Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

[Fek]

To those who need to read this:

Every single interaction where one meets another in hatred/anger only grows and nurtures that which was allowed to make them angry/hateful, friends. It is strengthened. It is validated.

For one's own sake most of all - please consider letting it go. It is not serving you, dear friends.

 

[Welfare Bum]

America has no defense pact with Israel. That’s why kikes like Levin and Loomer were seething when we signed one with Qatar.

Going to war with the EU/NATO will lead to riots on the White House lawn and potentially a military coup.

Correct. But America behaves like it does. I think both of you are missing my point. More on that further below.

On paper, the US should side with Europe because that's a NATO ally.

Lmao

The MO is also not to kill civillians, it's to take out military assets. If your default is to terror bomb and kill civillians until people surrender, well, that's basically either Medieval or just straight up evil. And still won't result in a strategic victory.

Tell that to America. You're singing to the choir.

If Trump started bombing Europe because they're defending an ally against Israel, that would do it. Someome would kill or incapacitate Trump. The USA could not afford the fallout of attacking Europe, you don't have the 1940s economy and you won't anytime soon. Regardless of tactical victory.

Missing the point entirely. This would never happen because Europe and America will never fight each other because Europe would not honor Turkey's invocation of article 5 if Turkey was attacked by Israel because that means war with America.

War with America means that your civilian population will be targeted in terror bombing campaigns. Europe does not want that. It doesn't matter if America can't achieve strategic victory due to it's pitiful military production capacity. The meer idea that America will unleash on your country even a tiny fraction of what it unleashed onto Iran is a major deterrence to attacking Israel. Nobody wants that, dude. Europe won't defend Turkey.

They've got an evil Islamic regime and they're crippling global trade.

The Protestorcaust never happened. Iran should take women's rights away to raise their fertility rate.

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[AssignedEva]

To those who need to read this:

Every single interaction where one meets another in hatred/anger only grows and nurtures that which was allowed to make them angry/hateful, friends. It is strengthened. It is validated.

For one's own sake most of all - please consider letting it go. It is not serving you, dear friends.

What a lovely sentiment. We should all stop pointing and laughing at lolcows too, right?

This would never happen because Europe and America will never fight each other because Europe would not honor Turkey's invocation of article 5 if Turkey was attacked by Israel because that means war with America.

I literally acknowledged this, it's the issue with your hypothetical.
Europe doesn't want to fight America. America doesn't want to fight Europe.
If Israel attacks Turkey, which is a NATO ally and also technically partially in Europe, then the sensible thing for the US to do is to attack Israel.
If they don't attack Israel and instead attack Europe, US hegemony collapses and Trump has the survival quotient of a jellyfish in a blast furnace.
There's situations where the US attacks Europe, but this isn't one of them.

 

[Welfare Bum]

If Israel attacks Turkey, which is a NATO ally and also technically partially in Europe, then the sensible thing for the US to do is to attack Israel.
If they don't attack Israel and instead attack Europe, US hegemony collapses and Trump has the survival quotient of a jellyfish in a blast furnace.

NATO collapses. Not American hegemony. It would if Europe weren't so Russophobic. Nobody will defend Turkey because they're afraid of America. If nobody defends Turkey, America wont take flak for not defending Turkey, either. American hegemony ends when everyone stops fearing American military and economic leverage. They're busy pissing both of those away on their own. Only way it doesn't happen is if everyone on America's shitlist randomly surrenders for no reason.

 

[bread n circuses]

Saar the Epstein empire will never defeat brics

India and Israel are best friends, you should keep this low IQ propaganda trash for when you're talking to miggers.

No evidence that was Mossad was ever involved, you probably believe trump raped and ate babies too

FBI report, Ghislaine Maxwell.

"No evidence" is a blatant lie and won't work on non retards.

 

[AssignedEva]

NATO collapses. Not American hegemony. It would if Europe weren't so Russophobic. Nobody will defend Turkey because they're afraid of America. If nobody defends Turkey, America wont take flak for not defending Turkey, either. American hegemony ends when everyone stops fearing American military and economic leverage. They're busy pissing both of those away on their own. Only way it doesn't happen is if everyone on America's shitlist randomly surrenders for no reason.

You're not going to show the "Eurocucks" or "Europoors" what's what with your military might, sorry. You're learning a lesson that the Us being a superpower does not mean it's got superpowers, and wins in a vacuum. Bitter pill to swallow, I understand.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

FBI report, Ghislaine Maxwell.

"No evidence" is a blatant lie and won't work on non retards.

post the direct evidence ahmed

There’s churches and synagogues in Iran while religious minorities are forced to meet secretly in Saudi Arabia. All the animosity directed at Iran is linked to Carter era grievances and their hostility towards Israel.

are you retarded

iran is in the top 10 of countries that oppress christians

 

[AssignedEva]

iran is in the top 10 of countries that oppress christians

So what's the deal with them having Jews

 

[Taser Confetti]

iran is in the top 10 of countries that oppress christians

That’s my problem how? If it were too oppressive there wouldn’t be any churches or synagogues standing in that country.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

So what's the deal with them having Jews

Jews have been in Persia since the first exile. At the time of the Islamic Revolution, there were about 100k Jews. Most of them escaped but some stayed behind for various reasons. These Jews are stuck in Iran and are second class citizens along with anyone else who isn't Shia. They are forbidden to work in the government outside of a symbolic seat in parliament, cannot hold positions of power in the military or work in the legal field. If a Jewish family wants to leave Iran, they are forced to either leave a member behind or put up valuables as collateral that they will come back.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/11/22/iran-drops-the-facade-of-tolerance-toward-persian-jews/

The regime’s treatment of Iranian Jews was always a calculated balancing act, meant to appease its antisemitic base while trying to avoid greater international scrutiny. But after the Twelve Day War in June, and repeated failures to strike Jewish targets in Europe, Tehran has redirected its hostility toward its own Jewish citizens. In just its latest act of cruelty, the New York Times reported on November 6 that the Islamic Revolutionary Court has sentenced a 70-year-old Iranian-American Jew, who has been held in Tehran’s Evin Prison since July, to two years in prison for the crime of visiting Israel 13 years ago to attend his son’s bar mitzvah.

Since then, the regime has used the Jewish community as a diplomatic shield for its antisemitic policies. Iran’s Jews have been coerced into attending pro-regime rallies and forced to condemn Israeli strikes against the regime’s terrorist proxies and the Islamic Republic’s military and nuclear sites. State media amplified this propaganda to back its claim that the regime differentiates between Jews and Zionists.

At the same time, the regime’s antisemitic messaging continued unabated, with state outlets promoting Holocaust denial and quoting Adolf Hitler’s thoughts on Jews. At Friday prayer, imams appointed by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei have repeatedly called for the annihilation of the Jewish people and labeled Jews “enemies of Islam” and “enemies of humanity.”

That’s my problem how? If it were too oppressive there wouldn’t be any churches or synagogues standing in that country.

they forbid conversion or being a christian if you're not part of a specific set of churches

 

[bread n circuses]

post the direct evidence ahmed

Do I need to provide you an education in your genetic and cultural origins?


You speak one of the closest languages to Arabic, they diverged around 2000 BC. 60% of Hebrew words have cognates in Arabic, apparently they're similar enough that the relationship between English and German is considered a good comparison.

By contrast, the common ancestor linking my native Germanic language and Arabic can't be found, it goes back further than the most speculative of linguistic theories.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.100115997

Depending on the genetic study, you're either extremely similar to Levantine Arabs or indistinguishable from them. Certainly, you are closer to Levantine Arabs genetically than you are to Western Europeans.

The upshot of this post is that you need to shut the fuck up about other people being Arabs. You are brown, you speak a brown language, you come from a brown part of the world. Deal with it.

 

[Taser Confetti]

they forbid conversion or being a christian if you're not part of a specific set of churches

How many statues of Jesus have they smashed this year?

Why does Israel forbid interfaith marriages?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Do I need to provide you an education in your genetic and cultural origins?

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You speak one of the closest languages to Arabic, they diverged around 2000 BC. 60% of Hebrew words have cognates in Arabic, apparently they're similar enough that the relationship between English and German is considered a good comparison.

By contrast, the common ancestor linking my native Germanic language and Arabic can't be found, it goes back further than the most speculative of linguistic theories.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.100115997

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Depending on the genetic study, you're either extremely similar to Levantine Arabs or indistinguishable from them. Certainly, you are closer to Levantine Arabs genetically than you are to Western Europeans.

The upshot of this post is that you need to shut the fuck up about other people being Arabs. You are brown, you speak a brown language, you come from a brown part of the world. Deal with it.

what I asked:



what i got was seething

How many statues of Jesus have they smashed this year?

https://www.opendoors.org/en-US/persecution/countries/iran/

vs a soldier who got put in prison for doing this

Why does Israel forbid interfaith marriages?

because israel kept the ottoman millet system on the requests of all religions which maintain their own religious court and none of them want to allow interfaith marriages.

google exists

 

[Taser Confetti]

kept the ottoman millet system

Your champion of Western civilization Sir.

 

[bread n circuses]

what i got was seething

I'm not interested in whatever lies you come up with to defend Mossad, I'm here to call you brown.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Your champion of Western civilization Sir.

you don't read, you look for keywords that activate a trigger in your brain

if you looked it up, you would see the Utah law which allows people to bypass the millet system if they choose by doing a virtual marriage with someone in Utah who is licensed to marry people, either that or go to cyprus

you mentioned being involved in law enforcement yet your beliefs are that of the average low IQ nigger. did they hire you because of that?

 

[Delany's Donkey]

Israel attacks Turkey. On paper, the US should side with Europe because that's a NATO ally.

Isreal isn't planning on attacking turkey while allied with the US. The plan is to completely destroy the US and Europe with third world immigration then hop ship to a new host and have them fight turkey once The US and NATO are either completely irrelevant or gone.

This plan is retarded however since the new host seems like it's going to be fucking india of all places.

 

[Taser Confetti]

if you looked it up, you would see the Utah law which allows people to bypass the millet system if they choose by doing a virtual marriage with someone in Utah who is licensed to marry people, either that or go to cyprus

Doing a marriage over zoom or flying across the Mediterranean. Totally not an apartheid state.

you mentioned being involved in law enforcement yet your beliefs are that of the average low IQ nigger. did they hire you because of that?

So do you either secretly lurk the TES thread or are you seething so hard about me that you read all my posts?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Doing a marriage over zoom or flying across the Mediterranean. Totally not an apartheid state.

not allowing secular marriage is apartheid?

So do you either secretly lurk the TES thread

i read some of it to laugh at you guys for being losers

I'm not interested in whatever lies you come up with to defend Mossad, I'm here to call you brown.

no evidence lol