Trainwreck Nailah "Mama Nails" Winkfield / Latasha Spears-Winkfield - Jahi McMath's mother, kept dead child in apartment to play dress-up, put on makeup and paint nails

but if you're outside the US it can be really difficult to find information on this case - so much politicking, religiosity and general jostling for position around the fulcrum of this case obfuscates a lot of the facts.
When this was relevant there wasn't a lot of information on the standard, nightly news' either. They only reported Jahi as having a tonsillectomy rather than treatment for sleep apnea. They also didn't mention the smuggled hamburger, only that she had reportedly asked for a popsicle. And yeah, they didn't say anything about the suctioning either.
 
No. That's why they would be glued now. (Well, that, and because tape doesn't look as "natural" in photos.)When embalming, a thing like a contact lens with tiny teeth that grip the eyelids is used.
It's not common practice to glue closed the eyes of a relative that you believe is not dead afaik. Patients that are in a persistent vegetative state might open their eyes but those who are comatose or brain dead usually have their eyes closed. Patients in a vegetative state also appear look around.

The family does appear to cover her eyes on some pictures. That is more reasonable than glue, which would be considered fairly inhumane to do to someone who you believe is still alive.

You have to remember, this is not a literal corpse here. Being brain dead, she might be legally dead but her body is still composed of living cells that are kept alive via medical intervention. Her family asserts that she is alive. It is highly unlikely that her eyes are good shut.
 
I read on one of the articles that they believe that Jahi started her period during this and that another person commented that a nurse had testified that the "period" was a form of decomp or bedsore seepage from the crotch region. Now, a body can maintain a period in a PVS (Permanent Vegetative State) but it can't just start a period out of nowhere, can it? Isn't the brain what begins a period? Then the ovaries maintain it? The child had breasts at the time of surgery, so there is a pretty good chance that she had already started her menses before 13. Her mother is using this as a "see she is alive she went thru puberty!!!!" proof.

Also, where is her biodad in all this?
 
Someone did the research on these shoes, the retail price was right about $250.
Interesting. That about the same cost her mother claims her weekly vitamin regime is.
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Also, where is her biodad in all this?
Lol c'mon son... I think we all know why the bio dad isn't involved.
 
Just to be very clear, since several posters have asked, Jahi is very fucking, totally brain dead. Six independent medical doctor have certified brain death, California even issued her a death certificate. The only people who think otherwise (or pretend to) are some looney toons fundie doctor who doesn't think "brain death" is real, her family and their batshit crazy supporters.

It's not common practice to glue closed the eyes of a relative that you believe is not dead afaik. Patients that are in a persistent vegetative state might open their eyes but those who are comatose or brain dead usually have their eyes closed. Patients in a vegetative state also appear look around.

The family does appear to cover her eyes on some pictures. That is more reasonable than glue, which would be considered fairly inhumane to do to someone who you believe is still alive.

You have to remember, this is not a literal corpse here. Being brain dead, she might be legally dead but her body is still composed of living cells that are kept alive via medical intervention. Her family asserts that she is alive. It is highly unlikely that her eyes are good shut.

I'm actually curious what is going on with her eyes, her mother goes to great pains to make sure they are covered by sunglasses, tape, instagram filters, etc... in every single photo. If it was just her eyes opening I can't imagine she would be so concerned about concealing it. Terri Schavio's family counted on her eyes being open to try and give the impression someone was still home in her body. Maybe's it's because Jahi's eyes are fixed and dilated? Fixed and dilated is an obvious sign of death, maybe they have even deteriorated and are disturbing to look at after exposure to air/not blinking? I don't know what is going on but it's definitely not pretty given the lengths momma nails goes to to conceal them for years now.
 
I read on one of the articles that they believe that Jahi started her period during this and that another person commented that a nurse had testified that the "period" was a form of decomp or bedsore seepage from the crotch region. Now, a body can maintain a period in a PVS (Permanent Vegetative State) but it can't just start a period out of nowhere, can it? Isn't the brain what begins a period? Then the ovaries maintain it? The child had breasts at the time of surgery, so there is a pretty good chance that she had already started her menses before 13. Her mother is using this as a "see she is alive she went thru puberty!!!!" proof.

Also, where is her biodad in all this?
A person in a coma or vegetative state can do have a period. If the hypothalamus, pituitary gland and ovaries are still intact, then menstruation can still occur.
 
Just to be very clear, since several posters have asked, Jahi is very fucking, totally brain dead. Six independent medical doctor have certified brain death, California even issued her a death certificate. The only people who think otherwise (or pretend to) are some looney toons fundie doctor who doesn't think "brain death" is real, her family and their batshit crazy supporters.



I'm actually curious what is going on with her eyes, her mother goes to great pains to make sure they are covered by sunglasses, tape, instagram filters, etc... in every single photo. If it was just her eyes opening I can't imagine she would be so concerned about concealing it. Terri Schavio's family counted on her eyes being open to try and give the impression someone was still home in her body. Maybe's it's because Jahi's eyes are fixed and dilated? Fixed and dilated is an obvious sign of death, maybe they have even deteriorated and are disturbing to look at after exposure to air/not blinking? I don't know what is going on but it's definitely not pretty given the lengths momma nails goes to to conceal them for years now.


In a pic or 2 I saw, there is a dark/black spot on the skin near one of her eyes. It appears to me that this might be what her mother is trying to conceal.
 
A person in a coma or vegetative state can do have a period. If the hypothalamus, pituitary gland and ovaries are still intact, then menstruation can still occur.

There's reason to believe she started her period before her surgery, but the claims about her starting her period while brain dead all come from mamma nails (with no actual proof) so take that for what you will. Mama nails will lie about anything to further her narrative so I don't believe a goddamned word she says without proof. (And the bitch has made a TON of claims and when proof/evidence is asked for she never provides a shred.)
 
He was around when this began, but has been absent for quite a while now.

Nails made sure to have him excluded from participating in any settlement talks. She doesn't want him to be able to get any money.
Her current husband was included in some of the court papers, but has no legal standing to sue on Jahis' behalf.
 
Just to be very clear, since several posters have asked, Jahi is very fucking, totally brain dead. Six independent medical doctor have certified brain death, California even issued her a death certificate. The only people who think otherwise (or pretend to) are some looney toons fundie doctor who doesn't think "brain death" is real, her family and their batshit crazy supporters.



I'm actually curious what is going on with her eyes, her mother goes to great pains to make sure they are covered by sunglasses, tape, instagram filters, etc... in every single photo. If it was just her eyes opening I can't imagine she would be so concerned about concealing it. Terri Schavio's family counted on her eyes being open to try and give the impression someone was still home in her body. Maybe's it's because Jahi's eyes are fixed and dilated? Fixed and dilated is an obvious sign of death, maybe they have even deteriorated and are disturbing to look at after exposure to air/not blinking? I don't know what is going on but it's definitely not pretty given the lengths momma nails goes to to conceal them for years now.
You are correct. The opened eyes would remain fixed and the pupils would not respond to light in a brain dead patient.
 
There's reason to believe she started her period before her surgery, but the claims about her starting her period while brain dead all come from mamma nails (with no actual proof) so take that for what you will. Mama nails will lie about anything to further her narrative so I don't believe a goddamned word she says without proof. (And the bitch has made a TON of claims and when proof/evidence is asked for she never provides a shred.)
Mom also tried to say Jahi developed a bosom while brain-dead, but pictures taken before the surgery show she had well-developed breasts.
 
There's reason to believe she started her period before her surgery, but the claims about her starting her period while brain dead all come from mamma nails (with no actual proof) so take that for what you will. Mama nails will lie about anything to further her narrative so I don't believe a goddamned word she says without proof. (And the bitch has made a TON of claims and when proof/evidence is asked for she never provides a shred.)
I don't need to believe her or not. It's a fact that as long as the hypothalamic-pituitary-ovarian axis is functioning, regardless of consciousness, menstruation can still occur. It literally means nothing with regard to her potential recovery, of which there is none if she is brain dead.
 
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I've read through the Hooligan thread. You see the occasional bout of consciousness or emotion (perceived or no) in them and then blip, back to blank. In this child I see nothing.

If you thought even for a moment that this child was alive, why in god's name would you put that sticky gauze over her eyes to keep them closed? I've only ever seen that shit to preserve eyes for donation, or to prevent the patient opening their eyes under anesthesia during surgery (:powerlevel:). If your child stood any chance of waking up in a bedazzled room of loved ones, what is the point of holding eyes shut?
This picture was clearly taken to show what a "strong woman" Mama Nails is and not to show that Jahi is alive.
 
Interesting. That about the same cost her mother claims her weekly vitamin regime is.
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Lol c'mon son... I think we all know why the bio dad isn't involved.

Bitch is stupid. Anyone who is shoveling that amount of vitamins into a comatose/brain dead person is just wasting their money. Hell, anyone who shovels that into a LIVE person is wasting their money - mainly because the body isn't able to process that amount. Jahi's mom may very well be poisoning her through overuse of vitamins. TPN is called TOTAL parietal (sp) nutrition for a reason.
 
I don't need to believe her or not. It's a fact that as long as the hypothalamic-pituitary-ovarian axis is functioning, regardless of consciousness, menstruation can still occur. It literally means nothing with regard to her potential recovery, of which there is none if she is brain dead.

I wasn't implying anything about its signifigance either way - just pointing out the mother lies about shit constantly to try and give the impression Jahi is still alive and growing. Shit about her starting her period is just one more claim she's made to throw on the pile of meaningless crap, lies and bullshit. Whether she had been having a period before her surgery or started one afterwards has jack shit to do with her being brain dead - but it's that type of crap mamma nails can feed to her few remaining, ignorant believers as proof she's alive!!

Seriously, there were creepy comments on FB by weirdos congratulating Jahi on becoming a little woman now. These ppl are fucked in the head.
 
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Bitch is stupid. Anyone who is shoveling that amount of vitamins into a comatose/brain dead person is just wasting their money. Hell, anyone who shovels that into a LIVE person is wasting their money - mainly because the body isn't able to process that amount. Jahi's mom may very well be poisoning her through overuse of vitamins. TPN is called TOTAL parietal (sp) nutrition for a reason.
I think it's just to scam people for more donation money. That quote is fucking absurd, but the crowd she's panhandling to doesn't know any better. Vitamins iz wytt peepull shieet.

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Rolling around town drinking champagne bought with her daughters donation money, classy.
 
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