Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

[Fat At The Internet]

Josh is actually antinatalist for finding the little girl in robot game to be weird and uncanny, or something.

Preservetube

Ah yeah, I remember that guy.

 

[Steel Billet]

A lolicon got over 50k likes after making false grooming claim against someone who called out a lolicon.

Post in thread 'Chibi Reviews / Jacob "Jake" W Seibers / Chibi Otaku'

Apr 26, 2026

Chibi, a man who always respects the sanctity of words like pedophile and groomer, has promoted a clearly false grooming allegation. L/A

The user they are talking about is Charlotte: the "long way down" girl. L/A, L/A

Here are the tweets the community notes links to as evidence of grooming. L/A, L/A

Now already, I have a lot of problems with the grooming claim. The first is that Melodi's post is clearly a joke. The second is that Charlotte...

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[Ghoul Road]

I completely agree, but I notice that even after discussing how male victims are ignored, all of those examples are about female victims.

"I know you're right but I still want something to complain about so I subconsciously feel like I won" is essentially what you're saying. I tried to extend the olive branch, so to say, and not be a dick to you. If you feel the need to act like this, you lack the objectivity to handle this topic. I don't remember you providing examples of male victims yet you talk a whole lot about the lack of consideration for said individuals. I encourage you to take time to reflect and fix your bitchy attitude, because that mindset is making things more difficult. More people would be willing to engage with you if you weren't always looking for problems, as you were in this scenario.

 

[Marquis de Cow]

I completely agree, but I notice that even after discussing how male victims are ignored, all of those examples are about female victims.

male victims are overlooked because men are the ones that romantize and look over it

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

Saying pedophiles shouldn't have children isn't "anti-natalist". It's just common sense. Someone who's attracted to children would probably molest any child that they have. Being actually anti-natalist would be saying NO ONE should have children. Lolipedos always twist what people say in the stupidest bad faith ways. They know that by being a pedo creep, they're already in the wrong, so they have to project onto everyone else and try to make others look as bad as they are. But it doesn't work on anyone. The only people convinced are the other lolipedos circlejerking each other off about it. It comes across more like they're trying to convince themselves. Because no one normal has ever been convinced by their Reddit-tier arguments for why "CP is a good thing actually".

Edit: Another reason why lolicons should never have children is because I see a lot of them having an odd focus on having DAUGHTERS specifically. Some of them are more blatant about wanting a "daughter-wife". And others try to pretend like it's in a wholesome manner. But if you're truly a wholesome family guy, why are you so obsessed with the idea of a daughter in particular? It's so very clear they want to sexualize their own daughter. Otherwise, they wouldn't be obsessed with the idea of having a daughter in specific, just having kids in general, regardless of sex. But they can't jack off to little boys.

 

[Autistic Sea Lion]

Yes, ppl in places like asmongold’s community and KIA subreddit are embracing pragmata precisely because they know some people don’t like it and lolicons are hiding among their ranks.

The KIA subreddit is full of lolicons and lolberts who are freedom extremists, but those two usually go hand in hand anyways. They think anybody who disagrees with them or finds sexualized children disgusting is a filthy communist, or better yet their most favorite word: “tourist”.

Saying pedophiles shouldn't have children isn't "anti-natalist". It's just common sense. Someone who's attracted to children would probably molest any child that they have.

Not everyone deserves to procreate or have children, and pedophiles are definitely fucking one of them. If these people really cared about children, they would not be saying stuff like this, that it’s “anti-natalist” to be against pedos having children. It’s actually more anti-children to say that pedophiles should have children. That is considered an endangerment of the child, and you are essentially saying that you support that endangerment and the very high likelihood of the child being harmed or abused. These people are not pro-natalists, they are only “pro-natalists” in the sense of having and encouraging more and easier access to children that they can abuse. These sick fucks don’t deserve children, they deserve to get hanged off of trees.

 

[Detractor Truck]

React to the Rev video on it and agree with the lolicon king.

 

[Bioniclelover]

Saying pedophiles shouldn't have children isn't "anti-natalist". It's just common sense. Someone who's attracted to children would probably molest any child that they have. Being actually anti-natalist would be saying NO ONE should have children. Lolipedos always twist what people say in the stupidest bad faith ways. They know that by being a pedo creep, they're already in the wrong, so they have to project onto everyone else and try to make others look as bad as they are. But it doesn't work on anyone. The only people convinced are the other lolipedos circlejerking each other off about it. It comes across more like they're trying to convince themselves. Because no one normal has ever been convinced by their Reddit-tier arguments for why "CP is a good thing actually".

Edit: Another reason why lolicons should never have children is because I see a lot of them having an odd focus on having DAUGHTERS specifically. Some of them are more blatant about wanting a "daughter-wife". And others try to pretend like it's in a wholesome manner. But if you're truly a wholesome family guy, why are you so obsessed with the idea of a daughter in particular? It's so very clear they want to sexualize their own daughter. Otherwise, they wouldn't be obsessed with the idea of having a daughter in specific, just having kids in general, regardless of sex. But they can't jack off to little boys.

"Pragmata promotes family" in itself is a ridiculous statement. For starters, you ain't gonna make a family alone, you need to actually have sex with a 3D woman to do that and this is very clearly male-oriented game that won't convince any women to have children.

Noone is going to fucking start a family because of playing Pragmata lol

Edit: misquote

 

[MaximKnight76]

Apparently the OG Pragmata sub Reddit is back on but I looked through and didn't see anything suspect

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pragmata/

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

Lolipedos are similar to those True Crime fans who idolize school shooters and then go on to mimic the school shooters in real-life, actually shooting and killing people. Drawing fanart of school shooters or drawing porn of children is not normal behavior.

They like to compare pedophilic media to "violent videogames", but I think that's a bad faith apples-to-oranges comparison. A more similar comparison to lolicon is the True Crime fandom who genuinely act like murder is a cutesy/cool/edgy and good thing.

Going to elaborate further on my point, since "if you're against lolicon then you're against violent videogames" is a common flawed lolicon defense argument.

If you're ever seen a piece of media where there is a rape scene, usually the act of rape is not framed in a positive light for the viewer. Violent videogames usually do not portray murder, for the sake of pure bloodlust, in a positive light. Usually, there's a reason for the shooting you're doing in them. Things like first-person shooters are typically about opposing military factions, stopping terrorists, or being a superhero. Granted, there are some games like the Postal series, where you are genuinely playing as a psychopath on a killing spree. But Postal's protagonist is still clearly portrayed as a crazy mentally ill person. Not someone to look up to.

The thing with lolicon, is that it genuinely romanticizes child rape, and is typically written in a way where it portrays the child as "wanting it" or "enjoying it". You're also not fapping to violent videogames, but these people do fap to lolicon, so they're conditioning themselves to be turned on by children (See the concept of "Pavlovian conditioning"). When groomers tell their child victims, "You're so mature for your age", I think it's both 1) manipulation to get the child to feel like they're special, and 2) I think some of the pedophiles even trick themselves into believing that the children are more mature than they actually are. Pedophiles usually have deluded themselves into thinking what they're doing is "not that bad". This is why they always use the "teenager is close to an adult anyway" defense.

Psychological studies have been done which prove repeated fapping to things like this desensitize the viewer to it and lead to them having less empathy for actual real victims. Even just in their politics, you can tell fapping to 5-year-old anime girls has completely warped their worldview. They think little girls are "purer" than adult women, not as "tainted" by the modern world. So they justify wanting an underaged partner because they think adult women are "too tainted" and "couldn't possibly give them what they want". What you fap to doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Now, let's talk about the "True Crime Community (TCC) fandom", also known commonly as the "Columbine fandom", since the 1999 Columbine school shooting is one of the most popular cases they latch onto. This isn't the same as people watching true crime documentaries to understand criminal psychology. I am talking about the Tumblr/TikTok users who make fan edits of school shooters, draw fanart of them, cosplay as them, ship them, and even make porn of them. Many of these people have gone on to try to reenact their own copycat mass shootings. There's a whole list of Columbine copycats.

They obsessively research these cases and like to read the journals/manifestos of the shooters. These fans are usually lonely and very mentally ill themselves, so they identify heavily with the shooters. They desensitize themselves so heavily to the idea of committing a mass shooting, and have grown so attached to the shooters they idolize, that they begin to see nothing wrong with the actions. Most are already suicidal to begin with, so their line of thinking is "If I'm going to already kill myself, why not get revenge too when I do it?". A lot of them view the shooters as the "true victims" because of their mental illness. Similar to how a lot of pedophiles will feel like they're an "oppressed minority" for having a "taboo sexuality". They overempathize with the perpetrators (school shooters or pedophiles) and do not empathize at all with the victims (the killed people or the children raped). A lot of Columbine fans wish they could have befriended Eric and Dylan IRL, and a lot of lolicons wish they could have sex with their underage waifu IRL.

It's for this reason that YES, what you consume, and especially fap to, does affect your brain. If fiction truly does exist in a vacuum, then propaganda wouldn't be an effective political tool. Propaganda often uses fiction. Lolicon antisemites are a joke because they fail to realize that pornography pushes themes like race-mixing, transgenderism, and pedophilia to be normalized and more common. And it's not "just Western pornography" because trannies exist as futas in hentai and lolicon is pedophilia. If they can call out liberal women for being brainwashed into accepting immigration, then I don't know why it's so hard for them to realize they themselves have also been brainwashed into inceldom by Internet ragebait. A lot of them genuinely do think women are all potentially secret OnlyFans whores.

 

[indigoisviolet]

Video games do not influence the wider audience to headbutt ceiling tiles in case there is a hidden coin there, but the nutjob is going to give it a go just in case, because they are insane first, and then the game reinforces their specific lunacy. It's similar to why bullshit like Sissy Hypno "works" for troons but nobody else: they're insane, and the media creates a feedback loop within their specific insanity.

Pedophiles are dangerously insane first, lolicon reinforces their lunacy.

Which brings us to the crux of this thing: can lolicon induce pedophilia in a non-insane person? Probably not, is my guess. And that's the weakness in a censorious approach based on consumer risk management, which is why lolicons want to keep the discussion there.

However! Lolicon can and often is used to groom real world kids, which is why it's illegal in jurisdictions that outlaw it. That's the pivot out of the pedophile zone of narrative control, I reckon. Like the trannies before them, Okay Groomer hits 'em where it hurts, because they know it's true.

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

Video games do not influence the wider audience to headbutt ceiling tiles in case there is a hidden coin there, but the nutjob is going to give it a go just in case, because they are insane first, and then the game reinforces their specific lunacy. It's similar to why bullshit like Sissy Hypno "works" for troons but nobody else: they're insane, and the media creates a feedback loop within their specific insanity.

Pedophiles are dangerously insane first, lolicon reinforces their lunacy.

Which brings us to the crux of this thing: can lolicon induce pedophilia in a non-insane person? Probably not, is my guess. And that's the weakness in a censorious approach based on consumer risk management, which is why lolicons want to keep the discussion there.

However! Lolicon can and often is used to groom real world kids, which is why it's illegal in jurisdictions that outlaw it. That's the pivot out of the pedophile zone of narrative control, I reckon. Like the trannies before them, Okay Groomer hits 'em where it hurts, because they know it's true.

It's a "chicken or the egg" thing. A lot of AGPs who have never had sex with men before, if they let their AGP develop to such a severe degree, will start having sex with men, not because they actually want a relationship with men, but because they feel like it makes them "more of a woman" and "feels degrading". It's psuedo-bisexuality or "prison gay". AGPs will also resort to dating other AGPs out of pure desperation. But most would leave their AGP partner if a Real Woman came along.

It's a well-studied phenomenon that porn addiction causes someone to spiral into more and more degenerate fetishes. What they may have found disgusting a year ago may no longer be disgusting to them once they've gone thru the pipeline. Because they're desensitizing themselves and lowering their disgust response. And it's also more likely for porn addicts to be bisexual, compared to the rest of the population. And because the category of "bisexual" is so broad, I think a lot of these porn addict bisexuals are psuedo-bisexuals. The female psuedo-bisexual equivalent is the girl who has threesomes with her boyfriend but would never date a girl. To her, the addition of an extra woman is just a voyeur fetish thing and she's not actually emotionally romantically attached to the extra woman.

Of course, to have a porn addiction in the first place, there is some mental illness the person probably has which makes them susceptible to it. But porn still plays a part in it. And anyone can become "mentally ill" after life trauma or as the result of not having healthy outlets. Or even being forced inside worldwide during a pandemic quarantine like in 2020. Trooning out skyrocketed during 2020.

 

[indigoisviolet]

Or even being forced inside worldwide during a pandemic quarantine like in 2020. Trooning out skyrocketed during 2020.

And I'll bet that lolicon hives proliferated too, which explains their confidence in their pedophilia now. Generative AI becoming more accessible at the same time added to their madness, of course.

YWNBAW fucked with troons because they knew it was true, and it cut through their bullshit. I wonder if there's a similar way to force lolicon pedophiles to notice themselves in the mirror? I appreciate it's different, despite the overlap between groups of crazy.

 

[Autistic Sea Lion]

You're also not fapping to violent videogames

I’ve always hated and rolled my eyes at the “if you’re against lolicon, you’re against violent video games too!” argument. It’s so stupid, they’re two completely different things, like comparing apples to oranges. If somebody was jacking it to violent video games, I would be pretty wary of them too and think they’re weird as fuck. That kinda reminds me of guro shit, where people goon it to gore and violence of anime girls, which is another disturbing and weird set of people…

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

Another thing I hate with these lolicon advocates, especially ones that target the Farms, is that they act like we are hypocrites because of things Null said online as a child almost two decades ago. Using a forum doesn't mean you support everything the forum's creator does. And even then, I think it's pretty fucking blatantly obvious that Null is anti-lolicon and anti-pedophile. Sure, he may have said fucked up edgy shit on the Internet back when Internet culture was different and back when he was a child himself. But he now runs a forum that exposes pedophiles and he regularly bans lolicons (most recently banning poweruser Meiwaku). There's people who theorize he even has a girlfriend/wife (who is an adult). And none of this is a secret to any Farms user because Null himself has a lolcow thread for himself on this website, which discusses all of this. For a group of "right-wing lolicons", you'd think they wouldn't resort to the SJW cancel culture tactic of digging up ancient Internet messages to paint someone in a bad light. If anything, it proves our point even further that lolicon is used to groom children (since Null was a child himself at the time of those messages).

 

[firestoopscience]

"Pragmata promotes family" in itself is a ridiculous statement. For starters, you ain't gonna make a family alone, you need to actually have sex with a 3D woman to do that and this is very clearly male-oriented game that won't convince any women to have children.

Noone is going to fucking start a family because of playing Pragmata lol

Edit: misquote

I feel it's not about them wanting a family rather many Otaku in general just wanna larp as a figure of authority with access to something to influence/exploit/mold their innocence to shape them as who these Otakus want them to be in some power play thing, especially with learning on how genuinely hard parenting can get in reality especially with the mother. Either that or they think that the innocence and purity of a little child can "fix" their screwed up life without even a modicrum of effort or responsibility to actually take care of one.

That's why many of them barely imagine a mother involved with the "family" fantasy, and if they do they'll just treat pregnancy as something the waifu has to do herself while they just "provide".

 

[Autistic Sea Lion]

Another thing I hate with these lolicon advocates, especially ones that target the Farms, is that they act like we are hypocrites because of things Null said online as a child almost two decades ago.

Children saying edgy shit just for the sake of being edgy is pretty common and not something unheard of, it’s kinda weird to hold that against someone, especially when you’re now fully grown and have developed and changed as a person.

 

[cat merchant]

Very retarded question but why the fuck are lolicons either brown/black, right-wing, or fat as fuck?

There are plenty of white lolicons, but black/brown communities have higher rates of pedophilic crime than white people. That's not even including the fact it goes unreported most of the time because they call the victims 'fast' and protect the creepy uncles, so it's even higher than that.

Being fat conservatives has to do with them neglecting their bodies to dedicate themselves to 2d "waifus" and is more so an anime fan thing.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Another thing I hate with these lolicon advocates, especially ones that target the Farms, is that they act like we are hypocrites because of things Null said online as a child almost two decades ago. Using a forum doesn't mean you support everything the forum's creator does. And even then, I think it's pretty fucking blatantly obvious that Null is anti-lolicon and anti-pedophile. Sure, he may have said fucked up edgy shit on the Internet back when Internet culture was different and back when he was a child himself. But he now runs a forum that exposes pedophiles and he regularly bans lolicons (most recently banning poweruser Meiwaku). There's people who theorize he even has a girlfriend/wife (who is an adult). And none of this is a secret to any Farms user because Null himself has a lolcow thread for himself on this website, which discusses all of this. For a group of "right-wing lolicons", you'd think they wouldn't resort to the SJW cancel culture tactic of digging up ancient Internet messages to paint someone in a bad light. If anything, it proves our point even further that lolicon is used to groom children (since Null was a child himself at the time of those messages).

Degenerates of any stripe are desperate to make the case that those who are morally opposed to their fetishes are secretly into those things themselves. That's why they're so gleeful whenever they find even the smallest bit of "evidence" that makes that case.

It's like arguing that I want to fuck wasps or wasp nests because of my intense hatred for them.

 

[Autistic Sea Lion]

There are plenty of white lolicons, but black/brown communities have higher rates of pedophilic crime than white people.

I believe they also have higher rates of incest and sexual abuse going on in their families as well. Teen pregnancy has the highest rates among Hispanic, non-Hispanic Black, and American Indian/Alaska Native teens, while the two lowest rates are in Whites and Asians.