Fallout series

LovisXVI said:
There are also some mean noobtraps early on, which was the norm at the time, but tagging Energy Weapons and thinking that means you can get them early on, or even mid game is a kick in the dick when you realize that energy weapons are almost exclusively late game and expensive as hell even then.
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This is for sure one of my biggest issues with the classic titles, I'm not even opposed to EW and BG being late game but not having the player start out with a crappy big gun or crappy energy pistol really hurts. At the very least make them purchasable in the Hub and Reno, maybe even Redding. Just feels like such a wasted opportunity, especially when by the time you do end up buying EW and BG you have enough money to skip the weapon progression straight to stuff like Pulse Rifles and Vindicators.
 
The handsome tard said:
I did personally like about their lore with the Pitt as honestly gave more flesh to the lore bones of the East Coast and it was also a reminder on how absolutely OP the BOS is when it comes to most of what the Wasteland has to throw at them, to the point they only "lost" a single member and that member went on to become the Pitt's king and, lets be fucking honest here, the closest thing to someone trying to make something out of the place. And they would also bring along a few lost kids with no future along with them, reminding that even classic BOS isnt without a heart.
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One thing I'd like to add is that Lyons himself was the one who ordered the Pitt Scourged and everything of value taken back home when he was sent on a recon mission to the place not long after the BoS arrived in D.C. Events of that magnitude can easily change a man. Not hard to imagine he had a similar revelation as Ashur did, that maybe, just maybe, the BoS should solve problems instead of just shooting them. It would also explain why he was so fond of Project Purity, all those people at the Pitt turned into mindless, horrific beasts either in body or mind from contaminated water.
The handsome tard said:
Eh, I doubt we'd see any sort of scenario where the legion turns on Lanius, even if he exposed as a fraud. True or false, the Legion "bought it" into his fame and they bought it hard so it is extremely unlikely they'll change, at least to the point of turning on him. They were at war and it wasnt the time to just question everything.
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One of the Speech checks is a bluff that some of his subordinates have allied with the NCR and the whole battle was merely a trap intended to get the courier within striking distance. As to it being war and not the time to question everything... Roman politics were a mess (and I doubt Legion ones are much better considering Caesar encourages turnover in the ranks to the point he's surprised nobody has tried to remove Lucius as head praetorian), and the notion some disgruntled soldiers might get some ideas from how Vulpes works to arrange his removal isn't exactly far-fetched. If Caesar is dead Vulpes even mentions to the Courier during dialogue that Lanius will have little use for his services, and we all know how Lanius treats things he has no use for, and I'm sure Vulpes does as well, and I'm sure Lanius knows that Vulpes knows that. Someone is ordering a preemptive shanking simply because they're worried the other one will order one first.
 
Snekposter said:
One thing I'd like to add is that Lyons himself was the one who ordered the Pitt Scourged and everything of value taken back home when he was sent on a recon mission to the place not long after the BoS arrived in D.C. Events of that magnitude can easily change a man. Not hard to imagine he had a similar revelation as Ashur did, that maybe, just maybe, the BoS should solve problems instead of just shooting them. It would also explain why he was so fond of Project Purity, all those people at the Pitt turned into mindless, horrific beasts either in body or mind from contaminated water.
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Crazy how much better the bos gets written by Bethesda whenever its outside the main game.
 
Campbell_Trio said:
Crazy how much better the bos gets written by Bethesda whenever its outside the main game.
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Actually, that is from the main game. Everyone has just overlooked it since it comes from just two NPC's nobody bothers to talk to much, if at all: Casdin and one of the Lyons' Pride members, Kodiak.
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Kodiak is one of the unmutated kids Lyons brought back with him, FYI, and makes no appearances in either The Pitt or Broken Steel, IIRC.
 
Snekposter said:
Actually, that is from the main game. Everyone has just overlooked it since it comes from just two NPC's nobody bothers to talk to much, if at all: Casdin and one of the Lyons' Pride members, Kodiak.
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Kodiak is one of the unmutated kids Lyons brought back with him, FYI, and makes no appearances in either The Pitt or Broken Steel, IIRC.
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At least is consistent.
Look at FO4 in that manner, lmao.
 
Fishnumm said:
fo3 kicks ass i dont care what you guys say!
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I don't hate fo3 honestly, it had issues, mainly with the writing department and the DLCs I played (never touched far harbor, sorry), but I quite the exploration in that game.
It has much different vibes compared to the old Fallout games + New Vegas: it feels claustrophobic but in a good way, its the kind of wasteland Lonesome Road actually tries to re-create but fails at due to being too linear.
If I were to point out what could have been fixed, it would have been mainly the story and temporal setting: I would have set the game before the first Fallout or at around the same time: make so that the vault opens because its time to re-populate according to the computers, but the overseer refusing to for one reason or another, make one or two settlements being yet another vault that just opened and/or, BoS related, change FEV supermutant with something else like a superbreed born out of 200 years of radiations and replace the Enclave with an equally nationalist group that doesn't shares the same goals/ideals but a more purist take.
I think stating "there are Fo3 features that I wish were transferred to NV" says all about both.
You will not make me praise Mothership Zeta or Operation Anchorage though,
 
Fishnumm said:
its cool that it takes place in massachusetts though its funny killing super mutants in boston
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The funniest super mutant moment in 4 for me was the one who escaped the institute or some shit and turned himself into a super mutant somehow. When you give him the serum he seemingly scribbled out in a cave in the middle of the most radioactive part of the map, he's like "ok bro give me a few days" and you come back and he's literally just perfectly back to normal just as he was before mutation. Such goofy writing for a character that is pretty much a direct part of the main story.
 
Fishnumm said:
it'd be a better game if it wasnt a fallout game honestly
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That's something I heard way too often:
"Its a good game, but a bad Fallout game"
So much so that I had it typed and immediately deleted.
Here's another thing I was about to type but then deleted, since it's echoed just as much:
"While shithesda tried to turn its RPGs into action games with minimal RPG mechanics, ubislop increasingly added RPG mechanics to its action games, this did nothing but fuck them both equally and while fallout 4 isn't exactly at the level of ubislop's tasteless trash, its still in that limbo between action-rpg and action game that just isn't that much enjoyable"
If fallout 4 was truly a good game, people wouldn't be trying to make stipulations and just praise it as such.
 
Buster Scruggs said:
The funniest super mutant moment in 4 for me was the one who escaped the institute or some shit and turned himself into a super mutant somehow. When you give him the serum he seemingly scribbled out in a cave in the middle of the most radioactive part of the map, he's like "ok bro give me a few days" and you come back and he's literally just perfectly back to normal just as he was before mutation. Such goofy writing for a character that is pretty much a direct part of the main story.
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…which only becomes stranger when, how tf is he supposed to cross the glowing sea... now that he's no longer immune to radiation?
 
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