Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

Then what the fuck are we doing in Iran?, why did we get involved in another war in the Middle East?
iran has spent almost 50 years chanting death to america, funding anti american terrorism, and directly committing acts of terrorism against americans. this isnt "another war in the middle east", its a prolonged conflict that america is a party of no matter how much you pretend you can just ignore it
 
Nah bro you don't understand, there would have been absolutely no consequences if we just let the death-cult theocracy peacefully fund global terrorism and peacefully work their way to a nuclear weapon. That darn Drumpf created a real problem out of nothing,
 
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30 million dead military age muslims? Finally Iran brings something tempting to the negotiating table.

Then what the fuck are we doing in Iran?, why did we get involved in another war in the Middle East?
Because the country that says "death to america" like a daily prayer was fucking around too much and in need of finding out.

Pretty retarded question tbh (though that's not uncommon for you)
 
Yeah, them getting a nuke makes things much more complicated and makes attacks against them less likely but it doesn't make it impossible nor reduce the chances to zero or near-zero.
Right, nukes are just an obstacle military planners just have to get around to, and not the massive, MASSIVE fucking risk it really is for any major military power looking to fight this hypothetical nuclear armed state.

Isn't it a coincidence that we don't even dare touch any of our other nuclear-armed adversaries?, the Soviet Union during the cold war being the big one, or even the modern Russian Federation in its own war in Ukraine, where we don't even send the military aid we used to after Trump cut that off, the same Trump who also dressed down Zelensky for "Gambling with World War 3", so, he clearly is acutely aware of the risk on bringing any further western support against Russia entails.

And what about China on the Taiwan question?, the United States maintains a policy of "Strategic Ambiguity", and it's never been concrete on whether we would intervene on Taiwan's behalf if they ever tried to invade the island, you think that fact that they have nuclear weapons might not have something to do with that?, the fact that we don't know what the risks of having two nuclear powers going at it on a major war looks like?
 
The UAE called Trump the "President of the friendly United States of America" in their statement condemning the assassination attempt:
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Curiously, they only said that in their Arabic version; the official English translation doesn't use that language:
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So much for the "GCC hates Trump for shutting down their oil production" narrative Iranian shills were pushing.
 
The UAE called Trump the "President of the friendly United States of America" in their statement condemning the assassination attempt:
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Curiously, they only said that in their Arabic version; the official English translation doesn't use that language:
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So much for the "GCC hates Trump for shutting down their oil production" narrative Iranian shills were pushing.
Of course they would. Trump is about to hand them / a filthy rich nation - $50o million to bail
Out UAE airlines.

He is being bribed. As usual.
 
An honest question: do any people reading this thread have the slightest understanding the sheer scale of the damage done through the strait being closed and what is inevitably coming economically to the globe and at the USA as a result, and that the costs you see today pale to what is absolutely coming on the horizon?
Guys, fighting Iran is too hard. Let’s go home.
 
Right, nukes are just an obstacle military planners just have to get around to, and not the massive, MASSIVE fucking risk it really is for any major military power looking to fight this hypothetical nuclear armed state.
the difference is that even with a nuke iran lacks the capability to launch it at the states directly. the most they can do is threaten israel, europe and the gcc states. thats enough reason to go after them and prevent them from getting one but it wouldnt stop america from fighting back at all, only give iran more leverage through threats to american allies
 
Israel sent an "Iron Dome" battery and soldiers to the Emirates during the war with Iran

PM Netanyahu ordered the IDF to send an Iron Dome battery with interceptors and several dozen IDF operators, following a conversation with the President of the United Arab Emirates, Mohamed bin Zayed, according to Israeli officials.

This was the first time Israel sent an Iron Dome battery to another country, and the UAE was the first country outside the US and Israel where the system was used, a senior Israeli official said.

The system intercepted dozens of Iranian missiles, according to another Israeli official.

Barak Ravid

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Then what the fuck are we doing in Iran?, why did we get involved in another war in the Middle East?
The MIC needs my money, Muslims need to die, and I need entertainment. Call it a triangle trade.
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Iranian journalists were shown the seized “MSC Epaminondas” in the Strait of Hormuz.
As we speak, the Helvetii are sending their mightiest whirlpool druids down the Rhône to avenge this slight.
 
That guy I was responding to had a dumb opinion that I got mad at, so I asked him a question that challenges his worldview that "America doesn't get involved in global conflicts", it's not my fault he was being retarded.
His point was not challenged by your question and it only made you look stupid. You should probably not be engaging if you're actually MATI about opinions.

you said current events are "the number one cause of global conflict"

His point is "we do not care"

We care about Iran because it involves us, if some other fuck off country in Africa or elsewhere goes into a melty over hormuz related shortages, that's not our problem.

The person you're MATI about is just saying we aren't playing world police, not that we won't engage in our own interests. This shit is really not complex and you just keep doing this almost daily.
 
That guy I was responding to had a dumb opinion that I got mad at, so I asked him a question that challenges his worldview that "America doesn't get involved in global conflicts", it's not my fault he was being retarded.
youre the one being retarded by acting disingenuous and pretending this is some generic "global conflict" rather than a direct conflict between america and a country led by fanatics who want america destroyed. being half the globe away doesnt somehow make it not americas problem to deal with. would you say the japan vs america war in ww2 was a "global conflict" that america should have ignored simply because japan is far away?
 
Can't help but wonder how a modern day Operation Fortitude would look like. Some fake leaks on the Warthunder forums, a few tweets and shitty photos by totaly legit soldiers, some fake AMA on /pol/ which conveniently gets deleted by the jannies and once the broocsfags and other usual suspects take notice it'll spread around like wildfire.


You are one dumb fuck. Disregarding their funding of leftists/islamic terrorism, Venezuela and Iran are also providers of oil for China and a key part of both those conflicts is rendering the Chinese more and more dependent on American controlled oil, helping secure US hegemony and further discouraging an invasion of Taiwan. Cuba is at most an entry vector into the US but can easily be taken care of and in time with some investment turned into a potential ally in the region.

Yes, you are correct those aren't threats on the scale of other powers but by getting them out of the picture you are weakening the ones you have a reason to be worried about. Russia now has to send Iran supplies rather than the other way around, China now has to decide between helping Russia and Iran while also being forced to buy American oil which ain't the most productive course for their Petroyuan ambition. There's this obscure conflict you might wanna read up on.
If you are implying the reason for aggression against Venezuela and Iran is to secretly obtain leverage over China than that’s pretty silly. China has access to oil from many countries and was merely enjoying slightly lower prices. Squeezing China for a little
More money on oil is like hitting the Trump hotel with a 2 cent orice increase per roll of toilet paper. Their trade imbalance can easily
Absorb it for tha intrinsic reason as well as the fact that they are at peak use almost now and have a heavily diversified energy grid. They also have oil reserves that they aren’t drilling, they are saving it for war.

If this is your idea of master chess for taking Venezuela and stopping Iranian oil to defeat China, then you should fold now.

China has rare earth metals and can easily twist the USA in trade as needed and has done so which is why Trump has failed to do shit with China. China also only has 10% of their exports going to the USA and the days of China being reliant on USA trade to survive are over. We can cause inconvenience, but have no kill shot left.
 
His point was not challenged by your question and it only made you look stupid. You should probably not be engaging if you're actually MATI about opinions.

you said current events are "the number one cause of global conflict"

His point is "we do not care"

We care about Iran because it involves us, if some other fuck off country in Africa or elsewhere goes into a melty over hormuz related shortages, that's not our problem.

The person you're MATI about is just saying we aren't playing world police, not that we won't engage in our own interests. This shit is really not complex and you just keep doing this almost daily.
So, all of the cool military stuff?, you'll be proud of it and own it, but the consequences?, that's for everyone else to deal with.

uh huh

youre the one being retarded by acting disingenuous and pretending this is some generic "global conflict" rather than a direct conflict between america and a country led by fanatics who want america destroyed. being half the globe away doesnt somehow make it not americas problem to deal with. would you say the japan vs america war in ww2 was a "global conflict" that america should have ignored simply because japan is far away?
I'm not saying that the Iran war is inconsequential to the United States, in particular to its own interests in the Middle East (protecting Israel and the other Gulf states), I'm not even completely against Iran war in the first place, it just sounds like I don't for acknowledging the far reaching consequences this war brings everywhere else (and that includes back home).

If you are implying the reason for aggression against Venezuela and Iran is to secretly obtain leverage over China than that’s pretty silly. China has access to oil from many countries and was merely enjoying slightly lower prices. Squeezing China for a little
More money on oil is like hitting the Trump hotel with a 2 cent orice increase per roll of toilet paper. Their trade imbalance can easily
Absorb it for tha intrinsic reason as well as the fact that they are at peak use almost now and have a heavily diversified energy grid. They also have oil reserves that they aren’t drilling, they are saving it for war.

If this is your idea of master chess for taking Venezuela and stopping Iranian oil to defeat China, then you should fold now.

China has rare earth metals and can easily twist the USA in trade as needed and has done so which is why Trump has failed to do shit with China. China also only has 10% of their exports going to the USA and the days of China being reliant on USA trade to survive are over. We can cause inconvenience, but have no kill shot left.
This has nothing to do with China at all, we could just blockade the strait of Malacca and bam, massive portion of Chinese imports of energy is gone, they could get reliant more and more on Russia in lieu of Middle Eastern oil, but I heard the existing infrastructure is nowhere near enough to replace that amount of energy yet, and we all know about China not being too reliant on a single source.

That's in the event of total war though, that's a level of escalation that would fuck up the world economy (and the US economy as well) so much more than even in the current crisis in Hormuz.
 
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So, all of the cool military stuff?, you'll be proud of it and own it, but the consequences?, that's for everyone else to deal with.
If the consequences involve them and not us? yeah that's for them to sort out.

Believe it or not. I think Australia is responsible for managing their fuel reserves and diversifying their energy imports. I do not care that their diesel prices are through the roof.

I believe Germany is responsible for their domestic energy policy and that they are retards for closing their nuclear plants, I do not care if fuel prices are rough on their energy sector.

I believe that the problems of countries are only ever going to be properly addressed by the countries themselves and I do not think that the entire world and every possible ripple effect falls under the jurisdiction of the United States as being our responsibility.

I do not expect the United States to put aside it's own interests because of second and third order effects on other nations that they should be sorting out themselves in the first place. Welcome to "America First"
 
>citing Pakistani sources
How much more humiliation can this pathetic excuse for a nuclear power endure before they implode from a critical Izzat shortage?
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I am so fucking sick of the constant flip flopping on whether someone should go to Islamabad or not, it has been happening multiple times a day
Believe it or not. I think Australia is responsible for managing their fuel reserves and diversifying their energy imports. I do not care that their diesel prices are through the roof.

I believe Germany is responsible for their domestic energy policy and that they are retards for closing their nuclear plants, I do not care if fuel prices are rough on their energy sector.
it's not just fuel prices elsewhere, its happening right here, but I guess that just my problem for living in the northeast.
 
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