were blonde. Girl just go back to your natural hair color. I think her mom is a natural blonde.

Anyways people don’t understand that most blondes have blue eyes and* when they have brown eyes it’s usually very bright. Not the almost black eyes you see on beaners and black women.
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Gimme the skinny said:
It’s so cringe seeing non whites bleach or wear blonde wigs. It screams I wish I were blonde. Girl just go back to your natural hair color. I think her mom is a natural blonde.

Anyways people don’t understand that most blondes have blue eyes and* when they have brown eyes it’s usually very bright. Not the almost black eyes you see on beaners and black women.
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It's more like Viv wishes she was a thin rich white girl. You should check your privilege Vivienne.
 
I think grow thicker skin is absolutely vital advice for creators, or any job where at, bare minimum, you frequently have to work with an editor. Being a creator means people are going to be critical of your work. I'm not even talking just about fans, before your work ever hits public eyes, it's going to scrutinized and flaws/issues are going to be pointed out. Sometimes these aren't even entirely negative, it might be something like "This was really interesting, can we expand on this more," style comments. Hell, I think this is good advice even if you aren't creating content for entertainment. If you're too thin-skinned, you're going to be buried under criticism and, even worse, start holding a grudge and becoming spiteful to the people who are editing you. It's why a lot of "big" creators sometimes have works that just flop and don't match their previous quality. They become so prominent they're either able to basically do their own solo projects with no oversight, or everyone just pushes through whatever they say because of the previous success. Hearing about what you do poorly is just as important as hearing what you do successfully.
 
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It's because Adam is an established character outside of Hazbin. And people a lot of times like to expand on flat characters to give them an explaination on why they do the things they do.

I think Sera could be an interesting character, but like a lot of the other female characters, she is very underdeveloped and an unintentional moron for half of her screentime. This is why more people are frustrated by her than engaged.
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And the British black woman is making roofies. The Vees are all terrible people but the show puts a quirky glaze over them to be appealing to the audience. And the abuse scenes with the men are being done by people who get off on that shit because they're obsessed with toxic yaoi and think "good drama" is from terribly translated shitty doujins.
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Valentino gets a sappy solo in the last song of episode 7 in how he misses Vox's love for him. He also is the one to ultimately defeat Vox because know one else thought of ripping the tv man's head off. He also helps destroy the angelic laser. And is the new "boss" of Voxtek.

Meanwhile, Stella (who is I assume supposed to be one of the major antagonists of HB) gets nothing. There's no humanistic angle going on for her. Neither does she do anything that hinders the protagonists. Her biggest thing was back in season 1 when she called a hitman on her husband...which led to nothing. And accidentally letting Andrealphus know that Stolas was giving the grimoire to Blitzø because she's too stupid to have used that knowledge beforehand. All she can do is yell and laugh maniacally.
 
FK009 said:
Didn’t Viv already admit that Charlie was based on her? that’s why everyone calling Charlie a moron in season 2 touched a nerve. Granted some could take the tweet as a joke, but I suspect she’s telling the truth about that at least.
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Compare self insertified charlie hazbin or any other shitty self insertified/self insert character of the last decade to J Jonah Jameson who's literally designed as a self insert/parodic caricature of stan lee. The writing quality will never top Jameson. By the way Parker he wants pictures of that fucking menace Spider-Man.

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God I fucking miss when angel dust was just the funny gay for pay joe pesci spider and not "guy the creator projects her gay rapist victim fetish onto while simultaneously sexualizing him in a way that's like 2 steps away from just trooning him out"
 
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The Lawgiver said:
God I fucking miss when angel dust was just the funny gay for pay joe pesci spider and not "guy the creator projects her gay rapist victim fetish onto while simultaneously sexualizing him in a way that's like 2 steps away from just trooning him out"
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Hazbin Hotel probably had the most misleading pilot of all time. It went from a raunchy adult comedy to one woman's degenerate sexual fantasies in animated form, paid for by Amazon.
 
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