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I am begging for a a single modern day manifesto not to read like a teen suicide note.
I was watching a random video on one of these fucks and the manifesto was incredible. I wish I remembered which one it was. Dude got voted "Most Likely To Be A School Shooter" in the unofficial yearbook and the manifesto was full of "You thought I was normal. You never saw this coming!"
 
As others have pointed out, a lot of this is just mindless parroting for the sake of optics, but I can confirm from my personal life that a lot of otherwise rational people are actually denying reality. A difference from normal conspiracy theories I've noticed is that these aren't held deeply as deeply held as mainstream ones. The people I've talked to IRL about this haven't put up a lot of resistance to basic counterarguments like you'd expect from an actual Truther. Partially, I suspect this is because there isn't a wealth of detail that fuels continual scrutiny and most of the theories originate from arguing on Twitter over blurry cell phone footage.

My personal theory is that this whole phenomenon is the end result of severe cognitive dissonance on a mass scale. I'm not sure if there's any historical precedent for the kind of psychological reaction we're seeing. Liberals are simply unable to accept that this is what they've been reduced to: cheering for suicidal nutjobs to commit politicized gun violence. It goes against everything that has defined their political views for the last 30 years. A lot of this is because of their entrenched belief that we have managed to successfully to put ourselves on track for the Star Trek future exclusively via peaceful social change. Some influential examples of this line of thought include The End of History and the Last Man, and The Emerging Democratic Majority.

This is abundantly obvious to the posters in this thread, but the political reversals from the Obama-era have been mindbreaking for many normal people. The mental safety net your NPR-listening coworker had in place has been slowly becoming harder and harder to maintain faith in. The fact that nationalism and tradition have not been totally evaporated through the scientific rigor of globohomo ideology is source of existential dread for many normie liberals. Why? Because it implies that progressive social democracy is an imperfect system that has no inherent value to it. Many liberals hold the subconscious belief that all third-world hell holes are only the way they are because they haven't democracy'd away their dystopias yet. To make realistic arguments about the external effects that geography, demographics, and culture is a source of distress because that implies that their political system (which essentially doubles as a religion) is not the panacea that they have been brought up to believe.

How this relates to the current predicament of political violence in the US is twofold: they are unable to accept that pacifism has failed to deliver utopian results and they lack the ideological depth needed to understand the role of violence in political history. The very democratic system we use to (ideally) avoid the use of violence, was itself developed through multiple deadly conflicts. It's simply a reality that every successful social change, positive or negative, either overtly or implicitly uses violence to achieve its goals. The difference depends on understanding the appropriate use of force rather than avoiding it on a matter of principle. This is why the shift to hawkishness from liberals regarding the Ukrainian War came off as so jarring for me. The same people who want to disarm the populace, pursue restorative justice policies, and abolish national borders were cheering on a violent enthonationalist conflict where you can watch memes of soldiers getting blown to pieces or summarily executed.

The point I'm trying here to make is that this bizarre NPC-like shift in thinking is the result of having a massive blind spot in their worldview regarding violence mixed with the continued discouragement of independent thought. They simply don't have the vocabulary to explain why force is necessary to defend "their democracy" nor what parameters its use should follow. The somewhat more aware ones will attempt to soothe their psyche by playing the same word-games they did with Charlie Kirk ("I don't support what happened but they had it coming"), but many have been opting to straight up deny this is the world they're living in ("LOOK HE'S WEARING A MCDONALDS SHIRT, THE HAMBURGLER SET THIS UP").

In both cases, but mostly the latter, this stems from a desire to avoid having to confront some very ugly truths about the world. Casting everything as a psyop or inside job assigns a level of control for the external world. It's somewhat counterintuitive, but these kinds of conspiracy theories are more often used as source of comfort for the people who engage with them. Because in this view, even though the state of the world might be undesirable, at least someone's controlling it. Otherwise, you might have to consider the possibility that nobody's controlling it and we exist in perpetual state of genuine uncertainty. This can be a very, very challenging idea to deal with, especially when you've been discouraged from doing so for multiple generations. TLDR; Liberals are short-circuiting because their boomer parents' utopian view of the future didn't come true and they have no frame of reference for understanding why.
Basically every liberal in 2026 is Moviebob. He was just ahead of the curve.
That was my thought, too.

A fucking .38 to try to rush security to assassinate the President of the United States of America.

That Secret Service agent probably would have been fine without the bulletproof vest as long as his shirt was starched sufficiently.
It's not .38 special, they specified it was a semi-automatic and the only ones chambered for it are niche target pistols from 50 years ago. .38 super which is almost certainly what they mean in factory loadings is basically just more expensive and harder to find 9mm, but he can still get them in California. My only question is why he'd go out of his way for one, the gun itself must have been the cheapest thing in a pawn shop that didn't look like a total piece of shit.
 
well as im watching the video
so the principal said his fascination with CP started from meeting people on Reddit
and roleplay sex online... and from those reddit groups he joined their discord communtiies.

so theres a chance he probably had multiple phones to do multiple RPs in the same discord server with different accounts

i dont know, trying to rationalize why a guy has 13 phones
but your reasoning is also more plausible.
I'm willing to throw him into a woodchipper and let the rest be a mystery.
 
Objection 1: As a Christian, you should turn the other cheek.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed. I’m not the person raped in a detention camp. I’m not the fisherman executed without trial. I’m not a schoolkid blown up or a child starved or a teenage girl abused by the many criminals in this administration.

Turning the other cheek when *someone else* is oppressed is not Christian behavior; it is complicity in the oppressor’s crimes.
This isn't what turning the other cheek means, and as an educator I would expect him to know better. Slapping someone in the face in ancient Israel wasn't done to injure, it was done as an insult. This is the reason why Jesus said to turn the other cheek. The retaliation wasn't to repay physical assault by getting physical back, it was repaying insult with insult.
 
AAAA!!! OUR DEMOCRACY IS UNDER ATTACK *Attempts to kill the guy who won by popular vote*

You know, one could probably come to begrudgingly respect their "conviction" if they weren't such hypocritical retards devoid of principles
Democracy means the democrats win! They're the main characters of history, their theater troupe and manager and grievance bullshit studies professors said so! The founding fathers could never have envisioned a future in which Killery or Niggerjeet Kamala lost! PROGRESS MEANS PROGRESSIVISM ITS IN THE NAME

Their principles are power. Anything that gets them more power is good, anything that costs them power is bad, anything that gives others power is unthinkable. Once you understand this, once you understand morality and ethics are only a weapon they'll use to take more power for themselves and to disarm others of their power, you'll understand the left.

You literally cannot hate them enough. They would kill you and put your children in work reeducation camps and they'd be proud of doing it. They've done it before and they'll do it again if they can.

Wtf? Am I understanding it right, he wanted to *spare* the jeet? Why?
The same way my raid groups gets pissed if I dispel the DOT on the boss. Leaving the jeet in place does more damage than taking him out.

President Trump: Well, my thought was, "You know, I've been through this before a couple of times." And-- she has not to this extent. She handled it great. I mean, she was-- she's-- very strong, smart. She got it. She knew what was happening. She listened. I did too, by the way,
Literally the meme people were sharing.

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It's not .38 special, they specified it was a semi-automatic and the only ones chambered for it are niche target pistols from 50 years ago. .38 super which is almost certainly what they mean in factory loadings is basically just more expensive and harder to find 9mm, but he can still get them in California. My only question is why he'd go out of his way for one, the gun itself must have been the cheapest thing in a pawn shop that didn't look like a total piece of shit.
I'm starting to think that this guy makes some pretty questionable decisions.
 
And I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.
LOL
FUCKING LOL
FUCKING LMAO
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I hope every retard that repeated that shit on this website realizes that even they were born white, their hands are now brown.
 
what the FUCK? How the fuck do you afford that many?
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The next crop of mass shooters will just have Chatgpt spit out a 30k word essay.
This guy absolutely used GPT (or a similar LLM) to write this manifesto lol
Like not copy-paste but definitely "copy, tweak a few things, paste"

There's a very particular flow and this weirdly saccharine tone to it, he probably edited it but the whole "point-counterpoint" style alongside that annoying as fuck stilted
"Declarative statement.
Declarative statement.
Declarative statement."

shit is chat gippity, it's trained on gazillions of young-adult literature that all do that same fucking annoying thing.
Starting several sentences off with Like, Like, Like and the droning Thank You To thing.
Randomly capitalizing Hotel Security and Secret Service
 
What amazes me is how fast the manifesto was dropped for the public to see. the last few times some reddit-brained psycho went on a shooting spree, they tried to lock the manifesto up like fort knox, but this one was just dropped the very next day. thats what striking me as the most odd thing out of all of this.
 
Ah yes, buckshot. Nothing screams trying to minimize casualties like shooting multiple projectiles at once in a crowded room.
I mean, buckshot would maintain a reasonably tight spread at the range he was going to use it at and is less likely to over penetrate, so it's not as though there isn't at least some thread of logic. The dumb part is that buckshot is notoriously crap against body armor... like the kind the security at a presidential event wears. This man really thought he was going to get bullet time and be able to put a shell in each person he didn't like before anyone shot back.
Leftoids are just gun-dumb as all hell. They always make weird esoteric choices. Surprised he didn't bring an SKS or a Mosin knowing how they love to larp
Even beyond not knowing their weapons, they willingly vote for and play footsoldier to people who want them disarmed. It's just as likely a lot of them have much more limited options in what they can own without getting doorknocked.
For non-gun people, those are two of the cheapest and shittiest guns you can buy.
It's a good thing that people retarded enough to ruin their own lives and try to play hitman don't actually think far enough into the future to hone themselves or get decent equipment.
 
I've been on an online sabbatical and come back just as some shit goes down.

You think the Trump admin is finally gonna kick the repression into gear or no.....?
 
They are trooning out the Holocaust survivors now.

What amazes me is how fast the manifesto was dropped for the public to see. the last few times some reddit-brained psycho went on a shooting spree, they tried to lock the manifesto up like fort knox, but this one was just dropped the very next day. thats what striking me as the most odd thing out of all of this.
I wonder if this is an effect of getting rid of Bondi, even not too long ago they werent this quick.
 
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