The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

Halfway through the final season and literally fucking nothing of consequence has happened.

Everyone just goes on a different "sidequest" every episode and fails so they have to do the same thing again the next episode.
 
They just canceled Gen V season three. So all of the buildup for those characters is trashed. And they announced it during the final season of The Boys. Yet another momentum killer. Essentially two seasons of a spinoff have no real conclusion and everyone who invested in those characters wasted their time. Almost seems like a punishing announcement to do it during the middle of the final season of the main series. And right when more spinoffs are in production.
 
TheHarbinger said:
They just canceled Gen V season three. So all of the buildup for those characters is trashed. And they announced it during the final season of The Boys. Yet another momentum killer. Essentially two seasons of a spinoff have no real conclusion and everyone who invested in those characters wasted their time. Almost seems like a punishing announcement to do it during the middle of the final season of the main series. And right when more spinoffs are in production.
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Good. Let it die.
 
TheHarbinger said:
They just canceled Gen V season three. So all of the buildup for those characters is trashed. And they announced it during the final season of The Boys. Yet another momentum killer. Essentially two seasons of a spinoff have no real conclusion and everyone who invested in those characters wasted their time. Almost seems like a punishing announcement to do it during the middle of the final season of the main series. And right when more spinoffs are in production.
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Wow, they really subverted my expectations in a new way!
 
TheHarbinger said:
They just canceled Gen V season three. So all of the buildup for those characters is trashed. And they announced it during the final season of The Boys. Yet another momentum killer. Essentially two seasons of a spinoff have no real conclusion and everyone who invested in those characters wasted their time. Almost seems like a punishing announcement to do it during the middle of the final season of the main series. And right when more spinoffs are in production.
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This had to happen because there was no way that Amazon was gonna blow a fuck ton of money on the boys season 5 and that solider boy spinoff and then have to later spend millions more on Gen V season 3 when literally nobody cares about the show by itself. Frankly, Gen V season 2 is by far the worst season in the entire Boys universe and Amazon knew better than to pour millions more into that total dumpster fire.
To me, I felt like Gen V season 2 was incredibly rushed and haphazard with many scenes straight up making no sense (like the abandoned library having a functional desktop, wifi, snacks, and clothes).
 
Exegesis said:
This had to happen because there was no way that Amazon was gonna blow a fuck ton of money on the boys season 5 and that solider boy spinoff and then have to later spend millions more on Gen V season 3 when literally nobody cares about the show by itself. Frankly, Gen V season 2 is by far the worst season in the entire Boys universe and Amazon knew better than to pour millions more into that total dumpster fire.
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if only they knew better than to waste money on this trashfire
 
Unconfirmed spoilers for the remaining episodes:

Homelander kills MM, Frenchie, and Kimiko. He tortured Kimiko for fun. Firecracker becomes afraid of Homelander so he kills her as well when she questions his brutality when killing his enemies. He mounts her head on a spike publicly. Homelander becomes President of the United States and the world and has Sister Sage and Soldier Boy fired from Vought.

Stormfront is back using a mechanical body like Darth Vader. Ryan kills her as revenge for his mother. But not before she reunites with Soldier Boy and says goodbye to him. Plus dumps a bunch of information about the Vought Rising show. Most of her dialog is about setting up her story in the prequel.

Homelander takes V1 and his lasers are capable of taking down an entire city in one shot. He incinerates tens of millions of people. This causes most superheroes to turn against him including Soldier Boy. Ryan wants to kill Homelander and Butcher as he realizes they are both insane. A minority of powerful superhoes still stay loyal to Homelander.

Soldier Boy goes to the White House to confront his son. He apologizes to him, wants back into Vought and the government, and want to support him but it's a lie. He gives him a hug but then won't let go and charges his beam and takes out Homelander's powers. The Deep, Noir, and Ashley come to see what the explosion was. They find Homelander and he orders them to leave except for Ashley as her powers can sense he has no more V in his system. Ashley realizes Homelander is vulnerable and tries to fight him. Homelander strangles Ashley to death but she nearly kills him as well as he has no powers.

Homelander publicly calls all superheroes to the White House. Butcher has another dose of the virus and goes to kill all superheroes. Hughie and Starlight go there to help at least kill Homelander unaware he has no more powers. Starlight and Ryan kill the Deep and Noir. Homelander is literally crying and praying to Jesus for help. Butcher swings a crowbar at Homelander and instantly kills him by decapitating him shocking everyone there as they had no idea he was no longer powered. With Homelander dead Starlight and Hughie tell Butcher not to release the virus. Butcher tries anyways and they kill him before he can do it. But by then Butcher is no longer in control over his body. The tumor as Kessler was controlling him. So Hughie mercy kills Butcher with Ryan.

Time skip a year into the future. America and the world are being rebuilt. There are still superheroes but Vought is gone and no one has the formula for Compound V anymore. Soldier Boy is partying on a yacht and hosting another Herogasm event. Sister Sage commits suicide. Hughie and Starlight adopt Ryan and he wants to go to Godolkin University.

Final shot is Homelander's corpse with "Don't Fear the Reaper" playing.
 
sixuglymidgets said:
Makes me want to see characters like butcher and marshal law in a a universe with actual superheroes who are good people and are very necessary in their universe to save humanity from all kinds of threats and how these characters would actually be seen as psychopaths because the author isn’t twisting the story to make them 100% right
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Marshall Law actually does as there are good and bad heroes in the Marshall Law universe and Marshall Law mellows out, when he finds out that his dead girlfriend never loved him and was dating him solely to try and upset her parents like the typical feminist contrarian she turned out to be.

It's one of the few ways The Boys varies from ML and Team Achilles; both Mills and Wright walk back their characters hatred of super heroes and jerk ass behavior rather quickly to keep readership from bailing from the title. While Ennis keeps doubling down on Butcher being a bully, an asshole, a lying manipulative monster.
 
MirrorNoir said:
Marshall Law actually does as there are good and bad heroes in the Marshall Law universe and Marshall Law mellows out, when he finds out that his dead girlfriend never loved him and was dating him solely to try and upset her parents like the typical feminist contrarian she turned out to be.

It's one of the few ways The Boys varies from ML and Team Achilles; both Mills and Wright walk back their characters hatred of super heroes and jerk ass behavior rather quickly to keep readership from bailing from the title. While Ennis keeps doubling down on Butcher being a bully, an asshole, a lying manipulative monster.
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I just find all of these criticisms of cape comics far more juvenile and retarded than the cape comics they're criticizing as they do the fucking capeshit themselves. lol, cum, shit, farts, and tits! What do you mean having the sense of humor of a teenager who just figured out what his own dick does isn't amusing?

People read into this shit and think there's more to it than there really is. Look at how people think Watchmen is some bizarre Nietzschean masterpiece when it's Alan Moore applying his bizarre What if ideas on to real life. Did they actually fucking read the story or watch a video essay by some autist about it?

At least shit like Bratpack was more a criticism on sidekicks and to some extent side-characters being there just to be killed off or fucked with for more money. It lambasts its own ridiculousness with all the expies being so blatant and what people joke about (Batman being a pedophile, Wonder Woman being a man-hating old hag masquerading as a young woman, Iron Man being a rich degenerate, Superman being god, and Captain America being a racist).
 
Allow me to play devil's advocate but the elite squad trained solely for handling superpowered threats is a really cool idea and I get why Ennis is into that.
It's just that its usually the batman handling of 'elite squad' where they basically have their own form of superpowers via plot armor and the very fabric of the world bends to show how cool and superior they are to the supers, "Heh in my Harry Potter fanfiction John McGlock who is a tier one operator just magdumped voldemort and wrapped the whole thing up in an hour".
You could probably just go the FEAR route where the squad is just as mortal as anyone and/or they involve a supersoldier who's just as strong as the threats he's dealing with.
 
BiggestKai said:
Allow me to play devil's advocate but the elite squad trained solely for handling superpowered threats is a really cool idea and I get why Ennis is into that.
It's just that its usually the batman handling of 'elite squad' where they basically have their own form of superpowers via plot armor and the very fabric of the world bends to show how cool and superior they are to the supers, "Heh in my Harry Potter fanfiction John McGlock who is a tier one operator just magdumped voldemort and wrapped the whole thing up in an hour".
You could probably just go the FEAR route where the squad is just as mortal as anyone and/or they involve a supersoldier who's just as strong as the threats he's dealing with.
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Yes, I think that’s why Invincible and the literal shady government agency established to both manage and research ways to destroy the superheroes is the most ”realistic” idea.

Especially in regards to our society and history.

I am kind of surprised that Alan Moore didn’t think of this theme for watchmen as it was literally set during the Cold War and the Soviets would have stopped at nothing to get their own Dr Manhattan or turn the American one.

MirrorNoir said:
While Ennis keeps doubling down on Butcher being a bully, an asshole, a lying manipulative monster.
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Ennis’s bread and butter is manipulative single minded horrific men.

One of his earliest and most obscure works is ”Troubled Souls” from the pages of short lived anthology comic series Crisis.

This reality focused strip was set during the Troubles in northern Ireland and featured a Protestant young man being manipulated and forced into terror activity by a dangerous Catholic IRA member.

Clearly it demonstrates some of the experience and backgrounds which Ennis grew up with.
The kind of fanaticism he puts into characters like Herr Starr and Jody of Preacher and Billy Butcher are based on people he must have known.
 
TheHarbinger said:
They just canceled Gen V season three. So all of the buildup for those characters is trashed. And they announced it during the final season of The Boys. Yet another momentum killer. Essentially two seasons of a spinoff have no real conclusion and everyone who invested in those characters wasted their time. Almost seems like a punishing announcement to do it during the middle of the final season of the main series. And right when more spinoffs are in production.
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I don't know about you guys, but personally I am completely heartbroken we don't get to see the thrilling conclusion to the story of the black chick that fights using her period blood.
 
TheHarbinger said:
They just canceled Gen V season three. So all of the buildup for those characters is trashed. And they announced it during the final season of The Boys. Yet another momentum killer. Essentially two seasons of a spinoff have no real conclusion and everyone who invested in those characters wasted their time. Almost seems like a punishing announcement to do it during the middle of the final season of the main series. And right when more spinoffs are in production.
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Between this and The Boys getting a budget too small to allow for actual battles for the finale of a superhero series, I can't see all the planned spinoffs making it to filming.
 
It's honestly pathetic when all the villains of The Boys are more pathetic than Syndrome, a villain from a family movie, from over 2 decades ago. Also, the "adult" shit is more juvenile than the motives of a super genius going w long burn of using and killing supers to stand supreme over his former idol. Why does modern media not respect their villains?
 
Kyria the Great said:
It's honestly pathetic when all the villains of The Boys are more pathetic than Syndrome, a villain from a family movie, from over 2 decades ago. Also, the "adult" shit is more juvenile than the motives of a super genius going w long burn of using and killing supers to stand supreme over his former idol. Why does modern media not respect their villains?
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Because it's all about "deconstruction" and shit. It's all about psychoanalyzing your villains instead of making your villains into intimidating, psychologically sound people who can strategize properly and you need good hero with a good mind and heart to defeat.
 
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