Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

[The best and greatest]

I wonder if such a strategy has ever backfired on anyone.

I'm not saying there aren't risks or downstream consequences. Only that its an option.

 

[Nice Stick]

This thread needs to be renamed "Iran Crisis → Chase The Rainbow Mass Debates Thread".

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

let me explain it for you since you're functionally illiterate like a nigger
You said the olive pollen study doesn't count because it was done using already compromised Israelis.
I showed that same study was done on both jewish and Palestinian patients with allergies to pollen, and the Palestinian patients still had much lower rates of olive pollen sensitivity compared to the jewish ones.

you stupid nigger, the entire point is that it was applied to ALL Israelis

quoting the pedo lover:

If they were from the Middle East they wouldn’t have allergies to olive pollen

By his own criteria, the atopic Palestinians wouldn't be from the middle east either

>cites 6000 year old kike god promise to justify genocide

no one actually does this

But in this tale, the Israelites refuse to depart after defeat. They want another go. And another go. Goliath defeats each in honourable combat. Then some little shit kills him from a distance with a projectile weapon. And his mates launch an unprovoked attack. To some the moral is "brains beats brawn" but the Phillistines weren't stupid (and actually historically were a pretty interesting civilisation) and nor was the tradition a bad one. What the story shows to everyone else is that some people, through treachery, devalued a tradition that saved lives and which was used to settle disputes. If it's true - but that's kind of academic because what matters is the cultural significance of the 'lesson'.

It's one of those things like not using assassination of enemy leaders as a tool of war, because (a) it just makes it riskier for everyone and (b) it makes actually negotiating peace much, much harder. It's a tactic you only employ if you don't actually want peace.

smug european talks about the biblical tale of David and Goliath but would never actually stoop so low as to actually read the bible:

https://www.sefaria.org/I_Samuel.17.

But in this tale, the Israelites refuse to depart after defeat. They want another go. And another go. Goliath defeats each in honourable combat

This literally doesn't happen. Goliath challenged the Israelites for 40 days and none stepped up until David. Your entire post is idiotic.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

This literally doesn't happen. Goliath challenged the Israelites for 40 days and none stepped up until David. Your entire post is idiotic.

Unless you count Elhanan....

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Unless you count Elhanan....

1 Chronicles 21:25:

And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan the son of Jair slew Lahmi, the brother of Goliath the Gittite, whose spear staff was like a weaver's beam.

 

[Retrodogkiller]

I just asked what pro-Iranian posters would do or say when the US eventually prevails.
Then you all started chimping out, not sure what your problem is, I'm just asking questions.

No one here is pro Iran you shitskin. We just dont want white Americans dying for Israel or to be stuck in another forever war.

 

[The best and greatest]

No one here is pro Iran you shitskin.

If that were true it wouldn't induce so much foreign seethe when I bring up America prevailing in a war against Iran.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Slowly strangle all economic life out of the country over the ensuing months/years until what's left of the IRGC state collapses in on itself.

I dont know man. Suicide dolphins sounds more like a solid plan to me.

 

[MeltyTW]

I just asked what pro-Iranian posters would do or say when the US eventually prevails.
Then you all started chimping out, not sure what your problem is, I'm just asking questions.

no you didnt, also the timeline posting isnt to say america can't beat iran, it was pointing out that israel and trump's obvious lie that this would be a painless war was an obvious lie, they literally named the "12 day war" that as a propaganda boon explicitly, and they called us babies saying that was the ultimate and final time we would need to attack iran, then this happened.

Ultimately regime change will take boots on the ground, but not as many as some would think.

we dont fucking want boots on the ground, this whole thing has had miggers go from "itll be over in a flash chud dont worry!" to "freedom isnt free chud we need short term pain for long term gain" its obvious youre trying to boil the frog slowly for a war no american wanted in the first place. do you get it? youve gone from "we arent raping your country lol" to "calm the fuck down chud no rape happens without a little pain and we even lubed your nation"

If that were true it wouldn't induce so much foreign seethe when I bring up America prevailing in a war against Iran.

No one wanted the fucking war. how the fuck do americans benefit from american deaths, higher prices in an already shit economy threatened by the roll out of ai, and leaving dems a free election or two or three? what am i supposed to go hoorah usa usa! because we managed to bomb some school girls you worthless son of a bitch?

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

smug european talks about the biblical tale of David and Goliath but would never actually stoop so low as to actually read the bible:

Every time you bring up some completely unrelated and retarded story from the Old Testament, I get closer to just wanting to nuke the entire Middle East. I don't fucking care about the 3000 year story that supposedly justifies bombing a school today twice. Genuinely, I've only seen Muslims be this retarded and think it convinces someone. I don't know how Israeli society managed to descend to the level of Muslims in less than 100 years, but you savages perfected all the worst traits of Islamic society.

 

[MeltyTW]

Every time you bring up some completely unrelated and retarded story from the Old Testament, I get closer to just wanting to nuke the entire Middle East. I don't fucking care about the 3000 year that supposedly justifies bombing a school today twice. Genuinely, I've only seen Muslims be this retarded and think it convinces someone. I don't know how Israeli society managed to descend to the level of Muslims in less than 100 years, but you savages perfected all the worst traits of Islamic society.

theres also the fact palestinians also share dna with jews, like hila is actually related to palestinians heavily iirc. so even if you go by biblical prophecy us tax dollars are killing muslim and christian hebrew descendants at the behest of jewish and secular hebrew descendants so its complete and utter fucking nonsense no matter how you slice it

 

[bread n circuses]

No one here is pro Iran you shitskin. We just dont want white Americans dying for Israel or to be stuck in another forever war.

At best it is a preference for Iran over Israel, but that's an exceptionally low bar to clear

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

theres also the fact palestinians also share dna with jews, like hila is actually related to palestinians heavily iirc. so even if you go by biblical prophecy us tax dollars are killing muslim and christian hebrew descendants at the behest of jewish and secular hebrew descendants so its complete and utter fucking nonsense no matter how you slice it

Israel had the opportunity to develop a society from scratch with a new language, culture, and ideology. All that they managed with virtually unending support of the West is to create another shithole with the savage culture of the least developed Muslim states and the genocidal talent of Eastern Europeans. I'd rather interact with Saudis and Emiratis.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Every time you bring up some completely unrelated and retarded story from the Old Testament, I get closer to just wanting to nuke the entire Middle East. I don't fucking care about the 3000 year story that supposedly justifies bombing a school today twice. Genuinely, I've only seen Muslims be this retarded and think it convinces someone. I don't know how Israeli society managed to descend to the level of Muslims in less than 100 years, but you savages perfected all the worst traits of Islamic society.

I didn't bring it up, someone else did and then another person gave their idiotic take on it

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

I didn't bring it up, someone else did and then another person gave their idiotic take on it

I don't need screenshots from the Books of Samuel or another fairy tale from the Book of Esther. I don't need to hear your idiotic take next to some Turkish slut's. Stop posting 3000 year old stories to justify being a victim like some retarded Muslim.

 

[Butterschmalz]

I didn't bring it up, someone else did and then another person gave their idiotic take on it

Never made it as a Wiseman
Couldnt make it as a Shlomo shilling
Tired of living as a Goldman
I m sick of bagels with cream cheese filling

This is how you remind me of how gas really smells

 

[The best and greatest]

No one wanted the fucking war

Clearly that's not the case or it wouldn't have happened.

This war was a political project literal decades in the making, but 'nobody wanted it'? A lot of people wanted it. A lot of people STILL want it and want it to continue. You don't speak for those people.

how the fuck do americans benefit from american deaths

They don't. They benefit from destroying their enemies, which the IRGC state is, because it is a terrorist organization holding the country of Persia hostage who's stated reason for existing is to destroy everything not in lockstep with their Islamic tenants including me.

The IRGC state has since its inception done everything in its power to fuck with America, they are directly responsible for the deaths of American service men abroad in wars they ostensibly had no part in. We've always been at war, some people are just too weak to see it (Or too brown to have an opinion worth anything)

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

We've always been at war, some people are just too weak to see it (Or too brown to have an opinion worth anything)

We've always been at war with Eastasia, chud. Stop being antisemitic.

Edit: Beyond parody.

 

[The best and greatest]

We've always been at war with Eastasia, chud. Stop being antisemitic.

Edit: Beyond parody.

Yes I know the line, which is why its extra funny when its unironically true

Edit: For those who don't read "We've always been at war with East Asia" Is a line about government rewriting history. It doesn't actually have anything to do with the subject at hand

 

[MeltyTW]

This war was a political project literal decades in the making, but 'nobody wanted it'? A lot of people wanted it. A lot of people STILL want it and want it to continue. You don't speak for those people.

i dont speak for jews and trump and their slaves. by no one i obviously mean the vast vast majority of americans, and if youre going to bullshit me and pretend a majority of americans need to want something for it to be pushed through ill point you to immigration among other issues. fuck off with your semantic kikery and go die in the war you want so badly,

They don't. They benefit from destroying their enemies, which the IRGC state is, because it is a terrorist organization holding the country of Persia hostage who's stated reason for existing is to destroy everything not in lockstep with their Islamic tenants including me.

you dont give one single shit about persians stfu trump gave that away with his threats to bomb their civilian infrastructure in its entirety and if he could do it without a market collapse he would, stfu you absolute kike slave.

The IRGC state has since its inception done everything in its power to fuck with America, they are directly responsible for the deaths of American service men abroad in wars they ostensibly had no part in. We've always been at war, some people are just too weak to see it (Or too brown to have an opinion worth anything)

oh wow they opposed more wars to dominate their region at the behest of jews that we had no reason to take part in. they sound kinda cool for trying to keep us the fuck out of the region. it only makes sense to view them as an enemy if you think no one has a right to defend themselves from oppressive kikery or that we should be fucking around in the region both of which i disagree with. now off with you, go kill yourself and clean the population up, one less subversive kike.