Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

If you were Taylor Swift, whom would you rather date?

  • Russell Greer

    Votes: 117 4.5%

  • Travis Kelce

    Votes: 138 5.3%

  • Null

    Votes: 1,449 55.8%

  • Kanye West

    Votes: 283 10.9%

  • Ariana Grande

    Votes: 608 23.4%
  • Total voters
    2,595
Is Russell trying to say that because he had a "dream" about Taylor, thats what makes it a "true story"?
Is this why he thinks he can't be sued over this book,and can write whatever he pleases?
 
So, to our lawyers (who I suspect have already participated but am unsure):

What is legally defamation and would this book as we understand it fall into that category? Is Russ sue-able? (not meaning monetarily, just by his actions).

Gossip magazines make up entire stories about celebs and are rarely sued, so what's the difference here? The fact that he said it happened to him and is using first person? There is plenty of fanfic out there and while it may not be made into book form, it's easily read. Amberlynn just did an entire disgusting sex book about Blake Lively.

My understanding is by virtue of their public status, they give up some of their rights regarding libel. They have to prove that the author intended to do harm. (In Russ's case, since he can't shut up, there are plenty of damning posts and hopefully Skordas has a little file going)

But don't they have to prove their career or income was harmed? It's hard to imagine Russ could damage Taylor Swift's career or income in the slightest.

Just curious since so many are throwing it out as a given.
 
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Barbarella said:
So, to our lawyers (who I suspect have already participated but am unsure):

What is legally defamation and would this book as we understand it fall into that category? Is Russ sue-able? (not meaning monetarily, just by his actions).
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Lol I haven't even read this shit. What has he said?

All I've noticed is that whenever I open this thread, sort of like Nora REEEEEEEED's, I say it as Russell GREEEEEEEEEEER.

I don't think that's illegal, though.
 
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rankmelon said:
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What Russ really means: "How did SHE get a news story when I'M suing Tay-tay. Also, check out my book where I tell nothing but the truth about me suing her! Also there's Morgan Freeman! Sort of."

I've lurked for a couple of years and only now has a cow intrigued me enough to post. The sheer disconnect between reality and his delusions is amazing. When he posted that the insta-chick committed suicide solely because of her involvement with him (? Still not sure what he meant. I almost want to say he thinks it's Taylor Swift's fault she killed herself.), I was tempted to say something but it all came off as a-logging. With his oh so juicy tidbit of his absolutely real dream book, I just had to say something.
 
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Smutley said:
These points aren't totally true. If it's a work of fiction they don't have the same stringent requirements as nonfiction. You can have celebrities in your books, and use song lyrics if you want. Stephen king would be sued into oblivion if you couldn't since he prefaced most books and sometimes chapters with song lyrics he writes. Brett Easton Ellis has Tom Cruise living in Patrick Batemans building and the two share an elevator ride together, and in lunar park they have a whole conversation about Christian Bale playing Patrick Bateman. You don't need consent for these things, as unlike visual mediums books don't hold the same requirements.

They can't be the main focus of your story, and you can't have them say or do things that would impact their reputation negatively. But if Russ wrote a fictional story of a dude who loved Taylor Swift and his goal was to meet her? Sure. what he's doing now? If he ever sold more than 5 copies then he'd probably be looking at trouble. Chances are he's being so brazen about this because he's hoping he DOES get sued and will get to meet her in court and woo her.

But to say he can't make reference to or use lyrics is patently false.
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Lyrics are a copyright issue. You can't use lyrics without permission from the artist. Publishers often pay for the use of lyrics and quotes. I'm an author who is with one of the same publishers as Stephen King. As for using living people, yes, it's allowed. Most celebrities aren't bothered by it. But I think I'd be pretty darn upset if someone used my personality for a fake sex scene. I'd get my lawyers involved.
 
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I hope she continues to never acknowledge his existence. At this point he's intentionally legally imperiling himself out of some retarded fantasy that he might see her at her court case and he can give her some flowers and win her over.

He saw that she sued the other dude and showed up. This is a conscious strategy on his part.

He originally sued her under the mistaken impression that she would have to show up.

Now he's hoping she will sue him.

I don't think she will. But man would it be amazing if Calvin Harris did.

Btw is there anything more retarded than this idea that "effort" is all that matters? Like if you put in X amount of effort, Taylor is obligated to fuck you?

I've made probably a hundred posts in here. I read Russ' Facebook every day. I've exhausted considerable effort thinking about how retarded Russ is.

Russ, you now have to fuck me. A brown owl with George Lopez's voice told me effort is all that matters.
 
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Fag Smut said:
I hope she continues to never acknowledge his existence. At this point he's intentionally legally imperiling himself out of some exceptional fantasy that he might see her at her court case and he can give her some flowers and win her over.

He saw that she sued the other dude and showed up. This is a conscious strategy on his part.

He originally sued her under the mistaken impression that she would have to show up.

Now he's hoping she will sue him.

I don't think she will. But man would it be amazing if Calvin Harris did.

Btw is there anything more exceptional than this idea that "effort" is all that matters? Like if you put in X amount of effort, Taylor is obligated to fuck you?

I've made probably a hundred posts in here. I read Russ' Facebook every day. I've exhausted considerable effort thinking about how exceptional Russ is.

Russ, you now have to fuck me. A brown owl with George Lopez's voice told me effort is all that matters.
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@Fag Smut, you hit the nail on the head. Russhole has been told his whole exceptional life that effort is all that matters. "Just try to say 'beachball'" "Just try not to drool at the table", etc. He's not a feral child any more. He's an adult who acts like a screaming, spoiled brat who believes he's entitled to every privilege because of "effort". The reality, Russhole, is that effort means jack shit except in the Special Olympics.

Oh, and lmao at the idea of Russhole having an announcer's voice. smh.
 
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(I just realized how late im replying to that post lol sorry guys)

...its been a while since i brought out my copy of cape fear but pretty sure the scene he thinks hes referencing isnt a "girl taking a guy home" ....pretty sure its a grown ass woman that meets a felon(that is targeting her because he wants to hurt her to hurt the lawyer shes fucking) in a bar and goes to a motel. Sounds like Rusty can't tell Juliette Lewis' character from the character that Lewis' father in the movie is fucking. ...i mean the scene is still pretty messed up but leave it to Russhole to reference a movie while barely knowing what happens in it

Oh and my memory was correct

/end autistic movie sperging
 
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Does he mean the Swift's personal home phone number? I'm pretty sure if he does this stunt, Taylor or her attorney isn't going to like this, and I would think that the attorney will file a no contact order or something. (Isn't Taylor's mom sick?)
Also, if Russell thinks Barnes and Noble is going to sell his book in physical form, he is mistaken. I think Bookstores usually have to have a ton of pre orders before they will stock a book, or it has to be a popular author or subject.
If he's selling his book through Amazon only, Amazon has POD (print on demand). They use HP Indigo presses. I don't think a reputable book company like Ingram, which owns Lightning Source would print this due to to the fact that Russell is claiming this is a "true story". I'm not sure about Lulu. There is no ISBN number yet for Russell's book, but I think if it's done as a Kindle book, Amazon might not require an ISBN number.
 
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