Doctors in Denmark want to stop circumcision for under-18s - 'It is most consistent with the individual’s right to self-determination that parents not be allowed

Boys should not be circumcised until they are old enough to choose for themselves, doctors in Denmark have said.

The Danish Medical Association said it had considered suggesting a legal ban on the procedure for children under the age of 18, because it believed circumcision should be “an informed, personal choice” that young men make for themselves.

When parents have their sons circumcised, it robs boys of the ability to make decisions about their own bodies, and choose their cultural and religious beliefs for themselves, the organisation said.

Lise Møller, chair of the Doctors' Association Ethics Board, said it was wrong to deny an individual the right to choose whether or not they wanted to be circumcised.

“To be circumcised should be an informed, personal choice," she said.

"It is most consistent with the individual’s right to self-determination that parents not be allowed to make this decision, but that it is left up to the individual when he has come of age."

The organisation said that because male circumcision is not without risk it should only be performed on children when there is a documented medical need.

The doctors stopped short of calling for an all-out legal ban on the procedure, which is currently allowed but remains relatively rare in Denmark, because it said the move could have too many negative consequences.





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“We have discussed it thoroughly, also in our ethics committee," Ms Møller said. "We came to the conclusion that it is difficult to predict the consequences of a ban – both for the involved boys, who could for example face bullying or unauthorised procedures with complications – and for the cultural and religious groups they belong to."

The Danish Health and Medicines Authority estimates that somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 circumcisions are performed in Denmark each year, primarily on Jewish and Muslim boys.

The majority of those procedures occur outside of the public health system and are done as part of a religious ceremony in the child's home, or in a private clinic.

The Danish Health Ministry announced on Monday that beginning in 2017 all circumcisions, regardless of where they take place, will have to be reported to Denmark's national patient registry.

According to a major 2007 study by the World Health Organization, roughly 30 per cent of the global male population is circumcised.

Past polls have shown that upwards of 87 per cent of Danes support banning the practice on boys under the age of 18, the Local reported.

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[Ginger Piglet]

About bloody time. Absent a valid medical reason anything like that should wait until they're old enough to consent to it.

 

[Computery Guy]

"My son is uncircumcised!" will be the new "My son is gay!"

I feel the kind of parent that allows others to cut their newborn's genitalia would be the one that pressures him into doing it anyway once he's 18, lest he goes to live somewhere else

Are you actually suggesting that uncircumcized men will some day face the same sort of stigma from their parents that homosexual men still face?

Like, for real? Honest?

 

[Mysterious Capitalist]

Are you actually suggesting that uncircumcized men will some day face the same sort of stigma from their parents that homosexual men still face?

Like, for real? Honest?

I was being facetious, but you're free to believe it, if you want.

 

[Computery Guy]

I was being facetious, but you're free to believe it, if you want.

Oh, okay, I'm just stupid. My bad.

 

[DonaldChump]

Who the fuck would choose that lol

It does make your dick easier to clean, I guess. I mean if you told me it taking away inches, Id be more anti circumcision, haha.

I'm kind of for this, I kind of wish I wasnt, but I didnt think it ruined my life.

But I'm with you once youre 18 youre never going to willingly choose it.

Good.

There is that medical condition, but it is rare, and even when it happens, it usually happens when hygene is not adequate.
The chances of that happening are very low. If you choose to let your kid be natural, when he grows up he will be spared from lots of chafing and dryness that is pretty uncomfortable.

Dude it's gonna get dry when he's washing it anyway, it's a matter of soap drying out the skin -- youre gonna get like dead skin and shit in there, you have to peel it back to clean it anyway, it's still gonna get dry. You dont use lotion when you get out of the shower? Maybe Im gay.

The sex thing Im kinda torn on. On paper I feel like, more sensation is just gonna make sex go quicker, I mean you already feel sensation, it's not like sex is ruined, which is the argument. Women say some men are too quick anyway, or at least that's the joke. But how much of a difference could it really make? I cant really comprehend the difference in sensation and how it might feel - only "more" not different. But on the other Ive always been kinda jealous of like what women experience with sex, different sensations and shit; men's orgasm is like half a second and kinda sucks so when I hear women talking about their sexuality and all the different sensations, that their orgasms are a little longer or they have different types, I wonder if Im like missing out? I wonder what they're feeling, experiencing and how theyre feeling and shit.

 

[RG 448]

It does make your dick easier to clean, I guess.

>implying i clean it at all

 

[CWCchange]

It does make your dick easier to clean, I guess. I mean if you told me it taking away inches, Id be more anti circumcision, haha.

Unless you shave every hair off your body and cut down your nails, cleanliness is not really an argument, especially in a world of soap and abundant water. Why do you think the practice originated in nigger Africa? Also, cocks like most parts of the human body, have a self-regulating function to keep it healthy, which is basically removed cutting off foreskin and exposing the glans to elements.

 

[Transvaalan]

Don't boys who don't get the snip sometimes have problems with the skin not retracting or something? I think I read that in some parenting blog somewhere when I was linksurfing, but I can't recall where. It was sort of squicky because they were like, mums could prevent it by bending the skin back a few times a day when changing diapers. ;__; I think snipping them is a good idea if the alternative REALLY IS having to mess with that. Any mums of uncut boys knew if that's true?

Spoiler

I hate having to discuss this, but I'm curious if I ever have a kid.

Yeah, by just properly cleaning their children. And teaching their sons to pull back while taking a piss. And to wash their dicks.

Just wash yourself bruh.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

I don't understand why people dock a dog's tail, and I don't understand why people dock dicks either. Neither one serves any purpose.

 

[Lackadaisy]

But if you a preforming circumcision the metzitzah b'peh way, which involves sucking the blood from the wound, the risk increases dramatically. 13 cases of herpes broke out in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in NYC a couple years ago.

All Orthodox Jews are lolcows, mate.

 

[Male Idiot]

It does make your dick easier to clean, I guess. I mean if you told me it taking away inches, Id be more anti circumcision, haha.

I'm kind of for this, I kind of wish I wasnt, but I didnt think it ruined my life.

But I'm with you once youre 18 youre never going to willingly choose it.


Dude it's gonna get dry when he's washing it anyway, it's a matter of soap drying out the skin -- youre gonna get like dead skin and shit in there, you have to peel it back to clean it anyway, it's still gonna get dry. You dont use lotion when you get out of the shower? Maybe Im gay.

The sex thing Im kinda torn on. On paper I feel like, more sensation is just gonna make sex go quicker, I mean you already feel sensation, it's not like sex is ruined, which is the argument. Women say some men are too quick anyway, or at least that's the joke. But how much of a difference could it really make? I cant really comprehend the difference in sensation and how it might feel - only "more" not different. But on the other Ive always been kinda jealous of like what women experience with sex, different sensations and shit; men's orgasm is like half a second and kinda sucks so when I hear women talking about their sexuality and all the different sensations, that their orgasms are a little longer or they have different types, I wonder if Im like missing out? I wonder what they're feeling, experiencing and how theyre feeling and shit.

It will get very dry without it. A lifetime of this may desensitize you, but it is still there. It protects from chafing. Again not a problem if you wear arab robes, but if you are into tight pants...

If you don't want that part of you to be sensitive that is fine, but forcing that on a newborn is unethical.

 

[DonaldChump]

It will get very dry without it. A lifetime of this may desensitize you, but it is still there. It protects from chafing. Again not a problem if you wear arab robes, but if you are into tight pants...

If you don't want that part of you to be sensitive that is fine, but forcing that on a newborn is unethical.

Yeah, I just cant comprehend any other way because Ive not known anything else.


But Im used to 'male privilege' so I cant be like, "reeeeeeeee", you know what I mean? You cant really speak up because at best only other men care and men dont really care about each other. Another thing Im a little bit jealous of is the camaraderie feminism has given women. Like I said, I wonder what they feel. I wonder what else it could be like.

 

[Male Idiot]

Yeah, I just cant comprehend any other way because Ive not known anything else.


But Im used to 'male privilege' so I cant be like, "reeeeeeeee", you know what I mean? You cant really speak up because at best only other men care and men dont really care about each other. Another thing Im a little bit jealous of is the camaraderie feminism has given women. Like I said, I wonder what they feel. I wonder what else it could be like.

You just need to be gay if you want to feel like a woman!

But if you want to know feminist emotions: Jealousy at hot women, deep seated resentment and bitterness are all yours. Not sure why you would want it... Camaraderie in self made misery still has misery.

Just because your society is too cucked does not mean that its all right.