Is peace really a lie?

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With all the terror attacks lately, and how there have been more war than peace throughout our history, I'm thinking that peace is a lie, and that there is only passion. Specifically, people who will follow their passion to gain strength, and from strength, gain more power to achieve victory.

What do you think? Do you agree with the statement that "peace is a lie, there is only passion"?
 
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With all the terror attacks lately, and how there have been more war than peace throughout our history, I'm thinking that peace is a lie, and that there is only passion. Specifically, people who will follow their passion to gain strength, and from strength, gain more power to achieve victory.

What do you think? Do you agree with the statement that "peace is a lie, there is only passion"?
Peace is a lie. There is only Passion.
Through Passion I gain Strength.
Through Strength I gain Power.
Through Power I gain Victory.
Through Victory my chains are Broken.

Reminder the Sith "code" is dumb anime garbage made up thirty years after the fact by people with no connection to anyone who actually participated in making Star Wars.
 
No. I think peace and 'Peace' are different things.
Peace is, in my eyes, peace at its most basic form. A quiet moment here, a good night's rest there, a lazy Sunday afternoon. On the world scale, your country not being in any political shake-up or conflict.
'Peace' is the state of non-conflict, by which I mean, where nobody wants or will cause a dispute, worldwide. I think world peace in that sense, that's a lie because people are people and conflict is how new ideas are birthed.
Peace, though - or a worldwide state of 'not much is going on, let's all breathe' - is by no means a lie. I mean, I'm experiencing peace right now, sat on my bed. I imagine my siblings are, my friends are, and many people across the world are. You probably are, too, unless you're doing something right now.
 
Humans have basically been a consistent state of war ever since two apes realized they could hit each other with sticks.

Not all humans all the time. Many nations experience large periods of calm stability. But by and large the urge to attack someone you don't like is pretty overpowering in our species.
 
Peace is chill. Then the mongols come...

This.

Peace is only really possible when every human can trust every other human. Which is something that's technically possible, sorta, but not practically possible in any way that's relevant. As long as there's even the possibility of violence, there's also going to be pre-emptive violence to stop it before it starts.

Honestly for the majority of my life, I believed that a truly peaceful society was a reachable goal, even if it would be a rocky road getting there. Having kids made me change my mind, not just because they clearly are compelled to hit each other for dumb reasons. I mean that's part of it. But the larger reason is because for the first time in my life, I have stray violent thoughts about defending them from strangers. I've never had violence in my heart, and I've never really had much paranoia or assumed I was going to be randomly assaulted at, like, the grocery store. But now having kids, every time I see someone even remotely shifty who sets off my "Possible Abductor" alarm it results in me debating whether I'm strong enough to jump on top of them and start gnawing on their face to protect my children.

How we act in a personal capacity is always going to be reflected in how we act nationally. Our leaders aren't infallible geniuses, they're just humans we decided to toss the keys for the country to. Unfortunately violence is just something that's inherent in our nature. Maybe, over time, (like MILLENNIA, not a couple of decades) our compulsions for killing each other for power and our counter-compulsion to kill each other for security will fade away. But our urges are still tied too closely to the caves we crawled out of for wide-scale peace to be a lasting thing.

It's still something to strive for though. Even if you can't ever be perfect, you should still always be trying to be better.
 
The thing is, not one society is ever happy and will always be looking for a new wrong to right. Just when you think there are no villians, people will create one just to have a conflict or (more likely) as a subconscious scapegoat for why their life isn't as good as they want it to be. There will always be rich and poor; there will always be different skin colors and religions; and each of these things can be villified if some group is not happy about them or think they deserve what the other has.
 
Everybody just seems wants to impress somebody to fuck so peace is impossible.
 
There can't ever be total peace, but having more peace than we have now is the desirable state for us all. And there are ways of brokering that with other nations, and that has worked for a long time. But now with the asymmetrical warfare and the terror groups it's much harder to get.

Particularly if you go with the "biggest stick" method of keeping things orderly. Terror cells are like a hydra in that you get rid of or neuter one of them and then 2 more pop up to take it's place, usually founded by the guys that we didn't imprison or kill.
 
(((JEDI)))

-Make giant Godzilla lizards because 'lol, why not?'
-Abduct your kids so they can raise them in their cult
-Cultivate the lie of "that was the Sith!" when Sith are in fact, Jedi.
-Are all dead now because they tried to kill our Emperor and overthrow our Republic.
-Preach morality and kill people with horrific weapons.

Exterminate every one of these vermin in the name of the First Order.
 
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Peace is only possible in theory, like a lot of things. It means different things to different people so peace, at least by the broad dictionary definition, really isn't something society can agree on how to get there. For one person, peace might mean no more war or violence, ever again, while another person's peace might mean don't sell destructive goods like tobacco, drugs and alcohol that create wars and ruin lives. For the person who sells that stuff, to the drug dealer, the ceo down to the cashier at a lotto booth or a liquor store, that means a job. That means money, so if peace for the greater good conflicts with money and the means to live, people aren't gonna go for it. Some people might also think the pursuit of peace contradicts the idea of freewill and the freedom to choose.

Where does peace begin and end and how do you define it in the real world? Someone might think peace is simply minding your own business and finding a better way to resolve a problem, while someone else might think peace means god, religion, or holding hands and singing harmonious songs in a circle. Where is the idea of peace separated from debate or arguing, what if a country fires a missile, what if peace means you must surrender your weapons, whatever weapons you might have for the greater good. It's an interesting question because everyone's vision of peace and how to acheive it, while kind of the same, is different. Because everyone's idea on what worldwide peace means to them, and how to get it, might conflict with someone else's, it's probably not realistic. It's not a lie, it's just not realistic.
 
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I don't think world peace will ever be possible because there will always be too many ambitious people who will want to seize power from someone else. The only kind of peace I really believe in is the kind you can find within yourself and pass on to others.
 
there will never be total peace, but there can be stability, which is really what people mean by "peace". the problem with today is not the lack of peacefulness (every generation and people has experienced some form of what we are), but instability from the inside.
 
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