Russell Greer vs. Viatron Corporation, A-26-937678-C

[Dropa5pack]

All he would need to do is make it part of the record in this case and that makes it usable in the other to the extent that it is relevant. Hardin recently did this in the counterclaim where he pointed to the record in Greer's eviction case to show that he was lying about his address. There will be some things that he learns where he wouldn't be able to do this as they have no relevance to this case, but just knowing that information would make it significantly easier for him to determine how to properly introduce it in Greer v. Moon if it were relevant there.

Even if it's not useful, Hardin may still want to put as much as he can get away with into the record just to salt the earth. Even if it doesn't help him in Greer v. Moon, Russ will file additional lawsuits in the future. Having as much in the public record as possible that makes it difficult for Greer to get anywhere with those lawsuits or that shows a history of lies, bad faith actions, etc. on Greer's part will make it that much easier to swat down his litigious harassment in the years ahead. If Greer tries pulling any of the same shit he's done in Greer v. Moon, expect Hardin to point to the record from that case showing that Russ has been sanctioned numerous times for improper behavior.

It will make it easier for Mr. Hardin in the future when others hire him to oppose the brothel Prince. I see Hardin making a career just specializing in opposing Greee’s frivolous filings. It’s quite brilliant. Drooly sues X, and Hardin is hired everywhere Rusty goes. He thinks the trauma lumps are bad now. Just wait.

 

[Commander Suzdal]

unlike a service animal, those are unregulated. In my region every single grocery store has a sign up that says "no you can't bring your fucking great dane into the store, if you have a registered and trained service animal they're allowed."

Spoiler: Service dog law spergery

I don't know where you are, but it sounds like the US because you mention the ADA. In the US, there is no registry for service animals. There is no such thing as a "registered service animal". There is no limitation on what breeds of dogs can be service animals.

Here is the exact wording from the ADA website:

"Service animals are defined as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. Examples of such work or tasks include guiding people who are blind, alerting people who are deaf, pulling a wheelchair, alerting and protecting a person who is having a seizure, reminding a person with mental illness to take prescribed medications, calming a person with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) during an anxiety attack, or performing other duties. Service animals are working animals, not pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must be directly related to the person’s disability. "

(The page also mentions, later, that miniature horses can also be service animals, but let's not even get into that.)

You can train - or "train" - your own service dog to your own satisfaction. The dog is not required to complete any sort of regulated training program. It is not required to demonstrate any training to anyone. It's required to perform a service related to a disability, but the law does not allow any way of confirming that it actually does.

Under the ADA, there are two and only two reasons to eject a service dog, and "is a Great Dane" or "isn't a registered service animal" aren't among them.

"A person with a disability cannot be asked to remove his service animal from the premises unless: (1) the dog is out of control and the handler does not take effective action to control it or (2) the dog is not housebroken. When there is a legitimate reason to ask that a service animal be removed, staff must offer the person with the disability the opportunity to obtain goods or services without the animal’s presence."

As for those grocery store signs, here's what the ADA website tells businesses: "When it is not obvious what service an animal provides, only limited inquiries are allowed. Staff may ask two questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability, and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform. Staff cannot ask about the person’s disability, require medical documentation, require a special identification card or training documentation for the dog, or ask that the dog demonstrate its ability to perform the work or task." Any store saying animals must be "registered" is making a mistake, and potentially a very expensive one.

 

[a hapless toad]

(The page also mentions, later, that miniature horses can also be service animals, but let's not even get into that.)

If you are interested in getting into that, go to the Munchie thread and search for 'flirty' or 'service horse'.

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🤝 Community Thread 'Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc)'

Jan 21, 2015

[OP provided by @Kate Farms Shill, @Feline Darkmage, @MunchOff, and @Ellesse_warrior. Thank you! ]

The Basics:
Munchausen's Syndrome is a psychiatric disorder listed in the DSM. The disease causes the sufferer to draw attention or reassurance to themselves (whether this effort is conscious or not on the part of the sufferer is still debatable). It is named after the fictional character (who was loosely based on a real person) Baron Munchausen, who would frequently tell tall tales of his own struggles in life.

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[Random Troll]

I don't know where you are, but it sounds like the US because you mention the ADA. In the US, there is no registry for service animals. There is no such thing as a "registered service animal". There is no limitation on what breeds of dogs can be service animals.

Fucking hell, you really can't keep the nutters out of your shop these days. Let me guess, a sign saying "no niggers" isn't allowed too? This world has gone totally crazy.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Fucking hell, you really can't keep the nutters out of your shop these days. Let me guess, a sign saying "no niggers" isn't allowed too? This world has gone totally crazy.

The key is that 90% of these fucks don't know the details of the law, so asking them (2) (what the fuck it does) gets them confused and they leave. Documenting (1) and (2) is also pretty easy (all the stores near here with the ban mention the dogs pissing and shitting on merchandise).

The 10% who know the law and are sue-happy; well they're fucking high-strung asshole trannies and you can provoke them to assault in view of the cameras without ever saying anything illegal or even naughty.

it is also not against the ADA to have the biggest burliest nigger you got in the stock room follow them around to "offer the person with the disability the opportunity to obtain goods or services" continually.

If you don't know how to discourage a customer, you probably shouldn't be in business.

 

[Commander Suzdal]

The 10% who know the law and are sue-happy; well they're fucking high-strung asshole trannies and you can provoke them to assault in view of the cameras without ever saying anything illegal or even naughty.

In the munchie thread, we regularly see girls deliberately provoking businesses with behavior that's legal but doesn't look like it, like going in with an unleashed dog with no service dog vest. (Normies assume service dogs have to have both, but neither one is required.) The munchies are already filming and pop the clip up on TikTok to get asspats for being a poor mistreated sick girl. I don't know of any of these ending up in court, but if they did, the munchie would be completely in the legal right, and the businesses would be wrong. (So perhaps they're not sue-happy, but a viral clip of "Your Business illegally discriminates against cute life-saving dog" isn't good for you either.)

You mentioned people who don't know the law. One munchie thread contributor had some stories about how a homeless shelter she worked in handled that colorful category of fake service dog owners.

In the homeless shelter we had multiple people try to claim pitbulls as service dogs. Yes always pitbulls. It was communal sleeping with lots of bunk beds in one room. First off, since it wasn't a private living situation, the dog would have to stay with the owner 24/7, could never be left alone in the shelter or we would automatically call animal control for it to be removed. This alone deterred quite a few people. Second, to have a pitbull it needs room to lay down, and it can't lay in the aisles between beds because that's a fire hazard. So we only had one bed with enough room to accommodate a dog. And wouldn't you know! It was full.
Also several people would get caught by saying, "It's a service dog because it's a protection/guard dog." That's like, the one thing it legally can't be dummy.
People would bring ESA letters all the time to "prove it's a service animal" and they would get soooo mad when I would say they were not the same thing.

We still had to allow the people with pitbulls to eat meals inside, but almost universally they would bark or growl at people, and at the first documentable sign of aggression like that, we'd say oops sorry you can't be inside with the dog. We would again offer to just bring their meal to the door and they could have it there, but almost always the person would get so pissed off we'd never see them again.

We had a good HR person because desperate poor people are extremely eager to find some wrongdoing they can sue over. For instance if we said, "No I won't let a pitbull be a service dog and we don't recognize service dogs" they could probably try something. But "We are unable to accommodate a service animal due to limited floor space in a shared dormitory, and provided alternative accommodations to the best of our capacity" is a lot better.

To bring this back around to Greer, he should get a service dog because he has a disability (he's retarded) and the dog could be trained to perform a service related to his disability (biting him on the dick every time he files a lawsuit).

 

[3-2-1836]

The dog could be trained to perform a service related to his disability (biting him on the dick every time he files a lawsuit).

Hey how dare you suggest he get a service dog that will suck him his penis for filing suit.

He'll file 10 lawsuits a month at that rate.

 

[Maraschino]

It will make it easier for Mr. Hardin in the future when others hire him to oppose the brothel Prince. I see Hardin making a career just specializing in opposing Greee’s frivolous filings.

Some attorneys take up weightlifting as a hobby. Some learn to cook. Some learn about trains. Hardin slaps Greer.

It's probably relaxing for him to do shit like this, if the reports from Sean when he talks to Hardin about Hardin laughing his ass off at the filings are anything to go off of.

It could be a lot worse. Hardin could've gotten into cocaine and swinging.

This barrier business all sounds very suspicious. I'm not completely ignorant of ADA workplace requirements for accommodation, but I've never heard of such a thing as a barrier being placed to keep someone from being laughed at by normies. Can you imagine the uproar if the *company* put up a barrier to keep the normies from having their eyes assaulted by Greee's face?

All the talk about the barrier Greer was using actually made me wonder if said barrier was even something he could legally use, presumably privacy barriers could just be purchased at low cost since it's just a fucking barrier. Whatever Greer made could've been a fire hazard for all we know, in which case, do you keep it up and risk legal action/fines, or take it down (because you have no idea it's even related to his face, which idk how a barrier helps with a paralyzed face) and inadvertently get sued.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Whatever Greer made could've been a fire hazard for all we know, in which case, do you keep it up and risk legal action/fines, or take it down (because you have no idea it's even related to his face, which idk how a barrier helps with a paralyzed face) and inadvertently get sued.

I want this shit to go to trial or far enough into discovery that we get a picture of this abomination. I've 100€ on it being hella worse than anything we've come up with.

 

[3-2-1836]

If Greee doesn't acknowledge the existence of Hardin in this case by tomorrow I'm just going to assume he thought he won the case when he waddled out of the courtroom and is completely ignoring it now.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

If Greee doesn't acknowledge the existence of Hardin in this case by tomorrow I'm just going to assume he thought he won the case when he waddled out of the courtroom and is completely ignoring it now.

IDK. How would he get the check when he has no address for them to send it to?

Or does he expect Viatroon to put the money in a suitcase and knock on his car window?

I'd love it if they sent the check to his old address for this lawsuit, and his ex-landlord forged his signature and cashed it at some shady ass place just for the amount of back rent he was owed and told the guy at the check cashing place to keep the rest.

"We sent the check to the address you have on file with the court for this lawsuit, didn't you get it?"

 

[The Garden]

IDK. How would he get the check when he has no address for them to send it to?

Or does he expect Viatroon to put the money in a suitcase and knock on his car window?

I'd love it if they sent the check to his old address for this lawsuit, and his ex-landlord forged his signature and cashed it at some shady ass place.

Direct deposit, obviously. He's probably hiding from the cameras at his local gym obsessively refreshing his bank page as we speak.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

He's probably hiding from the cameras at his local gym

 

[Napoleon III]

If Greee doesn't acknowledge the existence of Hardin in this case by tomorrow I'm just going to assume he thought he won the case when he waddled out of the courtroom and is completely ignoring it now.

its entirely possible Greer either didn't see the email that has the filing of the change of counsel or he saw it and didn't realize it was changing to Hardin. It's one of those procedural things you might ignore if you are an absolute retard and you are laser focused on the thing you think will win you a lot of money. Which is exactly the sort of person Russell Greer is.

 

[obsdj]

its entirely possible Greer either didn't see the email that has the filing of the change of counsel or he saw it and didn't realize it was changing to Hardin. It's one of those procedural things you might ignore if you are an absolute retard and you are laser focused on the thing you think will win you a lot of money. Which is exactly the sort of person Russell Greer is.

I think it's very likely that Hardin is directly corresponding with Greer behind the scenes on this, though we won't hear about it until Greer inevitably files some sort of objection with the NV court trying to get Hardin removed. I don't think Greer could resist the temptation to exchange emails with that little girl lawyer who was previously opposing counsel, prepping for the settlement conference dontcha know. There has to have been some correspondence by now in which he was informed that actually, Mr. Hardin (CC'd) is holding the reins going forward, please direct all future communications to him, and have the day you deserve, best regards.

If we are very lucky we'll get to see this correspondence.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I think it's very likely that Hardin is directly corresponding with Greer behind the scenes on this, though we won't hear about it until Greer inevitably files some sort of objection with the NV court trying to get Hardin removed. I don't think Greer could resist the temptation to exchange emails with that little girl lawyer who was previously opposing counsel, prepping for the settlement conference dontcha know. There has to have been some correspondence by now in which he was informed that actually, Mr. Hardin (CC'd) is holding the reins going forward, please direct all future communications to him, and have the day you deserve, best regards.

If we are very lucky we'll get to see this correspondence.

I thought he was scared of corresponding with Hardin (I believe he has declared such previously in Greee Vs. Kiwifarms, a website).

 

[Maraschino]

If Greee doesn't acknowledge the existence of Hardin in this case by tomorrow I'm just going to assume he thought he won the case when he waddled out of the courtroom and is completely ignoring it now.

its entirely possible Greer either didn't see the email that has the filing of the change of counsel or he saw it and didn't realize it was changing to Hardin. It's one of those procedural things you might ignore if you are an absolute retard and you are laser focused on the thing you think will win you a lot of money. Which is exactly the sort of person Russell Greer is.

Greer is such a negligent retard I think it's more likely than not he doesn't even know Hardin is involved yet. It would be great to see how he responds in the Viatron case just to see Hardin respond to him again, and he ignores it because he thinks it's just a goof that Hardin is playing mind games with him (which I think a Nevada judge won't accept as an excuse).

What I really, really want to see is his spazzing out in court if he gets to meet the stalker lawyer in court. I don't think it's likely but it sounds fucking hilarious. You would be able to feel Hardin's shit-eating grin through the vacuum of space.

 

[AngeloTheWizard]

I thought he was scared of corresponding with Hardin (I believe he has declared such previously in Greee Vs. Kiwifarms, a website).

Let's be real, he says that for sympathy points as he lies to get Hardin disbarred. This would not endear you to anyone, they would consider you a little bitch, but in Russell's mind he thinks pointing at the *defense* and saying "bully!" means that people take pity on him.

Looks at the judges in Greer v. Moon Okay, maybe it does.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

Greer is such a negligent retard I think it's more likely than not he doesn't even know Hardin is involved yet. It would be great to see how he responds in the Viatron case just to see Hardin respond to him again, and he ignores it because he thinks it's just a goof that Hardin is playing mind games with him (which I think a Nevada judge won't accept as an excuse).

What I really, really want to see is his spazzing out in court if he gets to meet the stalker lawyer in court. I don't think it's likely but it sounds fucking hilarious. You would be able to feel Hardin's shit-eating grin through the vacuum of space.

Once Greee finds out that he has to deal with the Hardship again, he’ll be covered in so many trauma lumps he’ll look like some abomination from the Garbage Pail Kids… well, more than he already does.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

I thought he was scared of corresponding with Hardin (I believe he has declared such previously in Greee Vs. Kiwifarms, a website).

let me make a prediction: russhole is in complete denial that hardin has been able to take over viatrons defense and he will shit and piss and cry about it while refusing to discuss the case because its somehow none of hardins business, and the "real" viatron attorney is still somewhere out there and greer will only speak to him.