Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

Guys Israel isn’t guilty of any human trafficking. It isn’t like mossad bank rolled Epstein or anything

 

[MrJokerRager]

They'll rebuild in time.

Israel will never rebuild its reputation with young Americans.

 

[AltisticRight]

Nigga are you serious? The marriage age in Israel is 18 and they have the Nordic model for prostitution. Meanwhile Iran allows temporary marriages lasting an hour with the minimum age being 13.

You're actually defending iran's child prostitution by going muh Israel

Yeah and your country protects paedophiles. Child molesting Jews would literally do a Shivat Zion to abuse your ridiculous extradition laws. It's not just child rapists, it's every kind of criminal as long as they're Jewish.

Have to be brain damaged to think there's any sort of comparison between Israel which actively works against human trafficking and makes it illegal versus iran who essentially legalizes it.

https://iran-hrm.com/2025/07/31/hum...ren-under-irgc-control-a-state-stamped-crime/

Iran is a theocracy following Shariah law.
Israel has no reason to protect criminal Jews and force their gentile allies to go through extraordinary judicial hoops for extradition.
On average Iranian women marry at the age of 25.

Mentioning this backwards marriage practice is like mentioning infant penis sucking rabbis and claiming all Jews support that. I know most Jews don't support that shit.
I love how you use these backwards religious rules when it comes to smearing the goyim yet you sperg and seethe when someone mentions metzitzah b'peh.

According to the CDC, around 3000 boys each year undergoes metzizah b'peh each year in NYC.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/orthodox-jews-de-blasio-administration-in-talks-over-circumcision-ritual-after-herpes-cases/

Around 100,000 are born in NYC each year with 50,000 expected to be boys. 12% of NYC is Jewish, so that's 6,000 Jewish baby boys.
AND HOLY SHIT THIS MEANS HALF OF THEM GETS THEIR PENIS SUCKED BY RABBI.

Here's Iran and their child marriage prevelance.

https://iranwire.com/en/society/102678-official-statistics-one-fifth-of-all-marriages-in-iran-are-child-marriages/

More than 1,077,000 female child marriages have been registered in Iran in the last eight years, including 13,500 involving girls under the age of 13, with an untold number more taking place off the books.

The pot that sucks baby penis is calling the kettle that marries children a paedophile.

 

[FatWhiteGuy]

Guys Israel isn’t guilty of any human trafficking. It isn’t like mossad bank rolled Epstein or anything

This is what gets me, it's one thing to drag the goys into another meat grinder, but hot off the heels of it being exposed that they were running a child trafficking honey pot on top of it. Any other group would have the self awareness, and self preservation to understand how that's a really bad idea.

 

[AltisticRight]

Haredi men rarely wear either of those

Yeah but their knitted kippa doesn't look like that

Drinking is normal, eating pork is bullshit. It takes extra effort to get pork and for what reason would they eat it?

Good grief are you ESL? He was clearly referring to subhuman West Bank settlers and the way they dress and behave. He's not claiming that guy is a haredim.
Are you dim or you're intentionally misunderstanding the point so you can look smart?

What the fuck does thinking like the third world even mean? The third world referred to countries that are neutral during the cold war.
If you are using it as a descrininatory pajorative to define poorer countries as if America isn't just Brazil with lots of money, then fine. Guess what's peak third worldist? Believing in the notion of collective punishment. Both zionists and Palestinian nationalists believe in the concept of collective punishment, which is as savage and backwards as it humanly gets. It's not even a human concept, it's animalistic.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Guys Israel isn’t guilty of any human trafficking. It isn’t like mossad bank rolled Epstein or anything

Saar the Epstein empire will never defeat brics

No evidence that was Mossad was ever involved, you probably believe trump raped and ate babies too

Yeah and your country protects paedophiles. Child molesting Jews would literally do a Shivat Zion to abuse your ridiculous extradition laws. It's not just child rapists, it's every kind of criminal as long as they're Jewish.

Says the guy from the country that had malka leifer extradited back to face justice for her crimes

On average Iranian women marry at the age of 25.

You have no idea what you're talking about, nikka mutah is different from normal marriage.

According to the CDC, around 3000 boys each year undergoes metzizah b'peh each year in NYC.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/orthodox-jews-de-blasio-administration-in-talks-over-circumcision-ritual-after-herpes-cases/ Around 100,000 are born in NYC each year with 50,000 expected to be boys. 12% of NYC is Jewish, so that's 6,000 Jewish baby boys.
AND HOLY SHIT THIS MEANS HALF OF THEM GETS THEIR PENIS SUCKED BY RABBI.

Here's Iran and their child marriage prevelance.
https://iranwire.com/en/society/102678-official-statistics-one-fifth-of-all-marriages-in-iran-are-child-marriages/
The pot that sucks baby penis is calling the kettle that marries children a paedophile.

I am amazed at this level of stupidity.

You want to compare a fringe practice that only the hasidim practice (invalidating your stupid mathematics where somehow the whole Jewish population of NYC is Hasidic) and that I have personally condemned to the widespread practice of child marriage in Iran?

Why would you ever think it would help you to mention that pedophilia is so common in Iran that 1 in 5 marriages involve it?

The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child considers anyone under the age of 18 to be a child. Iran has yet to ratify the convention, while Article 1041 of the country’s Civil Code allows for the marriage of girls under the age of 13, with the “consent of the guardian” and the “expediency” of a judge.

This article admits that they cannot even track the amount of child marriages off the books and describes them as countless.

Why would you think this is a good argument?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Good grief are you ESL? He was clearly referring to subhuman West Bank settlers and the way they dress and behave. He's not claiming that guy is a haredim.
Are you dim or you're intentionally misunderstanding the point so you can look smart?

The West Bank settlers that act this way harassing are Haredim, most specifically hilltop youth. Is it too much to ask you to do some background research before claiming that I'm wrong?

What the fuck does thinking like the third world even mean? The third world referred to countries that are neutral during the cold war.
If you are using it as a descrininatory pajorative to define poorer countries as if America isn't just Brazil with lots of money, then fine.

Googling third worldism is too hard for you. It's advocating for a multipolar world where the United States isn't the reigning power and third world powers are able to claim relevancy on a global level.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Look at these states that coddled BLM but went absolutely ape shit over college students who weren’t being violent. Look at DeSantis enacting hate speech laws.

That was the original thing that drove me berserk over Israel. I despised the Chinese for using their money to control American speech and then suddenly overnight the Republicans were doing that a million times worse.

you’re not going to get these parasites out through democratic means and there’s no reason to let them hole up in their homeland either.

 

[AssignedEva]

The standoff munition stocks in the Middle East are mostly gone yes. The Pacific theater stocks will be gone too if the shooting starts back up. But they've been used to tard bomb mountain fortresses, which are impervious to even nuclear weapons. Europe is not fortified at all. Every piece of critical and military infrastructure is in the open and vulnerable. Europe can't facetank even a fraction of what Iran can. Europeans are also far to casualty averse to want to risk America double tapping schools and hospitals. There is also the fact that the US can turn off many of their weapon systems, namely the F-35.

You have tactical brain. Tactical victories are not the primary importance in war, they are tools to achieve actual strategic victory.

Let's say Israel bombs Turkey, and Europe bombs Israel. The US now enters the theatre of war and prepares to bomb Europe. What's the win condition? Is it bombing Europe until they agree to stop bombing Israel?

How do you think this plays domestically? Do you think most Americans would rather the US side with Europe, or Israel?

How would it play if US boots are on the ground in Europe, killing Europeans that look like White Americans, because Israel faced consequences for doing something bad? How would it play if the military cack-hands another missile and hits the Eiffel Tower or the Colosseum or Big Ben?

How would it play when the US suddenly experiences international sanctions that put the Great Depression to shame, because the US sided with Israel over Europe defending a NATO ally? There's poor support in the US for the Iran war, and Iran literally chants Death To America, and a big part of that is because Americans want to put America first instead of burning dollars on the pyre of the Zionist project.

It doesn't really matter if you think America can flatten London, Paris, Rome, Madrid, whatever... it's America setting itself on fire to keep Israel warm. This scenario (the US bombing Europe because Israel got punished for attacking Turkey) is never going to happen. "LOL yeah we'd totally pwn you with an amazing K/D ratio" I don't care, you're not going to, because real life isn't CoD.

Maybe let the adults discuss Iran in this thread and take your crayons back to USPG2.

Have to be brain damaged to think there's any sort of comparison between Israel... versus iran

Honestly? I think Israel outside of Tel Aviv and Iran outside of Tehran are actually pretty comparable. Different religion and different international allies propping them up, but otherwise pretty similar. Difference mostly being Iran doesn't try to guilt trip its allies into being rabidly expansionist.

 

[dabila]

I don't understand my own culture because some retard mixed cultural signals? Think harder Abdul

You retarded fucking kike, you claimed that the picture was fake due to his appearance, according to you, not resembling what you would expect from his brand of Judaism. You were wrong. Why should anyone trust anything you say, when you don't even know your own jewish people and brazenly lie in defense of them, no matter what?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

You retarded fucking kike, you claimed that the picture was fake due to his appearance, according to you, not resembling what you would expect from his brand of Judaism. You were wrong. Why should anyone trust anything you say, when you don't even know your own jewish people and brazenly lie in defense of them, no matter what?

Re-read what I said Abdul and translate it to your native Arabic if it helps. One retarded guy doesn't = all of hilltop youth

 

[dabila]

Re-read what I said Abdul and translate it to your native Arabic if it helps. One retarded guy doesn't = all of hilltop youth

I know what you said. You're still retarded for having claimed it was AI generated in the first place. Your treblinkan hubris obviously leads you to ridiculous conclusions, so why should anyone take what you say seriously? Your biases lead you to make retardedly false claims.

 

[Welfare Bum]

You have tactical brain. Tactical victories are not the primary importance in war, they are tools to achieve actual strategic victory.

Let's say Israel bombs Turkey, and Europe bombs Israel. The US now enters the theatre of war and prepares to bomb Europe. What's the win condition? Is it bombing Europe until they agree to stop bombing Israel?

My entire point is that Europe will not retaliate against Israel because they're afraid of going to war with America. Not that America can inflict a strategic defeat on Europe. They can't seem to do that to anyone.

But yes. Were that to happen, the MO, as usual, will be to kill civilians until the enemy surrenders in order to spare their lives.

How do you think this plays domestically? Do you think most Americans would rather the US side with Europe, or Israel?

How would it play if US boots are on the ground in Europe, killing Europeans that look like White Americans, because Israel faced consequences for doing something bad? How would it play if the military cack-hands another missile and hits the Eiffel Tower or the Colosseum or Big Ben?

The opinions of Americans don't play a role in the decisions of the government unless the disapproval escalates to riots and law breaking. But that only ever happens when a nigger gets shot.

"LOL yeah we'd totally pwn you with an amazing K/D ratio" I don't care, you're not going to, because real life isn't CoD.

Maybe let the adults discuss Iran in this thread and take your crayons back to USPG2.

I support Iran, retard.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

And if they don't want to make a deal, then I'll finish it up.

Come on, Don. They've said multiple times that they refuse to budge on nukes, and you've admitted yourself that you aren't even sure who's in charge of the country.
Just give us Bridge and Power Plant Day tomorrow, and let us enjoy the pretty lights.

 

[Taser Confetti]

My entire point is that Europe will not retaliate against Israel because they're afraid of going to war with America.

America has no defense pact with Israel. That’s why kikes like Levin and Loomer were seething when we signed one with Qatar.

Going to war with the EU/NATO will lead to riots on the White House lawn and potentially a military coup.

 

[StudMccool]

Come on, Don. They've said multiple times that they refuse to budge on nukes, and you've admitted yourself that you aren't even sure who's in charge of the country.
Just give us Bridge and Power Plant Day tomorrow, and let us enjoy the pretty lights.

if the Iran crisis 2026 thread hardliners and moderates could negoitiate for a minute

what if we agree to 1-3 SMALL LOW YIELD tactical nukes NOT USED ON CITYS in exchange for sparing the power plants. down vote me all you want but I think the second we target their energy infrastructure we turn in from a war against a government

a war we might still win, to a war against a people, a war we would never have any chance at winning.

if we can determine with 90% of higher certainty of the position of underground major facility's I think the use of tactical nukes, ONCE AGAIN AS LONG AS ITS OUTSIDE A CITY, would be perfect, you will cause a "mini earth quake" and cave in underground facility's MILES under the granite.

Taking out powerplants means everyone in hospitals without absolutely state of the art backup generators, who is on ventilators will be the first to go, thats elderly and infirm.

thoughts? I truly am not your guys enemy, im just of a different perspective of how to handle all this, not on the side of the damn ayatollah.

 

[AssignedEva]

My entire point is that Europe will not retaliate against Israel because they're afraid of going to war with America. Not that America can inflict a strategic defeat on Europe. They can't seem to do that to anyone.

But yes. Were that to happen, the MO, as usual, will be to kill civilians until the enemy surrenders in order to spare their lives.

This is specifically about the scenario where Israel attacks Turkey. On paper, the US should side with Europe because that's a NATO ally.

It'd basically be a game of chicken between "Europe and America have to defend a NATO ally against Israel doing something bad" and "Europe won't dare attack Israel because they know we're ZOG'ed".

The MO is also not to kill civillians, it's to take out military assets. If your default is to terror bomb and kill civillians until people surrender, well, that's basically either Medieval or just straight up evil. And still won't result in a strategic victory.

The opinions of Americans don't play a role in the decisions of the government unless the disapproval escalates to riots and law breaking. But that only ever happens when a nigger gets shot.

If Trump started bombing Europe because they're defending an ally against Israel, that would do it. Someome would kill or incapacitate Trump. The USA could not afford the fallout of attacking Europe, you don't have the 1940s economy and you won't anytime soon. Regardless of tactical victory.

I support Iran, retard.

Then you're a double retard. Nobody should support Iran. They've got an evil Islamic regime and they're crippling global trade.
The point is they're an enemy who you shouldn't pick a fight with because of the leverage they hold, and tactical victories like sinking their fleet haven't stopped them exploiting that leverage. They're a hostile nation that needs to be dealt with through diplomacy, which is what everyone was trying to do until Trump shit himself in rage and went along with faulty Mossad intelligence about how easy this would be.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

what if we agree to 1-3 SMALL LOW YIELD tactical nukes NOT USED ON CITYS in exchange for sparing the power plants.

Sounds pretty based actually, but Trump just ruled out using nukes, sadly. Then again, the guy loves to fuck with the press.

 

[Taser Confetti]

They've got an evil Islamic regime and they're crippling global trade.

There’s churches and synagogues in Iran while religious minorities are forced to meet secretly in Saudi Arabia. All the animosity directed at Iran is linked to Carter era grievances and their hostility towards Israel.

As for crippling global trade. Would any other country not do this if facing an existential threat?

 

[AssignedEva]

There’s churches and synagogues in Iran while religious minorities are forced to meet secretly in Saudi Arabia. All the animosity directed at Iran is linked to Carter era grievances and their hostility towards Israel.

As for crippling global trade. Would any other country not do this if facing an existential threat?

I don't blame Iran for doing it, they're playing their hand. Their hand is crippling global trade by shutting the strait and damaging Gulf infrastructure. It's the only logical thing for them to do. That's their leverage.

That doesn't mean I support Iran. It's just illustrating why attacking Iran by bombing them a bunch was a terrible idea, and why literally every single intelligence agency said "don't attack Iran, they'd use their leverage to cripple global trade, and you're not meaningfully going to win in this scenario". This is why no US President beside the retard in chief tried it.