Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

Ferryman said:
The Bazaar only works when you have a strong sultan to remove subversive parasites as they crop up.
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Which, to add to this, is no longer a valid option as the sultan now has to face excommunication at best and persecution and attack from the Cult of Estrogen at worst the second that they dare infringe on their sensibilities. Bazaar methodology is simply unsustainable at the current moment as institutions overtly back the most left-wing cause regardless of quality. The only exception to this may be situations where you host your own infrastructure, but given the tragedy of Kiwifarm's deplatforming, even that's an issue (At least until someone fixes that, which is a project I am planning to take a stab at the second I have some more free time).
 
LarpBait said:
The only exception to this may be situations where you host your own infrastructure, but given the tragedy of Kiwifarm's deplatforming, even that's an issue
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If people are just wanting to make software while having right wing beliefs, realistically they won't end up like the site did. It will be harder for them than it otherwise would be. The kind of deplatforming that happened would be kind of hard to elicit by being an open source dev. I just don't think you are going to get the kind of hatred from the trannies you would need for them to do that, unless you are really going out of your way to do it, and at that point your purpose isn't quite being a developer anymore it's being a troll or some kind of activist (kind of like the tranny activists that fucked everything up). Even then I would be surprised if you got the full on kiwifarms treatment.
 
GhastlyGhost said:
Vaxry.
Which isn't the whole story, nor the entire consequence, but getting banned from freedesktop is kind of a big deal when you're developing a Wayland DE.
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I think you don't understand what I was saying. Vaxry is an example of this.

It will be harder for them than it otherwise would be.
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It shouldn't have happened to him, and I could say a lot about it. But that isn't close to being treated like the site did.

His site didn't get delisted from google at any point, he didn't have cloudflare revoke protection for bullshit reasons. He didn't get debanked, the list could go on and on. The point is there is another level to this stuff that I haven't seen touch the open source devs that have views that are outside what is "acceptable".

For vaxry people like brodie roberston were still able to be somewhat associated with them, while not getting any kind of backlash.

It's not the same. That doesn't mean I'm saying the trannies don't do anything to people they don't like in open source, but they don't do to anywhere near the same level as the site got. I was saying that because the post I was replying to implied that would happen to devs that aren't fags. Where I just haven't seen anything to suggest they would bother going that far. Because they really would have no reason to. Once you are kicked out of the main open source projects, you're basically dead to them, so why would they?
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
I think you don't understand what I was saying. Vaxry is an example of this.



It shouldn't have happened to him, and I could say a lot about it. But that isn't close to being treated like the site did.

His site didn't get delisted from google at any point, he didn't have cloudflare revoke protection for bullshit reasons. He didn't get debanked, the list could go on and on. The point is there is another level to this stuff that I haven't seen touch the open source devs that have views that are outside what is "acceptable".

For vaxry people like brodie roberston were still able to be somewhat associated with them, while not getting any kind of backlash.

It's not the same. That doesn't mean I'm saying the trannies don't do anything to people they don't like in open source, but they don't do to anywhere near the same level as the site got. I was saying that because the post I was replying to implied that would happen to devs that aren't fags. Where I just haven't seen anything to suggest they would bother going that far. Because they really would have no reason to. Once you are kicked out of the main open source projects, you're basically dead to them, so why would they?
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Because its a difference of impact for them. KiwiFarms is the go-to place for discussing troon loonacy without fear of reprisal, and the inability to do anything about it is what drives them up the wall. Meanwhile, when it comes to Open Source projects, trannies want to consolidate power. They aren't going out and trying to deplatform or hunt down chud devs a la the Artix people, DHH or Vaxry because it goes against their intended goal of corrupting an already existent project. That'd effectively mean trannies infecting the KF mod team and ousting Null, which can't happen because of the BDFL effect. Thankfully by virtue of being by far the best Wayland compositor in existence right now, Hyprland has managed to survive the troonery, as has the KiwiFarms thanks to it offering a service that can't be found elsewhere. That's kind of what it boils down to: if a project is well put together and offers something that is difficult to replicate or can't be found elsewhere, no amount of deplatforming can cull it.

prollyanotherlurker said:
brodie roberston
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I hate this fucking faggot like you wouldn't believe. "Man" is the archetypal soy dev, or even worse, soy dev journo. I do not know a single OSS news channel as egregiously annoying as him, though I will admit I am not one to look for that.
 
I wonder why...

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By the way, I forgot to post it here but at around the same time Pacman got it so did Flatpak, except Flatpaks implementation looks to be more than a simple ageDate range and is a complete PEGI style rating, it's named "Parental Control's" thus I assume they are going to make an entire system for this.
"This change is somewhat influenced by the new California law to make public API available but it's something we want to be pushing for anyway to allow applications to perform relevant filtering."
https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
 
Frightened Rabbit said:
By the way, I forgot to post it here but at around the same time Pacman got it so did Flatpak, except Flatpaks implementation looks to be more than a simple ageDate range and is a complete PEGI style rating, it's named "Parental Control's" thus I assume they are going to make an entire system for this.
"This change is somewhat influenced by the new California law to make public API available but it's something we want to be pushing for anyway to allow applications to perform relevant filtering."
https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
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Fagpack proving yet again that it sucks nigger balls. Might as well just become Snap 2.0 at this point.
 
Ferryman said:
Fagpack proving yet again that it sucks nigger balls. Might as well just become Snap 2.0 at this point.
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As soon as flatpak became the thing that distros like RHE/fedora adopted people should have known.

I've never liked the idea of a universal package manager for linux, I know linus has made his critique known about different distros handling packages differently. I personally would much rather distros have their own separation.
 
Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
Thread tourist but why can't the "evil chud nazis" just make their own software without the trannies?
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it isnt so much they need the trannies but more so when a chud or set of chuds attempt to make a good piece of software trannies will come in and colonize it. If you dont understand treat the open source repo as like a man or women only bar, they will do everything in their power to get into the bar and plant the proverbial flag.
 
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General Zoider said:
it isnt so much they need the trannies but more so when a chud or set of chuds attempt to make a good piece of software trannies will come in and colonize it. If you dont understand treat the open source repo as like a man or women only bar, they will do everything in their power to get into the bar and plant the proverbial flag.
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This plays into their insidious tactics: you'll be told over and over that you're "running a Nazi bar" if you don't suck off troons at every available opportunity. Using the beatstick of Nazi bar theory to browbeat contributors, they effectively enact the very theory they use as a bludgeon.

It's tranny bar theory, if you will: tolerate one troon in your project, and they'll bring their friends, browbeating you into submission and expanding their numbers and power until your project is hopelessly ruined.

Really, we all know this and I'm beating a dead horse here, but it's worth remembering Rules for Radicals, which is still very poignant.

(((Saul Alinsky))) said:
The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.
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(((Saul Alinsky))) said:
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
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Coolio55 said:
It's now incredibly easy to keep troons away: Just prominently mention AI somewhere and they'll refuse to go near it.
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"Oh great monkeys paw, how I wish I could keep out trannies from my project"

"🚀 HELLO MY GOOD SAARS I HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFULLEST MERGE REQUEST FROM THE CLAUDE SAAR. FIXING MANY THINGS SAAR. SQUASHES THOSE BLOODY BENCHODE BASTARD BUG LIKE PAKI SAAR."
 
Coolio55 said:
It's now incredibly easy to keep troons away: Just prominently mention AI somewhere and they'll refuse to go near it.
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The new gigachad programmer meta: configure your git Author line to be Claude Opus 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com> and remap your right-ctrl key to the spaceship emoji, while still writing 100% human code.
 
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