Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Yeah fuck that autist.

#EdisonGangGang
#DConly

 

[DavidS877]

And how does the heat effect your batteries exactly? Do you know? Did you even think about it before I brought it up?

What heat? If I'm close enough to a wildfire for me to feel heat I've fucked up. Same as those cars that melted trying to escape the Parasdise fire.

So your big emergency plan to help others is to either do nothing, move them out of the way, or sit around for an hour so they can go down the road a bit?

Here's my list of priorities in case of an emergency, it's the same when I rode a bicycle to work, or a gas car, or a diesel pickup.
1. The safety of myself and my family.
That's it, that's the list.
I have more options now to help another electric car as I can charge them, with my diesel pickup wouldn't have that option.
If I can assist someone without excessive risk to myself or my family by charging them, or towing them, or cramming them in my car with us then I will.
But at the end of the day, the corollary to rule 1 is:
"Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part."
If you live in the ass-end of nowhere like I do, you better have a plan, I have my plan, my escape routes for various situations, the car always gets charging the second I get home, etc. My risk profile now is no worse than it was when I owned a diesel pickup, in some ways having a giant battery helps as it makes things like non-disaster related power outages easier to deal with to at least keep the fridge running, which I can do for a couple days without interfering with using the car to escape.

 

[Bonesjones]

What heat? If I'm close enough to a wildfire for me to feel heat I've fucked up. Same as those cars that melted trying to escape the Parasdise fire.

"Why would I expect the unexpected?" I've already shown you are myopic idiot, you don't have to keep repeating it to me.

Here's my list of priorities in case of an emergency, it's the same when I rode a bicycle to work, or a gas car, or a diesel pickup.

Of course you were a biker, the stereotypes are undefeated.

That's it, that's the list.

Yeah I've told and shown that you are a selfish moron, you don't have to keep repeating it to me.

 

[geckogoy]

And how does the heat effect your batteries exactly? Do you know? Did you even think about it before I brought it up?

"Heh, guy doesn't even know batteries can burst into flames or explode if ruptured or exposed to fire " > drives into forest fire, gas tank explodes and dies

 

[Bonesjones]

"Heh, guy doesn't even know batteries can burst into flames or explode if ruptured or exposed to fire " > drives into forest fire, gas tank explodes and dies

Or that even modest temperature changes can drastically reduce battery life? Smug retards can't help but expose themselves.

 

[Stella d'Oro]

The closest chargers to me(and the closest gas stations) that are out of the volcano and wildfire zone and on a different power feed are about 60 miles

Also remember that you don't NEED a charger, if there's anywhere at all with power along a hypothetical evacuation route you can pull up anywhere with a 120v outlet and add a couple miles per hour with a level 1 cable. We're also not stuck lining up at what might be the only gas station open. RV campgrounds also have plenty of 30a and 50a 240v outlets available.

I keep my level 1 mobile power cord in my frunk just in case, if something bad happens being able to add even 2 miles an hour is better than being stranded.

in some ways having a giant battery helps as it makes things like non-disaster related power outages easier to deal with to at least keep the fridge running, which I can do for a couple days without interfering with using the car to escape.

Does your car support vehicle-to-home bidirectional charging? Mine only supports vehicle-to-load with a single 120v/20a circuit using the OEM adapter that plugs into the charge port. Unlike the cabin AC outlet it supports the full 1800 watts. V2H is a really good use case for an EV as many in Texas found out but a lot of models don't support it, yet. With selective use of appliances you can stay pretty comfortable with the 20a V2L adapter, but I'm not on a well so I don't NEED 240v during a grid outage.

 

[DavidS877]

even 2 miles an hour is better than being stranded

Luckily I can get all of 3 miles/hour on 120V. In a true emergency I'd try and figure out how to take my generator with me. Luckily we don't tend to have wide area disasters like hurricanes so just getting 60 miles is usually plenty.

Does your car support vehicle-to-home bidirectional charging?

It supports it, but it's a huge expense and highly complicated system since it needs an off-board inverter, transfer switch, etc, and if I get a different model car then it would have to be entirely replaced. The car has a 240V 30A outlet and a pair of 120V 20A outlets. Usually I just string an couple extension cords to the fridge and the Internet connection and my laptop. If it lasts more than overnight then I drag out the generator and use the interlock and inlet to use it instead. The problem is the car's on-board inverter has a neutral to ground bond and throws a fault if I were to use the generator inlet without some way to do a switched neutral since the house also has a neutral to ground bond. I've toyed with a smaller generator panel to use the car with or maybe one of those battery packs and power it off the car for isolation. Or, really, just drag the generator out and call it a day.

 

[Thiletonomics]

BYD has reported an 8th consecutive month of YoY declines in sales. / Archive



The drop in January is when China reduced EV subsidies, and February's drop is when people were waiting for BYD to unveil the new models in March.

 

[jeff7989]

"Heh, guy doesn't even know batteries can burst into flames or explode if ruptured or exposed to fire " > drives into forest fire, gas tank explodes and dies

"Gets baked alive because "her" incendiary grenade on wheels runs over a pothole"
Gotta love progress.

 

[The Ugly One]

I'm not sure what use cases I'm ignoring.

Use case 1: I'm driving to visit my in-laws who live 436 miles away. I don't want to add another hour plus at a charger.
Use case 2: I am not driving to a gay chemsex party

 

[Sam Losco]

Luckily I can get all of 3 miles/hour on 120V. In a true emergency I'd try and figure out how to take my generator with me.

Lolololol

Yes, in emergency I definitely want to have to stop every 3 miles for an hour just to get another 3 miles.

That's literally walking speed.

You're talking about taking a generator, which means you also have to take gasoline for the generator. If your car runs off a gasoline, then just ditch the generator and just take extra gasoline with you and it's a hell of a lot easier. You can still get further on a given volume of gasoline than the same volume of battery.

Stop all the mental gymnastics to justify our EV and just admit that EVs suck and are impractical in anything other than a daily, normal, peacetime, urban work commute.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

Stop all the mental gymnastics just to justify our EV and just admit that EVs suck and are impractical in anything other than a daily, normal, peacetime, urban work commute.

*Assuming there is a charger at home or work.

 

[DavidS877]

Use case 1: I'm driving to visit my in-laws who live 436 miles away. I don't want to add another hour plus at a charger.
Use case 2: I am not driving to a gay chemsex party

If you're not driving to a gay chemsex party then you'll need to rent or borrow a gas car. However for your gay chemsex party at your inlaws it looks like 1.5 hours added for the round trip and 3 charges, assuming your in-laws don't have a charger or you don't want to spend more than 5 minutes there. Personally I think for 15+ hours of driving I'd need to stop a couple times more. The one-way drive only needs one 25 minute stop.

*Assuming there is a charger at home or work.

If you don't have a charger at home, and more specifically one that can fully charge overnight then an EV is not a good plan. God forbid I mention redditors, but many of them are of the opinion that you need only enough of a charger for your planned daily driving, as has been discussed here that really screws you when you have to get somewhere in a hurry like out of the path of a tranny horde or to the hospital for a family member.

 

[The Ugly One]

then you'll need to rent or borrow a gas car

What if I just own useful things?

it looks like 1.5 hours added for the round trip and 3 charges...Personally I think for 15+ hours of driving

I don't live in your faggot state, so 435 miles is a 6 hour trip, and there isn't Tesla Megazord Battery Destroyer charger every 10 miles, either.

 

[Tenshi Eating A Corn Dog!]

Just saw what the Germans did to the International Harvester Scout.

Giant 60k EV "offroader" (IRS and IFS belong only on UTVs and ATVs when it comes to offroad applications) nobody will buy. Like a Bronco but with even less market appeal, which coincidentally describes the market for classic Scouts and Broncos.

Should we take bets on how long it takes this VW subsidiary to be shuttered?

 

[Betonhaus]

Um, get in the car and drive 300 miles? There's actually a bigger chance my EV is full enough to get 300 miles than my gas car was. Power outage is only a thing if I get home and immediately the volcano erupts, then I can still probably get at least 80 miles, same as if I put off getting gas until tomorrow. And around here at least none of the gas stations seem to have backup generators in case of power outages

Except if I go on a trip with a gas car I can just take a 5 minute detour to gas up, even if my tank was previously almost empty. If I wanted to have a trip with an electric car I would've had to make sure it's fully charged ahead of time because it will take hours to top it up.

 

[DavidS877]

Except if I go on a trip with a gas car I can just take a 5 minute detour to gas up, even if my tank was previously almost empty. If I wanted to have a trip with an electric car I would've had to make sure it's fully charged ahead of time because it will take hours to top it up.

You're assuming your gas station has electricity, which they won't, since once the power company realized they started yet another giant forest fire they turned off all the power in the area. And that one station with a generator has a 3 hour long line and the fire is 2 hours away.
If you live in a disaster prone area, or California, you should keep your car and your electric car pretty full at all times. Here in the west the 20-30% minimum I always get home with is enough to get out of the way of a fire. In someplace like Florida with a Hurricane, or San Francisco with a Zombie Tranny Horde you'd want a much larger margin since you need to go farther.

 

[The Ugly One]

You're assuming your gas station has electricity, which they won't, since once the power company realized they started yet another giant forest fire they turned off all the power in the area.

But you'll be stopping every 3 miles to charge your electric car for a half hour.

 

[DavidS877]

But you'll be stopping every 3 miles to charge your electric car for a half hour.

Nah.
Will take me a full hour to get 3 miles.
But since the power's out it doesn't actually matter.
Gas or Electric, if you live somewhere where the forest is likely to explode in flames you better keep at least 100 miles "range" in your car at all times. Especially if your electric companies response to high fire danger is to turn off the power.