Cloudflare drops Cody Wilson (Hatreon / GhostGunner) as client

So during the Daily Stormer thing I was willing to accept that if they had started openly associating Cloudflare as "secret nazis" sympathetic towards their message, they had valid cause to drop them. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Hatreon did no such thing. GhostGunner did no such thing. Cloudflare's decision to remove them is entirely political and completely unbelievable and disgusting.

This indicates the dam has broken. Cloudflare is compromised. They are as bad as the rest now.

https://twitter.com/Radomysisky/status/898582036579049474

 

[HG 400]

The weirdest thing is the CEO isn't even doing the basic, established mental gymnastics to justify it. He's just like "oh yeah this is awful and ruining free speech and nobody should ever do this but I'm in a bad mood so lol".

 

[Null]

The weirdest thing is the CEO isn't even doing the basic, established mental gymnastics to justify it. He's just like "oh yeah this is awful and ruining free speech and nobody should ever do this but I'm in a bad mood so lol".

Well that to me was almost applaudable. He admits he did not want that much control over a person's ability to use the Internet, he said it scared him and made him have complicated feelings towards what he just did, but apparently his takeaway was to just start doing it all the fucking time for no goddamn reason. What the fuck man.

 

[invalid]

So how long til this becomes a "nazi hate site" and the containment system gets shuts down by the EPA, will autism explode into normie internet?

 

[HG 400]

Well that to me was almost applaudable. He admits he did not want that much control over a person's ability to use the Internet, he said it scared him and made him have complicated feelings towards what he just did, but apparently his takeaway was to just start doing it all the fucking time for no goddamn reason. What the fuck man.

It's applaudable up until the part where he's like "lol so i did it anyway"

 

[Lurker]

what would have been applaudable is for Cloudflare's CEO to go "lol your hurt feelings are not my problem and as long as no one is breaking any laws i don't give a shit what you do"

fucking sick of this shit. this is why social justice and political correctness have such a negative connotation. these concepts can exist, but they've been taken to draconian levels to erase any wrongthink.

 

[MrLobe]

Hmm, so all the media companies and CEO's are now pushing to dictate what is and isn't acceptable speech using extremely narrow guidelines. Could it be? Could /pol/ be right again!?

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Hmm, so all the media companies and CEO's are now pushing to dictate what is and isn't acceptable speech using extremely narrow guidelines. Could it be? Could /pol/ be right again!?

/pol/ and the Farms are our only hope against the Trooncast.

 

[King Kong... with wings?]

Hatreon is the right wing echo chamber much like tumblr is for SJWs. By allowing hatreon to exist there is a chance for even more members of the alt-right (who should now be labelled as domestic terrorists for their violent behavior) to get the motivation to commit violent acts. Free speech is being stretched to the limit and stuff like this is a consequence of acting out.

what would have been applaudable is for Cloudflare's CEO to go "lol your hurt feelings are not my problem and as long as no one is breaking any laws i don't give a shit what you do"

Cloudflare's CEO spoke like that with their actions. Because the Alt-right has committed violence and people are now demanding this be treated like a terrorist incident, Cloudflare had to take action

 

[vertexwindi]

Well.

This is certainly scary for what it'll mean for the internet going forward.

 

[Sergeant Politeness]

Hatreon is the right wing echo chamber much like tumblr is for SJWs. By allowing hatreon to exist there is a chance for even more members of the alt-right (who should now be labelled as domestic terrorists for their violent behavior) to get the motivation to commit violent acts. Free speech is being stretched to the limit and stuff like this is a consequence of acting out.

How the fuck can a crowdfunding site encourage violent behavior?

 

[AnOminous]

I find it somewhat hard to be all that sympathetic to these pussies who dumped us before Clownflare dumped them.

It's not a good sign, but fuck these pussies.

 

[Jaiman]

It's possible that Cody Wilson's support of the Charlottesville rally played a big role in this action. The Daily Stormer was only dropped after their article on the woman who was run over in Charlottsville.

 

[Crisseh]

autistic screeching

So we silence people we don't agree with now? That's a very slippery slope.

Some autistic professional victims believe this place to be a right wing hate spewing echo chamber. Which we clearly aren't. Does that mean under your mental gymnastics we should suddenly be kicked off?

Just because you silence them, doesn't mean they are going away. They will continue their nefarious deeds regardless. And this time with more moral outrage.

 

[King Kong... with wings?]

It's possible that Cody Wilson's support of the Charlottesville rally played a big role in this action. The Daily Stormer was only dropped after their article on the woman who was run over in Charlottsville.
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I was thinking the same thing

 

[Ruin]

Hatreon is the right wing echo chamber much like tumblr is for SJWs. By allowing hatreon to exist there is a chance for even more members of the alt-right (who should now be labelled as domestic terrorists for their violent behavior) to get the motivation to commit violent acts. Free speech is being stretched to the limit and stuff like this is a consequence of acting out.



Cloudflare's CEO spoke like that with their actions. Because the Alt-right has committed violence and people are now demanding this be treated like a terrorist incident, Cloudflare had to take action

" Facism is good when it targets people I don't like."

Fixed your post for you.

 

[GS 281]

Wew you guys are sure mean to one another

 

[Dog Prom 3D]

You guys do realize you are getting upset at free speech that I said much like a liberal getting upset at something Trump or David Duke said.

There's nothing wrong with getting upset at something someone says. We all routinely get annoyed, pissed off, angry or sad in reaction to terrible, stupid or gross things that people say.

The problem comes when people use unpleasant feelings as a reason to silence any speech that they feel upsets them.

An even bigger problem comes when the government or special interest groups encourage corporations, which in many cases now have governmental powers of onsite search and seizure and as a whole the capacity to throttle free speech, to use the anticipation of fomenting violence as a reason to limit and destroy free speech.

Alt.right is a meaningless category in this regard because a knee-jerk liberal like me is now an alt.right for finding the limitation of free speech enforced by corporations anathema to the constitution. On the basis you lined out - alt.right did bad things so they need to have their speech limited - I need to be silenced as well because I'm encouraging violence by refusing to accept that using businesses to enforce freedom of speech limitations is a very bad idea.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Alt.right is a meaningless category in this regard because a knee-jerk liberal like me is now an alt.right for finding the limitation of free speech enforced by corporations anathema to the constitution. On the basis you lined out - alt.right did bad things so they need to have their speech limited - I need to be silenced as well because I'm encouraging violence by refusing to accept that using businesses to enforce freedom of speech limitations is a very bad idea.

One thing that gets glossed over way too consistently by those who support limiting the freedoms of [insert label] is that the definition of [insert label] is not defined concretely enough at best and at worst it often is "anything that hurts my feelings".

I don't like nazis either. But when the ACLU or anyone else says we can't strip away the rights of nazis, we aren't actually defending nazis. We're defending the next group who will be targeted immediately after those doing the targeting think the nazis are defeated. Which more often than not includes many people who supported this gross attitude of overreaching in the first place. There are indeed many people who will accuse @Dog Prom 3D of "promoting violence" no different than nazis just because he values the constitution, I can't understand how those accusers are surprised at the idea that terrible labels can be just as capriciously expanded to condemn the kind of reasonable and well-meaning people that they so strongly know themselves to be.

 

[An Ghost]

I'm on vacation. If KF goes down while I'm away I'll be so mad at you Null.