Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.
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We don't. Iranian PTB is being shown to be at complete odds and internally divided, and the stress is getting bad enough the cracks are starting to show publicly. There is a non-zero chance the Civil War starts with government factions attacking each other instead of populace uprising.
What? No no no you can't just have a meeting. That's far too much action for a Eurocrat. You need to first have a subcommitte to review proposals for who should at the meeting. Then have a meeting to go over the proposals, and work out the attendees for the meeting. Then you need to make sure to have another meeting before hand to set the agenda for the meeting.
THEN you can schedule the meeting to begin exploration of the discussion of what might be potential responses.
I think as a deescalation sign of good will and rebuilding relations, the US and Iran should work together to sink british & french shipping in the gulf.
Excuse me sir. I don't think you've been keeping up, but several thousand brown muslims died, and something like nearly 100 jews.
Its progress towards a better world.
lol. We've got a tanker running victory laps in the strait, Iran has cucked on shipping but is still being blockaded. Yes, definitely Trump getting embarrassed.
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Just part and parcel of living in modern cities with Muslims in them.Harakat Ashab al-Yamin al-Islamiya, the Iranian proxy group based in Europe, carried out two additional attacks in the United Kingdom. One targeting Iran International and the other claims to have targeted the Israeli Embassy in the UK, although the footage for that is just them launching a drone, which they claim contained "radioactive material"
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They also claimed to attack a "Center for Zionism" in North Macedonia and a restaurant in Munich.
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This shit right here. Everyone multipolaring themselves raw to "IRGC WINS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM SURVIVE!" really needs to wait until September before you stand on the deck of that sunken Iranian drone ship and declare mission accomplished.
and to be true and honest. Right now, today, Friday April 17 if nothing else changes I'd give the regime 70/30 odds of retaining power in september no matter how spicy the summer gets. But they are going be getting progressively weaker unless they implement massive reforms they seem ill-disposed to implementing.
All we know for certain is that messaging from the Jews, The Shah, and the US has been clear on one matter:
The Iranian people have been told to stay indoors, stay away from military and government targets, and wait. There has been nothing to counter that messaging.
There was reports from Trump we went the Iranian population guns via the Kurds but the kurds kept them. We have absolutely nothing to verify that other than Trump's own statement and lol taking Trump's word as solid truth.
Who knows if there will ever be a "Your moment has come" message. Its not impossible trump pulls a VZ where he leaves an easily controlled puppet running things until the next election.
No one knows what an Iranian revolution might look like. It might be me a massive popular uprising, it might just be 4 small Baloch towns. People are still showing anti-regime statements from their balconies at night, and we're getting kino video of Basij drive-bys so there seems to be a number of people very, very unhappy with the current state of the country.
But it will result in dead muslims so positive development for the world.
Again, Trump doesn't have to do anything but keep Iran under sanctions and let the water riots start back this summer.
Its not just casualty rates. Its WHO those casualties are, its a lot of Iranian leadership getting vaporized and not just low level nose-pickers.
His BROOOOCS NPC programming hasn't been updated since Dubya.
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Come on, Vahidi. Kill the PM, FM, and President, then declare them Mossad spies. You know you wanna.
>implying Cuba hasn't already been conquered
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People like to shit on Monarchy these days, but the Trump Administration has been the single greatest example of the strengths of Monarchy in the modern age. While Europe was busy planning a meeting that will plan how to deal with the issue, Trump just dealt with the issue before the meeting even happened. First western Head of State and Government with total control of a great power military in a hundred years that decides "You know, I can just do stuff."
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As I understand it, the strategy behind missile cities is to send out launchers until the entrances get bombed then when a ceasefire is declared dig out the entrance and prepare to send out more launchers
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It'd be fucking hilarious if the Pakis are just flat-out lying to Trump about what Iran agreed to, as they did back when the ceasefire was first declared.
If another round of in-person negotiations results in them continuing to strong-arm about nukes and shit, I don't think Pakistan will ever recover their Izzat.
If another round of in-person negotiations results in them continuing to strong-arm about nukes and shit, I don't think Pakistan will ever recover their Izzat.
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I don't think you remotely understand the gravity of what has occurred.
1) Iran, the largest state sponsor of terrorism against the US, has been neutered militarily and economically
2) Especially pending the terms of the nuclear deal, we have radically set back a vicious regime from achieving their nuclear ambitions... especially huge considering Iran's spastic attacking of its neighbors aimlessly
3) American military superiority has been demonstrated and proven against Russian and Chinese technology in an active test with a 255:1 death ratio
4) Numerous IRGC leaders, including their divine leader, have been removed... from existence
5) This was done bilaterally with Israel, and active opposition from the rest of the world
This is an overwhelming victory for America and a tremendous geopolitical win largely removing the #2 or #3 biggest enemy to the United States as a major player. Their position in the region is completely gone, having been exposed as a paper tiger rather the biggest bully on the block.
The cost of this was 15 American lives, using military equipment we'd have paid for anyway, and a month of higher gas prices. This is a massive geopolitical win that will reverberate for years to come. I can guarantee you no voter, outside of maybe Iranian immigrants, genuinely gives a shit about Iran's treatment of its people to the point of it influencing their vote for not instituting regime change. The bleeding hearts who are the ones most liable to care, in fact, sided with Iran in this. Add on to this the economic and resource position of Iran together with its leadership and weakened power strongly opens the door for possible eventual regime change.
Nobody thought this possible, and if any President since Reagan had a crystal ball they'd take this outcome 100 times out of 100.
Get the fuck out of here with this "regime change was the only win condition" nonsense. From the jump it was stated that wasn't the goal.
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I don't know if you've noticed but this thread consists of about a dozen Israeli Jews (plus another dozen non-Israeli Jews) furiously circlejerking about how Trump is going to destroy all of their enemies for them, they aren't interesting in talking about whether Trump can restrain Israel.
Netanyahu will do everything in his power to sabotage any deal Trump makes with the Iranians because his life is literally on the line, he's on trial and Israeli elections are this October. The only path that keeps Bibi out of jail is "total victory", or at least an ongoing war that could plausibly result in "total victory". If he gets forced to back down in Lebanon he'll get crushed in the elections and then he'll go directly to prison.
Trump has the power to keep Netanyahu in line but if he actually were willing to exercise that power consistently then we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
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Its honestly more complicated then that. Its a mistake to describe Iran as a unitary State. Its not. Its alot like Lebanon, but where the splits in Lebanon are built on ethnic lines, the splits in Iran are built along organization lines. Iran is not a Nation-State. Its the closest thing we have to a the idea of corprocracy. Rule by corporations. Literally "Night City" from the Cyberpunk series. You have the Mega Corporations. IRGC, Religious Clerics (not the same thing), the National Army, the nominal elected government, the private Land Owners (with their pistachio and olive orchards) and on and on. And even these major groups are not internally unified. For example, the IRGC also owns corporations, land, runs a navy, runs an army, runs an air force, and all of these factions are internally competitive with each other.
The confusion people have with the messaging coming out of iran and even with the negotiations stems entirely from the fact that Iran is not a unified State. Never was. And was in fact deliberately set up to NOT be. Its supporters have crowed about its so called "mosaic defense" where the government of Iran is a Hydra. Cut off one head, two more spawn etc. But the problem with this set up is the various heads of the hydra are as much concerned with biting the other heads as they are the enemies attacking it.
Its also why the "regime change" cope is a cope. How do we define "regime change" in a state where the "regime" is less an organized whole and more an alliance of competing factions. This was never an issue until now because this is the first time the outside world has applied serious force on the Iranian system. Up until two months ago, Iran could pretend to be a single unitary actor under one supreme leader. Now however, the internal chaos is revealed and everyone can see it.
Well, everyone paying attention anyway. Everyone not paying attention assumes the USA is totally losing and its all over.
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You forgot us US military vets with a serious axe to grind with Iran based on personal experience. There is a reason the US Military is quite happily following the Orange Mans orders to push Iran's shit in. The USA is also a nation of institutions. Maybe not as divided as Iran is internally. But as far as the Military Institution is in America, they've wanted to slaughter Persians for awhile now because of what Iran did to it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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You need to read what the deal actually is
The deal is more comprehensive than the 2004 deal. It allows Israel essentially free rein to bomb Hezbollah at anytime and allows it to keep what it's already captured until an unspecified future date. This is why the IDF launched a special operation to capture a strategic point right before the ceasefire.
What Trump is saying with the prohibition thing is not the deal. It's a side thing that he decided by himself and tweeted out.
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I guess if we're using "Israel" and "US" as synonyms, then sure. Saudi Arabia funded the attacks on 9/11, Al-Qaeda, ISIS etc so logically it would be them, but we all know what's going on here.
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I think it's good to help Lebanon disarm Hezbollah. Will Tucker Carlson, the greatest supporter of Lebanese Christians, approve of this?! I can't rest well if Tucker Carlson doesn't approve of this!
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"you have to use our routes" they say like there aren't just cruise ships rolling through the normal routes just fine right now
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>yo dawg!
>i heard you put up a blockade so i blockaded your blockade so i could block any aid coming to your country of aids and keep making your buildings blocks with air raids
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Strictly in Omani Territorial waters.
Iran has run into the flaw in their magical incantations about "international law" that they spew like the Demons in that Frieren Anime. Iran doesnt give a shit about international law. They are just amazed how when they say the words they dont understand, the people they prey upon suddenly do what they want so they can kill and eat them.
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damn i thought cruise ships are just boomers drinking and gambling?
if i knew they offered awesome experiences like blockade running in hot war zones i'd have signed the fuck up for one months ago!
imagine the tour guide being like
>to the left you can see a US guided missile destroyer!
>and if you use your binoculars, there's two iranian speedboats visible to our right!
>don't miss tonights chinese buffet and all you can drink caipirinha experience at the food court!
>three shahed drones on route to dubai can be seen passing over us! for just $400 you can access the upper decks and watch our air defense crew launch stinger missiles at them!