Astrology of the Cow - Official KF Astro Thread!

The Chinese New Year is 2 days away, and with it comes the Year of the Horse - Fire Horse, specifically. Although it technically hasn't arrived yet, there's a lot of crazy shit that already happened at the very beginning of the year. I do wonder what the implications are for the rest of it.
Fire horse with Uranus fully stationing in gemini. Big changes.
 
The Chinese New Year is 2 days away, and with it comes the Year of the Horse - Fire Horse, specifically. Although it technically hasn't arrived yet, there's a lot of crazy shit that already happened at the very beginning of the year. I do wonder what the implications are for the rest of it.
Someone recently said "Saturn has moved out of Pisces". What does this mean? What are the implications?\
Fire horse with Uranus fully stationing in gemini. Big changes.
This too.
 
Someone recently said "Saturn has moved out of Pisces". What does this mean? What are the implications?\

This too.
From Google AI:

Saturn officially exited Pisces and entered Aries on February 13, 2026, concluding a, roughly, three-year transit through the final sign of the zodiac that began in March 2023. This transition marks a shift from dreamy, emotional, and introspective energy into a proactive, fiery phase focused on individual agency, accountability, and direct action until April 2028.

Key Details Regarding Saturn's Shift:
  • The Move: After concluding its journey in Pisces, which brought themes of closing, healing, and spiritual structure, Saturn entered the first sign, Aries, starting a new chapter.
  • Aries Impact: With Saturn in Aries, the focus shifts toward taking personal responsibility, acting with authority, and handling challenges with assertiveness.
  • Timeline: Saturn will remain in Aries from Feb 13, 2026, until April 12, 2028.
  • Context: This transition is a major, and often challenging, shift, as Saturn represents discipline, structure, and karma, whereas Aries is known for being rash and impulsive.
  • Prior Transit: Saturn was in Pisces for most of 2023–2025, with a brief retrograde dip back into the sign in late 2025.
This change is considered a significant shift in personal and collective maturation, requiring a shift from processing emotions to initiating action.

The combination of the Year of the Fire Horse (beginning Feb 17, 2026) and Uranus fully stationing/transiting in Gemini (entering April 26, 2026) may signal a time of intense and rapid transformation. This period represents a high-energy "system reboot" that merges swift, unpredictable action with groundbreaking intellectual or technological shifts.

Key Themes (2026–2033)
  • Restless Energy & Acceleration: The Fire Horse is known for being forceful and potentially chaotic. Paired with Uranus in Gemini, this period may be marked by a need for speed and a "restless energy".
  • Information Age Overload: Uranus in Gemini may act as a "shock to the system" regarding communication, technology, and mental processing. Information may feel overwhelming.
  • Decisive Actions & Integration: The period may demand rapid shifts in personal and public life. It may emphasize the need to balance fast-paced movement with grounding to avoid burnout.
  • Technology & Social Shifts: Uranus in Gemini may shake up communication and social structures. The last times this occurred (1941–1949 and 1859-1866) were periods of change and innovation.
  • Personal Liberation: This transit may encourage breaking free from limiting thoughts.
 
The only astrology that has massive amounts of autism and a billion dollar industry is the Indian astrology, they have a "kundli" which is made by giving your date of birth, time of your birth, and the place of your birth. Then the whole map is divided into 12 houses which allows to see which god is in which house, the list of houses are seemed as-

1. Saturn- Law (the most brutal god, who will judge and reward u, but will not tolerate any form of fallbacks
2.Sun- Authority
3.Moon- Intuition
4. Mars- Courage
5. Mercury- Intelligence
6. Jupiter- wealth and success
7. Venus- Love
Now for the interesting part
Rahu and Ketu are demons, but not in an evil sense, these are tricksters who will reward you in plenty that you will drown in their gifts or turn you into a huskless person because both govern the illusions in your life like confusion, distractions, etc. So if they sit in any of the houses thats either bad news because you will have to show extra ordinary discipline.

So what does the Houses mean?
House 1- Personality
House 2- Wealth
House 3- Courage
House 4- Your living space
House 5- Intelligence
House 6-Enemies
House 7-Desires
House 8-Mystery and Possible pains
House 9- Spirituality
House 10-Profession and Work
House 11- Personal growth
House 12- Disease, Death and Financial or Personal Loss

An example
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An example me trying to read Chris Chan kundli

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This is christoper western chandler "kundli"
 
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Someone recently said "Saturn has moved out of Pisces"
Pisces is your Jupiter which is your wealth and success, that means Saturn the god of law and judgment has allowed your success to be independent of his jurisdiction and that can be a bad news because you had the opportunity to impress him by his extra ordinary hard work that Saturn is very very impressed by and in return he gives you extra ordinary growth but its a good news if you lack a bit in your moral discipline which means the success that once was closed off for you because of Saturn will now be in your reach.

Just keep moving Noreturn you got this
 
Pisces is your Jupiter which is your wealth and success, that means Saturn the god of law and judgment has allowed your success to be independent of his jurisdiction and that can be a bad news because you had the opportunity to impress him by his extra ordinary hard work that Saturn is very very impressed by and in return he gives you extra ordinary growth but its a good news if you lack a bit in your moral discipline which means the success that once was closed off for you because of Saturn will now be in your reach.

Just keep moving Noreturn you got this
My Jupiter? Or everyone's?
They weren't talking to me, it was a standalone post listing upcoming astrological events like what's in @Liber Nihil's post.

AI singularity in April/May?
 
My Jupiter? Or everyone's?
They weren't talking to me, it was a standalone post listing upcoming astrological events like what's in @Liber Nihil's post.

AI singularity in April/May?
see there is no such thing for "everyone", its hard to say and often grifters in these circles will announce such vague news like this to create widespread panic, you dont need to worry and just make sure where your own personal numbers lead you. Like your name numbers and birth number

like add your birth day and you will get a number like for example 24 feburary 1986- 2 + 4 = 6 comes under Venus, so check with that. Then your name number, Harry Dubois- 11= 1 + 1 =2 the name comes under Moon, I would recommend some deep dives allowing better intake because its needlessly complex and if a retard like me can somewhat understand then so can you.
 
On 4chan once I saw some guy say that apparently Andrew Tate's astrology chart said something like he'd have a slow rise and great fall or something like that, can anyone confirm?
 
On 4chan once I saw some guy say that apparently Andrew Tate's astrology chart said something like he'd have a slow rise and great fall or something like that, can anyone confirm?

They guessed birth time, but astrology-ladies confirm if this seems legit: https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/andrew-tate/
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Sun in Sagittarius​

When the Sun returns to Sagittarius, people with the Sun in this sign experience a clear reset point for the year. This period supports focus, recovery of energy, and reconnection with a more authentic sense of direction and identity. They often notice a rise in vitality, confidence, and readiness to pursue new opportunities in areas they genuinely enjoy, such as study, travel, personal projects, or growth‑oriented work.
This influence strengthens the Sagittarian drive to search for truth, expand horizons, and keep life meaningful and engaging. It is an effective time to take ownership of one’s story, communicate it openly, and make choices that align daily actions with long‑term values and goals. When they act in line with who they are, their self‑trust and natural visibility tend to increase.
At the same time, the same enthusiasm that fuels progress can lead to overextension, impatience, or behavior that ignores reasonable limits. The key risk in this phase is going too far, too fast, driven by optimism alone. Balancing freedom with focus -using extra energy for well‑chosen projects rather than scattering it - helps them turn this transit into tangible progress instead of burnout or unnecessary complications.

Moon in Sagittarius​

The truth-seeking flaming Sagittarius fires A collision is imminent when the Moon is in opposition to the vivacious and impulsive Sun of Sagittarius. They will live a full life and cultivate an infinite spirit as a result. This phenomenon is a result of their lack of self-control, which make a boundary-breaker. They are positive that everything around them is a strong force for good, and they are aware that there is more to the world than meets the eye. They are more independent than most people and have a stronger ability to handle emotional upheavals if they are born under this double-fire sign. Their ability to express and control their emotions may be both their strength and their weakness. When it comes to those they love, they will do whatever it takes to ensure their happiness and safety. They have strong emotions, which they wish could control. The issue is that there are numerous issues that need to be resolved along with all of this incredible wealth. When two Sagittarius signs are in a relationship, they may feel extremely protective and prone to secrecy. This insight stems from their tendency to suppress their emotions in order to shield weak inner self. Because they have trouble controlling their emotions, they may believe that they are too powerful for them to manage. It's possible that they're emotionally aloof to safeguard their resilient inner self. The globe may seem too big to manage, which is why this is occurring. A crucial first step in achieving inner peace is thinking about the possible consequences of their feelings.

Mercury in Scorpio​

And so when the free-roaming, buoyant Sagittarius sun links minds with Mercury in Scorpio’s deep and transformative waters, you’re a seeker of truth with an unexpectedly strong and keen eye. You are a force of nature on the outside, acting confidently and without reservation, while under the surface you function in an incredibly sensitive, emotional and even manipulative way.
And that's how it works, and I think it is a really lovely synergy. Your Sagittarius sun wants to move, learn a grow with abandon. But your Mercury in Scorpio draws you to a universe of emotional investigation, power and journeying into a more substantial sense of truth. It is thus that you don't merely experience the world, but allow yourself to express with greater intention and depth. I guess you can be high-energy for one minute and grounded in power the next.
And the true power of this combo is that you can bring your heart into unison with your mind! Your Scorpio mind bring an amazing sense of purpose and vision to your Sagittarius' philosophical mind. You are not just a bold adventurer; you are strong and transformative, harnessing the ability to use your words to help others and change lives. Scorpio’s deep desire becomes your patient resolve to do what’s right, and your life is imbued with a sense of destiny.

Venus in Scorpio​

While the free book-loving spirit of Sagittarius sun is in your feelings zone and now centered within Venus as it travels the deep, transformative world of Scorpio for you love becomes intense full emotional depth with loyalty. Your outer you is all about the truth, and freedom in everything, But your within world of relationships is full of a strong urgent desire to be entwined with a shared love.
This is a beautiful, fascinating tension. That Sagittarius sun of yours wants to be flying free, learning and growing with wild abandon. But your Venus in Scorpio tugs you toward a world of intense emotional connections, fierce loyalty and the eternal search for deep passion. This gives you not just the power to experience the world, but also an opportunity to express your love on a powerful scale: one that is fiercely protective and all-consuming.
The strength of this combination is you can love tenderly as well as strongly. Your Scorpio heart and your Sagittarius’s boundless enthusiasm find a deep sense of purpose in each other, and an intimate, loyal foundation. You are magnetized to relationships that feel soul-deep and transformative, based on shared emotional intensity and a fierce loyalty. Your love flourishes in an environment of reciprocity and abiding trust.

Mars in Pisces​

As the free-spirited Sagittarius sun meets up with go-getter Mars in the dreamy, intuitive sign of Pisces, your actions turn into an interesting combination of endless adventuring and spiritual empathy. Who you are on the outside is that of one who believes in truth and freedom, yet what motivates you inwardly is a desire to express yourself creatively and connect with others on a spiritual level. That dynamic provides a beautiful and compelling pull. Your Sagittarius sun yearns to ramble about, learn and expand with reckless abandon. But with your Mars in Pisces, you’re drawn to a world of compassionate action, creative expression and searching for personal freedom. It gives you the opportunity to feel not just the emotional depths of human connection, but also share an energy that is so fiercely reliable, protective and devoted. The real strength of this combination is you can love as a practical presence and be an adventurous soul. Your Pisces passion lends a deep sense of purpose to your Sagittarius’s infinite good cheer and humanitarianism. You’re attracted to partnerships that are spacious and optimistic, with shared spiritual values and a fierce commitment. You're at your best when surrounded by mutual respect and abundant curiosity.

Jupiter in Pisces​

When the adventurous, open-minded Sagittarius sun meets its lucky expansiveness match in Jupiter through Pisces, the ethereal, empathetic realm of your star chart, your moves are an epic combo of limitless exploration and resolute enlightenment. Your External Personality desires Truth and Freedom in all things, but your internal motivations, be they fantasy or a desire for empathy, are strongly motivated towards the broad spiritual range of expansion.
It is powerful and compelling to draw on that, where it becomes a beautiful tension. Your Sagittarius sun craves the freedom to move and learn and grow with wild, fearless abandon. But your Jupiter in Pisces tugs you toward a world of deep passion, transformative goals and an endless desire to know the deepest truth about whatever. This enables you not only to sense the depths of emotional human connection, but also to channel your energetic output with excessive reliability, defenseiveness and dedication.
The magic of this combination is that you truly know how to trust your intuition and get things done with a soft determination. Your Pisces drive infuses your Sagittarius’s boundless enthusiasm with a deep sense of mission and a grounded base. You’re attracted to relationships that feel expansive and hopeful, based on shared spiritual beliefs and a fierce commitment. Your energy does so well in that atmosphere of mutual respect and continuing discovery.

Saturn in Sagittarius​

With your Sagittarius sun and Saturn in Sagittarius, you are like a world explorer who has to also become a master cartographer. Your guts are those of someone who seeks truth and freedom, exploring and dispensing your knowledge to the world with boundless optimism. Yet life demands you learn a massive lesson – abetted by Saturn – and transform profoundly in your relationships, born of the urge to grow intimately and objectively investigate. The ability to drive it all home is a magical, double-Sagittarius imprint. You were born with a lust for truth that is fundamentally unbreakable; you aren’t capable of just feeling these things. You are here to establish a system of rightness and fairness that lasts millennia. Harness your boundless social acuteness and intellectual clarity to form relationships and social partnerships rooted in respect and honest dealing. But to what end? The titanic intensity of this double emphasis on partnership is equally complemented by a mercurial struggle: the need to act decisively without seeking consensus. You must allow yourself to develop doubts and be constantly assuaged by those who agree with you. You would find serenity when you learn to trust your own integrity. Your life goal is to turn your boundless social and creative energy into a project or endeavor that stands the test of time. Career and community prizes await you when you lead with wisdom and maturity.

Uranus in Sagittarius​

A person with that Sagittarius sun and a Uranus in Sagittarius is the wandering philosopher who must rise to be a visionary theorist. The deepest yearnings of your heart are for truth and freedom, to explore the world and offer your wisdom gently. But the great lesson of your life, brought to you by Uranus, is to construct balance, order and a lasting change in your relationships. There is great power resident in that blend, a positive dynamic between your longing for eternal union and the equally profound need to investigate dispassionately.
This twin-Sagittarius position turns you into a born change-agent, convinced right will eventually overcome wrong. You are here not only to feel things; you are also here to erect a system of equity and fairness that lasts. Your job is to deploy your extraordinary social grace and cerebral transparency to create relationships and communities based on mutual respect and honest dealing.
But this extreme focus on partnership entails a major challenge: how to make decisive decisions without waiting for consensus. You might be insecure and need constant reassurance, although you may become unnecessarily indecisive when your artistry is criticized. Your own path to inner peace is believing that your work is good enough and you don’t have to be validated externally in order for it to feel like you matter.
The task in your life is to direct a powerful need for unity into some kind of social or creative undertaking that has lasting value. When you understand and lead with principles of truth, integrity, and emotional maturity — your genius is not only going to show up in color, it will become a beacon that others can use to find their own greatness.

Neptune in Capricorn​

You have a Solar Sagittarius nature and are determined to succeed in competition. Sagittarius is an adventurous and philosophical with a desire to expand their horizons through education, travel, or personal growth. This is expansive coming into grounding, discipline and practical in Capricorn. Neptune in Capricorn wants us to transform vision into a practical goals, ambition meets strategy.
This is the ideal blend of adventurousness and focus, just like by your crush. Sagittarius desires freedom and excitement while Neptune in Capricorn encourages them to funnel that enthusiasm into real accomplishments and effective long-term projects. They may be inclined to leadership, education or travel and activities that are visionary as well as material.
At a deeper level, Sagittarius Sun conjunct Neptune in Capricorn could find themselves operating through the tension between ideals and form, figuring out translations from the big ideas and dreams to daily work. They get to stretch, and translate good ideas into action Insights into impact.. When the two are in harmony, such a mix creates an adventurous yet disciplined personality – one who can explore meaning and growth while making continual ground with her work.

Pluto in Scorpio​

Pluto in Scorpio sits in your 12th house, Sagittarius — the house of the subconscious mind, spirituality, behind-the-scenes patterns, and endings. It’s a very deep inward placement, and one which transforms beneath the surface in ways that are deeply too you.
You might feel the pull towards solitude, restorative action or spiritual practice which brings you face to face with what has been buried. Old fears, secrets or karmic cycles may emerge asking to be released. This shift can sometimes feel heavy, but it’s a reining in: It removes whatever doesn’t serve your growing anymore.
Dreams, gut instincts and coincidences emerge as potent signposts. You could discover latent strengths in the healing or psychology or spiritual-readings department. Pluto here often inspires you to make contact with the invisible and learn to trust your intuition.
As a Sagittarius, you’ve been born an optimist and into something bigger than yourself, and all that forward-guiding energy sizzles with possibility — this is what causes your adventurous spirit to take the dare.
At the end of this cycle you will have shaken off layers of illusion and fear and emerged with an even deeper spiritual strength. You would hold a quiet resilience and an attachment to truth that no outside challenge could shake.


Andrew Tate Astrological Portrait​

Every struggle, every challenge, and every triumph of the world’s most prominent personalities is written in the sky, and now you can decode the celestial forces behind Andrew Tate’s charm and career success. The natal chart reading below describes their innate strengths, weaknesses, vulnerabilities, daily routine, and pivotal life moments – revealing what exactly makes them the icon we admire

Read on to discover how the planetary forces align to determine Andrew Tate’s creative genius, career ambitions, remarkable achievements, wisdom, and wit.

Info about astrology birth chart for celebrity​

Andrew Tate’s birth chart reveals the astrological patterns behind their public persona, creative expression, and career trajectory – offering a blueprint for how planetary placements shape distinctive behavioral strengths and professional strategies.

Andrew Tate’s Core Signature​

Andrew Tate’s Sun position anchors their core identity and creative drive, while the Moon reveals emotional processing and private motivations. Their Rising sign defines first impressions and public approach – together forming the “big three” that filter all other planetary energies.

Mercury sharpens Andrew Tate’s communication style and analytical edge, Venus patterns their relational and aesthetic preferences, and Mars drives their action rhythms and competitive instincts. This celestial configuration explains Andrew Tate’s ability to connect authentically while maintaining professional boundaries.

Professional Patterns​

Andrew Tate’s chart shows a work ethic blending flexibility with disciplined execution, turning innovative ideas into tangible impact. Key aspects suggest natural skill in communication across diverse audiences, balancing analytical precision with visionary thinking.

The 10th house (career) and Saturn placement highlight sustained achievement through systems-building and strategic patience, while Jupiter expands opportunities in creative or public-facing fields.

Relationship Dynamics​

Venus and Mars in Andrew Tate’s chart reveal relational preferences – favoring depth with intellectual freedom, blending loyalty and independence. This creates magnetic appeal that draws collaborators and audiences alike.

Moon aspects suggest emotional resilience under scrutiny, allowing Andrew Tate to maintain authenticity in both personal partnerships and public roles.

Life Path Themes​

Andrew Tate’s full natal chart reflects someone wired for impact through authenticity – using personal experience to influence culture, challenge norms, or build communities. North Node and outer planet aspects point to growth through public contribution and collective innovation.

Explore how your own birth chart compares to Andrew Tate’s patterns. Generate your personalized birth chart to decode similar planetary signatures in your behavioral tendencies, career potential, and relational style.

For all of you who do not know who Andrew Tate is (which will be a very small percentage of those reading this) some would argue he’s the most famous person on the Internet right now; mainly for his controversial views and recently, for his ban from Youtube and Instagram. Before his internet fame he was a 4 time kickboxing world champion. In this time he and his brother, Tristan separately appeared on a few British reality TV shows (Big Brother, Survivor, Ultimate Traveller). Following his kickboxing career, he and Tristan, went on to start a webcam business. Shortly after, Andrew started posting advice videos for men on YouTube which quickly gained traction for his bold personality and takes. There’s been a heap of controversies, which leads us to today.
To kick this off lets start with his Mars (12°) conjunct Jupiter (15°) in Pisces
‘There’s nothing more spiritual than violence’ - yes this was the quote that made me do this analysis, and yes he did actually say this.
But otherwise, Mars represents anger, and Jupiter represents knowledge and expansion. Looking at his chart, It makes a lot of sense to me that he’s always been interested in fighting, and as he claims, that a lot of his life lessons were learned through fighting. When these 2 conjunct, it can make someone very ambitious for their goals, also indicates strong beliefs that can make one come off abrasive. And seeing that His Jupiter and Mars trines Pluto, it’s no wonder that he gained as much attention (good and bad) as he did.
Sun, Uranus, Saturn & Mercury in Sag: Now there’s no time of birth online, but I would assume he’s either an Aries or Pisces rising, making his 9th house in Sagittarius. The reason I think this is because he’s said many times that his father was the most influential person in his life, and that he really looked up to him. If this stellium was in his 9th or 10th house, there’s also a chance these planets would be conjunct his MC, which would make a lot of sense. He also says he’s moved around a lot in his life
Sun at 22 degrees: The infamous ‘to kill or to be killed’ degree. I came across an article which stated ‘The 22nd degree can indicate that a native’s loved one passed/passes away. And the native carries the grief for such a long time.’ https://astroniki.com/the-18th-and-22nd-degrees/
This following is just an observation and I’m not saying that astrology can predict death; (personally I don’t believe it can).
Seeing that Tate has this degree on his sun (sun=father) is interesting to say the least. His sun makes an exact conjunction to Uranus which is also at 22 degrees. Out of curiosity I looked up how his father died, and it came up that he ‘died after collapsing suddenly during a tournament’ (his father was a chess grandmaster for those of you who don’t know.) Uranus = sudden events, change.
If you have this, please don’t worry, there are so many people who have this degree on inner placements and are fine. 99% of the time this manifests figuratively.
Venus (11°) in Scorpio conjunct Pluto (8°): Both these planets trine Mars and Jupiter, which I think whether you love or hate him, there is something about Andrew Tate that made him very magnetic to the world. He also attests he made a lot of his wealth though his webcam business, where he had multiple women work for him (Venus=wealth, pluto=taboo topics such as s3x work). Also the amount of controversy he’s had on the internet, especially around women (being labelled a misogynist etc.) ironically boosting his brand (Jupiter trine Pluto= controversy and expansion). I also saw a clip one time where a girl tattooed his name on her butt if that adds anything.
Lilith (26°) Chiron (18°) in Gemini: Honestly for how well spoken he is, it was quite surprising to see both Lilith and Chiron in Gemini. I’ve seen many times with these placements, people having a fear of saying what they mean. Very rarely (especially with Chiron involved) have I seen the other extreme (Being very confident and/or calculated with their words). Lilith in Gemini can give someone a very provocative way with words whether they mean it or not, which can make people have very strong reactions to what they say.
Mercury Conjunct Saturn: I also mentioned this in my previous post, it can indicate someone who has difficulty speaking (especially early on) but in Andrew’s case, the way he talks is very articulated and assured.
North node (18°) Aries: The struggle with this placement (especially in one’s younger years) can be the division of doing what they want (Aries axis) vs what other people want (Libra axis). Tate also has Chiron sextile his North node, which indicates being able to heal your trauma and using your life and knowledge as a path to guide others. It’s a good placement for attracting people who look up to you in a way.
Take from this what you will; let me know what your interpretations of these placements are and if you have any
Till next time,
Mona.
 
O great oracles, may I ask your opinion on Braden Eric Peters, DOB: 12/17/2005, aka Clavicular? What is in his future?
 
O great oracles, may I ask your opinion on Braden Eric Peters, DOB: 12/17/2005, aka Clavicular? What is in his future?
Strangely, while Tate has results on normal pages and tumblr, Clav - being a zoomer - has a lot of video results.
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The time was a guess: https://astro-charts.com/tools/birt...&day=17&year=2005&hour=12&min=00&timeRadio=am


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the answer: maybe #clavicular #astrology #astrologytiktok #bigsix


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who should i analyze next? #astrology #saggitarius #birthchart #clavicular #greenscreen


 
What are the best books/resources for learning astrology? Primarily interested in learning more about Eastern Vedic astrology, since as another poster said earlier, Indians are the ones investing a lot of money into it. But I don't mind resources on Western Tropical as well.
 
What are the best books/resources for learning astrology? Primarily interested in learning more about Eastern Vedic astrology, since as another poster said earlier, Indians are the ones investing a lot of money into it. But I don't mind resources on Western Tropical as well.
I feel like Eastern Vedic is useful to learn because even if you personally think it's bullshit, there are still almost 1.5 BILLION PEOPLE (holy shit) worldwide planning their lives around it, and that effect alone is going to have an impact on your life.
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Like, if you're surrounded by a herd of cows, you want to know the direction they're moving, even if you aren't a cow yourself.
 
"this aspect is seen in both the burs charse of ostrich doctor Joseph Maygul and Hitler himself" :story: Okay. I miss when we had Kiwis analyzing cows in-house. @Aiōn are you out there? Does Clav's chart mog everyone?
 
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