Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

How the hell did that movie have a $528 million budget? There’s no way it looked like a $528 million movie.
That's production AND marketing budgets combined. The official production budget is ~$350million. Avengers: Doomsday is going to have a production budget north of $400million when all said and done and will have to make $1.5billion just to break even. With Disney's slate of movies over the next few years it's looking very dire for them. Mando&Grogu is going to fail, hard. Star Wars: Starfighter is going to fail as well so that'll mean it'd have been a decade since Lucasfilm has made a profit on anything. If Doomsday gets less than a billion Secret Wars will probably earn even less so Marvel is looking at years since they brought in money. Pixar/Disney animation can sometimes put out a movie that makes a profit but that gets wiped out by the rest of the Disney owned studios shitting the bed. The only part of Disney still consistently making money is the cruise line division. Over the next decade we could see Disney selling off studios and IP just to stay afloat and pay off the massive loans they took out in order to buy Fox Studios, many of which will still not be paid off until 2040s and some into the 2050s.
 
Rise of Palpatine did not make bank. The production and marketing budgets combined was $528 million and it had $1.077 billion in box office revenue. "It made twice its budget back! That's mad profit, bro!" Says the idiot. Slight problem with that, Disney gets 53% of the total box office revenue. That means Disney made $571 million in revenue. That means Disney made a grand total of $43 million in profit. Spending over half a billion to make not even $50 million in profit is not sustainable.
Kind of explains why Sequel Trilogy merchandise got buried like it was a snitch who ratted out the mob. You look at stores now, it's usually Mandoverse merch or classic SW merch on the Star Wars toy section, as opposed to the Prequel era when Prequel toys were everywhere and were moving units consistently.

Nowadays, it's Mandos, Stormtroopers, and Vader figures that consistently get sold in stores. But back then, even bit characters from the PT sold well.
 
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That's production AND marketing budgets combined. The official production budget is ~$350million. Avengers: Doomsday is going to have a production budget north of $400million when all said and done and will have to make $1.5billion just to break even. With Disney's slate of movies over the next few years it's looking very dire for them. Mando&Grogu is going to fail, hard. Star Wars: Starfighter is going to fail as well so that'll mean it'd have been a decade since Lucasfilm has made a profit on anything. If Doomsday gets less than a billion Secret Wars will probably earn even less so Marvel is looking at years since they brought in money. Pixar/Disney animation can sometimes put out a movie that makes a profit but that gets wiped out by the rest of the Disney owned studios shitting the bed. The only part of Disney still consistently making money is the cruise line division. Over the next decade we could see Disney selling off studios and IP just to stay afloat and pay off the massive loans they took out in order to buy Fox Studios, many of which will still not be paid off until 2040s and some into the 2050s.
I bet Doomsday is going to have a crazy budget of $600-700 million.

I wonder if they will sell the entire company. We all know the wishful thinking of Apple buying Disney.
 
I wonder if they will sell the entire company.
Disney being too big to fail really means its too big to sell as one whole company. The only financial firms that could loan the money to a potential buyer (Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street) already own controlling shares of the company so they'd be retarded. They'll sell off IPs and studios as they need to raise capital and try to stay afloat. They already sold the rights to the Queen discography for $1billion not that long ago so the process is starting.
 
Disney being too big to fail really means its too big to sell as one whole company. The only financial firms that could loan the money to a potential buyer (Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street) already own controlling shares of the company so they'd be retarded. They'll sell off IPs and studios as they need to raise capital and try to stay afloat. They already sold the rights to the Queen discography for $1billion not that long ago so the process is starting.
The last time they sold any of their assets was Miramax to some investment firm in 2010 and Paramount now owns the Miramax catalog. Miramax became irrelevant to Iger after the Weinsteins left in 2005.

They also sold Power Rangers back to Haim Saban in 2010 after he got back into the entertainment business. Disney never liked Power Rangers and tried cancelling it several times before they finally cancelled it after RPM. They were just going to do reruns but when Saban came back, Disney decided to give it back to him for cheap’x
 
In one of the few cases that you can genuinely blame RLM for something, Ruin actually did admit that they scared him. So what likely happened was he juked and moved around stuff to make it less of a copy of The Empire Strikes Back. I personally think most of this idea is just fucking cope, but I can buy the film being rewritten. Disney's been incompetent in that regard just for a long time.

Ruin is high off his own farts and after Looper went all-in on sucking Critic Dick.

Tracking a script is nigh impossible to draw conclusions from because sometimes a script writer will bring to the writer's meeting the biggest, runniest, post-3am-tacobell-run turd possible on purpose just to shake things up and try to generate new ideas. Script writers often don't even remember what they were thinking by the time an edit is done. So I beleive at some point there was a not wholly shit TLJ where Rey joins Kylo to lead the first order, Luke has a change of heart with Yoda's force goes and leaves exile to go "save rey", but I dunno how long any of those plot points stuck around.
Like I think Ruin made a totally boss opulent throne room for Canto, then when that subplot dropped, liked the aethetics and convinced himself it wouldn't be out of place on a star destroyer.

My head cannon is Ruin was given complete creative control by KKK provided he cram it with as much Girlbossing as possible, which he didn't have a problem with.
I think given that TFA was just a retread of ANH, Ruin intended to make his film start as a retread of WSB, but then SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS by Luke refusing to train Rey & in general being a bitter old cuck, and inserting his Clever Political commentary that the Clone Wars and the Galactic Civil War and this new conflict were all rooted in the MIC profiteering (muh afghanistan!) - which honestly I'm going to give him is a better explanation for how the First Order magically showed up with a massive fleet and the Deathstar For Modern Audiences than the... literal nothing JJ gave us.

I think Ruin was out to unmask JJ as a talentless hack, and I think Star Wars was just an unfortunate casualty in that crusade."You mystery box making nepobaby. This is how you cleverly take a nod from a movie and then put your touches on it" I would need very solid, good evidence to move from this position given the number JJ's mystery boxes Ruin joyously and purposefully smashed on screen to show empty they were.

Rey's parents nobodies. Phasma just getting the shaft treatment. Luke's ESB lightsaber utterly inconsequential.

Anyway, to bridge this into another line of thought brought up recently, you can see there is no grand vision for the ST other than Rey = #1 Best Of All Time and "break all dies to lucas including making the MF's radar square for no reason" and "sell as many tickets as possible while also virtue signalling how woke we are". The PT had flaws in execution but there was a grand stategy, a over arcing narrative, and when you aren't buttmad because you've been told to expect the greatest movie ever for 2 years, you can see it.
The ST was none of that, just a soulless attempt to bilk an audience of abused wives. Who are still lining up to watch the latest shit cartroon despite knowing it will be bad.

The only part of Disney still consistently making money is the cruise line division.
Point of order, Themeparks (which includes Cruiselines iirc) is still making money even after eating the retardation of the Star Wars theme hotel. But the YoY gains aren't going like disney wants and defered park maintenance is going to hurt them bad over the next few years.

The issue with the Parks division is Disney has basically maxed out foot traffic. They cannot bring in new visitors to keep pace with revenue increase demands by investors, so the only way they have to increase revenue is to expand parks (expensive and risky) or by extracting more cash from each visitor.
This what Galaxy Rimjob was supposed to explore. They wre looking to gauge viability and consumer appetite for even more expensive "bespoke" park experiences, by targeting a consumer base of proven zero standards pay piggies
 
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Point of order, Themeparks (which includes Cruiselines iirc) is still making money even after eating the retardation of the Star Wars theme hotel. But the YoY gains aren't going like disney wants and defered park maintenance is going to hurt them bad over the next few years.

The issue with the Parks division is Disney has basically maxed out foot traffic. They cannot bring in new visitors to keep pace with revenue increase demands by investors, so the only way they have to increase revenue is to expand parks (expensive and risky) or by extracting more cash from each visitor.
This what Galaxy Rimjob was supposed to explore. They wre looking to gauge viability and consumer appetite for even more expensive "bespoke" park experiences, by targeting a consumer base of proven zero standards pay piggies
Even Disney couldn’t get to pull off a decent SW theme park.

Imagined if George actually made a SW theme park or collaborated with Universal if he had kept Lucasfilm.

These fan arts looks much more interesting than any of Galaxy Rimjob.

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Even Disney couldn’t get to pull off a decent SW theme park.
I've been to Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland, might end up going to the World one as well if I have time while in Florida for business, but I thought it was fine, but it was really harmed by the dearth of actual rides and attractions, even if the set dressing was really good. But that is true for all Disney Parks. They also chose the most utterly dull place to set it, they should have varied it up or chosen something more aesthetically appealing, like Naboo or Coruscant. I remember as a child going to Disneyworld a lot, the tiny corner with Star Tours captured more in a smaller area!
 
I've been to Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland, might end up going to the World one as well if I have time while in Florida for business, but I thought it was fine, but it was really harmed by the dearth of actual rides and attractions, even if the set dressing was really good. But that is true for all Disney Parks. They also chose the most utterly dull place to set it, they should have varied it up or chosen something more aesthetically appealing, like Naboo or Coruscant. I remember as a child going to Disneyworld a lot, the tiny corner with Star Tours captured more in a smaller area!
Did you see that ugly redhead chick /tv/ was obsessed with? I always wondered if she knew dozens of autists on 4chan were thirsting for her.
 
Did you see that ugly redhead chick /tv/ was obsessed with? I always wondered if she knew dozens of autists on 4chan were thirsting for her.
I have never used /tv/ in my life so I wouldn't know who you were talking about. I really only ever used /tg/ on 4chan as an adult. Maybe my brother would know since I knew he lurked on that board, but he didn't mention it since he was with me at the time, so dunno.
 
Rey's parents nobodies.
That really wasn't a subversion at all.

Most Jedi are fucking nobodies. Orphans and unwanted kids with a high enough midichlorian count that the galaxy didn't miss when the Order "rescued" or "adopted" them. The Skywalkers were the outlier in that it's a Jedi dynasty with multiple generations. The original generation was Anakin, then you had his kids and grandkids. But most Jedi were nobodies and left no one to succeed them.

Phasma just getting the shaft treatment.
That's the same thing that happened to Boba, with extra steps. At least she didn't get decapitated like Jango. Again, not a subversion.

Luke's ESB lightsaber utterly inconsequential.
It would've been funny if Luke tossed it away because he found out it was used to kill children.
 
"break all dies to lucas including making the MF's radar square for no reason"
I can live with that. The circle dish was knocked off when Lando was escaping DS2's fireball and Han would need a replacement and would grab what he could. And it would show that the universe wasn't static during the 35 years since the end of Jedi to the start of TFA. Stuff happened, there were adventures, repairs were needed which is why we ended up with 3PO with a red arm and some of the Falcon's armor plates were different colors than in Jedi. And it shouldn't even need to be referenced by the characters because they know what happened and unless it was important to the story, they should go unmentioned. It would be like if you put new hubcaps on your car last year and picked up an old friend you last saw in college; he isn't going to say "sweet new hubcaps!" unless the conversation turned that way.

That said 3PO telling Han "hey, did you notice my red arm?" or whatever he said was just terrible writing, but then again so was having R2 literally collecting dust under a dirty tarp in a corner for three decades.
 
That said 3PO telling Han "hey, did you notice my red arm?" or whatever he said was just terrible writing, but then again so was having R2 literally collecting dust under a dirty tarp in a corner for three decades.
Hey, if JJ can turn Captain Kirk from a charismatic character to a douchebag with daddy issues, then it’s not stopping him from having R2 collect dust for decades after Luke cowardly fled from his friends.
 
R2 literally collecting dust under a dirty tarp in a corner for three decades.

Yes, while the new people want their characters to replace the old. The R2 plot was kind of glossed over in large part to round head going another way with what Luke was up to on the island.

Luke split the map between Lor San Tekka and R2. R2 was kept in Resistance command for the day when the other map piece was returned. If not for Kylo interrupting Poe collecting the map. They would have fetched Luke and presumably stopped the rest of the events of the film.

That seems to have been the intention in TFA. It doesn't work when Luke has just fucked off and given up. So in retrospect, one day for no reason at all Lor San Tekka decides to hand over the map fragment the day before The First Order decides to full reveal themselves an attack the Republic.
 
I have found the ultimate version of the prequels. The fathoming of its greatness will be unfathomable.
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That's enough internet for the rest of my life. It's like if the guys behind Auralnauts had been hit in the head by guys with tack hammers until they lost all talent, ability, and any memory of their dads. I would literally rather die a thousand painful and long deaths than ever watch that video ever again. I hate you for bringing it into my life and even letting me know it existed. There is nothing good about you or your entire bloodline and I will hate for for a thousand lifetimes and a day and it won't be enough hatred for me.
Your hate is like a burrito and I'll eat that burrito and turn it into a love dump. *pan flute music plays*
 
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