Lolcow Andrew Peter Carlson / Anaiah Carlson / Tamarlover / Xtamarlover - Jewish/Christian Wannabe Cult Leader, Stalker, Ugly af, dogfucker, mayor of spitsville

[Anaiah Carlson]

Not really? We take each thing that you propose and evaluate them on an individual basis.

Selling your land? Good move!

Getting a job? Great work!

Using that money to go into stocks? Sure, why not.

Using that money to buy DNA tests? Odd, but is your money.

Using the money to pay off the speeding ticket of a woman with a restraining order on you? Literally why?

Telling other women who you may be interested in about your restraining order?

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I figure the fact is a woman has a right to know your legal history and it would be wrong to try to enter a relationship with them and only after being together saying oh by the way I was giving a restraining order because i wouldn't leave a woman alone. So i should tell a woman about it that I'm interested in even though I know it might make her more uneasy or unsure about if she can trust me. But she has the right to know and be fairly informed about my history.

As for paying for the speeding ticket of the woman with the restraining order against me, several reasons. One i like helping her and it lets me be a part of her life in a significant (for her) way. What is a small thing for me is likely a big influence in her life. Two it shows her I am willing to give her money and i'm not just talking but not doing. Now that i have a job and getting money and showing the proof of my financial devotion to her, she'll see i'm being serious about giving her money for another chance for friendship with her. She has three other tickets i'll be paying for next month as well. So in total, since the beginning of Summer onward, I will have paid about $500 for her legal tickets.

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

Sometimes I wish I was a girl just so I could have countless psychotic freaks trying to give me their first month's paycheck

Hey, check out the Vidar Viking thread. That psychotic freak throws hundreds of dollars a month at Darksyde Phil instead.

Now i do consider myself entitled to friendships if I put in effort and if I pay for someone's debt or help them in any significant way, they can't just end friendship over nothing. That would be immoral.

GAAAH. This is still gross and rapey. For a friendship to be meaningful, they have to be able to void consent to the friendship for any reason at any time. Otherwise you're buying slaves. There is no way around that. For you to be sure that they really want to be your friend -- which is what you want, right, not a hired escort service? -- there must be an alternate choice. If they don't freely choose you, and are only there because you tell them they're obligated, they have every right to fear and resent your presence.

Shit, maybe you'd understand it if we found an episode of My Little Pony explaining the concept.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Do you understand what the term "cognitive dissonance" means?

First you say you want to use money to win a woman's heart.

The next sentence you say you don't want women to use you for your money. You want them to be "genuinely" interested in you.

How much money have you given to Tamar? You know that she just used you for your money, you have no charm, and she left you when your money dried up?

Sometimes I wish I was a girl just so I could have countless psychotic freaks trying to give me their first month's paycheck after being unemployed for what, 5 years? Why were you unemployed for 5 years, if 5 years is all it takes to be a millionaire? You could be a millionaire right now if you started working fulltime 5 years ago. Why didn't you?

God you're dumb.

First of all, I didn't realize i could become a millionaire so easily. Its something i realized this year only. Secondly, i didn't work the last 5 years solely because I had no desire to work. I did not apply to any jobs anywhere and I just enjoyed life and relaxed. A stress free life for five years doing whatever i'd want. No debt. No obligations. Pretty luxurious way to live in my view. And I took advantage of it. but now i want money and realize i wont get it any other way. So i'm forced to work now to make my goals a reality. It was fun not working while it lasted. but that time is over now.

I never really had money to give Tamar, so she didn't use me for money. At best, she used me to help her with things she was unable to do due to limited internet connectivity. But my financial contribution to her prior to this year was essentially nonexistent

How many males at work have you asked about their debts? How many males at work have you considered paying off their debts?

You're a really bad liar. How many males at work have you talked to on Facebook?

I just thought the idea of possibly helping males at work today, but i haven't definitely thought i want to do that in any strong way. Whereas i have definitely thought about it in a strong way with helping her. She's the only person i've talked to that I'm definitely interested in establishing a friendship outside of work. I want to get to know her better first to see if she is someone worth pursuing romantically or not. So far, she is a nice person but she may be too incompatible with me. But i'm still testing it to see.

Hey, check out the Vidar Viking thread. That psychotic freak throws hundreds of dollars a month at Darksyde Phil instead.



GAAAH. This is still gross and rapey. For a friendship to be meaningful, they have to be able to void consent to the friendship for any reason at any time. Otherwise you're buying slaves. There is no way around that. For you to be sure that they really want to be your friend -- which is what you want, right, not a hired escort service? -- there must be an alternate choice. If they don't freely choose you, and are only there because you tell them they're obligated, they have every right to fear and resent your presence.

Shit, maybe you'd understand it if we found an episode of My Little Pony explaining the concept.

I only tell people they owe me their friendship if they friendship with me illegitimately. Otherwise, i don't bring up that concept with them.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

if they end* friendship i meant to say

 

[Shugo]

Whereas i have definitely thought about it in a strong way with helping her. She's the only person i've talked to that I'm definitely interested in establishing a friendship outside of work. I want to get to know her better first to see if she is someone worth pursuing romantically or not.

You're going to get fired from your job when she tells her boss you've been messaging her on facebook talking about the last girl you stalked until she had a restraining order put against you. Enjoy being unemployed for the next 5 years.

How long have you worked this "full time job?" A few days?

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Do you understand what the term "cognitive dissonance" means?

First you say you want to use money to win a woman's heart.

The next sentence you say you don't want women to use you for your money. You want them to be "genuinely" interested in you.

How much money have you given to Tamar? You know that she just used you for your money, you have no charm, and she left you when your money dried up?

Sometimes I wish I was a girl just so I could have countless psychotic freaks trying to give me their first month's paycheck after being unemployed for what, 5 years? Why were you unemployed for 5 years, if 5 years is all it takes to be a millionaire? You could be a millionaire right now if you started working fulltime 5 years ago. Why didn't you?

God you're dumb.

Its ok if I use money to win a woman's heart, but I don't want a woman to be interested in me only because I have money. the money as a means/tool is valid to use to win a woman's heart, but should not be the primary basis/substance of the end result. If all is said and done and she really don't care about me but only values me for money i give her, i dont want that. But if I can get someone to fall in love with me using money, then i will absolutely do that

You're going to get fired from your job when she tells her boss you've been messaging her on facebook talking about the last girl you stalked until she had a restraining order put against you. Enjoy being unemployed for the next 5 years.

How long have you worked this "full time job?" A few days?

I told the people at the job interview when they asked "do you have any convictions" i wrote down "I don't have any convictions as of yet" with the understanding that would cause them to pause and think what does he mean "as of yet". so the woman he interviewed me asked me what I mean by that. So i explained i got a protective order, and that there is a warrant for my arrest, but that it shouldn't be an issue. She said ok just let us know if that changes and there is a conviction. And she said are you comfortable explaining why you violated the protective order so I told the interviewer why i violated the protective order.

Hired the same day a few hours after the interviewer. So your scenario doesn't make sense in light of what was already mentioned by me to my employer. If the woman at work i am interested in is uncomfortable by things I say to her, she can tell me herself. She can stop sitting next to me at the table on her own volition when no one else is sitting there. She can stop lingering as if she was waiting for me.

I've worked there now for 7 days

 

[Shugo]

Its ok if I use money to win a woman's heart, but I don't want a woman to be interested in me only because I have money. the money as a means/tool is valid to use to win a woman's heart, but should not be the primary basis/substance of the end result. If all is said and done and she really don't care about me but only values me for money i give her, i dont want that. But if I can get someone to fall in love with me using money, then i will absolutely do that

I want you to do some research on "classical conditioning." If you give a woman money in exchange for personal attention, she will learn to give you personal attention when she wants more money.

It also means you're paying her to be in your company. She's basically a whore at that point, if a woman has a relationship with you after you gave her money. I'd call Tamar a whore if she started a friendship with you after you paid her speeding tickets.

I forget, do you have autism or something? You do not give a person money in exchange for friendship. That's reserved for whores. That is not how personal relationships work, romantic or not.

She has three other tickets i'll be paying for next month as well. So in total, since the beginning of Summer onward, I will have paid about $500 for her legal tickets.

How many fucking tickets does this idiot have? Why didn't she stop speeding after the first or second ticket? Are you paying for her legal fees that she took against Joshua Moon and this website?

I've worked there now for 7 days

Unemployed for 5 years, you've worked for 7 days and you're already fantasizing about being a millionaire.

Fun fact: you're not going to save your money if you pay $2,500 for your newest girlfriend's student loans debts, and $500 for Tamar's speeding tickets.

You literally have not collected your first paycheck and you already have decided to spend $3,000 on income you haven't even earned yet on other women's debts. You are a compulsive spender and you are going to be poor for the rest of your life.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

I want you to do some research on "classical conditioning." If you give a woman money in exchange for personal attention, she will learn to give you personal attention when she wants more money.

It also means you're paying her to be in your company. She's basically a whore at that point, if a woman has a relationship with you after you gave her money. I'd call Tamar a whore if she started a friendship with you after you paid her speeding tickets.

I forget, do you have autism or something? You do not give a person money in exchange for friendship. That's reserved for whores. That is not how personal relationships work, romantic or not.



How many fucking tickets does this idiot have? Why didn't she stop speeding after the first or second ticket? Are you paying for her legal fees that she took against Joshua Moon and this website?

She doesn't have legal fees to initiate lawsuits. only tickets. She got two speeding tickets, and she got two tickets for failure to show car registration card. and she also has a ticket for failure to show driver's license and a ticket for failure to have vehicle inspected. I was diagnosed with asperger syndrome, but I'm not convinced of the diagnosis. However I appeal to it to garner sympathy or as a justification for some of my actions when I think it will make me look better to other people.

Depends how you define a whore. If its done morally, its not wrong regardless of what you want to call it. And Tamar would agree with me.

 

[Ti-99/4A]

I was diagnosed with asperger syndrome, but I'm not convinced of the diagnosis.

I am. You should probably be on the since you seem to be unable to function in regular society compared to your peers.

 

[Shugo]

Depends how you define a whore. If its done morally, its not wrong regardless of what you want to call it. And Tamar would agree with me.

A whore is a woman who feigns affection for a man in exchange for money. Tamar has no affection for you. Tamar has tried to have the government arrest you and put you in jail.

If Tamar does show affection for you, it is because she wants you to pay her. I'm sure she would be morally fine with taking your money.

but I'm not convinced of the diagnosis. However I appeal to it to garner sympathy or as a justification for some of my actions

I'm not convinced of it either, this is more indicative of you being a manipulative sociopath. How does it feel, being such a lowly person your only excuse for your own actions is a diagnosis you in your heart don't even agree with? Why are you morally okay with lying to make yourself look better?

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

How many males at work have you asked about their debts? How many males at work have you considered paying off their debts?

You're a really bad liar. How many males at work have you talked to on Facebook?

i'm not a liar. why would i lie about that? I'm not afraid to make myself look foolish when I think i am in the right. i am proud of the things about me for the most part, so i have no reason to lie on something like that. I didn't think about any males in specific nor did I ask any about their debts. I simply had a thought enter my mind, saying to myself "hey you know it would be kind of neat if i helped pay money for some of my other male and female coworkers too if I ever became their friend". that was the extent of that, since i haven't yet established any friendships with any other co workers and i wouldn't ask them about their debts without first having established i wanted to become their friend and getting to know them a little.

 

[Shugo]

i'm not a liar. why would i lie about that? I'm not afraid to make myself look foolish when I think i am in the right.

Do you think you have aspergers?

You said you didn't agree with the diagnosis. Why would you tell people that you have Aspergers if you don't believe it? When you disclose as an excuse for your shitty actions "I'm diagnosed with Aspergers," do you also disclose that you don't agree with the diagnosis? Telling someone you're diagnosed with Aspergers, but then refusing to tell them you disagree with the diagnosis is misleading that person into thinking you legitimately have Aspergers when you yourself disagree with that assessment.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

A whore is a woman who feigns affection for a man in exchange for money. Tamar has no affection for you. Tamar has tried to have the government arrest you and put you in jail.

If Tamar does show affection for you, it is because she wants you to pay her. I'm sure she would be morally fine with taking your money.



I'm not convinced of it either, this is more indicative of you being a manipulative sociopath. How does it feel, being such a lowly person your only excuse for your own actions is a diagnosis you in your heart don't even agree with? Why are you morally okay with lying to make yourself look better?

Your definition of a whore is not valid across the board. I have heard of prostitutes and their clients falling in love with each other for example. A whore doesn't always "feign" affection. I say this never having been with a whore, i'm simply defending them because I am sure i know how they think sufficiently in this issue. a marriage is a give and take relationship, and lots of women enter marriages for safety and security and for sexual pleasure. So in the most extrapolated sense, all people married are whore, because no married person is married to the other solely for selfless reasons. Everyone enters a marriage to get what they want out of it.

Do you think you have aspergers?

You said you didn't agree with the diagnosis. Why would you tell people that you have Aspergers if you don't believe it? When you disclose as an excuse for your shitty actions "I'm diagnosed with Aspergers," do you also disclose that you don't agree with the diagnosis? Telling someone you're diagnosed with Aspergers, but then refusing to tell them you disagree with the diagnosis is misleading that person into thinking you legitimately have Aspergers when you yourself disagree with that assessment.

I usually say I'm not convinced i have the diagnosis but I mention it as a possibility that I have the diagnosis.

 

[Shugo]

So in the most extrapolated sense, all people married are whore

Nevermind, I'm done trying to understand your twisted definition of relationships and marriage. I've never been so creeped out by someone so disconnected from reality.

You've obviously never experienced a real, healthy relationship with another person and you somehow invented this insane fantasy idea of what it means to be in a relationship with someone. You literally do not have the ability to feel love for another person and the ability to be loved if this is what you believe what marriage and relationships represent.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Nevermind, I'm done trying to understand your twisted definition of relationships and marriage. I've never been so creeped out by someone so disconnected from reality.

mission accomplished

 

[Shugo]

mission accomplished

Yeah, now go tell your new work friend about how you feel about marriage and about how you're paying off the tickets (with income you haven't even earned yet) of a woman with a restraining order against you.

the money as a means/tool is valid to use to win a woman's heart

Tell her this specifically.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

if she is ever truly interested in me, ill tell her everything about me

 

[Shugo]

if she is ever truly interested in me, ill tell her everything about me

Tell her now. How can she be "interested" in you when you hide the fact that you want to use money to win her heart?

If using money to win women's hearts is moral and fine, why won't you tell her you're fine with it?

It's because you for a fact know it's not acceptable to use money to win women over. You know that women won't talk to you, if they knew that you felt that way. You're a big fat liar who loves using word play and technicalities to get off on your own moral high ground, but no one actually believes you.

No one thinks it's moral or acceptable to use money to swoon women. The fact that you refuse to tell this woman, whom you potentially want to use money to win her heart, this fact proves you know it's wrong, and you know she knows its wrong.

All of your lies and your facades fall apart when it comes to being upfront and honest about your intentions in real life.

Go ask your parents about marriage and love. Ask them if they think it's okay to use money to win a woman's heart. Tell them you think it's fine to use money to win over women. Then tell us their opinions on the matter.

Also, please tell them you're spending $500 on income you haven't even earned yet on tickets for the woman who has a restraining order against you.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

I believe that it is ok to deceive people to get them to fall in love with you. Go back earlier in this thread where i endorse socalled "rape by deception" so long as its not done in a cruel way.

 

[Shugo]

I believe that it is ok to deceive people to get them to fall in love with you. Go back earlier in this thread where i endorse socalled "rape by deception" so long as its not done in a cruel way.

Go tell your new work friend this. Go tell your parents this. If it's moral, they'll understand. Is it okay to deceive your parents?

i'm not a liar.

I believe that it is ok to deceive people

You're not a liar, you're just a deceiver?

There is no difference, liar. Deceit is a sin. Your God will smite you for deceiving women for love.