Elden Ring

[Forgive Me Im Retarded]

Sort of, Marika isn't just "playing" two roles, Radagon is an entirely seperate being she made or fused with, to create the Alchemic Divine Hermaphrodite, which is core to acheiving True Gold and becoming a God, True Gold is the Elden Ring.


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Radagon was a true believer in their little religion, and Marika wasn't... we see this attempt at godhood play out again with Miquella trying to be the Platinum White Queen to Radhan's Sulfur Red King and acheive the same godhood goal ends.

Yeah I don’t know about all of that aside from a lot of the symbology seems to definitely be inspiration for the story, but aside from gold, tarnished, silver, and some repeating themes, nothing in the in-game lore actually points directly to this.

You’re probably correct, and I definitely believe that it’s a big inspiration, but there’s no definite proof in-game aside from abstract alignment of symbols and themes.

10/10 schizo post though

It's who started not how started.

Yeah, why are you so convinced there was only one start and not an instant free-for all? It’s also entirely possible that Ranni escalated the whole thing, but then I do think Godfrey’s children vs radagon’s children had something to do with it, but that might be because of how the introduction frames things.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

Based on what?
According to lore, Radahn was the mightiest, and Malenia never lost in battle.

And on this topic, why be a war in the first place? We have several lore pieces that inform us that the demigods were friendly between each other, some even cooperating on various thinks, and we have 0 evidence of there being bad blood.
There's no reason for the war to start, besides the plot needing it.

Godwyn was the greatest and most loved and respected Demi-God, he had the backing of the Ancient Dragons, he was the only one of them that was "perfect", Radhan could only lead his men, his might in battle got him nowhere, he was taken down by an even greater warrior through means he had no defense.

Marika SPECIFICALLY told the Demi-gods (as told to us by Melina with Marika's words) to fight over the Elden Ring, those that do not fight should be slaughtered by the rest, it was a literal Divine Decree by a God who can make Divine Decree's reality.

So, mother and sister conspired to kill what was arguably the most beloved demigod.
Ranni had motivation to escape the Greater Will, but why not choose another demigod?
And Marika, why choose Ranni? There were other empyreans, so why Ranni specifically?
Also, if Marika hated everyone, why set in motion events that would lead to freedom? Why not simply let the world be enslaved is she was such a cunt?

Marika isn't marking Ranni as the winner, she likely knew Ranni would straight up be cut from her body and thus her fate, Ranni cannot win the whole shebang because of this, she is choosing Ranni because Ranni will not chose to stop the War or solidify everything.

and Did Marika set into motion freedom? do you really think our PC will stay the Elden Lord? the entire speil from Gideon about Marika's intent stats taht she knows a man can never kill a God, aka HER, and by this he means no one can turn the system off, even turning her into a frozen Statue, she's still "there" and all her reality warping still in effect, all you can do is steer the ship or straight up destroy the Universe in the Frenzy Flame ending, which she would be fine with.

Only Ranni seemingly, can send her out of this world, since she's an Empyrean and you basically grant her the might of the Elden Ring in that ending, this doesn't really end the conflict, after you leave, people will fight over the rubble, Marika simply wants everyone to fight over ruling, forever.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

Yeah I don’t know about all of that aside from a lot of the symbology seems to definitely be inspiration for the story, but aside from gold, tarnished, silver, and some repeating themes, nothing in the in-game lore actually points directly to this.

You’re probably correct, and I definitely believe that it’s a big inspiration, but there’s no definite proof in-game aside from abstract alignment of symbols and themes.

10/10 schizo post though

the Shadow of the Erdtree CGI trailer where Marika is making the Elden Ring straight up has all the critera for creating True Gold in it, its a great bit of visual storytelling and the most important single moment in the setting's entire history.

 

[Forgive Me Im Retarded]

the Shadow of the Erdtree CGI trailer where Marika is making the Elden Ring straight up has all the critera for creating True Gold in it, its a great bit of visual storytelling and the most important single moment in the setting's entire history.

Yeah this is where you’re losing people through, because it’s incredibly subjective.

Yes, it very much fits the theme of what’s going on in the story, but without clear reference, it’s basically asset use and inspiration, not established lore.

it’s the same thing with someone else’s colour theory about the game. It fits as an overlay over a lot of what’s established, but it’s not confirmed if that’s due to concept themes or hard lore.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

Yeah this is where you’re losing people through, because it’s incredibly subjective.

Yes, it very much fits the theme of what’s going on in the story, but without clear reference, it’s basically asset use and inspiration, not established lore.

it’s the same thing with someone else’s colour theory about the game. It fits as an overlay over a lot of what’s established, but it’s not confirmed if that’s due to concept themes or hard lore.

well obviously they aren't going to talk about Alchemy, it isn't on Earth, it can't really reference earth history with esoteric alchemic shit,but that's what it is.

the Elden Ring is almost assuredly an allegory for alchemy, and Marika in that video is clearly commiting to the ritual in shaping True Gold, hence Psycho Bitch saying exactly that, while Marika is doing it in the video.



it can't get more implied, sure its never explict, but Radagon+Marika fit all the critera for the Rebis, in all the weird little requirements, its too on the nose.

 

[Estate]

Godwyn was the greatest and most loved and respected Demi-God, he had the backing of the Ancient Dragons,

Beloved sure, greatest no.
Again, great by what measure? Personal and military might, he wasn't the top dog. Charisma alone doesn't win a conflict.
He had the friendship not backing. And the ancient dragons were already beaten and on the decline, so not that great an asset.

Radhan could only lead his men, his might in battle got him nowhere, he was taken down by an even greater warrior through means he had no defense.

Radahn is only defeated by MC, in this mad state and again at the end of DLC.
Malenia drew a stalemate only by nuking Caelid with mega aids.
With what do you support your claims exactly?

Marika SPECIFICALLY told the Demi-gods (as told to us by Melina with Marika's words) to fight over the Elden Ring, those that do not fight should be slaughtered by the rest, it was a literal Divine Decree by a God who can make Divine Decree's reality.

First, being a God in this universe doesn't mean you're all powerful, because if that were the case, the events of the game would not take place.
Second, that power is tied to the Elden Ring and her Lord, and since she shattered it and sent Godfrey away, she didn't have her McGuffin or Pimp to enforce her will.
So, no power to force and the children had no motive to fight.
It only happened because the plot needed it.

Marika isn't marking Ranni as the winner, she likely knew Ranni would straight up be cut from her body and thus her fate, Ranni cannot win the whole shebang because of this

Likely? But I thought everything was clear. So do we know exactly or do we guess?

she is choosing Ranni because Ranni will not chose to stop the War or solidify everything.

Based on what?
And is Ranni the only one who fits that criteria? Not stopping the War or solidification. Kinda...weak and vague.

and Did Marika set into motion freedom? do you really think our PC will stay the Elden Lord? the entire speil from Gideon about Marika's intent stats taht she knows a man can never kill a God, aka HER, and by this he means no one can turn the system off, even turning her into a frozen Statue, she's still "there" and all her reality warping still in effect, all you can do is steer the ship or straight up destroy the Universe in the Frenzy Flame ending, which she would be fine with.

Bro, you're going on tangents again.
I thought you had clear cut answers to everything, but you respond with questions?
Gideon believes that, but it's not taken as fact. You, the tarnished, proves him wrong. Doesn't that mean Gideon is kinda huffing bubble farts?
How is she still there? What proof? In the end, it's just her Radagon aspect, that's basically hijacking by the Elden Beast to fix the ring. There's no Marika anymore anywhere.

Only Ranni seemingly, can send her out of this world, since she's an Empyrean and you basically grant her the might of the Elden Ring in that ending, this doesn't really end the conflict, after you leave, people will fight over the rubble, Marika simply wants everyone to fight over ruling, forever.

This is just wrong.
The 'conflict' is the War for the Elden Ring, and since Ranni takes everything and fucks off, there's no ring, no God, no Elden Lord, so there's no incentive to continue the game's conflict.

What you're talking about is conflict in general, not related to the main game's plot. Please focus and stay on topic.

well obviously they aren't going to talk about Alchemy, it isn't on Earth, it can't really reference earth history with esoteric alchemic shit,but that's what it is.

the Elden Ring is almost assuredly an allegory for alchemy, and Marika in that video is clearly commiting to the ritual in shaping True Gold, hence Psycho Bitch saying exactly that, while Marika is doing it in the video.

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it can't get more implied, sure its never explict, but Radagon+Marika fit all the critera for the Rebis, in all the weird little requirements, its too on the nose.

Be honest. Did you find this esoteric theory yourself or did you glean it from imageboards or some jewtuber?

 

[Asian tech support]

Be honest. Did you find this esoteric theory yourself or did you glean it from imageboards or some jewtuber?

Every single post of his is either him sucking his own dick and flexing how much of a geriatric he is or um ackshullying you like a smug redditor.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

Radahn is only defeated by MC, in this mad state and again at the end of DLC.
Malenia drew a stalemate only by nuking Caelid with mega aids.
With what do you support your claims exactly?

Radahn's quest was over the moment he fought Melania, it doesn't matter if he didn't die/lose, he was never going to be Elden Lord

First, being a God in this universe doesn't mean you're all powerful, because if that were the case, the events of the game would not take place.
Second, that power is tied to the Elden Ring and her Lord, and since she shattered it and sent Godfrey away, she didn't have her McGuffin or Pimp to enforce her will.
So, no power to force and the children had no motive to fight.
It only happened because the plot needed it.

Marika's Plan was set in motion since the start, long before she became God or had kids, all acts made by the Elden Ring like godly decree's remain in effect, post shattering as well, she is STILL the Elden Ring even with it being shattered, hence Radagon/Marika's appearance of having it in them, even with the pieces removed, she IS it.

Bro, you're going on tangents again.
I thought you had clear cut answers to everything, but you respond with questions?
Gideon believes that, but it's not taken as fact. You, the tarnished, proves him wrong. Doesn't that mean Gideon is kinda huffing bubble farts?
How is she still there? What proof? In the end, it's just her Radagon aspect, that's basically hijacking by the Elden Beast to fix the ring. There's no Marika anymore anywhere.

Gideon was told, by Marika, and wasn't going to lie to you, he was fully on board with you becoming Elden Lord and being your Majordomo, but had his chat with Marika which shattered his mind, as it does to everyone who Marika reveals her true nature too, Hewg, the Last Giant, Gideon, and likely others.

you do not kill Marika, the only one who does is Ranni, in all other endings, the Elden Ring and Marika are still intrinsically entwinned, she may be inert, but still "alive" and thus all her decree's are as well, I assume she burns to nothing with the Frenzy Flame but again, its not the nature of man that can kill her.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

Every single post of his is either him sucking his own dick and flexing how much of a geriatric he is or um ackshullying you like a smug redditor.

so like every post on this entire forum?

 

[Estate]

I'm gonna go wash my balls and sleep and then deal with your autistic ramblings tomorrow.
Maybe.

 

[BrainSand63]

I was playing ER and listening to the Kino Casino the other night and felt inspired

 

[Swine Schwein]

About the NPC limitations, I laughed when in Sekiro you had to "close your eyes" when Kuro moved from one spot to another.

I like the main philosophy of shit happening and NPCs moving places without you really knowing why and where. I just do. I can forgive a lot and embrace this quaint way of handling things. But the NPC limitations are just shit.

Why can't I fight dryleaf without the game loading some clumsy pocket dimension instance? Or Ensha? Why do enemy NPCs have to "invade" when it doesn't really make sense, they're in the same world you are but they have to be treated as ghosts by the game just to make it work. The gang fight with Leda and her friends felt very fucking weak too, the way they went about it.

I just hope they get over this weird fucking limp they've been having for ages. They're my favorite dev and actually amazing in many things, but some basic shit everyone else figured out ages ago seems impossible for them. It's kind of funny. Like they can pole vault and high jump like a motherfucker, but if they had to tie their shoes they somehow end up face first in rabbit shit and both shoes up their asshole

 

[Rick The Stick]

About the NPC limitations, I laughed when in Sekiro you had to "close your eyes" when Kuro moved from one spot to another.

I like the main philosophy of shit happening and NPCs moving places without you really knowing why and where. I just do. I can forgive a lot and embrace this quaint way of handling things. But the NPC limitations are just shit.

Why can't I fight dryleaf without the game loading some clumsy pocket dimension instance? Or Ensha? Why do enemy NPCs have to "invade" when it doesn't really make sense, they're in the same world you are but they have to be treated as ghosts by the game just to make it work. The gang fight with Leda and her friends felt very fucking weak too, the way they went about it.

I just hope they get over this weird fucking limp they've been having for ages. They're my favorite dev and actually amazing in many things, but some basic shit everyone else figured out ages ago seems impossible for them. It's kind of funny. Like they can pole vault and high jump like a motherfucker, but if they had to tie their shoes they somehow end up face first in rabbit shit and both shoes up their asshole

I don't think From is actually capable of doing more. If they were, every game wouldn't just be more additions to the Demon's skeleton. The only thing I think they can do with this souls style of game they've pigeonholed themselves into, is change how it looks at this point. Any other changes, like a change that makes the NPCs actually walk and travel like you do, would be such a drastic shift I doubt they've ever do it.

I'd almost rather see then try their hand at a more traditional open world/rpg than attempt to alter a formula they clearly have no intentions of spicing up even a little.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

I don't think From is actually capable of doing more. If they were, every game wouldn't just be more additions to the Demon's skeleton. The only thing I think they can do with this souls style of game they've pigeonholed themselves into, is change how it looks at this point. Any other changes, like a change that makes the NPCs actually walk and travel like you do, would be such a drastic shift I doubt they've ever do it.

I'd almost rather see then try their hand at a more traditional open world/rpg than attempt to alter a formula they clearly have no intentions of spicing up even a little.

while I agree with the Pig that they probably should change their engine, from their perspective, why should they?

Elden Ring sold like 30 million copies, Nightreign, a fucking asset flip, sold 5 million copies, they have effectively turned their tried and true formula into untold success considering the size of their Company.

 

[Estate]

I'm gonna go wash my balls and sleep and then deal with your autistic ramblings tomorrow.
Maybe.

I bluffed.
I don't care anymore to engage in futile discussion with this autistic nigger. He will continue to be autistic and a cock gobbler for his favourite jap corpo. Truly peak reddit.

I wanted to prove that there's nothing clear cut about the Elden Ring lore, it's just cool things vaguely stringed together.
I believe I achieved this, but it's up to the neutral third parties that witnessed the exchange, to be the judge.

I was playing ER and listening to the Kino Casino the other night and felt inspired

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Is that rivers of blood I see in the corner?

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

I don't care anymore to engage in futile discussion with this autistic nigger.

haha, I win.

 

[Swine Schwein]

I was playing ER and listening to the Kino Casino the other night and felt inspired

I like his omen brother more as a character but Mohg is just so much more fun to fight. I usually hate AoE hazard damage too so they did something right with the guy when his fire juice doesn't even make me emotionally constipated.

Also, considering the DLC, Mohg really did get felted. A lot. In the ass. His own ass, in the hole part of it

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

I was playing ER and listening to the Kino Casino the other night and felt inspired

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HE'S BRAINWASHED
HE'S OBSESSED WITH BLOOD
HE'S NEVER GETTING THAT DYNASTY

WOOOAAAAAAHHHH BUDDY.

 

[BrainSand63]

Is that rivers of blood I see in the corner?

That’s not a picture of my gameplay I just got it off google images, but I do use Rivers of Blood, it’s a great weapon

 

[Estate]

I like his omen brother more as a character but Mohg is just so much more fun to fight. I usually hate AoE hazard damage too so they did something right with the guy when his fire juice doesn't even make me emotionally constipated.

Also, considering the DLC, Mohg really did get felted. A lot. In the ass. His own ass, in the hole part of it

You forgot that Mohg gets mega felted by a flask.
One little flask and his whole aids blood gimmick is out the window.
Or you can nuke him with some magic blast while he's doing the slow walk.

Stuff like this is why I never take seriously Fromdrones when they suck off the game's difficulty.
The game is average at best in terms of difficulty. It's only difficult of you refuse to use it's mechanics or if the person is dented.

haha, I win.

True.
Here's your prize.