Avatar: The Last Airbender / The Legend of Korra

Avatar: Best animated series or best animated series ever?


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The animation for this looks terrible. It looks very janky and the motion for the actual characters seems completely off. Sokka's voice actor is the only one who sounds remotely like the old one.

What I noticed is that they still haven't resolved what happened with some of the other characters in the franchise. Suki appears in some of the artwork for the end credits but nowhere in the actual film itself. Zuko should have had Izumi by this point but we don't see Mai. I obviously didn't expect to see Azula or Ty Lee, but why not anything for either Suki or Mai? Are they really just that desperate in avoiding any of those lingering questions surrounding if got back together with Zuko and what exactly happened with Suki after the show ended?

A reminder that this was a multi-year project that was delayed multiple times and they still couldn't put something good together.
Modern animators would sooner show two males sodomize each other than agree to show a heterosexual romance. Wonder if Aang and Katara even have any romantic scenes or they are too prude to show it.

I really think Korra should have gone full Rex and had Aang having kids with every girl that had romantic feelings for him to repopulate the Air Nomads.
 
Multiple guys, according to Korra

None of which worked out.
At least two since she has two daughters. But with how thirsty she is in this movie I could believe it as more.

She's the prime example of a girl who grew up in a strict home going nuts the moment she's free of her strict parents restraints.
 
Get it while its hot!

The only praise I can muster for this movie is that the animation is great which isn't surprising given Flying Dog's pedigree but everything else from the story to the voice work is a resounding...meh. This honestly feels less like a movie and more like a miniseries that was splice together to fit the appropriate runtime of 90 minutes because the pacing is really really fast. The plot feels like one of those Naruto/One Piece movies in which everything is laid out so theres no surprises and you're really just here to watch the well animated fights and thats it. Animation is the biggest highlight but I thought they leaned too hard into the anime-isms you find in shows like Teen Titans which was distracting at times. It was such a stupid decision to replace the voice cast because this is by all means a fanservice movie and its just not the same. Overall not great but not a disaster and probably the best thing the franchise has spawned since....fuck...🤔

Edit: Looks like Paramount is on the prowl

The first quarter of the movie gave me hope that it was going to be pretty decent but then it went to shit in the last act. The animation is great and many of the settings are beautiful... But that being said it really doesn't have any of the simplistic charm the original series had and it feels way too fantasy/anime/ghibli-esque for what I feel is right for the Avatar universe. The spirit world in this movie (and by extension Korra) has been reduced to nothing but bright colors, magic, ghibli creatures, and giving characters the ability to go super saiyan which is very dissapointing for me because the original depiction of the spirit world was so mysterious and felt like it had a lot of cryptic wisdom and its sucks to see that its been reduced to anime spirit powers. In the final battle the dialogue was so corny and cringe inducing that I could barely watch, especially when Katara said "Hes being corrupted by its PoWerrr!!!" my ass clenched a hole through my pants in pure cringe. The bad guy and his goons were way too overpowered too, especially since he had just given all these non-benders the power to airbend and all the sudden theyre master airbenders. Idk objectively it was just ok but as a Avatar fan the plot was pretty disappointing with pretty large plot holes. Though at the end of the day I did enjoy seeing the gaang together and the kataang moments were pretty cute.
 
Glad it got leaked.

Only interested in the fighting game along with playing the Korra game made by platinum games and that alone lol.

Sad how they just like to milk the shit out of nostalgia. just to fuck & ruin it on this current modern audience shit-esque.
 
Glad it got leaked.

Only interested in the fighting game along with playing the Korra game made by platinum games and that alone lol.

Sad how they just like to milk the shit out of nostalgia. just to fuck & ruin it on this current modern audience shit-esque.
There's also a big action-adventure game in the works where you play as an ancient Avatar. I'm like 70/30 that it'll turn out rough given the developer, but we'll see.
 

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But that being said it really doesn't have any of the simplistic charm the original series had and it feels way too fantasy/anime/ghibli-esque for what I feel is right for the Avatar universe. The spirit world in this movie (and by extension Korra) has been reduced to nothing but bright colors, magic, ghibli creatures, and giving characters the ability to go super saiyan which is very dissapointing for me because the original depiction of the spirit world was so mysterious and felt like it had a lot of cryptic wisdom and its sucks to see that its been reduced to anime spirit powers.
The spirits felt more otherworldly in AtLA, they could be benevolent like the Painted Lady, they could be freaky monsters that were dangerous like Koh, some were seemingly physical embodiments of nature like Tui and La, or Hei Bai. And whenever you encounter them in the show, you got a sense of wonder or danger. Or sometimes both like with Wan Shi Tong. Or stuff like the swamp where the spirit world seems to intersect with the human world in a much more real way. It felt unique and it felt wild, like spirits weren't something to be fucked with.

In Korra, the only things I remember of the spirit world, was the flashback about the first Avatar, which I enjoyed, even if it had issues, and also like 99% of the spirits weren't mysterious, but were instead just cunts. Also, it being used to shoehorn in an Iroh cameo, which I think the right way to cameo him (if you can't resist the urge) is to have him shown in a flashback with Zuko, not showing Iroh choosing to just wander out of reality and become an immortal spirit. I honestly felt that is was wildly out of character for him, when he's talking with the fortune teller, he jokingly says, “At my age, there is really only one big surprise left, and I’d just as soon leave it a mystery.” He didn't strike me as someone who would shirk from death, especially as he's supposed to be a wise man, and he lives in a world that demonstrably has reincarnation, even if most people never know who their past lives were. I don't think Iroh would choose to live on as a spirit as everyone he loved ages and dies.

One of my favorite lines from Iroh is when he meets Toph, and he says, "Sharing tea with a fascinating stranger is one of life's true delights". I think that this franchise no longer has fascinating strangers for us to meet.

There's also a big action-adventure game in the works where you play as an ancient Avatar. I'm like 70/30 that it'll turn out rough given the developer, but we'll see.
I want to believe. But I don't have much faith in these projects.
 
Watched the leak, it's mid as fuck.
The writing is coal but the animation is great. I liked some of the action scenes, I guess.
The new VA all suck and Zuko doesn't even feel like the same character, but tbh he doesn't even do anything.
Actually, only Aang does anything the whole movie.

The villain and story could be interesting, but being a prequel to Korra means nothing could even happen.
Also, in many ways it feels recycled from season 1,2 and 3 of Korra.
 
Watched the leak, it's mid as fuck.
The writing is coal but the animation is great. I liked some of the action scenes, I guess.
The new VA all suck and Zuko doesn't even feel like the same character, but tbh he doesn't even do anything.
Actually, only Aang does anything the whole movie.

The villain and story could be interesting, but being a prequel to Korra means nothing could even happen.
Also, in many ways it feels recycled from season 1,2 and 3 of Korra.
It's kind of hard to care about this period in Avatar history when we've not only covered it so many times, but we already know how it ends. Prequels can work, but they have to present something unexpected or be so disconnected from modern day it feels like a legend itself.
 
"This shit is so ass." - Rockzo, after having finished the movie.

This is my review/postmortem/autistic rambling while I still have the critical details in my memory.
First we need to start with who's responsible, Lauren Montgomery was the director. She was previously a storyboard artist on Book 3 of ATLA. She was supervising producer and lead storyboard artist for all episodes of Korra. She's a core part of the animation team. Music was Jeremy Zuckerman, he was music lead on both ATLA and Korra.
The writers, are Tim Hedrick and Christopher Yost. Tim is a long, long time veteran. He has his name listed on the back half of Book 1, all of Books 2 and 3 and most episodes of Korra. Chris though. He's the anomaly. His credits include, Thor: Dark World. Thor: Ragnarok and The Tiger's Apprentice.
Credits list the screenplay as Tim and Chris, with Bryke being producers and helping with the story. This should have all worked. 5 years in development though and with Paramount shoving it onto the streaming service, it's easy to see why they didn't have any faith in this.

The problems.
The most obvious thing is the voice cast. Not one of the originals VAs come back because Bryke did a stupid "Racial Casting" thing even through most of the main cast is still alive. In no particular order:
- Gyatso sounds like he chain smokes.
- Batista I could hear twice the echoing of the recording room of his flat delivery
- Katara sounds kinda okay, Sokka sounds like his Ember Island Player, Zuko really needed Dante Basco back. The worst is Toph, the VA for her didn't even try. Aang is flat his entire time.
- Taika Waititi was that Gorillavark. Now that I know one of the screenplay writers worked with him on his movies, that explains why he wrote Taika into this movie.
- Sonam was voiced by an Indian and Kallak, that girl who gets air powers but uses them to help Aang was voiced by a aus-indo.
-They didn't even get the cabbage merchant voice actor back, even though James Sie is Asian. They got Ken Jeong from The Hangover series instead.

My biggest complaint of all of this though, is the character assassination of Aang.
The core drive of the movie, the same thing he says over and over in that flat voice of his was "I ran away." He has the nightmare in the beginning, he says that his culture is important. that his friends can't understand and that he needs that connection to his people.
All of this has already been solved. By the time the movie should take place, he has already accepted that he's the last Airbender and he can only be a teacher of his people's ways for the future. Do you remember the Guru? The 4th Chakra?


We're retreading a 20 year old plot point that was already solved by the end of Book Two. And that's what I hate about what Bryke is doing with ATLA. It's not enough to insert stuff from the comics like the Mother of Faces or retcon Oma and Shu to be gay. It's unraveling the character story beats that have already been solved in the main series for material for the movie.
One guy who I was watching this with said that this movie should have been a bridging movie for ALTA into Korra that didn't involve Taga. He said it should have been Zahir as the main villain, the Denied (stupid name) should have been called something different and lay the foundations for the equalists. He said that Zahir's quest for the staff was likely rejected as a story, so they replaced him with Taga and some spirit world nonsense instead.

Minor gripes
I don't like Taga looking like the Genie from Aladdin when he has all that spirit power. I especially don't like a female Yuyan archer talking when they're whole gimmick was an all male order that never spoke in combat. It's what made them so scary in Blue Spirit.
No Suki except for an end slide. No extended fire nation family outside of Iroh in a slide. The action scenes took years to animate yet I was getting bored towards the end because there is no emotional weight to the story and all the flash effects confuse me. It can look like a great sequence that Sokka get an ice sword to try and slash Taga but doesn't make sense to me where the characters are in the fight. The fighting choreography sucks.
Katara pulling an asspull with the spirit water to revive everyone and then getting swallowed by the Ocean Spirit. That was especially stupid.
Sealion turtle graveyard. Those are still stupid 18 years on.
A "lost" avatar. Sonam's whole thing of just disappearing is stupid when you consider that the Avatar can recount thousands of lives. Someone who made an Airbender Empire wouldn't be forgotten.
Toph and Zuko are wasted and it feels like they're only added so they can have a fire and earth bender when facing Taga.

Stuff I actually did like
Surprisingly, Sokka. His embellishments of his accomplishments to the kids. The "I've only crashed airships" when being left to pilot the one into the storm. Him making that bike out of junk parts. It's surprisingly all in character.
Aang having an airbending teacher. Him finding a brother in Taga in the beginning reminds you of what he lost. It was an effective emotional moment before the inevitable backstab.
Sonam's hood and scarf design while in the spirit world.
Finding the Bisons in an hidden valley. I know it's from the comics but I'll allow it has happened in ecology before. Where a previously thought extinct species has survived because a population was living in a remote area.
There was one guy fighting with fans in the final battle. It's a viable fighting technique for an airbender and nice callback to Aang using Kiyoshi's fans in Avatar Day.

Some slides:
Zuko and Iroh.
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The only picture of Suki here.
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And the other Warriors.
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Sonam's hood.
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One last thing, there's this old ass piece of fan art back in the Korra days of Toph and Zuko playing Pai-Sho. The grown up designs featured in the movie here kind of reminded me of it. I wonder if they were influenced by it.
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In conclusion, I did not like this at all. It feels like a One Piece/Naruto/Dragon Ball movie where they have the core cast in a story that's never brought up or referenced again in the main series.
 
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