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Relicts of when kiwifarms was left wing. A lot of those are oldfags as well.
It's just an open admission that the majority of people that believe the things they believe are entirely humorless spergs, and that they (TES spergs) are afraid of being around them on account of them potentially saying something that would get them other'd.
A reminder, these people politically align with the same people who if given the chance would dox them and destroy their entire lives for having a KF account. Even if they knew they were on the same side, and they are fully aware of that.

The majority of TES posters are nihilists who are either too entrenched in the anti-right wing derangement to be worth interacting with, or are just default shitlibs who are mentally stuck as 2010's redditors.
 
That thread is overwhelmingly anti-Trump, they're just gonna post that one picture of Trump and Epstein and say "of course he did they were best friends". I wanted to see what a more pro-Trump group would say about the whole situation. It seems like everyone on the internet, from 4chan, to Reddit, to random YouTube comments thinks he's a kid diddler (I know all those places are overwhelmingly filled with retards, but still, that's a big chunk of the internet) and I've never heard a comprehensive explanation of the situation from the Trump side.
I'll give you my take as someone who doesn't think Trump is a good person, but does view him as the lesser evil, doesn't think there's any merit to accusations of him diddling kids, and would call for his public execution if I genuinely thought he was guilty.

So, any explanation of any event needs to provide a rebuttal to seemingly contradictory facts. The "Trump is not a kid diddler" position needs to explain away two, namely the fact that at one point in the past, Trump was acquaintances and possibly even friends with Epstein, and the utterly botched handling of the release of the files.

In no particular order, and completely non-exhaustively, here's a sampling of things the "Trump is a kid diddler" position needs to explain away:
>Why Epstein didn't attempt to parley any sort of blackmail to get out of jail when he was imprisoned on Trump's orders by federal agents in 2019
>Why Trump was the only person in those circles to testify against Epstein in his first trial
>Why, if there's evidence of Trump diddling kids in the parts of the files Trump didn't release, didn't democrats ever once even CONSIDER leaking that evidence despite knowing Trump was running for re-election the entire 4 years Biden was in office
>Why Epstein constantly talked about in his emails how there was no one he hated in the entire world more than Trump
>Why Trump personally banned Epstein from all his properties long before opinions of him shifted
>Why there isn't a single scrap of evidence Trump even visited Epstein's island
>Why despite 12 of the last 16 years since the first Epstein case, there has been a democrat in the white house, and Trump being a thorn in saint Obongo's side most of his presidency, did they upend the entire media apparatus to censor Trump and resort to fanning the flames of multiple assassination attempts rather than even accuse Trump of being involved with Epstein

The first one can be pretty easily answered with "Trump was a rich New York real estate mogul, Epstein was a rich New York finance mogul, it's likely they ran in the same circles, and Trump did turn on Epstein before anyone else in those circles did" and "Through a combination of the files including every single anonymous tip ever filed, no matter how blatantly implausible, and the utter retards like Pam Bondi and Kashapp Patel running things, it was always doomed to be a shitshow." I don't think you can so cleanly explain away everything that would seem to contradict the other position.
 
In my area gas went from $3.80 for regular the past month to $3.30 today. The lowest I've seen it was $2.70 in January. Seems like with everything, Trump knows how to make you take the medicine to not be a long term issue. All the talk of Iran winning and people already moved on while they're cockblocked and broke, what we in the business call a classic MovieBlob.
 
This is correct but means nothing.

Let's say republicians destroyed democratic party. Then what? People are always going to have different opinions. A new aprty would be formed and nothing would change.
Not really. The Democrat Party and its name carries centuries worth of baggage. A new party wouldn't. All those connections would be gone. That's the difference.
 
It's just an open admission that the majority of people that believe the things they believe are entirely humorless spergs, and that they (TES spergs) are afraid of being around them on account of them potentially saying something that would get them other'd.
A reminder, these people politically align with the same people who if given the chance would dox them and destroy their entire lives for having a KF account. Even if they knew they were on the same side, and they are fully aware of that.

The majority of TES posters are nihilists who are either too entrenched in the anti-right wing derangement to be worth interacting with, or are just default shitlibs who are mentally stuck as 2010's redditors.
Speaking of the TES thread yesterday the > > RAPIST PEDOPHILES < < in there took exception that drumpf got mad at the insinuation that he was a rapist and pedophile from the manifesto on 60 minutes. I mean, even the kids in their basement know that such a strong reaction to these kinds of accusation only makes you look suspicious.
 
Tell me this whole dynamic pricing disaster isn't the direct result of H1B's introducing their barter-for-everything culture to squeeze every penny out of our pockets.

It isnt.

The value of time in the US is the reason we dont barter, and we used to do it more 100 years ago (according to my family anyway).

We barter over car prices and we barter over home prices because the time you spend doing that has value.

The reason grocery stores didnt do this is you would need to pay and empower the clerks to change the labels all the time and to figure out how to rip you off. Remember the people on the ground in these stores are viewed as a cost to the company not an asset. Hence the self check out bullshit.

Whats bringing this to bare, isnt Jeets and their haggle culture. its tech. The store runs itself a computer the C suits can control changes the price in real time you re not depending on store staff, and the computer can do this for the entire chain or more.

again our tech overlords truly want a world with no people, where the machine does everything.
 
Speaking of the TES thread yesterday the > > RAPIST PEDOPHILES < < in there took exception that drumpf got mad at the insinuation that he was a rapist and pedophile from the manifesto on 60 minutes. I mean, even the kids in their basement know that such a strong reaction to these kinds of accusation only makes you look suspicious.
Well when you're the kind of retard whose paying to watch 60 minutes, you're probably going to believe what they say.
 
People forget how much of pre-farms and early farms lolcow culture was just screeching that you hoped someone broke into 14 Branchland Court and killed everyone there because Chris made a joke about Obama painting the white house black, and maybe he heard it from Bob louder than the other guys who were screeching similar things.
That is still one of my favorite things Chris ever did, and by extension bob, by calling Obama a Nigger.
 
I don't think you're disproving the person you're quoting (who's arguing for homeschooling) by showing how hard the public school system has deteriorated.

The statistics over time (for everything from literacy to problem solving) are honestly quite horrific. Doesn't help that "demographic change" seems to be reversing the Flynn effect, of course.
When I was schooled in Australia I learned so much because it was SOTA or "School of the air". They basically gave you the books and your teacher would mail you the lessons every fortnight.
Then because this was the 90s and nobody had the internet where I lived, a bunch of other students and I would have about an hour of lessons with the teacher over a fucking HF radio a few times a week, and then at least twice a week you would get 10 to 20 minutes of one on one.
I remember learning so much because there was no distractions. There were no boongs pulling fucking antics, I couldn't fuck about with my friends instead of paying attention, and the lessons you got were actually interesting and informative to the point where you would go to the library of your own volition and learn more about the subjects.
Then I started high school in America, and learned absolutely fucking nothing for four years. :story: it was always girls or screwing around with my friends or there was always some niggers getting into fights or pulling shenanigans. This was the early 2000s when I was in high school, so there's no way that it improved.
It made me laugh because all of these kids during covid had to learn on zoom and I remember thinking fuck, at least you HAD zoom. I was listening to my teacher talk over a radio and mailing my assignments in like a prisoner getting their high school equivalency certificate. :lol:
 
In no particular order, and completely non-exhaustively, here's a sampling of things the "Trump is a kid diddler" position needs to explain away:
The anti-Trump crowd from my experience thus far has preferred generally to rely on loud displays of exasperation in response to questioning or doubt, citing consensus (Multiple of us confidently think so, therefore there's some truth in what we believe!), and telling you to ignore the context of the material they cite as damning evidence, demanding that you be persuaded by the mention of Trump in the files alone, but look no further.
 
I got furiously spammed with negative ratings for saying this in the Pragmata thread but it is genuinely unhealthy to obsess over pedophiles 24 hours a day. That shit is genuine brainrot and eventually binging too many pedophiles hunter/Epstein YouTube videos is going to cause you to Naruto run on your way to assassinate the president with your trannypistol.

It breaks your brain.
 
I've never heard a comprehensive explanation
I don’t have anything close to that, but I opened up the Epstein files, picked a Trump accusation at random, then when it was laughable horseshit I turned it into a chain letter and called it a day https://kiwifarms.st/threads/us-jus...w-pages-of-epstein-files.238105/post-23596445

I don’t know exactly why anyone calls him a pedo so I can’t rebut it, but one thing I do know is he’s in the flight logs multiple times for Epstein’s jet, but it’s always shit like flying from Florida to NY. He never went to Little Saint James, at least not on one of Epstein’s planes.
 
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