One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

[Incecticyder]

There's so many stories you can tell from wars alone and we have plenty already. It's a time where human ingenuity is at its peak just so we can kill each other (of course it's more complicated than that) so we have a lot of stories from individual experiences being on the battlefield and the civilians caught in the worst case scenarios but lived to tell their tale.

One thing about these types that you see a lot on the writer/creator teams is that they themselves are usually mundane. They use their opportunities to take the piss out of something creative due to not being able to relate to it.

They cannot imagine amazing events and people and thus they consider those unrealistic purely because they themselves are boring.

 

[Snake of Diamond]

They cannot imagine amazing events and people and thus they consider those unrealistic purely because they themselves are boring.

Because they can't experience something someone else can. These are selfish people who have to view art the way they can only see it which in and of itself isn't a problem. For One Piece, you can usually tell these types of people by how they have extremely basic views on things that actually have nuance merely because they can only think in basic ways. Something we've seen a lot is the rise of "headcanon" when people legit can't understand why something is objectively the way it is by the creator so in combination with general boring and selfishness they fit how they want to perceive what you're doing.

 

[Incecticyder]

Because they can't experience something someone else can. These are selfish people who have to view art the way they can only see it which in and of itself isn't a problem. For One Piece, you can usually tell these types of people by how they have extremely basic views on things that actually have nuance merely because they can only think in basic ways. Something we've seen a lot is the rise of "headcanon" when people legit can't understand why something is objectively the way it is by the creator so in combination with general boring and selfishness they fit how they want to perceive what you're doing.

The problem is that these boring people think they are the interesting ones. They also think they are the majority. All that makes them obnoxious.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

This gets overshadowed by Imu's face/second form reveal but glad to see that York got what she deserved for starting one of the most despicable backstabbing schemes I saw in the ENTIRE manga.

Orochi, Charlos, Nezumi and co. are still legitimately awful as far as scum goes but IMO York is the absolute worst, surprised that she gets overlooked a lot on those "worst scum in One Piece" lists.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

This gets overshadowed by Imu's face/second form reveal but glad to see that York got what she deserved for starting one of the most despicable backstabbing schemes I saw in the ENTIRE manga.

Orochi, Charlos, Nezumi and co. are still legitimately awful as far as scum goes but IMO York is the absolute worst, surprised that she gets overlooked a lot on those "worst scum in One Piece" lists.

This is factually true

HOWEVER

She is the pure greed part of Vegapunks greed given a body. It is unsurprising that she would sell out for a Celestial Dragon lifestyle.

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

This is factually true

HOWEVER

She is the pure greed part of Vegapunks greed given a body. It is unsurprising that she would sell out for a Celestial Dragon lifestyle.

I think that being the manifestation of Vegapunk's Greed doesn't really change anything here because Lilith is called the "Evil" of Vegapunk but it's very clear that she is anything but evil (unless there is an unexpected development that happens much later on but this is borderline impossible since Oda is usually very clear about writing hidden traitors, pre-Arlong Nami and York don't do anything before going traitor mode and Kanjuro is very suspect even before Wano).

Vegapunk Satellites likely still have moral agency and technically you can have an evil Shaka who sells all of Egghead to being blown up like Ohara because "Good" is subjective and someone like Akainu can be called "Good" in a certain point of view. Chances are York is just a scumbag that chose to sell everyone out for the sake of.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

This gets overshadowed by Imu's face/second form reveal but glad to see that York got what she deserved for starting one of the most despicable backstabbing schemes I saw in the ENTIRE manga.

Orochi, Charlos, Nezumi and co. are still legitimately awful as far as scum goes but IMO York is the absolute worst, surprised that she gets overlooked a lot on those "worst scum in One Piece" lists.

i just think its funny they got stuck with the most useless one. like york could easily solve the food crisis for the celestial dragons and remake that food machine they had on egghead but because shes now cut off from the other vegapunks shes just greed and nothing else.

Vegapunk Satellites likely still have moral agency and technically you can have an evil Shaka who sells all of Egghead to being blown up like Ohara because "Good" is subjective and someone like Akainu can be called "Good" in a certain point of view. Chances are York is just a scumbag that chose to sell everyone out for the sake of.

i could be wrong but i think the satellites are just extensions of vegapunk himself as well as a way for him to multitask. so even though you have someone like lilith who is supposed to be evil or shaka who is supposed to be good no satellite is going to be worse than what vegapunk himself would have been. as we saw with kuma vegapunk felt bad for kuma but also had great interest in his blood as well as making kuma into a pacifista.

they dont really switch or anything like that because they are all just machines that allow for the personification of a set aspect from vegapunks brain. lilith is still evil but not in a "destroy everyone and betray people" way.

shes more so just the personification of vegapunks interest in creating weapons which he views as evil due to how destructive those weapons can be. same as how york is everything vegapunk himself views as greedy. which is why she was mainly around to just eat and sleep and also why she ended up being the one to betray the others.

 

[Snake of Diamond]

The problem is that these boring people think they are the interesting ones. They also think they are the majority. All that makes them obnoxious.

They're the loudest and by nature the loudest thing catches the most attention simply because it disrupts the general area. They utilized this to their advantage where if they yell loud enough then they will be listened to and sadly to an extent it has been working until people started trying to ignore them which they should have done from the start.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I think that being the manifestation of Vegapunk's Greed doesn't really change anything here because Lilith is called the "Evil" of Vegapunk but it's very clear that she is anything but evil (unless there is an unexpected development that happens much later on but this is borderline impossible since Oda is usually very clear about writing hidden traitors, pre-Arlong Nami and York don't do anything before going traitor mode and Kanjuro is very suspect even before Wano).

Vegapunk Satellites likely still have moral agency and technically you can have an evil Shaka who sells all of Egghead to being blown up like Ohara because "Good" is subjective and someone like Akainu can be called "Good" in a certain point of view. Chances are York is just a scumbag that chose to sell everyone out for the sake of.

Lilith is "Not very evil" because Vegapunk himself isn't particularly evil in any way.

However Vegapunk does have a greedy streak, its for a good cause that he wants lots of resources and money but he does have desires.

 

[Random Internet Person]

could be wrong but i think the satellites are just extensions of vegapunk himself as well as a way for him to multitask

That’s how I remember it being explained. Kind of like Doctor Octopus having his metal arms to let him do more work on his experiments.

 

[Incecticyder]

i just think its funny they got stuck with the most useless one. like york could easily solve the food crisis for the celestial dragons and remake that food machine they had on egghead but because shes now cut off from the other vegapunks shes just greed and nothing else.

York is about as intelligent as any Vegapunk but she is greedy and undisciplined.

They're the loudest and by nature the loudest thing catches the most attention simply because it disrupts the general area. They utilized this to their advantage where if they yell loud enough then they will be listened to and sadly to an extent it has been working until people started trying to ignore them which they should have done from the start.

Ignoring too much is how they gain foothold without you noticing.

 

[Snake of Diamond]

York is about as intelligent as any Vegapunk but she is greedy and undisciplined.

Always thought she was characterized as the sin of greed as in she's a literal personification of Vegapunk's Greed.

Ignoring too much is how they gain foothold without you noticing.

It's also why it feels you get punished for being a "noticer". People doing malicious stuff always paint those that see them as the problem and try to shame them for it.

 

[Incecticyder]

Always thought she was characterized as the sin of greed as in she's a literal personification of Vegapunk's Greed.

It is a bit vague.

It's also why it feels you get punished for being a "noticer". People doing malicious stuff always paint those that see them as the problem and try to shame them for it.

Exactly. We should still be noticing though.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Admittedly the actual set looked like it might as well have come from the manga or anime but nah, fuck that.

I think it's because netflix and hollywood in general seem apt to astroturf live action one peice to replace normal one piece int he public conciousness for some reason. There was the weird blatant astroturfing right before season 2 with "influencers" and mr. beast suddenly being into one piece out of nowhere and other really odd things that were already covered but with that and most of the merch beingmade and approved for global release being tied solely to netflix one piece is really, REALLY odd and smelly for lack of a better way of putting things. Netflix one piece is indeed something peopel liek compared to most live action versions but like I don't think it's somethign that overshadows the OG in any way.

What's funny is despite this the designated "netflix one piece" spot in the local targets and walmarts by me still has the manga/anime one piece stuff in little parts of it and those seem to be the main thing that actually sells.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

You'd think Lego would go out and make something more akin to the manga/anime.

I think the advantage of doing it with the live action is that Oda's negotiations are much simpler. They can do it by season of that show rather than having to look back over decades of One Piece content and work out what they do and don't get.

In addition by limiting it to Netflix version should Oda later decide he wants to negotiate for anime accurate versions Lego and he get to double dib on the sales in some cases.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

This gets overshadowed by Imu's face/second form reveal but glad to see that York got what she deserved for starting one of the most despicable backstabbing schemes I saw in the ENTIRE manga.

She will truly get what she deserves when (not if) Garling drives his sword into her once the Mother Flame is perfected.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

She will truly get what she deserves when (not if) Garling drives his sword into her once the Mother Flame is perfected.

I'm reasonably certain that's in Trombonista's One Piece porn stash.

 

[Incecticyder]

I think it's because netflix and hollywood in general seem apt to astroturf live action one peice to replace normal one piece int he public conciousness for some reason. There was the weird blatant astroturfing right before season 2 with "influencers" and mr. beast suddenly being into one piece out of nowhere and other really odd things that were already covered but with that and most of the merch beingmade and approved for global release being tied solely to netflix one piece is really, REALLY odd and smelly for lack of a better way of putting things. Netflix one piece is indeed something peopel liek compared to most live action versions but like I don't think it's somethign that overshadows the OG in any way.

What's funny is despite this the designated "netflix one piece" spot in the local targets and walmarts by me still has the manga/anime one piece stuff in little parts of it and those seem to be the main thing that actually sells.

As someone who liked the Live Action, this is stupid. It is not better as an overall product. Netflix does this all the time. I think that no one buys it.

She will truly get what she deserves when (not if) Garling drives his sword into her once the Mother Flame is perfected.

Won't happen. Garling might be more "business" than the lazy Saturn but he does see the value of a genius that is unburdened by morals and is satisfied with bread and circuses. York does not have Stella's desire to help Nika and she is just as smart as the rest of her satellites. Keeping the original was risky, especially without proper supervision, but York is on board. As long as her desires are met, she will produce the stuff Vegapunk used to make. I am sure that Garling will just keep a close eye on her instead.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Always thought she was characterized as the sin of greed as in she's a literal personification of Vegapunk's Greed.

she is and vegapunk just so happens to be a very very very greedy person thanks to his endless desire for knowledge. the thing with york seems to be that while she is vegapunks greed she also seems to be all the things vegapunk feels get in the way of his desire for more knowledge. which is why her task on egghead was doing all the eating and sleeping for the other satellites.

york also seems to want the power and control that comes with being a celestial dragon as well so im guessing york also represents the part of vegapunk that wants to use his knowledge to make himself some form of god.