Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

Unarmed Gunman said:
Nigro you have no idea how much is spent on defense. You think you do because you look at the pie charts that your masters stick in front of your suspiciously long nose, but ask yourself a simple question - why can't the Pentagon pass an audit? We know how much they spend right? Should be easy for them to pass an audit, and yet...

And that ignores the knock-on effects from our wars. Prices increasing across the board costs consumers money and decreases our discretionary spending power. It won't show up as "defense related", despite it being a major cause.
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This doesn't even make sense.
You just like googled a bunch of economic words and threw them in a paragraph together with no understanding of what they mean.

Post hands.
Unarmed Gunman said:

Pentagon can't account for 63% of nearly $4 trillion in assets​


lol
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You didn't even read your own source.

Also, failing an audit is not a debunk to publicly available fund allocation.

If I loan my friend $100 dollars, and a month passes, and I ask him "hey what did you do with that $100?" and they shrug and say "I don't know?" - that doesn't mean I don't know how much money I gave him (it would still be $100), it means I don't know what he spent it on.

Even assuming the situation is as bad as you imply (which your own article clarifies is more of an "incomplete" than a "fail") - we know what the US government GAVE to the Pentagon, what the issue is what they SPENT it on.
The total allocation remains the same.
 
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I really doubt it will last until May 15.
 
Ghostse said:
correct, not hauling Iranian cargo or doing any business with iran. I edited my post to be a bit more clear.

Mainly just having a dig at MultiPolarings BRIC Suckers who keep coping about the ships supposedly making it through the USN blockade while ignoring ships that are able to leave the Persian Gulf Gulf of Trump through the straight of homoz
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Are they paying the Iranian protection money though?
 
Morridowfag said:
Realpolitik. Remember back when the Soviets were invading Afghanistan and the US were funding the Taliban and American media painted Osama as an heroic freedom fighter?
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America was funding the Afghan Mujahideen not the Pakistani Taliban during the whole Soviet invasion. The Taliban didn't cross over into Afghanistan until after the Soviets had completely left the country. After which Afghanistan was in war between the Mujahideen and the Taliban all the way to September 11th 2001.
 
Unredacted TND said:
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I really doubt it will last until May 15.
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I have to agree, the US is going for economic unrest in Iran as the kindling for a revolution. My friend in a country that borders Iran says its getting ugly with people leaving trying to escape the hyperinflation. The Strait is Irans biggest lifeline for trade and with a defacto no-fly zone already in place, theres no way ground trade via Turkey, Azerbaijan and Armenia can replace sea trade. Currently commercial truck trade is down due to security concerns, so Iran is mainly trying to keep their economy going by rail which hits a cap. Part of the reason why Iran wants to move the capital or at least start another city in Chabahar is because of this very concern, if you cut off the Strait, Iran withers.

The war has thrown around one million people out of work directly and another million indirectly, according to early estimates cited by Gholamhossein Mohammadi, an official at Iran’s Labor and Social-Affairs ministry. That is a significant portion of the roughly 25 million people who are normally employed in Iran.

The cost of living has soared, with the annual inflation rate reaching 67% in the month through mid-April from the same period a year earlier, according to Iran’s central bank. The subsidized price of red meat, which was mostly imported through sea routes, has gone up to the equivalent of around $3.60 a pound, beyond the reach of most in a country where the minimum wage is around $130 a month.
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Businesses across the country—from manufacturers to retailers—are closing, residents said. The lack of steel and other raw materials is hampering production in various industries. Electronic goods, which are mostly imported, are in short supply and expensive.
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https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-ea...economy-descends-into-a-death-spiral-47dba669 | https://archive.is/HdeFT

I keep saying this, but if the US and Israel want to hasten a revolution, they need to take out the Internet jammers and restore connection.
 
Fanatical Pragmatist said:
This doesn't even make sense.
You just like googled a bunch of economic words and threw them in a paragraph together with no understanding of what they mean.
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You can support whatever pointless wars you want but this whole tactical retardation where you pretend your reading comprehension is too piss poor to understand an obvious point is embarrassing. Agree or disagree but if you can't understand the point he was making I'm going to have to assume you are ESL
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
America was funding the Afghan Mujahideen not the Pakistani Taliban during the whole Soviet invasion. The Taliban didn't cross over into Afghanistan until after the Soviets had completely left the country. After which Afghanistan was in war between the Mujahideen and the Taliban all the way to September 11th 2001.
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My bad. I have a really bad habit of treating Mujahadeen and Taliban as synonyms.
 
Bummer said:

You can support whatever pointless wars you want but this whole tactical retardation where you pretend your reading comprehension is too piss poor to understand an obvious point is embarrassing. Agree or disagree but if you can't understand the point he was making I'm going to have to assume you are ESL
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Seems you might be ESL. Please reattempt to read and understand
Fanatical Pragmatist said:
If I loan my friend $100 dollars, and a month passes, and I ask him "hey what did you do with that $100?" and they shrug and say "I don't know?" - that doesn't mean I don't know how much money I gave him (it would still be $100), it means I don't know what he spent it on.

Even assuming the situation is as bad as you imply (which your own article clarifies is more of an "incomplete" than a "fail") - we know what the US government GAVE to the Pentagon, what the issue is what they SPENT it on.
The total allocation remains the same.
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Bummer said:

You can support whatever pointless wars you want but this whole tactical retardation where you pretend your reading comprehension is too piss poor to understand an obvious point is embarrassing. Agree or disagree but if you can't understand the point he was making I'm going to have to assume you are ESL
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And the counterpoint--again--is that the spending of the Military Industrial Complex doesn't even come close to what the Medical Industrial Complex costs us.

Again, last year's deficit was $1.77 trillion. If you add spending on the DoD and its associated programs ($1.118 trillion), the Department of Energy's nuclear administration ($32.8 billion) and the Department of Veteran's Affairs ($376 billion), the total ($1.526 trillion) is still $244 billion short of hitting even. By contrast, to repeat, the delta between the outlays of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, and the revenue for Medicare Part A, was $2.089 trillion.

IOW, you can eliminate every single penny of defense-related spending, and our national debt would still be growing. If LBJ's Great (haha) Society bullshit didn't exist, we'd have had a SURPLUS of $319 billion last fiscal year.

Re-posting the same shit he did about audits doesn't change the actual facts about annual government spending on these items. One MIC is, empirically, far more expensive than the other MIC, and is what's actually driving our debt increases.
 
draggs said:
Social security + medicare + medicaid cost estimate (2002-2011): $13.2 trillion

make of this what you will
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What I make of it is that we need to kill the poor and anyone over 67 so we can have a bigger military. If you vote for Mr. Racewar1488 in 2028 I promise I will make this happen as well as make the Space Force a real military branch. Manifest Destiny didn't end at California, it ends at the edge of the observable universe.
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President Trump has ordered aides to prepare for an extended blockade on Iran, aimed at further limiting its oil exports and economic activity to pressure Tehran on its nuclear program, WSJ reports. In recent meetings, Trump opted to continue squeezing Iran’s economy and oil exports by preventing shipping to and from its ports rather than resume bombing or walk away from the conflict.

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Bunker art by U.S. troops stationed at Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait during the Iran War, with over 210 air raid alerts marked during the timeframe.



The IDF are equipping cope cages to their vehicles in Lebanon.

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President Trump and senior aides met with oil and gas executives at the White House on Tuesday to discuss the energy impact of the Iran war and broader market conditions, Axios reports.

➡️ Officials said the talks covered domestic production, developments in Venezuela, oil futures, natural gas, and shipping.

➡️ Average U.S. gasoline prices reached $4.18 per gallon on Tuesday, marking the highest level since the war began and since 2022, but officials face limited options to offset the market disruption.
 
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