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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I know I'm not alone on this because I often hear people say the same thing. I can't stomach the monarchy. Absolutely hate it. But I had a respect for the Queen. A respect that has waned, because her eldest is a massive cunt and Andrew is a nonce.

Edward seems to be the only well-adjusted one

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I think Liz was fucking useless. Presided over the death of the nation without even a whisper of dissaproval.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I think Liz was fucking useless. Presided over the death of the nation without even a whisper of dissaproval.

They would've Edward VIII'd her if she spoke out of turn—the British monarchy is functionally a hostage of parliament and isn't allowed to say or do anything deemed to undermine it.
Anytime the monarch is said to have done something after 1689, it actually works like this:
Prime Minister "advises" (tells) monarch to do X -> Monarch does X -> It is recorded down as "Monarch does X on advise of Prime Minister" despite the monarch playing no functional role in doing anything. It's performative/ceremonial. They can't even dissolve parliament or veto bills, they can only do it after being "advised" by the PM. If we somehow had an ethno nationalist government in power, Charles would do an apparent 180 and his Christmas speech this year would include extolling the virtues of the white race.


Defending the monarchy/Liz puts you in a Catch-22 though given this argument just begs the question of, "What's the point of it then?"

 

[diroama]

I think when discussing the monarchy its alway important to distinguish between the institution and the person. As @>IMPLYING just mentioned, they don't actually have any real power. Liz was great, Charles I have no particular respect for but I think he'll do the job. William seems like a nice lad. I do wonder how much influence Elizabeth had over the years, meeting all the world leaders she did, and the conveyer belt of British prime ministers. Her unalloyed memoirs would have been a fascinating read. I can't decide if she would have simply gone through the motions, drank a cup of tea then waved them off, or had any actual input beyond matters directly affecting the monarchy. I guess we'll never really know.

The problem with the Royal family is that it's just too big. I'm not advocating for a cull, but I think streamlining how they are funded is long overdue. I think we can have a more modern royalty in the sense of the personnel, without resorting to electing a dwarf or a hamas fan like they have next door.

I'll always be a soft monarchist because the alternative is a four-yearly popularity contest between some washed up celebrity or has-been politician mawkishly vying for our affections. I like the fact that we have a head of state chosen not by some big brother style contest, but instead chosen by the random encounter of a spermatozoa with an egg in a royal womb. Frankly, I trust that process to result in a suitable head of state more than the choice that could be made by a populist flavour of the month get out the vote effort. In an age of distraction and low attention spans, it's not a bad thing to have a bit of permanance and sense of history that reminds us of what we once were.

The arguments to remove the monarchy all come from the worst people, for the worst reasons and amount to: if we had no monarchy, there would be more money to spend on my PIP payments. Fuck that: get a better job, give Charlie a new yacht.

 

[Otterly]

My gripe with Brits is they fundamentally don't understand how fucked they are

Oh we know

I'll always be a soft monarchist because the alternative is a four-yearly popularity contest between some washed up celebrity or has-been politician mawkishly vying for our affections.

The alternative is a president blair, so I’ll keep the monarchy for now.

 

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The alternative is a president blair, so I’ll keep the monarchy for now.

Why?

The monarchy is hugely internationalist due to ‘the commonwealth’ and will therefore never ever criticise immigration or be willing to state that ‘British’ means white natives.

William will be as bad or worse than Charles. That’s without even theorising about a ‘global cabal’ that they’re undoubtedly a part of.

The monarchy must go, to be replaced by an iron clad constitution that safeguards the rights of the native population above all others. ‘Native’ means at least one white British parent, anyone who thinks that’s too lax should get real, one white British parent as a condition for citizenship will almost certainly never happen but at least has a small chance, both parents is a fantasy.

If you come from a ‘prohibited’ country - Syria, Kurdistan, Somalia, Pakistan, a long list of others - then another condition for citizenship is at least twenty consecutive years of tax and NI contributions, it’s ten if you’re from a non-prohibited country (small list). These are just ‘conditions’ of citizenship, not guarantees. Laws must be changed, citizenship should be revoked for millions of existing ‘citizens’.

All this shit is just for starters.

 

[cancelmysubscription]

Bit of a weird one…

I have a burner Instagram account that I have never used, it is completely inactive - no followers/following, never sent/received a message, etc.

At most they’ve got my age and location and may be able to form some vague idea of my ‘interests’ from whenever I’ve clicked on an Instagram profile/link since I’ve had it, but that’s very rare and inconsistent.

I got a notification out of the blue with this:


The only notifications I’ve had in the past have been ‘people I may know’.

This to me is just a random dissemination of belittling propaganda about Reform.

Just a random drop based on age/location probably.

This is one of the biggest tech companies in the world doing random mail outs of ‘anti-Reform’ shit to anyone with an account. There was no account activity that could’ve guided the algorithm to give me this. You could never, ever imagine the same happening with a ‘look at these freaks’ shot of three Green candidates.

 

[diroama]

They need to have some paki as his final evolution.

 

[Oxyjen]

This is one of the biggest tech companies in the world doing random mail outs of ‘anti-Reform’ shit to anyone with an account.

I think it’s more likely that whoever wrote the Pokémon tweet paid to have it promoted in a specific geographic location, which you happen to be in.
It is a form of campaigning, how legal it is I don’t know.

 

[Breadbassket]

Why?

The monarchy is hugely internationalist due to ‘the commonwealth’ and will therefore never ever criticise immigration or be willing to state that ‘British’ means white natives.

William will be as bad or worse than Charles. That’s without even theorising about a ‘global cabal’ that they’re undoubtedly a part of.

The monarchy must go, to be replaced by an iron clad constitution that safeguards the rights of the native population above all others. ‘Native’ means at least one white British parent, anyone who thinks that’s too lax should get real, one white British parent as a condition for citizenship will almost certainly never happen but at least has a small chance, both parents is a fantasy.

If you come from a ‘prohibited’ country - Syria, Kurdistan, Somalia, Pakistan, a long list of others - then another condition for citizenship is at least twenty consecutive years of tax and NI contributions, it’s ten if you’re from a non-prohibited country (small list). These are just ‘conditions’ of citizenship, not guarantees. Laws must be changed, citizenship should be revoked for millions of existing ‘citizens’.

All this shit is just for starters.

The monarchy relished in prestigious glory as the United Kingdom became the British Empire, now unless anything drastically changes it still lives in an ostentatious state as the country it's supposed to rule over declines and the institution refuses to rock the boat. If a ceremonial presidency dependent on whoever is the ruling party replaced the position of a king, it wouldn't be a huge improvement by any means but you have to take the good with the bad either way.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Is it late enough in the year that I can bitch about the weather yet? It's too hot and too bright I want the snow back. I think I know the reason why all the arabs make all the oil and fund the anti nuclear propaganda. Climate change is a muslim invention designed to make it too hot to walk my dog. I think maybe I need to look into buying one of those standalone ac units and a portable generator, she's probably big enough that she can pull it around on a sled maybe? I cannot help it, my British genes have detected a temperature over 10c and decided that I should dehydrate myself and dump every ounce of water out of my body through my skin.

At most they’ve got my age and location and may be able to form some vague idea of my ‘interests’ from whenever I’ve clicked on an Instagram profile/link since I’ve had it, but that’s very rare and inconsistent.

You heavily heavily underestimate how much of a fucking dystopian evil company facebook is. It does not matter how little you have done on that account they will still know everything about you. What did you sign up with? If it was a burner email then what's the recovery email for it? Are you switching between instagram and literally anything else that might be identifiable? Even with a vpn. What phone are you using, or what window size is it on pc, what keyboard, what times are you using it? Every single one of those things will come together and they will be able to guess who you are if they can't just straight up link accounts by the emails or passwords or anything like that.

Facebook is not a massive company because it makes a good product. Facebook is a massive company because it collects an insane amount of data on every single person. Almost anything you do online facebook is recording it somewhere. They're not a social media company, they're a data collection company with a chat feature stuck to the side. They have been scraping and collecting information harder than any ai does and for much longer. Facebook does not just monitor traffic to their sites, they monitor all internet traffic. Facebook knows when your period is, they know when you're laying awake in bed, they know when you're sick. They know more about you than you do. But also you can just pay for an ad to target a specific area or it might be because the post is going 'viral' in your local area and so it's just pushing it to you because it assumes you'll probably like it too.

I'd love to see the inverse of that post though. Wow look at all these pakis they look so similar haha loooooooool. And see how long that lasts before being removed. Just stick three people in a burka on there and go lol they all look so similar. I had a quick look and there's several people that look just like those guys for the other parties too. The area is fucking 99% white so yea of course there's going to be a load of white people.

 

[Overly Serious]

Is it late enough in the year that I can bitch about the weather yet? It's too hot and too bright I want the snow back. I think I know the reason why all the arabs make all the oil and fund the anti nuclear propaganda. Climate change is a muslim invention designed to make it too hot to walk my dog. I think maybe I need to look into buying one of those standalone ac units and a portable generator, she's probably big enough that she can pull it around on a sled maybe? I cannot help it, my British genes have detected a temperature over 10c and decided that I should dehydrate myself and dump every ounce of water out of my body through my skin.

Poppcock and balderdash, sir. Show some backbone. Are you an Englishman or not?

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Are you an Englishman or not?

I'm more of a 'sit in the bog and watch birds' Englishman than a 'off on this year's third holiday to magaluf/ibiza' Englishman. Also the dog isn't mad, yea maybe she's french but it's only french people that are mad, not everything from france.

 

[Otterly]

Is it late enough in the year that I can bitch about the weather yet? It's too hot and too bright

W..w..where do you live? (Not near me, clearly…)

 

[East_Clintwood]

Is it late enough in the year that I can bitch about the weather yet? It's too hot and too bright I want the snow back. I think I know the reason why all the arabs make all the oil and fund the anti nuclear propaganda. Climate change is a muslim invention designed to make it too hot to walk my dog. I think maybe I need to look into buying one of those standalone ac units and a portable generator, she's probably big enough that she can pull it around on a sled maybe? I cannot help it, my British genes have detected a temperature over 10c and decided that I should dehydrate myself and dump every ounce of water out of my body through my skin.

There are times like today when I'm outside a bunch and question why I moved to the US (or at least to Texas), then I get to go back inside and remember that aircon is possibly the greatest thing humans ever invented

 

[femboy fart huffer]

W..w..where do you live? (Not near me, clearly…)

I mean it's been between 15-20c here recently. It's not hot it's just that it's too warm to be taking my dumb polar bear with foot long hair for lunchtime walks outside of a short walk to go to the toilet, or her owner that's whiter than her. That's too hot for me and I want the snow back. And when the people built our house they decided that yea put the windows facing the sun so it'll be nice and bright which is cool aside from the start of Spring and end of Summer when it's at the perfect height and intensity to be just strong enough to get through the blackout curtains and just strong enough to disturb me.

aircon is possibly the greatest thing humans ever invented

Yea spend a grand a month on heating in the winter and then that again in ac during summer.

 

[GratsTheat783]

Why is the guy saying that the 'far right' part was a joke? That's not a 'just kidding' that is literally what is happening? Those are the violent far right thugs.

Despite the fact that Islam and a lot of Muslims are in fact far-right, the label is typically used to refer to white people.

You heavily heavily underestimate how much of a fucking dystopian evil company facebook is. It does not matter how little you have done on that account they will still know everything about you.

Reminds me a few years ago when I'd bought the LOTR books off of Amazon and, despite never stating or looking up anything about them on the site, Facebook started recommending me LOTR fan pages.

Unfortunately my family also insist on having an Alexa in the house despite the obvious privacy concerns.

 

[Otterly]

I'm more of a 'sit in the bog and watch birds' Englishman

I hope you mean a hide, and the avian type, rather than the toilet and women.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

I hope you mean a hide, and the avian type, rather than the toilet and women.

Unfortunately due to the economy I am no longer able to afford my personal toilet pole dancer.

 

[Otterly]

Unfortunately due to the economy I am no longer able to afford my personal toilet pole dancer.

**do not say don’t you have your own pole… do not say it do not say it..**

I hope you’ve seen some good marshland birds anyway.