What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

Example #2 (or three) below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jamelske
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Underground slavery? Police being COMPLICIT? This nigga's taking crazy pills, that can't be true. Let's check out the rest of his victims to see how his claim is debunked. (It says citation needed but the claim is corroborated here: https://allthatsinteresting.com/john-jamelske)
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That's fucked up. Well, it does say citation needed, so we can ignore it, right? right??
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https://web.archive.org/web/20260413002226/https://nypost.com/2003/04/30/slave-blasts-police/ Huh. That sounds very suspicious, almost evil of them... Hopefully the cops at least helped her family...
https://web.archive.org/web/20030514095348/https://www.syracuse.com/news/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/news-1/105186453942772.xml
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They accused her BOYFRIEND of KILLING HER! And didn't listen to the woman even after they found out she was ALIVE, and actually was kidnapped! What the fuck is going on? There's no way they could have fucked this up worse than that! At least their investigation was thorough...
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For those of you who don't know that much about cars of that era, the styling usually changed almost yearly but starting in 1974, the year Jamelske's shitbox was made, 5 mph bumpers precluded major yearly changing of how the cars looked. So a 1974 really would look the same as a 1975, and that should be common sense to nearly anyone, and that sense would apply to nearly every car produced in that era, which people would be familiar with as in 2003 a car from 1974 being used would be akin to a car from 1997 being used in 2026. These are either unheard of levels of incompetence which even 3 year old me would have been above, or malice.
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The cops blamed the victims and called them crazy over completely real events which the police themselves were accused of being a part of by the perpetrator BEFORE he got caught. Need I say more? There are some more links here: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the...ske-guilty-5-counts-kidnapping-t1747-s20.html
In regards to things like these they can be far more disgusting and horrific than a normal person could even imagine. I mean that extremely literally.
tldr: man kidnaps several women, tells at least one that he is part of an underground slavery network which the police are complicit with. the man literally releases the kidnapped women, who go directly to the police, and the police blame the victims and refuse to believe their stories, even framing the boyfriend of one for it.

Hitler banned Usury.
this may be a good thing but he still 100% was at least partially being used as a pawn by the banker shitheads whether he knew about it or not. looking at Israel (the modern state not the actual Biblical nation) should be evidence of that enough
 
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To make this discussion a little more crackpot, I think that Disclosure Day isn't going to be aliens, it's going to be that we actually are in a simulation. Whether it's a game, a historical simulation to find something out, or just to get people's opinions like in Simulacron-3, or plugged into some sort of life simulator like in Rick and Morty. Because everything I've seen about Disclosure Day is that it's big and most people won't be able to handle it. But maybe if they are used to interacting with AI, things they know aren't "real" people it might ease the pain of not being real themselves.
There was a guy on 4chan a while ago who said he'd learned It. The Big Secret, The Truth, the Thing Behind Everything, and he said the worst thing about it was that when you learn the truth, you have to keep going. You have to keep paying rent and shitting and everything else.
That stuck with me.

My own subjective opinion is that the Gnostics were pretty close to the truth- basically we were created by a "God" who was not the Supreme Being, but we each contain divinity within ourselves due to intervention by the "real" God. We are trapped within an energy-harvesting simulation because the "God" of this world doesn't have the divine spark and can't make divine energy himself, nor can "demons" who are basically his minions and exist by parasiting off human energy. The "real" God can't help us because we are trapped in the physical realm and breaking it would destroy us. This is why "messengers" like Jesus were sent, though their message is frequently corrupted and twisted to support earthly religious and political structures.
I mostly agree. I mean digital or light, it's all energy, right? Virtual or non material may just be a matter of semantics. Gnosticism was also one of the things I was thinking of when I mentioned how many versions of Christianity have there been? Imagine if that pot had never been broken the conversation we might be having now.
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Context: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/22374534/

Nah, Hitler fought in the trenches of WW1. I doubt he was in on it.
this may be a good thing but he still 100% was at least partially being used as a pawn by the banker shitheads whether he knew about it or not. looking at Israel (the modern state not the actual Biblical nation) should be evidence of that enough
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I’m a true believer:

Dead Internet Theory

My take on this is that at least intially, it was the NPC meme people that started this before more bots came in.


Justin Trudeau is the son of Fidel Castro
No idea, but it's a fun one to think is possible.

Covid came from a lab in China that was funded by the US government

Not unreasonable, it's entirely possible. Evidence of the first cluster supports wet market, but we lack data to prove or disprove lab, and while the lab wasn't as close to the wet market as people think. It doesn't mean someone from lab didn't go to the wet market when infected.

Controlled opposition seeds intentionally retarded conspiracy theories to poison normies against conspiracy theories in general

Definitely. There's been so many examples. It's not just conspiracy theories, it's even just attached to people who run counter to the approved narratives. A whole lot of non-sense gets peddled about them so people will never listen. They'll think a Joe Rogan is some toxic mansophere Andrew Tate figure.


I Want To Believe (but I don’t feel like the evidence is strong enough):

The moon landing was faked
Nah, that one was real.

The Covid vaccine will kill/reduce the fertility of all recipients

There's something off about the vaccines. I don't think we can fully grasp what it was yet. It'll be sheer incompetence and authoritarian instincts of our politicians over any planned reasons to use the vaccine to make us infertile or anything.

I think we've seen too many indications that there's something they're covering up. Last week there was a freedom of information release in Australia on the testing the quality of the different batches of the vaccine. The entire thing redacted. There's stuff they don't want us to know.


Brigitte Macron is a man

It's a fun one, but eh.

I don’t believe (evidence against):

9-11 was an inside job

It depends how you define inside job. If anything, a deep state aligned group of people helped encourage and enable them to do it. Mossad working with the Saudi's. Strong connections to some in the neo-con establishment in America. Helping to enable the terrorists. It might have been a bit of blind handling. Helping without wanting to know the details. Then it was way more successful than they expected.

It'll be interesting to know if we ever find out if United 93 was shot down.

We know Israel watched Hamas rehearse Oct 7. Received warnings from Egypt and others. Then stood down the military and let it happen. Before coming in and blowing up a lot of Israelis. Then immediately started lying about what went on. Potentially moved a music festival right to where the breach was about to happen. Atrocities commited blamed on Hamas that were down by groups Israel funs and controls in Gaza who also crossed over.

So we know this kind of crazy shit happens.

Michelle Obama is a man

It's fun, but yeah not true.

Barack Obama was born in Kenya

Yeah, most likely not real but honestly if it came out this was true. Would anyone actually be shocked?

Existence of alien contacts

Definitely not true, but the UFO and aliens stuff is done to distract people. There's clearly a propaganda effort out there to make people waste time thinking about it. Even if they get a small number of people to waste time reading or talking, listening to podcasts on that shit. It's less time they are paying attention to anything they should be.

Much like celebrity gossip and lots of other non important things we're told by the media to care about. You can just look at any mainstream news website for normies and the amount of news stories that are pointless is massive.
 
Do you guys believe in anything Terence McKenna said, or is he just crazy? I've taken psychadelics a few times but never enough to see aliens or machine elves. It is odd how people see the same motifs when they're on these drugs. Is it possible any of the stuff people see on them is real? I believe some paranormal phenomena may be on a different wavelength like radio waves, and it's possible these drugs just make you more perceptive to other shit that's normally filtered out.
 
this may be a good thing but he still 100% was at least partially being used as a pawn by the banker shitheads whether he knew about it or not. looking at Israel (the modern state not the actual Biblical nation) should be evidence of that enough
Once he fired that bank of international settlements/freemason shill Hjalmar Schacht, that's when they got economically desperate and started with the invasions. Otto Skorzeny, who married the niece of Hjalmar Schacht, used Schacht's BIS connections to fund the postwar "Nazi international" that helped ex nazis with work that included him working Israel, weirdly enough, and practically every other major power at the time, a real life MGS character. BIS now promotes global digital currency and works closely with the WEF.
 
Hitler was sending messages between battlefronts in WW1. He wasn't "fighting in the trenches".
Why must you insist on being wrong about everything? He was at Ypres and fought in the Somme, which was nothing but trench warfare. Messenger duty was only a part of his duties. And messenger duty in the trenches is still in the fucking trenches. Retard.
 
Why must you insist on being wrong about everything? He was at Ypres and fought in the Somme, which was nothing but trench warfare. Messenger duty was only a part of his duties. And messenger duty in the trenches is still in the fucking trenches.
Being a millitary postman between trenches doesn't mean you're fighting tooth and nail.
 
Being a millitary postman between trenches doesn't mean you're fighting tooth and nail.
In world war one, in one of the most destructive and vicious theatres of the war, when it was only part of his duties, you absolute fucking mongrel-brained idiot, yes, a "military postman" will be "fighting tooth and nail". It takes a lot of effort to be as wrong as you. I have to believe it's a bit, at this point, because nobody is this stupid.
 
My own subjective opinion is that the Gnostics were pretty close to the truth- basically we were created by a "God" who was not the Supreme Being, but we each contain divinity within ourselves due to intervention by the "real" God. We are trapped within an energy-harvesting simulation because the "God" of this world doesn't have the divine spark and can't make divine energy himself, nor can "demons" who are basically his minions and exist by parasiting off human energy. The "real" God can't help us because we are trapped in the physical realm and breaking it would destroy us. This is why "messengers" like Jesus were sent, though their message is frequently corrupted and twisted to support earthly religious and political structures.

The upcoming technocratic state that is being built, is designed to make people not think about their own divinity and rely on tech and AI for everything, including knowledge and research. That's a feature, not a bug.
lurianic occultists are trying to create a digital messiah so they can hoist it over the population and rule over an inferior version of reality as artificial gods

this is more or less verbatim the cosmology of post-enlightenment lurianic kabbalah. not so much the creator/god thing, but the idea that we're trapped in a broken system and have to repair it is absolutely a piece of modern jewish theology. i have a very strong feeling its being anachronistically folded back into mainline christianity in bad faith. This would not be the first time that lurians have attempted to poison a well
 
The UN and UN workers are a lot dodgy than most people think. There was a reason for that infamous "a uniform does not give you the license to rape" internal video they put out. I don't have proof of anything anymore except certain transactions happening and I'm not going to PL but everyone who works for that organization should die. Idk how high up this shit goes though.
Most of the UN blue helmets are Bangladeshis, Indians and Rwandans.
 
The upcoming technocratic state that is being built, is designed to make people not think about their own divinity and rely on tech and AI for everything, including knowledge and research. That's a feature, not a bug.

Most people could handle it if you told them that said simulation was created by "God". What they really can't handle is the idea that history, religion, politics, and popular culture are all fake and/or heavily manipulated in very specific ways.
Christian anarchist Jacques Ellul made an interesting point that modern technology itself replaces religions due to the all-pervasiveness of it all and the daily habitual use of it that replaces traditional ritual behavior and practices, as religion itself is a form of technique/technology meant to give men meaning, order and control, replacing one demiurge (jesus/buddha/moses/muhammad or whoever) with the current technological one. It's why modernity itself naturally leads to mass secularism, a phenomenon you see worldwide. Modern technology itself is the religion of modern globalism as Christianity was to medieval Europe.
 
Being a millitary postman between trenches doesn't mean you're fighting tooth and nail.
Most people in the military don't have a job description that involves fighting. Under ideal conditions, they'll never see combat. I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone describe the Somme as "ideal". His injuries are well documented and uncontentious, he absolutely saw combat.
 
It's really interesting that the more you read about Christianity (and the other two mainstream Abrahamic Religions), the more they sound like a death cult rather than a proper monotheistic religion like Zoroastrianism or Buddhism.

It seems like every issue we have in the past 2,000 years from the Middle Ages to AI can be tied directly to the teachings of Jew Religion.

Jew Religion is extremely obsessed with death and dying. It seems like the "Big Three" always teach that there is no inherent meaning in life but suffering and the rewards can only be brought through death. They don't just believe in the afterlife, they believe in suffering and death. What's the point in protecting your rights and your family, fighting against injustice or inventing new concepts if death and destruction is an inevitable and your place in heaven is based on how obedient you are and how tolerant you are to suffering?

And these death cults seem to go out of their way to make life as unenjoyable as possible; the very concept of ego is associated with pride and hubris, the very concept of joy and pleasure is associated with the worst of debaucheries, and the desire for personal liberty is associated with eternal anarchy. This is not simply about excesses, but about even the most fleeting displays of human nature.

They don't teach you to be free from slavery and suffering, they teach you to become a slave and suffer so you will go to heaven when you die. It teaches you to kill the rich to feed the poor rather than telling them how to climb up the ladder and become better people. Of course, unless if said rich is a Bishop or Rabbi.

Their "Saints" and "Holy Men" are defined by how much they suffer or inflict suffering upon everyone they don't like rather than their ability to bring joy or their (actual) heroism. If you can imagine Celestial Dragons, you have a very good idea on what the Jew Religions deemed as Saints and Holy Men (In fact it seems like Oda based the Celestial Dragons on this).

Also they divide. HARD. One of the core tenets of Jew Religion is "God is right and can do nothing wrong" even if He commits genocides, mass murder and mass torture almost every other chapter in the Old Testament. Enlil and Zeus are morally accountable and failible despite being just as brutal, if not worse than the Jewish God; they are treated exactly as the dangerous and petty cosmic beings as they are and there's no hiding it. This never applies to the Abrahamic God. So you end up with a bunch of zealots fighting, killing and eating each other to defend what they believe is right, with violence and torture of the most brutal sort against all other parties being the only situation. It appears as if no matter if it's rape, murder or cannibalism, it's all right when it's to defend your faith.

Whatever I said above also applies to the more "secular" incarnations of this faith such as Communism and the Woke Agenda, which are Abrahamic Religions in disguise.

And I suspect that this isn't a glitch in the matrix or a hijacked religion; it is by design. No evil dictatorship and no evil idea calls itself evil; the most insidious of these often believe that they are doing it for the Greater Good (not the Tau way, the Nurgle way); and I believe that the Elites of now are of no exception. For all their evil, they genuinely believe that they are creating an utopia for everyone by ushering upon the utter death of civilization and humanity.


Christian anarchist Jacques Ellul made an interesting point that modern technology itself replaces religions due to the all-pervasiveness of it all and the daily habitual use of it that replaces traditional ritual behavior and practices, as religion itself is a form of technique/technology meant to give men meaning, order and control, replacing one demiurge (jesus/buddha/moses/muhammad or whoever) with the current technological one. It's why modernity itself naturally leads to mass secularism, a phenomenon you see worldwide. Modern technology itself is the religion of modern globalism as Christianity was to medieval Europe.

The new world order Globalist religion will be something we had never heard of. Probably the United Nations and its "war heroes" if I were to suspect. AI is only a mean to enforce the end.

See how we can freely criticize AI and it is not suppressed, but ignored?
 
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It's really interesting that the more you read about Christianity (and the other two mainstream Abrahamic Religions), the more they sound like a death cult rather than a proper monotheistic religion like Zoroastrianism or Buddhism.
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The Gospel of Mary

by Mark M. Mattison
The following translation has been committed to the public domain and may be freely copied and used, changed or unchanged, for any purpose. It is based on the Coptic text of Papyrus Berolinensis 8502, 1.

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Pages 1 through 6 are missing.


An Eternal Perspective
7 "Then will [matter] be [destroyed], or not?"
The Savior said, "Every nature, every form, every creature exists in and with each other, but they'll dissolve again into their own roots, because the nature of matter dissolves into its nature alone. Anyone who has ears to hear should hear!"
Peter said to him, "Since you've explained everything to us, tell us one more thing. What's the sin of the world?"
The Savior said, "Sin doesn't exist, but you're the ones who make sin when you act in accordance with the nature of adultery, which is called 'sin.' That's why the Good came among you, up to the things of every nature in order to restore it within its root."
Then he continued and said, "That's why you get sick and die, because [you love 8 what tricks you. Anyone who] can understand should understand!
"Matter [gave birth to] a passion that has no image because it comes from what's contrary to nature. Then confusion arises in the whole body. That's why I told you to be content at heart. If you're discontented, find contentment in the presence of the various images of nature. Anyone who has ears to hear should hear!"

The Gospel
When the Blessed One said these things, he greeted them all and said, "Peace be with you! Acquire my peace. Be careful not to let anyone mislead you by saying, 'Look over here!' or 'Look over there!' Because the Son of Humanity exists within you. Follow him! Those who seek him will find him.
"Go then and preach the gospel about the kingdom. Don't 9 lay down any rules beyond what I've given you, nor make a law like the lawgiver, lest you be bound by it." When he said these things, he left.
But they grieved and wept bitterly. They said, "How can we go up to the Gentiles to preach the gospel about the kingdom of the Son of Humanity? If they didn't spare him, why would they spare us?"

Mary and Jesus
Then Mary arose and greeted them all. She said to her brothers (and sisters), "Don't weep and grieve or let your hearts be divided, because his grace will be with you all and will protect you. Rather we should praise his greatness because he's prepared us and made us Humans."
When Mary said these things, she turned their hearts [toward] the Good and they [started] to debate the words of [the Savior].
10 Peter said to Mary, "Sister, we know the Savior loved you more than all other women. Tell us the words of the Savior that you remember – the things which you know that we don't, and which we haven't heard."
In response Mary said, "I'll tell you what's hidden from you." So she started to tell them these words: "I," she said, "I saw the Lord in a vision and I said to him, 'Lord, I saw you in a vision today.'
"In response he said to me, 'You're blessed because you didn't waver at the sight of me. For where the mind is, there is the treasure.'
"I said to him, 'Lord, now does the one who sees the vision see it /in\ the soul /or\ in the spirit?'
"In response the Savior said, 'They don't see in the soul or in the spirit, but the mind which [exists] between the two is [what] sees the vision [and] it [that …]

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Overcoming the Powers
15 "And Desire said, 'I didn't see you going down, but now I see you're going up. So why are you lying, since you belong to me?'
"In response the soul said, 'I saw you, but you didn't see me or know me. I was to you just a garment, and you didn't recognize me.' When it said these things, it left, rejoicing greatly.
"Again, it came to the third power, which is called 'Ignorance.' [It] interrogated the soul and [said], 'Where are you going? In wickedness you're bound. Since you're bound, don't judge!'
"[And] the soul said, 'Why do you judge me, since I haven't judged? I was bound, even though I haven't bound. They didn't recognize me, but I've recognized that everything will dissolve – both the things of the [earth] 16 and the things of [heaven].'

"When the soul had overcome the third power, it went up and saw the fourth power, which took seven forms:
The first form is Darkness;
The second, Desire;
The third, Ignorance;
The fourth, Zeal for Death;
The fifth, the Kingdom of the Flesh;
The sixth, the Foolish 'Wisdom' of Flesh;
The seventh, the 'Wisdom' of Anger.

"These are the seven powers of Wrath.
"They ask the soul, 'Where do you come from, you murderer, and where are you going, conqueror of space?'
"In response the soul said, 'What binds me has been killed, what surrounds me has been overcome, my desire is gone, and ignorance has died. In a [world] I was released 17 from a world, [and] in a type from a type which is above, and from the chain of forgetfulness which exists only for a time. From now on I'll receive the rest of the time of the season of the age in silence.'"
When Mary said these things, she fell silent because the Savior had spoken with her up to this point.


Conflict over Authority
In response Andrew said to the brothers (and sisters), 'Say what you will about what she's said, I myself don't believe that the Savior said these things, because these teachings seem like different ideas."
In response Peter spoke out with the same concerns. He asked them concerning the Savior: "He didn't speak with a woman without our knowledge and not publicly with us, did he? Will we turn around and all listen to her? Did he prefer her to us?"
18 Then Mary wept and said to Peter, "My brother Peter, what are you thinking? Do you really think that I thought this up by myself in my heart, or that I'm lying about the Savior?"
In response Levi said to Peter, "Peter, you've always been angry. Now I see you debating with this woman like the adversaries. But if the Savior made her worthy, who are you then to reject her? Surely the Savior knows her very well. That's why he loved her more than us.
"Rather we should be ashamed, clothe ourselves with perfect Humanity, acquire it for ourselves as he instructed us, and preach the gospel, not laying down any other rule or other law beyond what the Savior said."
When 19 [Levi said these things], they started to go out to teach and to preach.
Page 8: "Be content at heart … discontented … find contentment." Or possibly "Be obedient … disobedient … be obedient."

Pages 8 and 9: "Son of Humanity." Literally, "Son of the Human," a technical term based on an Aramaic idiom meaning "human."

Pages 15 through 17: For a similar ascent narrative, see The Stranger’s Book, pages 63 through 66.

Page 18: "Perfect Humanity." Literally, "the perfect human."

The Gospel of Judas

by Mark M. Mattison
The following translation has been committed to the public domain and may be freely copied and used, changed or unchanged, for any purpose. It is based on the Coptic text of Codex Tchacos 3. For information about the surviving manuscript of the Gospel of Judas, see the Manuscript Information page. For additional information about the translation, see the introduction to the PDF version.

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Introduction

33 This is the secret message of judgment Jesus spoke with Judas Iscariot over a period of eight days, three days before he celebrated Passover.

When he appeared on earth, he did signs and great wonders for the salvation of humanity. Some [walked] in the way of righteousness, but others walked in their transgression, so the twelve disciples were called. He started to tell them about the mysteries beyond the world and what would happen at the end. Often he didn't reveal himself to his disciples, but you'd find him in their midst as a child.

Jesus Criticizes the Disciples
One day he was with his disciples in Judea. He found them sitting together practicing their piety. When he [came up to] his disciples 34 sitting together praying over the bread, [he] laughed.
The disciples said to him, "Master, why are you laughing at [our] prayer? What have we done? [This] is what's right."
He answered and said to them, "I'm not laughing at you. You're not doing this because you want to, but because through this your God [will be] praised."
They said, "Master, you […] are the Son of our God!"
Jesus said to them, "How do [you] know me? Truly say to you, no generation of the people among you will know me."
When his disciples heard this, [they] started to get angry and furious and started to curse him in their hearts.
But when Jesus noticed their ignorance, [he said] to them, "Why are you letting your anger trouble you? Has your God within you and [his stars] 35 become angry with your souls? If any of you is [strong enough] among humans to bring out the perfect Humanity, stand up and face me."
All of them said, "We're strong enough." But their spirits weren't brave enough to stand before [him] – except Judas Iscariot. He was able to stand before him, but he couldn't look him in the eye, so he looked away.
Judas [said] to him, "I know who you are and where you've come from. You've come from the immortal realm of Barbelo, and I'm not worthy to utter the name of the one who's sent you."
Then Jesus, knowing that he was thinking about what's exalted, said to him, "Come away from the others and I'll tell you the mysteries of the kingdom. Not so that you'll go there, but you'll grieve much 36 because someone else will replace you to complete the twelve [elements] before their God."
Judas said to him, "When will you tell me these things, and when will the great day of light dawn for the generation […]?"
But when he said these things, Jesus left him.

Another Generation
The next morning, he appeared to his disciples. [And] they said to him, "Master, where did [you] go and what did you do when you left us?"
Jesus said to them, "I went to another great and holy generation."
His disciples said to him, "Lord, what great generation is better and holier than us, that's not in these realms?"
Now when Jesus heard this, he laughed. He said to them, "Why are you wondering in your hearts about the strong and holy generation? 37 Truly I say to you, no one born [of] this realm will see that [generation], no army of angels from the stars will rule over it, and no person of mortal birth will be able to join it, because that generation doesn't come from […] that has become […] the generation of the people among [them] is from the generation of the great people […] the powerful authorities who […] nor the powers […] those by which you rule."
When his disciples heard these things, they were each troubled in their spirit. They couldn't say a thing.


The Disciples' Vision
Another day Jesus came up to them. They said to him, "Master, we've seen you in a dream, because we had great [dreams last] night."
But Jesus said, "Why […] hidden yourselves?"
38 And they [said, "We saw] a great [house, with a great] altar [in it, and] twelve people – we'd say they were priests – and a name. And a crowd of people was waiting at the altar [until] the priests [finished receiving] the offerings. We kept waiting too."
[Jesus said], "What were they like?"
And they said, "[Some] fast [for] two weeks. Others sacrifice their own children; others their wives, praising and humbling themselves among each other. Others sleep with men; others murder; yet others commit many sins and do criminal things. [And] the people standing [before] the altar invoke your [name]! 39 And in all their sacrificing, they fill the [altar] with their offerings." When they said this, [they] fell silent because they were troubled.
Jesus said to them, "Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests standing before that altar invoke my name. And [again], I say to you, my name has been written on this [house] of the generations of the stars by the human generations. [And they] have shamefully planted fruitless trees in my name." Jesus said to them, "You're the ones receiving the offerings on the altar you've seen. That's the God you serve, and you're the twelve people you've seen. And the animals you saw brought in to be sacrificed are the crowd you lead astray 40 before that altar. [Your minister] will stand up and use my name like that, and [the] generations of the pious will be loyal to him. After him, another person will present [those who sleep around], and another those who murder children, and another those who sleep with men, and those who fast, and the rest of impurity, crime, and error. And those who say, 'We're equal to the angels' – they're the stars that finish everything. It's been said to the human generations, 'Look, God has accepted your sacrifice from the hands of priests,' that is, the minister of error. But the Lord who commands is the Lord over everything. On the last day, they'll be found guilty."
41 Jesus said [to them], "Stop [sacrificing animals]. You've [offered them] over the altar, over your stars with your angels where they've already been completed. So let them become […] with you and let them [become] clear."
His disciples [said to him], "Cleanse us from our [sins] that we've committed through the deceit of the angels."
Jesus said to them, "It's not possible […], nor [can] a fountain quench the fire of the entire inhabited world. Nor can a [city's] well satisfy all the generations, except the great, stable one. A single lamp won't illuminate all the realms, except the second generation, nor can a baker feed all creation 42 under [heaven]."
And [when the disciples heard] these [things], they said to [him], "Master, help us and save us!"
Jesus said to them, "Stop struggling against me. Each one of you has his own star, [and …] of the stars will […] what belongs to it […] I wasn't sent to the corruptible generation, but to the strong and incorruptible generation, because no enemy has ruled [over] that generation, nor any of the stars. Truly I say to you, the pillar of fire will fall quickly and that generation won't be moved by the stars."


Jesus and Judas
And when Jesus [said] these things, he left, [taking] Judas Iscariot with him. He said to him, "The water on the exalted mountain is [from] 43 […] it didn't come to [water … the well] of the tree of [the fruit …] of this realm […] after a time […], but came to water God's paradise and the enduring [fruit], because [it] won't corrupt that generation's [walk of life], but [it will exist] for all eternity."
Judas said to [him, "Tell] me, what kind of fruit does this generation have?"
Jesus said, "The souls of every human generation will die; however, when these people have completed the time in the kingdom and the spirit leaves them, their bodies will die but their souls will live, and they'll be taken up."
Judas said, "What will the rest of the human generations do?"
Jesus said, "It's not possible 44 to sow on [rock] and harvest its fruit. In the same way, it's [not possible to sow on] the [defiled] race along with the perishable wisdom [and] the hand which created mortal humans so that their souls may go up to the realms above. [Truly] I say to you, [no ruler], angel, [or] power will be able to see the [places] that [this great], holy generation [will see]." When Jesus said this, he left.
Judas said, "Master, just as you've listened to all of them, now listen to me too, because I've seen a great vision."
But Jesus laughed when he heard this. He said to him, "Why are you all worked up, you thirteenth demon? But speak up, and I'll bear with you."
Judas said to him, "In the vision, I saw myself. The twelve disciples are stoning me and 45 chasing [me rapidly]. And I also came to the place where [I had followed] you. I saw [a house in this place], and my eyes couldn't [measure] its size. Great people surrounded it, and that house had a roof of greenery. In the middle of the house was [a crowd …]. Master, take me in with these people!"
[Jesus] answered and said, "Your star has led you astray, Judas," and that "no person of mortal birth is worthy to enter the house you've seen, because that place is reserved for those who are holy. Neither the sun nor the moon will rule there, nor the day, but those who are holy will always stand in the realm with the holy angels. Look, I've told you the mysteries of the kingdom 46 and I've taught you about the error of the stars and […] sent [on high] over the twelve realms."
Judas said, "Master, surely my seed doesn't dominate the rulers, does it?"
Jesus answered and said to him, "Come, let me [tell] you [about the holy generation. Not so that you'll go there], but you'll grieve much when you see the kingdom and all its generation."
When Judas heard this, he said to him, "What good has it done me that you've separated me from that generation?"
Jesus answered and said, "You'll become the thirteenth, and will be cursed by the other generations and will rule over them. In the last days they'll […] to you and you won't go up 47 to the holy generation."

Jesus Reveals Everything to Judas
Jesus said, "[Come] and I'll teach you about the [mysteries that no] human [will] see, because there exists a great and boundless realm whose horizons no angelic generation has seen, [in] which is a [great] invisible Spirit, which no [angelic] eye has ever seen, no heart has ever comprehended, and it's never been called by any name.
"And a luminous cloud appeared there. And he (the Spirit) said, 'Let an angel come into being to attend me.' And a great angel, the Self-Begotten, the God of the Light, emerged from the cloud. And because of him, another four angels came into being from another cloud, and they attended the angelic Self-Begotten. And said 48 the [Self-Begotten], 'Let [a realm] come into being,' and it came into being [just as he said]. And he [created] the first luminary to rule over it. And he said, 'Let angels come into being to serve [it,' and myriads] without number came into being. And he said, '[Let a] luminous realm come into being,' and it came into being. He created the second luminary to rule over it, along with myriads of angels without number to offer service. And that's how he created the rest of the realms of light. And he made them to be ruled, and created for them myriads of angels without number to assist them.
"And Adamas was in the first cloud of light that no angel could ever see among all those called 'God.' 49 And [Adamas begat Seth in] that [place after the] image [of …] and after the likeness of [this] angel. He made the incorruptible [generation] of Seth appear to the twelve androgynous [luminaries. And then] he made seventy-two luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation according to the Spirit's will. Then the seventy-two luminaries themselves made three hundred sixty luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation according to the Spirit's will so that there'd be five for each. And the twelve realms of the twelve luminaries make up their father, with six heavens for each realm so there are seventy-two heavens for the seventy-two luminaries, and for each one 50 [of them five] firmaments [for a total of] three hundred sixty [firmaments. They] were given authority and a [great] army of angels without number for honor and service, along with virgin spirits [too] for the honor and [service] of all the realms and the heavens with their firmaments.
"Now the crowd of those immortals is called 'cosmos' – that is, 'perishable' – by the father and the seventy-two luminaries with the Self-Begotten and his seventy-two realms. That's where the first human appeared with his incorruptible powers. In the realm that appeared with his generation is the cloud of knowledge and the angel who's called 51 [Eleleth …] After these things [Eleleth] said, 'Let twelve angels come into being [to] rule over Chaos and [Hades]. And look, from the cloud there appeared an [angel] whose face flashed with [fire] and whose likeness was [defiled] by blood. His name was Nebro, which means 'Rebel.' Others call him Yaldabaoth. And another angel, Saklas, came from the cloud too. So Nebro created six angels – and Saklas (did too) – to be assistants. They brought out twelve angels in the heavens, with each of them receiving a portion in the heavens.
"And the twelve rulers spoke with the twelve angels: 'Let each of you 52 […] and let them […] generation [… five] angels:
The first [is Yaoth], who's called 'the Good One.'
The second is Harmathoth, [the eye of fire].
The [third] is Galila.
The fourth [is] Yobel.
The fifth is Adonaios.
"These are the five who ruled over Hades and are the first over Chaos.
"Then Saklas said to his angels, 'Let's create a human being after the likeness and the image.' And they fashioned Adam and his wife Eve, who in the cloud is called 'Life,' because by this name all the generations seek him, and each of them calls her by their names. Now Saklas didn't 53 [command …] give birth, except […] among the generations […] which this […] and the [angel] said to him, 'Your life will last for a limited time, with your children.'"
Then Judas said to Jesus, "[How] long can a person live?"
Jesus said, "Why are you amazed that the lifespans of Adam and his generation are limited in the place he's received his kingdom with his ruler?"
Judas said to Jesus, "Does the human spirit die?"
Jesus said, "This is how it is. God commanded Michael to loan spirits to people so that they might serve. Then the Great One commanded Gabriel to give spirits to the great generation with no king – the spirit along with the soul. So the [rest] of the souls 54 […] light [… the] Chaos […] seek [the] spirit within you which you've made to live in this flesh from the angelic generations. Then God caused knowledge to be brought to Adam and those with him, so that the kings of Chaos and Hades might not rule over them."
[Then] Judas said to Jesus, "So what will those generations do?"
Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, the stars complete all these things. When Saklas completes the time span that's been determined for him, their first star will appear with the generations, and they'll finish what's been said. Then they'll sleep around in my name, murder their children, 55 and [they'll …] evil and […] the realms, bringing the generations and presenting them to Saklas. [And] after that […] will bring the twelve tribes of [Israel] from […], and the [generations] will all serve Saklas, sinning in my name. And your star will [rule] over the thirteenth realm." Then Jesus [laughed].
[Judas] said, "Master, why [are you laughing at me?"
Jesus] answered [and said], "I'm not laughing [at you but] at the error of the stars, because these six stars go astray with these five warriors, and they'll all be destroyed along with their creations."
Then Judas said to Jesus, "What will those do who've been baptized in your name?"


The Betrayal
Jesus said, "Truly I say [to you], this baptism 56 [which they've received in] my name […] will destroy the whole generation of the earthly Adam. Tomorrow they'll torture the one who bears me. Truly I [say] to you, no hand of a mortal human [will fall] upon me. Truly [I say] to you, Judas, those who offer sacrifices to Saklas […] everything that's evil. But you'll do more than all of them, because you'll sacrifice the human who bears me. Your horn has already been raised, your anger has been kindled, your star has ascended, and your heart has [strayed]. 57 Truly [I say to you], your last [… and] the [… the thrones] of the realm have [been defeated], the kings have grown weak, the angelic generations have grieved, and the evil [they sowed …] is destroyed, [and] the [ruler] is wiped out. [And] then the [fruit] of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, because before heaven, earth, and the angels, that generation from the realms exists. Look, you've been told everything. Lift up your eyes and see the cloud with the light in it and the stars around it. And the star that leads the way is your star."
Then Judas looked up and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it. Those standing on the ground heard a voice from the cloud saying, 58 "[ . . . the] great [generation . . . ] and [ . . . ]." And Judas didn't see Jesus anymore.
Immediately there was a disturbance among [the] Jews, more than […] Their high priests grumbled because he'd gone into the guest room to pray. But some scribes were there watching closely so they could arrest him during his prayer, because they were afraid of the people, since they all regarded him as a prophet.
And they approached Judas and said to him, "What are you doing here? Aren't you Jesus' disciple?"
Then he answered them as they wished. Then Judas received some money and handed him over to them.

Page 33: "Judgment." Or "declaration."

Page 36: "Elements." Rodolphe Kasser and Gregor Wurst reconstruct this word as "disciples" in The Gospel of Judas, Critical Edition: Together with the Letter of Peter to Philip, James, and a Book of Allogenes from Codex Tchacos (National Geographic), 2007, p. 191; but cf. Lance Jenott, The Gospel of Judas: Coptic Text, Translation, and Historical Interpretation of the 'Betrayer's Gospel' (Mohr Siebeck), 2011, pp. 54-56; 193-194.

Page 38: "Receiving." Kasser and Wurst reconstruct this word as "presenting" (op. cit., p. 195); but cf. Jenott, op. cit., p. 196.

Page 40: "Your minister." Kasser and Wurst originally considered "the ruler of the world" as a possible reconstruction (op. cit., p. 199), which is followed by Willis Barnstone in The Restored New Testament: A New Translation with Commentary, Including the Gnostic Gospels Thomas, Mary, and Judas (W.W. Norton & Company), 2009, p. 600; cp. Karen King, "the ruler of chaos" in Elaine Pagels and Karen L. King, Reading Judas: The Gospel of Judas and the Shaping of Christianity (Viking), 2007, p. 113, but Kasser and Wurst suggested instead reconstructing the gap to read "the bishop" or "the minister" based on what follows. For "your minister," cf. Jenott, op. cit., p. 64. "Present." Meyer and Gaudard translate "stand up from," King translates "stand with," and April DeConick translates "stand up for" in her book The Thirteenth Apostle: What the Gospel of Judas Really Says (Continuuim), 2007, rev. ed. 2009, p. 78; but cf. Jenott, op. cit., pp. 65,66.

Page 44: "Demon." Literally, "daimon," translated initially as "spirit" by Meyer and later as "god" by King. In broader Greek literature, daimons weren't necessarily evil spirits, but in Jewish and Christian literature, they were unambiguously regarded as evil. Cf. Birger A. Pearson, "Judas Iscariot in the Gospel of Judas," in The Codex Judas Papers: Proceedings of the International Congress on the Tchacos Codex held at Rice University, Houston, Texas, March 13-16, 2008, ed. by April D. DeConick (Brill), 2009, pp. 138-140.

Page 45: "A roof of greenery." Or possibly "a roof of lightning" or "fire." Cf. Lance Jenott, "The Gospel of Judas 45,6-7 and Enoch's Heavenly Temple," in The Codex Judas Papers, op. cit., pp. 471-477.

Page 46: "Surely my seed doesn't dominate the rulers, does it?" Following King, DeConick, and Jenott. Meyer and Gaudard translate, "could it be that my seed is under the control of the rulers?" and Barnstone, "could my seed, my heritage, fall under the control of the archons, who are rulers of this world?"

Page 47 and following: "The Self-Begotten." Literally, "Autogenes."

Page 48: "Let a realm come into being." Kasser and Wurst reconstruct "Let A[damas] come into being" (op. cit., p. 215); but cf. Jenott, Judas, op. cit., pp. 80-84.

Page 49: "The twelve androgynous luminaries." Kasser and Wurst reconstruct "the twelve […] 24 […]" (op. cit., p. 217); but cf. Jenott, op. cit., pp. 86-87.

Page 51: "Eleleth." Cf. Jenott, op. cit., pp. 94ff.

Page 52: "The first is Yaoth, the one known as 'The Good One.'" Meyer and Gaudard, King, and Barnstone translate "The first is Seth, the one who is called the Christ." However, the context makes that reconstruction doubtful, as the Sethian Christ is never counted among the lower angels. Consequently, this translation follows Jenott's reconstruction of "[Ya]oth" instead of "[Se]th" and DeConick's reading of the sacred abbreviation "chs" as "chrestos" ("good one") instead of "christos" ("Christ"; cf. DeConick, op cit., p. 121).

Page 57: "Fruit." Kasser and Wurst propose the reconstruction "image" instead of "fruit" (op. cit., p. 233); but cf. Jenott, op. cit., pp. 33,34.
 
There was a guy on 4chan a while ago who said he'd learned It. The Big Secret, The Truth, the Thing Behind Everything, and he said the worst thing about it was that when you learn the truth, you have to keep going. You have to keep paying rent and shitting and everything else.
You can leave the cave but you will always come back. You don't have a choice.

Definitely not true, but the UFO and aliens stuff is done to distract people. There's clearly a propaganda effort out there to make people waste time thinking about it. Even if they get a small number of people to waste time reading or talking, listening to podcasts on that shit. It's less time they are paying attention to anything they should be.
Currently, that is the majority of what is happening in that "space". But, as anyone who has researched the topic enough knows, the UFO phenomena has existed since at least Biblical times. You are not wrong, but you are focused on a tactic and not the force using it.

My own subjective opinion is that the Gnostics were pretty close to the truth- basically we were created by a "God" who was not the Supreme Being, but we each contain divinity within ourselves due to intervention by the "real" God. We are trapped within an energy-harvesting simulation because the "God" of this world doesn't have the divine spark and can't make divine energy himself, nor can "demons" who are basically his minions and exist by parasiting off human energy. The "real" God can't help us because we are trapped in the physical realm and breaking it would destroy us. This is why "messengers" like Jesus were sent, though their message is frequently corrupted and twisted to support earthly religious and political structures.
What is the "energy" it is harvesting? In what form? To what end? Maybe it isn't energy?
 
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