Russell Greer vs. Viatron Corporation, A-26-937678-C

Based on what I saw , it looks like ViaTron is paying the fees with the option to charge RG proportionately for his portion should ViaTron prevail in the arbitration hearing.
I won't be surprised if they end up paying Greer to go away, regardless of whatever victories Hardin might have promised them. Probably not as much as the original "$20k plus keep working for us until we can find a legit way to fire you for cause" offer, but still more than zero dollars.
 
Good luck trying to spin that yarn to an arbitrator who'll be armed with the facts and hasn't been playing telephone via a docket for the last 6 years.
And don't forget his job is to do hundreds of cases every year, usually marching them right out the back door and Old Yellering them immediately.
 
I think that is dumb, the free LLM use is nothing other than direct sharing of the input with a third party, and given that third party a license to use your logs for commercial purposes and training. Anyone could in theory just purchase all the data from the AI company directly.
So any notes or drafts typed in Google Docs or Office 365 should also be free game?
 
Hes going to be sorely mistaken. Arbitration exists for corporations to fuck people by removing due process and evidentiary requirements, streamlining the whole legal process in such a way that they can fuck their target quickly and cheaply.
"Basically just by buying our shit product you signed away your rights to everything, forever."

For instance, if you've ever ordered Uber Eats, ever, for any reason, their drivers can literally run you over and you have no right to sue.
 
ViaTRON should offer one paid for trip to the Bunny Ranch, take it or leave it.
I'm hoping the abritator offers Viatron an ownership stake in Russ's up-and-coming brothel empire. If he really wanted to be cruel to Greee while also being incredibly funny, and under the pretense of a Russell victory, he could force them to purchase stake pursuant to certain stipulations that'd Russ would never meet. Not because they're zany or unrealistic, but because Russ is a retard.

They wouldn't even need to be crazy stipulations either, just something very standard for new small enterprises. My personal choice would be for Russ to develop a coherent, relative, and applicable business plan, that'd Russ would have to present before Viatron, whose bound by the arbitration ruling to rubber-stamp the approval. Ofc, the coherent, relative, and applicable part would necessitate arbitration in its own right because Russ would 100% either:

- Reuse a slide or two from his hilariously shitty and nonsensical PowerPoint from his Winnemucca escapades.

or

- Shit out gibberish from ChatGPT, that doesn't resemble any type of plan for any type of business.
 
I think arbitration makes sense for Viatron, it's likely that even if they "lose" it will still be cheaper to pay Greer what he's owed(little for possible ADA compliance and a bit of lost wages) than to pay lawyers to go all the way to trial. Unlike Greer v Moon, there's no pig headed forum owner who wants to set an example by paying what is needed to put plaintiff's head on a pike and waving to it... like this(waves).
 
What I find most curious about this turn of events is that Greer did initially try to resolve his claims through arbitration. From his complaint:
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I don't think it's going to go well for him, but to be fair, he's getting one of the outcomes he had hoped for, before he filed the lawsuit. I'd be shocked if he doesn't view this as a win.
 
I won't be surprised if they end up paying Greer to go away, regardless of whatever victories Hardin might have promised them. Probably not as much as the original "$20k plus keep working for us until we can find a legit way to fire you for cause" offer, but still more than zero dollars.

They could have done that without arbitration. Greer would take whatever amount of money lets him make a down payment on an apartment so that he doesn't have to live out of his car.

This makes a certain amount of sense if Viatron is only paying the initial fees up front with the promise to pay additional costs at the end. Should the arbitration process end in their favor, Greer now owes money to JAMS, not Viatron. Even if they reach a neutral outcome where costs are split, Greer is going to owe money to JAMS. Hardin knows that Greer doesn't have a pot to piss in and never will, so he should have been smart enough to arrange things so that his client isn't stuck holding the bag at the end of it. Hardin isn't a scumbag so he definitely informed Viatron what the worst case scenario looks like if the judge puts on a bowtie and starts tard guarding.

If Viatron does settle, it's only after the arbitration costs are higher than whatever they would pay to Greer. They could even pay the amount they agreed upon through JAMS who will deduct the totality of what Greer owes before sending the remainder of the bill to Russ. Greer isn't coming out of this ahead. If that's what they've done, then if Russ sues anyone afterwards it would be JAMS, which means that they're the ones stuck dealing with the retard instead of Viatron. Of course, it's far more likely that the arbitration goes in Viatron's favor. They won't be able to collect from Greer, but perhaps they could sell the debt to some other interested party.
 
What I find most curious about this turn of events is that Greer did initially try to resolve his claims through arbitration. From his complaint:
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I don't think it's going to go well for him, but to be fair, he's getting one of the outcomes he had hoped for, before he filed the lawsuit. I'd be shocked if he doesn't view this as a win.
Tbh much of what Viatroon has done in this lolsuit is equally dumb as what Russhole himself has done.
 
Tbh much of what Viatroon has done in this lolsuit is equally dumb as what Russhole himself has done.
Presumably, Hardin's first act after signing on was to smack a few heads together and tell them to take it to arbitration instead of dragging it out in court. Entertaining as it would be for us otherwise, a lawyer has to act in his client's best interest, and in viatron's case that definitely is not served spending months and years responding to endless plights.
 
They could have done that without arbitration.
Yeah but see upthread re: Stupid company run by stupid people. Plus Greer already sued them and put a shitload of embarrassing material into the public docket for all the world to see. Viatron will be very lucky if other disgruntled ex-employees don't try to shake them down after seeing that shit.
 
Presumably, Hardin's first act after signing on was to smack a few heads together and tell them to take it to arbitration instead of dragging it out in court. Entertaining as it would be for us otherwise, a lawyer has to act in his client's best interest, and in viatron's case that definitely is not served spending months and years responding to endless plights.
Guess what arbitrators don't care about at all? If you guessed "plights" you goddamn won.
 
Guess what arbitrators don't care about at all? If you guessed "plights" you goddamn won.
At least for now. I could absolutely see these Arbitration groups being the next target for lefty entryism. Yeah they'll protect the corporations (as long as they keep supporting the cause, comrade) but if you're white male get TURBO fucked, colonizer.
 
I think its Klingon? Qa'Plagh!
While you wasted your time shitposting on the Farms, I studied the Ka'Tina.

I dream of a discovery request for Greer's LLM prompt history.
Just as SmashJT found out, its not work-product doctrine protected.
Would love this, but like it has been for the previous legal actions discovery request in GvM, the tard will just say "I gheleted them ya hunnah, dish ish a fishing echpedishun" and the bowtie fag will just accept it.
 
For instance, if you've ever ordered Uber Eats, ever, for any reason, their drivers can literally run you over and you have no right to sue.
Independent contractors. Never mind that the contractor wouldn’t have been there but for the contracted delivery.
 
Never mind that the contractor wouldn’t have been there but for the contracted delivery.
Not what he said, though. You order food from uber eats on monday, and then get run over by an uber eats driver on wednesday, you can't sue uber (or the driver) because of the binding arbitration clause that came with the initial order.
 
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