Russell Greer vs. Viatron Corporation, A-26-937678-C

[AnOminous]

Both parties retaining separate counsel to enforce the judgements would be enough to avoid a conflict of interest, right?

Yes. The previous lawyer couldn't represent either party if the conflict ripens.

As Images.

Greee will probably oppose it (and lose).

 

[Stella d'Oro]

Realistically, the only things of value Greer does possess is his copyrights.

It's a huge maybe and based on taking Greer's statements at face value (lol) but the car could be up for grabs if he has more than $15,000 of equity in it.

 

[DavidS877]

It's a huge maybe and based on taking Greer's statements at face value (lol) but the car could be up for grabs if he has more than $15,000 of equity in it.

Can you imagine the decontamination costs. You'd have to pull all the external parts off (battery, wheels, motors) and just crush the rest.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

“US Customs has held your shipment”
“My husband has died and left all of his millions to you”
“I have all of your personal photos and unless you send me eleven billion bitcoin I’ll publish them”

Oh, who am I kidding. Russ would absolutely fall for any of these scams. (Not to mention Hardin would never because ethics)

One Stupid Trick To Guarantee Greeee Reads The E-Mail You Sent:

"I got the dollar you sent me through Venmo after seeing me on Instagram and couldn't resist e-mailing you!"

 

[Irene and 22 others]

Yes, but in that list of other District courts, most of them say "No bar # issued," doesn't that mean he was only PHV in those courts too? Wouldn't they have issued him a bar # if he had been fully admitted to those courts?

Some states will admit lawyers to practice if they're already admitted in some other state. Those states may not issue a bar number in such cases in order to distinguish between lawyers who passed the bar in that state and those who are admitted to practice because they passed the bar in some other state. It may be something else and some of the posters who practice law could likely speak more to this.

I don't think "I didn't read my emails, here's the proof" is going to be excusable neglect. He's an adult (allegedly), he's responsible for his own shit. He is responsible for yet another lawsuit HE INITIATED. NOT Hardin, not Viatron, and not the court.

Tell that to a pair of judges in Utah who guarded the tard for exactly that reason and have continued to ignore Greer not paying attention to his emails since then. This isn't a joke. Greer submitted an exhibit of a screenshot showing unread emails from the court and the judges just shrugged and told him not to do it again even though they had warned him about it before.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I believe both parties are aware they're unlikely to get paid in full and have come to an agreement. It only becomes a full blown conflict of interest if both parties win and then want to fight over it.

The conflict I'm proposing is that Hardin could help Null by losing the ViaTRON case because a $220,000 windfall for Russell is the only way he'd ever have money to seize to make Null whole, which would also mean the money going to Hardin for Null's legal fees

Not that I think Hardin would ever do that or that Null would ever want Russell to win

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Aren't those entirely optional in that a receiver can decline to send the receipt even if they've opened the email and read it? Even if the client didn't provide a user the option not to provide a receipt, there's nothing stopping someone from taking the device off the network before opening an email so that it can be read without the ability to send a receipt. Fax machines might be legally suitable, but they aren't as widely used as they once were. Email is more convenient and most lawyers aren't dickwads that don't read their emails or respond to requests from other attorneys; and most courts wouldn't put up with such shenanigans as seen from Greer either. It's never enough of a problem that it needed detailed legal codes in the first place.

When you are talking about downloading and opening, you are thinking of a managed mail service with its own server. The act of downloading is enough to trigger a "receipt" most times, because the act of downloading triggers the function, not the opening of the e-mail.

However, a managed e-mail service isn't how most people have e-mail. Most people use HTML e-mail that retrieves the mail in real time, so the only way to access it is to read it.

Regardless, most e-mail receipt triggers that are not service specific these days are done using transparent pixels that are downloaded in a managed mail settings, or loaded when the e-mail is opened in HTML e-mail. They are strictly meant to trigger a read notice since the only reason they are downloaded/loaded is if the e-mail is accessed, they are single purpose, unique pixels that are automatically generated for each e-mail sent. The only way to avoid such "read" receipt triggers these days is to allow only UTF-8 text to load in an e-mail and nothing else. Of course, since most e-mails these days are formatted in HTML, the message will look quite screwed up since the HTML will be read as text and not rendered. But, it is literally the only way to avoid being tracked.

 

[Random Troll]

However, a managed e-mail service isn't how most people have e-mail. Most people use HTML e-mail that retrieves the mail in real time, so the only way to access it is to read it.

Regardless, most e-mail receipt triggers that are not service specific these days are done using transparent pixels that are downloaded in a managed mail settings, or loaded when the e-mail is opened in HTML e-mail. They are strictly meant to trigger a read notice since the only reason they are downloaded/loaded is if the e-mail is accessed, they are single purpose, unique pixels that are automatically generated for each e-mail sent. The only way to avoid such "read" receipt triggers these days is to allow only UTF-8 text to load in an e-mail and nothing else. Of course, since most e-mails these days are formatted in HTML, the message will look quite screwed up since the HTML will be read as text and not rendered. But, it is literally the only way to avoid being tracked.

With a proper emailer (thunderbird) one can set it to properly display html content but not use remote content. The spam folder for my normal email address (web-based) also blocks remote content.
But indeed, it's one thing that wasn't a big thing some 10 to 15 years ago.

I used to manage a shitty installation of exchange 2003. I inherited that crap, and cludged two VMs around it. One ingoing postfix wtih spam filters, one outgoing postfix with dkim shizzle. I'm quite happy to have been relieved of that particular piece of shite.

 

[obsdj]

Some states will admit lawyers to practice if they're already admitted in some other state. Those states may not issue a bar number in such cases in order to distinguish between lawyers who passed the bar in that state and those who are admitted to practice because they passed the bar in some other state. It may be something else and some of the posters who practice law could likely speak more to this.

That may be true for state courts but these are federal District Courts -- I think he's only PHV in those courts where no bar # was assigned, but yeah someone else may better be able to confirm. If that's the case, I do wonder why he left Utah off the list, especially under the circumstances.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

Rekeita, before he melted his brains.

Is that the new "Shaka, when the walls fell."?

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

With a proper emailer (thunderbird) one can set it to properly display html content but not use remote content. The spam folder for my normal email address (web-based) also blocks remote content.
But indeed, it's one thing that wasn't a big thing some 10 to 15 years ago.

I used to manage a shitty installation of exchange 2003. I inherited that crap, and cludged two VMs around it. One ingoing postfix wtih spam filters, one outgoing postfix with dkim shizzle. I'm quite happy to have been relieved of that particular piece of shite.

I would imagine the number of people outside of a corporate setting with a properly configured dedicated emailer is just vanishingly small, and perfectly dominated by IT people.

 

[The Un-Clit]

Is that the new "Shaka, when the walls fell."?

That ep always bugged me. A race that only spoke in metaphor, yet understood Picard's regular speaking? Bah! "Russtard knows himself beloved of whores!"

 

[Random Troll]

I would imagine the number of people outside of a corporate setting with a properly configured dedicated emailer is just vanishingly small, and perfectly dominated by IT people.

That's unfortunately true. Except for the few people that I provide services for that don't want to use webmail or don't know how to. I use an open source tool to deploy updates and settings to people, mainly friends and family. Unfortunately I'm now running into the issue of some of my users passing away due to age or cancer or other crap. The core2 quad q6600 may survive the sweet 83-year old lady it's currently working for.

Aww, I'm going off-topic. (again)
But that thing about online security is something that will never change. And outside it might be even "worse", with all those cameras everywhere. I've also once thought about manufacturing a particular type of recreational drug.
Would I be able to keep my trap shut, even when I'm shitfaced drunk? Probably not. Would I risk my freedom on not being found out? Uhhh no, so let's not do that.
And then I read about some idiot running a cp site on tor, which still had his original IP address in the source of the webpage...

Of course this is not applicable to mr greeviance.

 

[It's Never Leprosy]

The kind of news story that usually ends with "before turning the gun on himself," but in our case it just ends with "litigation remains ongoing."

I thought I knew what edging was. Then I discovered this interminable wait for him to acknowledge looping in Hardin. I might explode?

It's never enough of a problem that it needed detailed legal codes in the first place.

It's like that dumbass in high school that was responsible for that really weird rule that never had to be spelled out until he came along because nobody was stupid enough to do it before him.

 

[HackerX]

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Ya know, there's been some discussion on how Hardin made himself known to Viatron, but just imagine being in there shoes.

Geoff's secretary:
"Hey Geoff. There's a Matthew Hardin on line 2. He claims to be a lawyer who specializes in Russell Greer."

Geoff thinking to himself: "Specializes in Russell Greer? What the?"

<Hardin sends his Geoff his Russ litigation history.>

Hardin: "I have a particular set of skills."

Geoff: "Lol"

Hardin: "Lol"

Geoff's secretary sneakily listening in on the hot goss: "Lol"

Geoff thinking to himself once more: "Well I'll be damned. This man, much like regular rent payments and brothel ownership, is Russ's kryptonite."

Geoff: "You're hired!"

Hardin can email Greer all he wants, but he can't make Greer read those emails. Even if Russ does decide to open one, there's a good chance that he confuses it as being related to Greer v. Moon and still fails to realize what's happened. Hardin has shown a few email exhibits in Greer v. Moon where he's been trying to contact Russ for several weeks or months regarding some matter without any response. That doesn't prove that Greer wasn't reading those emails, but Greer himself has submitted exhibits showing unread email (which could be easily fabricated) so until something hits the docket there's no real way to know.

Fun thought. Could Hardin get one of those judges who dish out unconventional punishment? (Yeah yeah yeah, I know those don't generally have sound legal standing, nor apply to civil cases, but work with me here.)

As a sanction against Russ, Hardin gets to watch over his shoulder, forcing Russ to go through and read every email? Ofc, this would need to be streamed.

Yes. Local counsel is some guy named Stewart Harman who has been almost entirely silent.

He's just sitting back and enjoying the show, IMO.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

That ep always bugged me. A race that only spoke in metaphor, yet understood Picard's regular speaking? Bah! "Russtard knows himself beloved of whores!"

Russell, his mouth open. Prostitutes, their legs closed.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Once Greee finds out that he has to deal with the Hardship again, he’ll be covered in so many trauma lumps he’ll look like some abomination from the Garbage Pail Kids…

Fussy Russy?

On a more serious note, I almost wonder if RG has stretched himself too thin with three different pro se lawsuits going concurrently. There's no possible way he can keep up with everything when he'd consistently failed to manage his GvM email when it was the only suit on his docket.

Regardless, the possible meltdown associated with his discovering Hardin is now working with ViaTron would be epic.

Aren't those entirely optional in that a receiver can decline to send the receipt even if they've opened the email and read it? Even if the client didn't provide a user the option not to provide a receipt, there's nothing stopping someone from taking the device off the network before opening an email so that it can be read without the ability to send a receipt

I don't know how true it is, but I once heard receipts can be thwarted by forwarding the message to one's self before reading it. I also think certain email clients may even ask if the receipt should be sent if not blocking it outright. The tracking pixels mentioned by @Prokhor Zakharov seem to be more of a thing as they appear frequently in commercial mail and spam to track who opened them -- and why some email clients will even block those as well.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

Realistically, the only things of value Greer does possess is his copyrights. Which are functionally worthless. They only have value to the Kiwifarms and its users specifically as an oddity, which would allow Null to republish the books with a foreword raging about copyright and selling hard cover copies of it as merch to the users of the website. Beyond that they have no monetary value, made worse by the fact the Alphabet Corporation, through its subsidiary Google LLC continues to publish a free copy of Greers book for anyone with a google account to download.

Imagine how great the book could be if we had a thread in which Kiwis made illustrations for it. We could all vote on which illustrations make the cut. Shit would be fire.

The cover art should definitely depict a disheveled, drooling Greer fleeing an oversized Kiwi bird with demonic red eyes and fangs, through a field of kiwi vines that are grasping at his ankles, while Taylor Swift looks down on him through the clouds, laughing smugly.

 

[Billy Beeple]

Regardless, most e-mail receipt triggers that are not service specific these days are done using transparent pixels that are downloaded in a managed mail settings, or loaded when the e-mail is opened in HTML e-mail. They are strictly meant to trigger a read notice since the only reason they are downloaded/loaded is if the e-mail is accessed, they are single purpose, unique pixels that are automatically generated for each e-mail sent. The only way to avoid such "read" receipt triggers these days is to allow only UTF-8 text to load in an e-mail and nothing else. Of course, since most e-mails these days are formatted in HTML, the message will look quite screwed up since the HTML will be read as text and not rendered. But, it is literally the only way to avoid being tracked.

This is straying off-topic, but...

Gmail downloads all of the links in the message when it is delivered (and scans them for malware). So tracking pixels will show "read" even if the message was never opened.

Those downloads are cached & proxied, so if the message was sent to multiple recipients, the tracking pixel will only show the initial delivery, not how many people opened it (if any did).

This makes them mostly useless, since they don't tell you anything the delivery logs don't already .

 

[3-2-1836]

This is straying off-topic, but...

Gmail downloads all of the links in the message when it is delivered (and scans them for malware). So tracking pixels will show "read" even if the message was never opened.

Those downloads are cached & proxied, so if the message was sent to multiple recipients, the tracking pixel will only show the initial delivery, not how many people opened it (if any did).

This makes them mostly useless, since they don't tell you anything the delivery logs don't already .

I always wondered what the fuck those random empty .pngs on some of my emails I get from clients (Government entities) were.