Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[RebatsivePulsard]

Nah.

ETA: Post was up on Facebook <10 minutes. A new record?

 

[TitusOvid]

Maybe he should get arrested. That'll get him the press coverage he wants.

 

[SwiftlyRuiningRussell]

Here he goes with that WE nonsense again! It's not we Russhole, it's YOU and only YOU.

Those little voices in your head are confusing you again, huh? Sorry to hear that. Take your meds.

 

[CallMeDoctorWerm]

Aw look, it was self aware for a millisecond

 

[Paige Matheson]

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Nah.

ETA: Post was up on Facebook <10 minutes. A new record?

Hasn't Russell tried to pester Jesyka Dereta before? I think he pestered her on Facebook and she said she was in another market now?

 

[RebatsivePulsard]

Hasn't Russell tried to pester Jesyka Dereta before? I think he pestered her on Facebook and she said she was in another market now?

I know that he bugged her to cover the Ariana Grande trial and she said "nah".

 

[DonaldChump]

Fucking hell, by doing that Russhole would certainly be looking at a restraining order or maybe even jail time. He's already caused them enough grief.

I'm guessing he's going to harass them as a means of baiting Taylor into action.

I wanna know why he doesnt think this would be the stupidest thing to do. Like would they care? They dont know who you are. Would they be intimated? Youre a gnat, an annoying pest whos shitty book is in the fiction section. Ive seen recent articles of her actually getting backlash for whatever, thats more relevant to her than you, dude. I dont have the link but think of the backlash she got when Kim Kardashian had whatever spat they had. But it never involved you, dude. Shes apparently lost a good deal of face this past year or so and i think hes getting a bigger ego, acting like he has a big dick and it has something to do with him.

Even when shes at her weakest and most vulnerable, you cant phase her. Youre still getting owned by her when shes barely trying, probably ignoring you, or trying harder to do so, so youre just getting wrecked by her staff.

I really wish he would shut his fucking mouth, but oh wait, he physically csnt. At the very least he could try not to be an annoying moronic loser, and stop digging his hole deeper. I mean we all need hobbies, but this dude is making a career out of it.

 

[Fag Smut]

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Nah.

ETA: Post was up on Facebook <10 minutes. A new record?

It's funny looking through the local reporters he tagged. Jessica works in a different state, Rebecca covers sports.

But both are babes!

 

[Angry New Ager]

These points aren't totally true. If it's a work of fiction they don't have the same stringent requirements as nonfiction. You can have celebrities in your books, and use song lyrics if you want. Stephen king would be sued into oblivion if you couldn't since he prefaced most books and sometimes chapters with song lyrics he writes.

No, no--you cannot quote song lyrics in a work of fiction--not without getting permission from the copyright holder, first. Same goes for using other people's writings, photos and artwork; if it's protected under copyright, you have to get pernission.

Novels do not fall under Fair Use, where quoting limited portions of copyrighted materials is allowed for the purpose of criticism or discussion. Look on the copyright page of any Stephen King novel, and you'll find a listing of all the permissions his publisher had to get so he could quote even a line or two of song lyrics (or, occasionally, poetry).

Brett Easton Ellis has Tom Cruise living in Patrick Batemans building and the two share an elevator ride together, and in lunar park they have a whole conversation about Christian Bale playing Patrick Bateman. You don't need consent for these things, as unlike visual mediums books don't hold the same requirements.

Mentioning a celebrity in a novel is acceptable, because the celebrity is a public figure. Including them as a character, and putting words in their mouth is a bit dicier--there will be a disclaimer somewhere in the book's front matter (usually the copyright page) that states that the book is a work of fiction, that all characters and scenes depicted are fictional, and that any resemblance between a fictional character and any person living or dead is purely coincidental.

But even then, if an author chose to depict a celebrity in a very unflattering light, the celebrity could still sue. Bret Easton Ellis's depiction of a character named Tom Cruise, who happens to be a famous actor, is innocuous, and doesn't portray that character in a negative light. Had he portrayed the character of Tom Cruise, famous actor, as going down to the bus terminal to give blowjobs in the men's room, or as a serial killer, or in some other negative way? Then Cruise would have grounds for a lawsuit. As will Taylor Swift, should Russell continue in his folly.

Now, that said, there are protections for unflattering celebrity portrayals that are clearly caricature, parody, or satire (see: Hustler Magazine v. Falwell), but given all of Russell's previous words and actions toward Taylor Swift, he would have a very hard time making a case for that. He's already displayed too much harassing, malicious behavior, and engaged in enough clearly defamatory speech against Swift to convince anyone that his intent is satire for the purpose of entertainment.

Chances are he's being so brazen about this because he's hoping he DOES get sued and will get to meet her in court and woo her.

On this point, I believe you are correct, and agree with you wholeheartedly.

But to say he can't make reference to or use lyrics is patently false.

Nope. He might be able to get away with making indirect references, but unless he's got permission, direct quotes are copyright infringement. And the music industry takes that shit seriously. If he quotes her lyrics at all in a book he intends to sell, he's going to get stomped like a grape.

[ETA disclaimer/mild powerlevel: IANAL, but this stuff comes up occasionally in my line of work.]

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

No, no--you cannot quote song lyrics in a work of fiction--not without getting permission from the copyright holder, first. Same goes for using other people's writings, photos and artwork; if it's protected under copyright, you have to get pernission.

Novels do not fall under Fair Use, where quoting limited portions of copyrighted materials is allowed for the purpose of criticism or discussion. Look on the copyright page of any Stephen King novel, and you'll find a listing of all the permissions his publisher had to get so he could quote even a line or two of song lyrics (or, occasionally, poetry).


Mentioning a celebrity in a novel is acceptable, because the celebrity is a public figure. Including them as a character, and putting words in their mouth is a bit dicier--there will be a disclaimer somewhere in the book's front matter (usually the copyright page) that states that the book is a work of fiction, that all characters and scenes depicted are fictional, and that any resemblance between a fictional character and any person living or dead is purely coincidental.

But even then, if an author chose to depict a celebrity in a very unflattering light, the celebrity could still sue. Bret Easton Ellis's depiction of a character named Tom Cruise, who happens to be a famous actor, is innocuous, and doesn't portray that character in a negative light. Had he portrayed the character of Tom Cruise, famous actor, as going down to the bus terminal to give blowjobs in the men's room, or as a serial killer, or in some other negative way? Then Cruise would have grounds for a lawsuit. As will Taylor Swift, should Russell continue in his folly.

Now, that said, there are protections for unflattering celebrity portrayals that are clearly caricature, parody, or satire (see: Hustler Magazine v. Falwell), but given all of Russell's previous words and actions toward Taylor Swift, he would have a very hard time making a case for that. He's already displayed too much harassing, malicious behavior, and engaged in enough clearly defamatory speech against Swift to convince anyone that his intent is satire for the purpose of entertainment.


On this point, I believe you are correct, and agree with you wholeheartedly.


Nope. He might be able to get away with making indirect references, but unless he's got permission, direct quotes are copyright infringement. And the music industry takes that shit seriously. If he quotes her lyrics at all in a book he intends to sell, he's going to get stomped like a grape.

[ETA disclaimer/mild powerlevel: IANAL, but this stuff comes up occasionally in my line of work.]

I was about to post something similar, but not as comphrensive and informative. You're 100% correct.

You can open many 20th century novels and before the first page you will see a list of copyright acknowledgements and permissions for song lyrics, excerpts from other authors or lines of poetry reproduced in the book. Stephen King is a good example b/c he loves to quote song lyrics in his work and he's a big enough name his publisher gets and pays for whatever ones he wants. CCR's "Bad Moon Rising" lyrics stick out as one he loved to make use of.

I think Russ is regretting not grabbing Grande's ass as a way to get her into court. He's pissed that ass grabbing DJ so widely succeeded in achieving his dream - Tay tay in the docket and knowinv he exists. I promise Taylor Swift has no clue who Russ is, but her security team and certain legal reps certainly do. They probably won't touch Russ's book or do a damn thing no matter what he says (with the exception of threats of violence) only because it would bring him the small measure of attention he's so desperate for.

 

[Zombiefaceddwarf]

Shes apparently lost a good deal of face this past year or so and i think hes getting a bigger ego, acting like he has a big dick and it has something to do with him.

 

[Kugelsak Kastengrus 6th]

With the way he keeps shooting himself in the foot, he's gunna run outta feet before he runs outta bullets. The bullet wound from the Ariana trial hasn't even had the chance to heal yet.

 

[An Ghost]

What Russ really means: "How did SHE get a news story when I'M suing Tay-tay. Also, check out my book where I tell nothing but the truth about me suing her! Also there's Morgan Freeman! Sort of."

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It's shocking how well predicted this was, but still so surprising how he gets worse. Greer has the ability to use his shallowness to dig himself deeper and deeper. His "compassion" for women drives them from him and his trolls closer together. Truly a cow for the ages.

 

[Mike Hunt]

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Aside from his unending thirst for pretty girl pussy, I'm inclined to think that Russhole is bothered so much by his disability that he desperately wants any sort of validation that he matters in this world.

"Hey guys, check out my shitty songs!"
"Hey celebrities, let me fuck you and use your connections so I can get my songwriting career going!"
"Hey Utah, let me run my own brothel!"
"Hey IG girls, date me, but only 9 or 10s allowed!" - Granted, this is probably more for wetting his dick, but I have good reason to believe on the odd chance he scores one, he'll tell all the world about it as a badge of honor.
"Hey news people, check out my lolsuits! Man, those celebrities have to notice me!"

This "Taylor Swift is hiding because of me" seems to stem from his need to feel like he matters. I have no idea how his foster family raised him, but there's a good chance he was reared on hearing how he's a special snowflake and he took it to an illogical extreme, as some lolcows are wont to do.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Aside from his unending thirst for pretty girl pussy, I'm inclined to think that Russhole is bothered so much by his disability that he desperately wants any sort of validation that he matters in this world.

"Hey guys, check out my shitty songs!"
"Hey celebrities, let me fuck you and use your connections so I can get my songwriting career going!"
"Hey Utah, let me run my own brothel!"
"Hey IG girls, date me, but only 9 or 10s allowed!" - Granted, this is probably more for wetting his dick, but I have good reason to believe on the odd chance he scores one, he'll tell all the world about it as a badge of honor.
"Hey news people, check out my lolsuits! Man, those celebrities have to notice me!"

This "Taylor Swift is hiding because of me" seems to stem from his need to feel like he matters. I have no idea how his foster family raised him, but there's a good chance he was reared on hearing how he's a special snowflake and he took it to an illogical extreme, as some lolcows are wont to do.

I think this (and a huge helping of misogyny/obsession with women) are pretty much the driving forces of Russ's life. It's why he's so fixated on celebrity and getting media attention, whether its bad or good, it's all validation to him that he's "important." This is what drives him to harass attractive women online, having a pretty girlfriend is another form of validation and status that Russ is obsessed with. He's a very small, sad little man with an insatiable ego and need for attention/acknowledgement from others.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

She could try to seize his shitty suit.

One of these days he's going to lose a lawsuit badly enough he'll be reduced to wearing a barrel with suspenders like one of those old Warner Brothers cartoons.

 

[theriddler3]

Truly a cow for the ages.

It's hilarious because Russhole's attempts to refute the assertions made on Kiwi and by other "haters" on the web (edit: and Skordas and the meanine biased judges) are the most lulzy catch-22s. No matter what he does, he digs his hole deeper.

His digger has only two gears: fast and faster.

Sorry, I have never used photoshop.

One of these days he's going to lose a lawsuit badly enough he'll be reduced to wearing a barrel with suspenders like one of those old Warner Brothers cartoons.

Frankly, if it was gonna happen, it would've happened by now. If Russhole does see some criminal justice intervention, it's gonna be a slap on the wrist and another stern talking-to. Homeboy is judgement-proof anyways lol.

Also, nothing surprises me anymore about how our criminal justice system works. I have seen people much, much more dangerous to society with deviant, criminal pasts working as authority figures in primary schools. The criminal past was well-known by employees, supervisors, and the state's department of education. There were actual convictions and jail time. Such is life. "Justice" is an entirely human concept projected onto a very un-human, amoral universe.

As much as I'd like Russ to see some justice in the form of a legal smackdown, I'm perfectly okay with just poetic justice in his case. His desperate attempts to get laid just make im more un-layble. It's goddamned hilarious. Like a dog chasing a car, but the dog doesn't realize that the car is unreachable and it's wearing all the padding off its paws on the sweltering asphalt.


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Unrelated edit, but I don't want to double post.

I desperately want to know if Russhole is in a paranoid frenzy at work, trying to figure out who @SlurpDisRusshole is. I would love to hear from SlurpDisRusshole again regarding this, but I think it might be too risky.

Maybe I should spend my time wondering about more productive things? Lol nahhh

 

[Tempest]

One of these days he's going to lose a lawsuit badly enough he'll be reduced to wearing a barrel with suspenders like one of those old Warner Brothers cartoons.

he's probably going to be labelled a Vexatious Litigant at some point, and will be prohibited from filing a lawsuit without a judge's approval

 

[sharshorita]

I don't think he's totally judgment proof. I looked into it. He probably has no assets to speak of, but only $217.50 per week of income is protected. From my understanding they can take anything above that or they can take 25% of his total income, whichever is lower. I doubt he makes less than that.

 

[theriddler3]

I don't think he's totally judgment proof. I looked into it. He probably has no assets to speak of, but only $217.50 per week of income is protected. From my understanding they can take anything above that or they can take 25% of his total income, whichever is lower. I doubt he makes less than that.

Ah, I didn't know the exact number. This is good info. I wonder if Skordas will actually attempt to collect his money since there is a chance at least some of it can be recovered.

Edit: SlurpDisRusshole said a conservative estimate was $1600-$1800 (don't remember if this was net or gross) for Russhole's monthly income. So, easily $100 or so per week could be garnished if that's a net income estimate (going by the 25% of income being the lower amount).