🍗 Deathfat Lena Dunham - Fat, Child Molesting Attention Whore and Her Trainwreck of a Family

I do not like her writing. I don't find it charming or interesting. It's irritating without any redeeming factor; like watching Larry David or Woody Allen without the relief of humor to break up the awfulness.

I'm a bit too old to have been in the demographic to watch Girls, so I don't have the same sort of nostalgia others here may have. #damnkids
I like Lena's writing for the same reason I like KF. It's a raw reflection of degenerate reality. Her writing isn't a creative exploration. It's a stream of desperate consciousness. The episodes felt like they were based on something that happened to her last week. At the time that was innovative for a television show. There aren't many shows made, written, and acted by people in their early 20s in general, but over a decade ago it was even rarer. Especially a female centric show. Because it was so fresh, it didn't regress to story telling tropes, and stayed solid as a true depiction of what was actually going down with young adult women in a 2010 bug hive. Girls is hands down the most 2010's show of all the 2010s shows. It's a time capsule, and historians will watch it in the future to see just what the fuck was happening in the zeitgeist to lead to the ushering of the Trump era of politics.

And that is why Too Much isn't effective. That concept is no longer fresh. The writing and acting is not Lena as she is, but Lena as whom she thought she was. Frankly tv in general is becoming a shrinking medium, everyone has moved on.
 
Her writing isn't a creative exploration. It's a stream of desperate consciousness.
Her characters are written as people doing stupid things and they're portrayed negatively, not by chance, but because Lena knows these things aren't right.

Remember that at the end of Girls, they aren't friends any more and all but one are still dysfunctional. A bad writer would lie, she knows how to write herself right, she just happens to be awful.

Put it this way, Darth Vader is a villain written right. If you write him as a sweetheart, you're writing him poorly because that's not the character. You have to acknowledge he is a villainous character to understand how to make him act credible. Lena understands well what's wrong with her so she writes herself well as a dysfunctional person without any adornment to justify herself or present herself as a hero. Look at the writers of current SW and see how they badly they write their characters. People hate them because they act out of character. People hate Lena's characters because we're supposed to.
 
She’s a one-trick pony. She made a movie called Tiny Furniture that was released in 2010 and everything she’s been involved with since is a remake of it.

There is way too much overrating of Girls in this thread. It was popular for the first two seasons and then it fell off quickly. The last four seasons were not well regarded.
 
She’s a one-trick pony. She made a movie called Tiny Furniture that was released in 2010 and everything she’s been involved with since is a remake of it.
Tiny Furniture is better than Girls despite being common "slice of life" fiction that women tend to like so much. Nothing happens in the movie and that's much better than the stupid drama of Girls.

Say, Aura returns from college and she doesn't know what to do. She tries to get a job and reconnect with a friend. She's dramatic at some moments and she makes mistakes, but nothing big that people her age wouldn't do. The movie says "I don't know what to do but I'll figure out because I have friends and a family to help me get through it". There is little malice in her actions rather than someone who is trying to adapt to her new reality.

Girls, OTOH, it's Hannah saying "look, everybody, I'm fat and neurotic and unstable, and I make mistakes I could easily avoid... yet I still won't change a bit and I'm still getting the hot dude".

The character is written right, but the writer is still Lena Dunham telling us she won't change a bit and reality is wrong by having standards. At the end, none of them but Shoshana has changed for the better. Maybe Jessa a bit. But it's obvious why Shoshana won't hang with them any more: she feels they've never gonna grow up and she's right.
 
Lena doing a new media tour and this time discussing her rehab experiences. I, and others, called out her obvious raging pill addiction years ago.

She states she checked into rehab for “medical trauma” which tracks with all the BS she was spewing back then to get all the Rx possible. I still think her hysterectomy was just the end result of drug seeking, they made her go final boss to keep those fat scripts flowing. (But after her hysterectomy she had a problem because her main complaint was removed.)

The biggest problem with this is the amount of BS. It reads more like a character sketch exercise and script pitch. Lena ignoring the fact that she didn’t go to an average rehab with average people, but to a luxury rehab with ridiculously wealthy people. It reads a bit like her imagining what a rehab with non-multi-millionaires progeny or family would be like mixed with some truth.
 
Lena admits she has been annoying people since she was in preschool. She admits she was a loud tryhard and obnoxious.


She’s also going hard on the chronic illness theme. Her new memoir sounds like a real trip.
 
I cannot even imagine listening to an entire hour interview with her, what could possibly be more boring than a fat rich person's prescription drug habit
 
Lena admits she has been annoying people since she was in preschool. She admits she was a loud tryhard and obnoxious.


She’s also going hard on the chronic illness theme. Her new memoir sounds like a real trip.
Gotten so fat she no longer has any chins.
 
I cannot even imagine listening to an entire hour interview with her, what could possibly be more boring than a fat rich person's prescription drug habit
Despite the thumbnail, the drug convo was brief. I was more interested in how she’d absolve herself of all responsibility for the messes she made for herself. I was sort of distracted as I was listening while doing other things, but what did surprise me is that she admitted (paraphrase, but a close one) “I want to be able to say and do whatever I want and I don’t want anybody to be able to criticize me for it.” She said her mother told her it was the most self-aware thing Lena had ever said.

She claims her father is her “best friend in the whole world” yet was too ashamed to be seen with her on voting day in 2016 and asked her to let him go vote without her. And she still hasn’t realized she has daddy issues.
 
the part that is the most boring isn't the fat and it isn't the drugs, it's the rich. how can this person have any problems? the absolute worst thing that can happen to her is having to selfpublish.
 
She claims her father is her “best friend in the whole world” yet was too ashamed to be seen with her on voting day in 2016 and asked her to let him go vote without her. And she still hasn’t realized she has daddy issues.
Yes, I'm about to talk about SVU again, ok?

There is one episode where a girl convinced herself her father had abused her, but he had instead abused the sister. It's a terrible episode that exists for the guest actor to showcase her talent. Anyway, the woman was jealous of her father "loving" the sister more, that's what made her go nuts. Consider how Lena grew up, with a father whose art were vaginas. He was focused on female sexuality, but obviously, he didn't focus on hers (because, afaik, he's not a pedophile). Some nutjobs in cases like this convince themselves that they weren't loved because they were not sexually abused. In a subconscious level, this might be the basis of her feminist issues.
 
Idk guys I think she's just spoiled.

Beginning by being outrageously indulged by rich parents all the way through being a coddled 'artiste' and told she's the voice of her generation for her navel-gazing while never facing consequences despite revealing to the world her sexual abuse of her little sister, who I think pooned out (related? who knows?).
 
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In her new memoir “Famesick,” Lena Dunham reflects on her hit show “Girls” and the complex relationship she had with co-star Adam Driver both on and off set.


“Girls,” which ran on HBO from 2012 to 2017, starred Dunham as the self-centered yet oddly charming writer Hannah Horvath and Driver as her toxic on-again, off-again boyfriend, also named Adam. According to Dunham’s new memoir, their real-life relationship wasn’t too different.

She then recalls one instance with Driver where he grew frustrated with her for forgetting her lines during rehearsal and alleges he “hurled a chair at the wall next to me.”

“I remember doing a fight scene with Adam and how scary it was to meet someone so totally present with such absence,” she writes. “Late one night, as we practiced lines in my trailer, I found that mine were suddenly gone. I knew I’d written them. I’d known them only minutes before. But when I opened my mouth, all that came out was a stammer — until finally, Adam screamed, ‘FUCKING SAY SOMETHING’ and hurled a chair at the wall next to me. ‘WAKE THE FUCK UP,’ he told me. ‘I’M SICK OF WATCHING YOU JUST STARE.'”

A rep for Driver did not immediately respond to Variety‘s request for comment.

After the chair incident, Dunham says that she “didn’t tell anyone” but “I said my lines correctly after that.” However, during the first season she and Driver still “felt like partners” and continued to rehearse together frequently, though they “fought often.”

“I reasoned that the intensity of his anger at me, anger that could make him spit and throw things, was proportionate to the intensity of our creative connection,” Dunham writes in “Famesick.” “One day in his dressing room, as I apologized for a perceived slight I couldn’t remember committing, he got close to my face and hissed, ‘Never forget that I know you. I really fucking know you.’ ‘What do you know?’ I yelped. ‘You don’t go to parties. You love animals. And you hate being whispered about.’ And he was right.”

As they continued to spend time together on and off set, Dunham admits she “spent an inordinate amount of time wondering if Adam liked me.”

“He could be short-tempered and verbally aggressive, condescending and physically imposing. He could also be protective, loving even,” Dunham writes. Later in the book, she even claims that he once “punched a hole in his trailer wall” because he “hated his new haircut.”

But he was also there for her. During a particularly rough anxiety week for Dunham, she details how Driver came over to her apartment every night to keep her company. One night, he called her to say, “I’m warning you, if I come up, I’m not leaving this time.” But Dunham didn’t let him in.

“I crouched at the window, watching him park his bike, pull out his phone, and dial. But I didn’t answer. It felt as simple as ignoring your doorbell, as pretending to be asleep, as impossible as stopping your blood from flowing,” she writes. “But some part of me knew — some wise part of me, some bold part of me —that if we crossed whatever boundary we were threatening to cross, the return to work would be tinged with humiliation, that I’d be minimizing any authority I still had, and that, however it went, my heart — bruised but improbably not yet broken — would crack.”

She says the two “never spoke about it again,” but when Driver told her he was engaged, she felt “heartbroken.”

“It was absurd to be heartbroken, to have thought I meant anything, that I occupied any role beyond distraction,” she writes. “I was his scene partner, sure — and so when we were in a scene, his attention was piercing, his presence all-consuming. But in life? It would never be me who kept him in line. I didn’t have the chops. Even at work, I couldn’t do it, in the one place I was meant to make the rules.”

Dunham also details filming their last scene together in the final season — the one where their characters break up for good and Adam famously says “good soup.” Although she writes that the two of them “had barely spoken in three years,” they “kept crying” in between takes.

“It felt, for just a moment, like he was saying sorry,” Dunham says. “Maybe I was, too — for never knowing how to manage him, what he needed, how to avoid making his face contort with frustration and rage.”

When filming wrapped, Dunham says Driver told her “I hope you know I’ll always love you” before saying goodbye.

“Who knows — maybe I’d write him new parts. We would tell new stories. We would laugh at the way things had been, and smile at the way they were now,” Dunham writes. “But I never heard from him again.”

“Famesick” is available now at booksellers everywhere.
 
“Who knows — maybe I’d write him new parts. We would tell new stories. We would laugh at the way things had been, and smile at the way they were now,” Dunham writes. “But I never heard from him again.”


Adam Driver's too big now for your drivel, Lena. All I hear about you are announcements of new projects, followed by silence.
 
“I remember doing a fight scene with Adam and how scary it was to meet someone so totally present with such absence,” she writes. “Late one night, as we practiced lines in my trailer, I found that mine were suddenly gone. I knew I’d written them. I’d known them only minutes before. But when I opened my mouth, all that came out was a stammer — until finally, Adam screamed, ‘FUCKING SAY SOMETHING’ and hurled a chair at the wall next to me. ‘WAKE THE FUCK UP,’ he told me. ‘I’M SICK OF WATCHING YOU JUST STARE.'”
Marines fucking rule
 
I think what's really funny here is that Lena forgot her lines when she's the main writer of the show.
 
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