Cultcow Russell Greer / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[ln18]

Still no facebook activity. Looks like Judge Smackdown put the fears into him. Are we taking bets on how long he is back with a sob story about how the SLC small claims court discriminates against the disabled?

If not that then it will be about something else. Russ is not going to be radio silent for long.

 

[Doctor Krieger]

Still no facebook activity. Looks like Judge Smackdown put the fears into him. Are we taking bets on how long he is back with a sob story about how the SLC small claims court discriminates against the disabled?

I'll give him 3 days

 

[theriddler3]

I'll give him 3 days

I wouldn't be surprised if he's trying a new platform like he claimed he was going to after one of his other rage quits. He'll be back, as always, though. Facebook is where he has his coveted 1,000 followers.

I'm actually quite surprised he isn't involved in some sort of disability group on tumblr. I went to college with some assholes who would use their "disabilities" to get whatever they wanted within their "disabled" social groups, then post about how it still wasn't enough on tumblr.

Hell, he could start "This Is Functional Facial Muscles Privilege", then just post a bunch of insta 9s and 10s ignoring him. I bet it'd pick up some traffic, not just from Kiwi.

Believe me it's my pleasure. It's only 10 bucks. Best 10 bucks I'll ever spend. These tapes will bring me so much entertainment.

But that's a whole Starbucks giftcard to an insta 9 or 10. Are you sure you can spare that much money??

 

[Silvana]

Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of praise - thank you so much, @sharshorita , for bringing back such a detailed account. How on earth did you do it, though? Were you taking shorthand notes, or what? I should have trouble remembering a fraction of what you were able to recall! Anyway, right now, I'm sitting here filled with the warm glow of satisfaction that comes from seeing an arrogant, self-entitled asshole - one who expects the whole world to pander to their selfish desires - feel the consequences of their actions for a change. $1500! That's a lot of Costco muffins. That, or else there's a Grammy award-winning producer out there who'll be feeling the pinch as they lose the patronage of one of their most loyal customers...

 

[kcbbq]

I cannot wait for the next season to get here. Imagine how his ego will look after the other lawsuit turns out the only way it can.

 

[strandedcastaway]

It seems like the judge went out of his way to try to discourage future lolsuits, hopefully his efforts will have been in vain because this shit is too funny (and I also think that his fixation on a legal recourse when he gets mad keeps him from really hurting people).

Judge was very patient, but he was also enjoying messing with Russ while trying to pound a lesson into his head not to waste any court's time with this shit in the future.

 

[FUNKMASTERMCFLASH]

Judge was very patient, but he was also enjoying messing with Russ while trying to pound a lesson into his head not to waste any court's time with this shit in the future.

I thought he took it pretty easy on him to be honest. With all of the shit Russ has been saying about this case online, I'd think the judge could've hit him far harder than a measly $1500.

 

[peep_show]

As much as I joined Kiwi to get a better seat on The Russ crazy train I also figured I may be able to give insight into some of Russell's experiences wrt sex workers as I have worked on and off in the industry for quite a few years now.

Yes, I know about the whole :powerlevel:power level:powerlevel: stuff - don't reveal personal deets because A) no one cares anyway and B) crazy people may use it against you etc- but I'm out about my job IRL and I've noticed people wondering about how the girls would view Mr Smooth, with his ill fitting suit and ridiculous demeanor (demeanher? demeanwhore? boom tish), so I figured why not...

Admittedly I'm not from the States but, IME, people who work the same types of jobs are going to have some very similar experiences overall and I doubt that the way we view clients is particularly different to the way American sex workers view their clients, especially as the cultural divide isn't that significant between our countries.
And I'm sure there are certain things all working girls have dealt with at some point along the way :horrifying:

Anyway, since I saw quite a bit of speculation throughout the thread about how a sex worker might really react, I'm happy to give Brussel Sprout's spittle stories a breakdown from a brothel workers perspective, if anyone is curious that is.
I wonder how many of his tales of paid sexual escapades are even feasible looking at them from the POV of someone who works in the industry. Then again, when aren't his stories exaggerated &/or imagined...how pathetic that he has to live his whole life in a delusional bubble of self importance.

He really does make my skin crawl.

(cue the numerous :powerlevel::powerlevel::powerlevel::autism::autism::autism::horrifying::horrifying::horrifying

 

[BF 388]

I wonder what Greg Skordas will do with his $1,500

Quick session at Hofs bunny ranch

 

[Brownies_1234]

As much as I joined Kiwi to get a better seat on The Russ crazy train I also figured I may be able to give insight into some of Russell's experiences wrt sex workers as I have worked on and off in the industry for quite a few years now.

Yes, I know about the whole :powerlevel:power level:powerlevel: stuff - don't reveal personal deets because A) no one cares anyway and B) crazy people may use it against you etc- but I'm out about my job IRL and I've noticed people wondering about how the girls would view Mr Smooth, with his ill fitting suit and ridiculous demeanor (demeanher? demeanwhore? boom tish), so I figured why not...

Admittedly I'm not from the States but, IME, people who work the same types of jobs are going to have some very similar experiences overall and I doubt that the way we view clients is particularly different to the way American sex workers view their clients, especially as the cultural divide isn't that significant between our countries.
And I'm sure there are certain things all working girls have dealt with at some point along the way :horrifying:

Anyway, since I saw quite a bit of speculation throughout the thread about how a sex worker might really react, I'm happy to give Brussel Sprout's spittle stories a breakdown from a brothel workers perspective, if anyone is curious that is.
I wonder how many of his tales of paid sexual escapades are even feasible looking at them from the POV of someone who works in the industry. Then again, when aren't his stories exaggerated &/or imagined...how pathetic that he has to live his whole life in a delusional bubble of self importance.

He really does make my skin crawl.

(cue the numerous :powerlevel::powerlevel::powerlevel::autism::autism::autism::horrifying::horrifying::horrifying

Do you think sex workers would turn him down solely based on his facial paralysis like he claimed or do you think it is because of his personality and creepiness? I can see one or two sex workers turning him down because of his facial paralysis, but I don't see as many as he claims turning him down because there are men with much worse disabilities that regularly see sex workers. Do you have any insight into that?

 

[DuckSucker]

As much as I joined Kiwi to get a better seat on The Russ crazy train I also figured I may be able to give insight into some of Russell's experiences wrt sex workers as I have worked on and off in the industry for quite a few years now.

Yes, I know about the whole :powerlevel:power level:powerlevel: stuff - don't reveal personal deets because A) no one cares anyway and B) crazy people may use it against you etc- but I'm out about my job IRL and I've noticed people wondering about how the girls would view Mr Smooth, with his ill fitting suit and ridiculous demeanor (demeanher? demeanwhore? boom tish), so I figured why not...

Admittedly I'm not from the States but, IME, people who work the same types of jobs are going to have some very similar experiences overall and I doubt that the way we view clients is particularly different to the way American sex workers view their clients, especially as the cultural divide isn't that significant between our countries.
And I'm sure there are certain things all working girls have dealt with at some point along the way :horrifying:

Anyway, since I saw quite a bit of speculation throughout the thread about how a sex worker might really react, I'm happy to give Brussel Sprout's spittle stories a breakdown from a brothel workers perspective, if anyone is curious that is.
I wonder how many of his tales of paid sexual escapades are even feasible looking at them from the POV of someone who works in the industry. Then again, when aren't his stories exaggerated &/or imagined...how pathetic that he has to live his whole life in a delusional bubble of self importance.

He really does make my skin crawl.

(cue the numerous :powerlevel::powerlevel::powerlevel::autism::autism::autism::horrifying::horrifying::horrifying

I always figured sex workers at the best of times either dont care about the client, just want to get it over with, or view it as any other job where you have to occasionally deal with creeps. I imagine some dudes, particularly pathetic ones, might use escorts as a form of therapy because theyre socially isolated with no friends or emotional support and youre allowed to be physically intimate with a sex worker as well as emotionally, but pouring your heart out to a sex worker who doesnt really care seems really sad and pathetic. At best theyll get annoyed of the whining and weakness. I imagine he spent thats how he spent that 4000 and didnt get laid -- he was too busy bitching.


Yeah im kind of interested in how sex workers view these guys. A lot of women do it and are more open minded, Ive known a few girls that have been open about being strippers but mostly just would unwind tales of being annoyed, having bad days, same as you would any other job.

 

[RussMeDaddy]

@peep_show Please feel free to share. We have a bunch of legal spergs, disabled folks, and Mormons/ex-Mormons in here trying to offer context for Wussell's spazzing out, so getting the hooker perspective would be good.

I would guess once they knew that he wasn't slow the face thing wouldn't be an issue but would his shitty hygiene be a problem? Or maybe his overall psycho vibe? I would guess working girls learn that the gut doesn't lie and Russ is a fucking five alarm fire.

Edit- I can kinda answer the question about whether or not sex workers would be bothered about disabled people, though I've never used a prostitute just a couple of trips to the strip club in college. Short answer, if your money is green and you're not a psycho, they don't care. I'm personally uncomfortable with the idea that they're performing a public service by catering to a lowly cripple but some girls have that mindset and a lot of the disabled patrons probably need it like that. Honestly I think most disabled patrons want to be treated like everyone else that goes to the strip club, see some tits, have a watered down drink, maybe get a dance. Easy. Once the girls pick up on that, they become just like everyone else...so exactly what Russ fears.

 

[CupONavy]

Do you think sex workers would turn him down solely based on his facial paralysis like he claimed or do you think it is because of his personality and creepiness? I can see one or two sex workers turning him down because of his facial paralysis, but I don't see as many as he claims turning him down because there are men with much worse disabilities that regularly see sex workers. Do you have any insight into that?

I'm sure @peep_show will opine, but I think a resonable person would figure that sex workers, many being reasonable folks themselves, would see "working with" the disabled, disfigured or ugly as part of the job... providing a needed service.. as long as those folks aren't assholes. You know, just like any job. Nurses deliver babies, but they also clean shit off old men. Most jobs have their glamorous and un-glamorous sides and it's all part and parcel.

I'm saying this because IMHO the fact that Russ "engages prostitutes" doesn't make him a bad person. My experience with "sex workers" is limited to bachelor parties, but I think in the US at least there's an undue stigma on the profession itself.

That stigma shouldn't mask the fact that Russ is a grade-A prick who exemplifies the classic "nice guy" - thinking women are all utilities and service providers and nothing more, and that they owe him unrestricted access and relationship-like intimacy for the most mundane of gestures.

 

[AnOminous]

Still no facebook activity. Looks like Judge Smackdown put the fears into him. Are we taking bets on how long he is back with a sob story about how the SLC small claims court discriminates against the disabled?

He'll probably come up with some bullshit about how having to be on time is discriminatory because of his tard brains.

I'm saying this because IMHO the fact that Russ "engages prostitutes" doesn't make him a bad person. My experience with "sex workers" is limited to bachelor parties, but I think in the US at least there's an undue stigma on the profession itself.

My problem with him has nothing to do with hiring prostitutes, but that he's a complete prick to them when he does.

Do you think sex workers would turn him down solely based on his facial paralysis like he claimed or do you think it is because of his personality and creepiness? I can see one or two sex workers turning him down because of his facial paralysis, but I don't see as many as he claims turning him down because there are men with much worse disabilities that regularly see sex workers. Do you have any insight into that?

This is from his own weird tales, but apparently, he pays top dollar for a GFE type deal but then takes them out to places and acts like he's in a relationship, but for real and not pretend, and then doesn't bang them when he should have, then he throws a tantrum when he runs down the clock and they're like okay time's up, see ya.

I thought he took it pretty easy on him to be honest. With all of the shit Russ has been saying about this case online, I'd think the judge could've hit him far harder than a measly $1500.

It was Skordas who limited that. That wasn't a fine. It was assigning the defendant's attorney fees to the plaintiff because the lawsuit was patently bogus. Skordas had capped his fees at $2,500 and said he hadn't reached that, so the judge just set it at $1,500.

One major difference between the U.S. and other Western countries, particularly European countries, is that in Europe, the loser generally pays for the winner's fees. In the U.S., the general rule is that each side pays their own attorney, win or lose.

If you end up paying the other side's attorney fees, it's the judge saying you basically wasted everyone's time and money and should have to make good on that. This is different than merely losing. It means you lost, plus you're an asshole.

 

[advocate]

Still no facebook activity. Looks like Judge Smackdown put the fears into him. Are we taking bets on how long he is back with a sob story about how the SLC small claims court discriminates against the disabled?

He's disappeared for as long as a month before.

 

[kcbbq]

He'll probably come up with some bullshit about how having to be on time is discriminatory because of his tard brains.



My problem with him has nothing to do with hiring prostitutes, but that he's a complete prick to them when he does.



This is from his own weird tales, but apparently, he pays top dollar for a GFE type deal but then takes them out to places and acts like he's in a relationship, but for real and not pretend, and then doesn't bang them when he should have, then he throws a tantrum when he runs down the clock and they're like okay time's up, see ya.



It was Skordas who limited that. That wasn't a fine. It was assigning the defendant's attorney fees to the defendant because the lawsuit was patently bogus. Skordas had capped his fees at $2,500 and said he hadn't reached that, so the judge just set it at $1,500.

One major difference between the U.S. and other Western countries, particularly European countries, is that in Europe, the loser generally pays for the winner's fees. In the U.S., the general rule is that each side pays their own attorney, win or lose.

If you end up paying the other side's attorney fees, it's the judge saying you basically wasted everyone's time and money and should have to make good on that. This is different than merely losing. It means you lost, plus you're an asshole.

The thing is, you shouldn't be penalized for bringing a reasonable lawsuit if you lose. You should only be penalized if you are being malicious. Loser always pays is bad because people are pretty likely to be bullied away from legitimate justice.

 

[rankmelon]

Although it's 4 days ago now, he still somehow seems to think she may be considering it..

(edited spacing since initially done on phone)

 

[peep_show]

Do you think sex workers would turn him down solely based on his facial paralysis like he claimed or do you think it is because of his personality and creepiness? I can see one or two sex workers turning him down because of his facial paralysis, but I don't see as many as he claims turning him down because there are men with much worse disabilities that regularly see sex workers. Do you have any insight into that?

The vast majority of girls wouldn't have an issue with seeing someone who has some sort of physical disability unless it's a profound disability in which case there's usually one or two girls who have experience with people who are in wheelchairs and so on- from what I've seen the person's carer will bring them in and help the girl get everything sorted and I think it's great that people who might otherwise struggle to obtain any intimacy can access it through us.

It's actually age &/or obesity that are the main reasons girls won't intro- older women feel uncomfortable with the young clients and younger girls feel weird with someone who could be their dad or grandad.
Other working girls won't see anyone from their own ethnicity because it can be a small world and a lot of communities are very conservative. Unfortunately there is a lot of racism, so some girls won't see certain guys bc of that.

In addition we are under no obligation to even do the introduction (we have monitors in our area to assess the client in case we know them etc), we aren't obligated to accept a booking and we can stop the booking at anytime, so if someone started being creepy in the room the girl can just excuse herself and tell reception that she can't complete the booking. When that happens the client just gets his $ back unless they had already started, in which case he may get a partial refund or none at all- arseholes usually get no refund and a ban.

WRT hygiene;
if we do take the booking then we do a quick "health check" to make sure there's no obvious lesions or discharge (the most awkward part of the booking tbh, like hi! I'm staring at your dick!).
If that's all fine the client must have a shower (I also insist on mouthwash regardless of if there's kissing), and we always engage in safe sex- it's against the law not to use condoms and it's classed as sexual assault if the man removes the condom during the service.
Plus fucking eeeewwwww at not using a condom anyway, blergh.

Someone like our Russ would probably get a booking but I very much doubt if he'd ever be seen by the same girl again and word gets around pretty quickly. The receptionist (they're like a house mother, I guess) will even let us know if other girls have had an issue with that client so we can decide whether to even go out and say hello. And guys don't need to do much to get banned outright, so that's always good to know.

Honestly, if no one was prepared to see him it wouldn't be down to his facial paralysis, it would be down to his creepy as fuck vibe and general revolting-ness.

 

[Cripple]

View attachment 257655 Although it's 4 days ago now, he still somehow seems to think she may be considering it..

He's learned nothing. A cow to the end.

And @peep_show I'm okay with sex worker sperging. Russholio's misogyny is probably my biggest dislike of this cow and like many misogynists he seems to view sex workers as particular targets.

How much do managers/business owners protect workers against serial offenders like Russhole? Like how bad does it have to get before a client is banned like Russ was from the majority of Nevada brothels?

Also Russ wants to open a legal brothel in Utah. Would anyone work for him or is background checking standard in sex work?

 

[Lunachu]

You just know that, if by some miracle Russ managed to open a brothel, he would be expecting free samples.