🌟 Internet Famous Vivienne Medrano / VivziePop / NozzArts / @VizzieBizzie / xZoOPhobiAx / VivMind / Spindlehorse Studios - Bisexual Fujoshi Now Turned Asexual ; Criticism Denier ; Ruined Her Friendships Over Criticism ; Shotacon ; Nepo Baby ; Female Andrew Dobson ; Drove A Former Friend to Suicide Over Art Theft ; Verdict Is Still In, And No One Wants To Have Sex With Her

[Dragonofthenorth22]

Not only that she also is friends with Norry and iirc there was at least one other person who flat out defended a pedophile.

Who is Norry and what did they do?

 

[WhiteNiggasGardens]

It's funny how obvious this is, that the cancel Chai thing is only the weakest excuses to try to deflect. It doesn't matter what she did, and especially doesn't matter that she shipped dragons or whatever. It invalidates exactly zero of her points. She's one of the few people actively around who's been aware of Viv both as a cow and a horrible person for years ,that has a ton of stuff screenshotted and archived, so if they care so much about what she's supposedly done, they should really care what Vivzie has and therefore want Chai to be heard, right? Lol

There are little valid refutes to many things she's exposed, and Viv has 1000x more points against her that have existed for years. They obviously know this, and they absolutely hate it. I just find it really funny how hypocritical and obvious this all is, how it's just Viv fans circlejerking when everyone else can see clear as day what they're doing. They act like this is a video game where they can use an exploit to spam counter all of the enemy's attacks.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

It's funny how obvious this is, that the cancel Chai thing is only the weakest excuses to try to deflect. It doesn't matter what she did, and especially doesn't matter that she shipped dragons or whatever. It invalidates exactly zero of her points. She's one of the few people actively around who's been aware of Viv both as a cow and a horrible person for years ,that has a ton of stuff screenshotted and archived, so if they care so much about what she's supposedly done, they should really care what Vivzie has and therefore want Chai to be heard, right? Lol

There are little valid refutes to many things she's exposed, and Viv has 1000x more points against her that have existed for years. They obviously know this, and they absolutely hate it. I just find it really funny how hypocritical and obvious this all is, how it's just Viv fans circlejerking when everyone else can see clear as day what they're doing. They act like this is a game where they can use an exploit to spam counter all of the enemy's attacks.

Most of them are guilty of the shit they claim chai did so its just even funnier. I considered making a subthread community watch on the fandom as it's a literal cesspool but thought against it.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

I don't care that I am nigger double posting this is my fucking thread.

Here's what I have been witnessing on Twitter during this situation:

The following stans claims against Chai are as followed:

- He apparently orchestrated alongside, Brony Fandon't (Who was mentioned in relations to BlackGryph0n, a lolcow in his own right.), VivzieReciepts and a few other people.
- Chai's victims are apparently KoinkyDoinky, DestinyDoodles and a bunch of various literal whos butthurt about them being called out as degenerates.
- Hes a pedozoo and a stalker/doxxer for some reason

Here's the thing I can easily tell you the allegations made against him are just as we all are pointing out deflections.

They wanna lead us on a wild goose chase because it's their only way.

You see, they dont know what Discord Compact Mode is, they complained it's "shot that way." they play virtual detective doing a lot of "claiming" and not enough "backing up." so what if one out of many screencaps are fake? She has tons of other proof of deplorable behavior. I do want to mention the doxxing claims, if you go onto @VizzieBizzie her PUBLIC INSTAGRAM with everything on it, anyone can find her parents enough because she doxes herself, the same with her sister. Not our fault we used what she gave us to actually link to stuff that's PUBLIC.
Now onto the people who hates Chai:
I already mentioned in the twitter thread these people are "unreliable." the one person I do want to point out is not genuine is DestinyDoodles, I smell shit from them and not because the shit their pants, it's because they're posting in a situation that's serious tell me farmers, if you were doxxed, sent rape threats, death threats, swatted, etc would you, ot would your first immediate action was to go online to announce it and risk your life? Yes or No? If you said yes, you're a suicidal maniac, if you said no, you're crazy, Destiny was the victim of BlackGryph0n and they deserve to be heard, but to use that status to accuse others, that have not mentioned a single damn negative thing about you, is disgusting.
I am sorry she went through that, but it's no excuse to shift blame on people who have DONE NOTHING to harass you.
Also keep in mind DD is a die hard fan of the show. Chai is always fair in his assessments and NEVER once assumes bad shit, and even tells people off for assuming shit of him, here's what I can find on "negativity" of DD.

They were mentioned twice directly and featured in the screenshots buddy buddy with people who I have already talked about. Clearly, I do believe they're right to feel slighted, but their entire problem is constantly hanging around people who have supported/drawn CP. A victim of grooming should not be associating publicly with people like this.
Then there's Koinky, someone who alleged to have a close friend doxxed from stans who didn't like them criticizing Helluva, Koinky is someone who has meltdowns a lot, and sounds like someone with BPD. So I don't trust their stances. The reason why Koinky switched up on Chai is currently shown in this document. (Archived .pdf in the attatchement below.)
Here's the gist of it from Chai's document.

Koinky and co decided to park their asses in the server where they talked mad shit about Viv, they were borderline A-loggy at times and were only there to A-Log. That's all they did, when a user who was once close to Viv commented on the negativity, Koinky tried to claim that person made them uncomfortable, and well, they demanded that Chai removed them Now, Now, Now, NOW! this was met with a response of "No" because the way I see it in the document, no one is going to be banned as long as they were learning from their actions.


Koinky in this server was mad that they couldn't be a negative nancy so they resorted into feigning that they were uncomfortable and since their friends were also in the server they too backed up their claims, but here's the thing. They wanted to be mean girls about Viv, and threw a massive tantrum, they from my understanding were gaslighting the hell out of Chai and trying to make it seem like he was not being reasonable when he actually was trying to make them more commadating by meeting them halfway, any "opp" against Chai are Viv asslickers and social climbers who became delusioned because they can't win an argument against someone whose rebuttal is pure "I don't give a fuck" this community all in all is stuck in the era where we used to laugh at people who think they're special.

Viv Stans have an issue comprehending jokes and in a way exhibit ChibiReviews like behavior, is this community deserving of a thread? Yes, but at the same time, I do believe the thread is this one, but considering how this is a community that operates in droves it is a community worth documenting and I won't mind working with others to make it a reality. Come and DM me if you want to work on a outline.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

God she is so fucking egotistical if she thinks that people are hating her and not taking her seriously because she is a woman. No dumbass, people are hating you and not taking you seriously because you respond to criticism in immature ways and don't shut the fuck up about politics. Pure lolcow behavior.

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Viv, my professors from art school (who have way more experience than you in the animation industry) have criticized that the saturation of your show is too damn high. My script writing professor said that your show got picked up by Amazon to stream because of how big of fandom it had on the internet. Not because it was good; just that it already had an audience for it. Half a class and I watched the music video of "Happy Day in Hell" when it first come out, and we were constantly shitting on how terrible it looked. One of the people had to stop watching midway because the bouncing of the camera was making then nauseous.

I know you talk about your former "friends" behind their back. But guess what Viv? We're all doing it too. Why do you think Lackadaisy didn't want to have your studio have a producer credit? Because they don't want to associate with you Viv. They know your reputation. And pretty soon before you know it, Hazbin and Helluva will be over. Then what are you going to do? You have the Zoophobia mini series being worked on, but I bet it will not get the same recognition as Hazbin or Helluva did. Even good showrunners have a hard time getting people to look at their other work outside the one that made them popular in the first place. What makes you think you'll do any better?

 

[TexasRanger]

Viv, my professors from art school (who have way more experience than you in the animation industry) have criticized that the saturation of your show is too damn high. My script writing professor said that your show got picked up by Amazon to stream because of how big of fandom it had on the internet. Not because it was good; just that it already had an audience for it. Half a class and I watched the music video of "Happy Day in Hell" when it first come out, and we were constantly shitting on how terrible it looked. One of the people had to stop watching midway because the bouncing of the camera was making then nauseous.

But guess what Viv? We're all doing it too. Why do you think Lackadaisy didn't want to have your studio have a producer credit? Because they don't want to associate with you Viv. They know your reputation. And pretty soon before you know it, Hazbin and Helluva will be over. Then what are you going to do? You have the Zoophobia mini series being worked on, but I bet it will not get the same recognition as Hazbin or Helluva did. Even good showrunners have a hard time getting people to look at their other work outside the one that made them popular in the first place. What makes you think you'll do any better?

Hmmm, valid points although let's not forget one thing-there are a LOT of shitty artists with prestigeous art school degrees so I take such opinions with a grain of salt.

For me, the saturation works, I find it vibrant.

How successful is your writing profesor btw? I agree about the writing but that could easily be improved with more episodes per season imo. I agree about the fandom size issue-from Amazon's view it's just plain risk aversion. In Japan for example, it's not enough to get picked up by Shonen Jump. You need to stay in the higher echelons of their reader -based ranking. If you don't they terminate your contract and find s.o who's work is more popular. If you already have a huge fanbase you have acquired through a blog or local manga events, you have a better chance from the get-go. Drawing manga is cheap, animation still is quite expensive in comparison so I don't blame Amazon here.

Quote: I know you talk about your former "friends" behind their back.

Yeah, that is a huge character flaw, plus the constant political/identity issue sperging.

Quote:...their other work outside the one that made them popular in the first place.

If I was her I would rather want to concentrate on HH and have more episodes, with good writing and a focus on the topic of redemption (as a Catholic, that resonates deeply with me). Instead of creating a heap of mediocre shows that will be forgotten. Maybe have a prequel/sequel spin-off later (like Helluva Boss if it was actually good)

But we can not have nice things here.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Hmmm, valid points although let's not forget one thing-there are a LOT of shitty artists with prestigeous art school degrees so I take such opinions with a grain of salt.

Oh believe me I know. For every good artist with a degree, there's about 20 of them who aren't. I'm just using them because according to Viv, you have to have a school degree like hers to understand how animation production works apparently.

For me, the saturation works, I find it vibrant.

I suppose it is a preference. There's other issues that I have with the style of the show.

How successful is your writing profesor btw?

Without doxxing the poor fellow, his most prominent work is probably writing for the older spongebob seasons. Don't know if he's still teaching since it has been a while since I've taken his classes, much less going to school in general. It's also where I got most of my information for Amazon Prime as he has a friend who works there. It's how I knew about the whole deal with Helluva Boss getting picked up by Prime. It's also how I know Viv can keep her mouth shut when working with people who are higher up than her. Don't think she would have gotten five seasons if she did act like she does on social media.

I agree about the writing but that could easily be improved with more episodes per season imo.

Let me stop you right there. Hazbin Hotel would have not gotten better with more episodes. Not with Viv in charge of telling the story. Helluva Boss is more than enough proof of that. It's why Timber is I believe her best work because it solely relies on visual storytelling with no dialogue. That's where she excels at. She should have been an animation director.

If I was her I would rather want to concentrate on HH and have more episodes, with good writing and a focus on the topic of redemption (as a Catholic, that resonates deeply with me). Instead of creating a heap of mediocre shows that will be forgotten. Maybe have a prequel/sequel spin-off later (like Helluva Boss if it was actually good)

Maybe in the universe where she didn't screw over her friends who helped got Hazbin Hotel popular in the first place, but we don't live in that timeline.

 

[TexasRanger]

@InJailOutSoon

"according to Viv, you have to have a school degree like hers to understand how animation production works apparently."
ooooooh,that changes things.How arrogant

I was thinking more episodes+ a team of good writers to "support" her.HB is.....trash imo. Although there is potential imo.
May I ask about the screwing her friends over thing in short? I'm still in the beginning with this lolcow....Also, OT but: Asian companies often have stipulations as to how their artists are allowed to present themselves on social media.Imagine a conservative helluva boss at Amazon telling Vivzie to stop tweeting crap on X and to
concentrate on i.e everything else

 

[Dr. Butt]

the saturation of your show is too damn high. My script writing professor said that your show got picked up by Amazon to stream because of how big of fandom it had on the internet. Not because it was good; just that it already had an audience for it. Half a class and I watched the music video of "Happy Day in Hell" when it first come out, and we were constantly shitting on how terrible it looked. One of the people had to stop watching midway because the bouncing of the camera was making then nauseous.

I don't even care to get that detailed in technical criticism because I'm still not over the fact that there exist motherfucking continuity errors in this massive-budget, modern day, mainstream studio show owned by Amazon. Missing cel frames, inconsistent lighting, and objects randomly disappearing from the hands of characters who are the focus of a scene sound to me like things that would get you a failing grade on a school project, but I guess if it's the fault of the korean slaves who actually draw them for you it's all right.
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[The Nothingness]

So any posts or likes from Viv about rich people cosplaying as the working class protesting her employer, Jeff Bezos, at the Met Gala?

 

[InJailOutSoon]

May I ask about the screwing her friends over thing in short? I'm still in the beginning with this lolcow.

A good place to start is with the OP of this thread as it goes into about almost every controversy with her. But here is kind of a base opinion from me on everything; Viv really doesn't like it when someone else gets more positive attention than her on her own works. I theorize that's why she started spreading rumors about Ashely (the person who was in charge of the Huniecast streams that basically gave free promotion to Hazbin Hotel, which made a lot of people thing she was the showrunner) being abusive to her at the time boyfriend Michael. I also theorize that's why Michael didn't get to voice Angel Dust in the actual show due to dating Ashley (and probably also why Ed didn't get to voice Alastor cause he was closely associated with them as well). Also, she wanted to rub elbows with Broadway people, so almost every VA from the pilot didn't get to renew their roles. Which in itself isn't so bad; it's just that allegedly she didn't tell them ahead of time.

Viv threw Dollcreep under the bus for sus shit, even though Viv was also participating is said sus shit. Then there's the whole KenDraws situation which is another rabbit hole to go through. Basically helped a lot with the writing and story of the pilot, but Viv didn't want to give them a writing credit because...reasons I guess. She didn't pay her lead comic artist Faustisse well, so that's why those Hazbin comics got cancelled after only 2. Kyra (while not directly involved with Hazbin Hotel helped a lot with Viv's earlier projects as they were college friends), also has bad blood with her though I don't know about what exactly. Kyra made a comic around the time of their falling out which is theorized that it was about Viv being allegedly a "wolf in sheep's clothing". Viv has talked shit about her and her work. Also, about Dana, who was another person that went to Viv's school at around the same time. I don't know why she hates her though.

Funny enough, it seems like every friend that she had had a falling out with was either a woman, transman, or non-binary. She gives off a very "catty bitchy mean girl" vibe.

 

[TexasRanger]

I don't even care to get that detailed in technical criticism because I'm still not over the fact that there exist mortherfucking continuity errors in this massive-budget, modern day, mainstream studio show owned by Amazon. Missing cel frames, inconsistent lighting, and objects randomly disappearing from the hands of characters who are the focus of a scene sound to me like things that would get you a failing grade on a school project, but I guess if it's the fault of the korean slaves who actually draw them for you it's all right.

Sorry for asking this but-any chance the work was outsourced to North Korea? ( that has been an actual thing in the past...)

And: watched the show on my mobile phone in the gym so I missed everything you are describing. My guess is most people do as well, for various reasons

 

[Dr. Butt]

Sorry for asking this but-any chance the work was outsourced to North Korea? ( that has been an actual thing in the past...)

And: watched the show on my mobile phone in the gym so I missed everything you are describing. My guess is most people do as well, for various reasons

It's an actual thing all the time. Guy Deslisle wrote a whole book with no names changed about going over there to supervise a crew for a Canadian company. It's not a secret, it's just the showbiz version of NK clams and shrimp and whatnot. I don't know if Amazon does it.