DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[MMX]

I can't believe that on the Kiwi Farms, a place where we have seen time and time again that giving cows money to troll them is the worst possible thing you can do, people are even beginning to attempt to justify giving Phil money.

I can't think of one time where giving Phil money was wildly successful, no matter what his reaction to the question asked was. Even if you give him very small amounts of money it ends up adding up quite a lot over time. Just look at that guy Mort for a good example, he thought he was trolling Phil by throwing him a couple of dollars every stream and all it amounted to was Phil laughing at him and taking his money, rightfully so. There's no epic win trolling occurring, all you're doing is allowing Phil to eat better food and live more comfortably.

Let's be honest
Everyone says they follow the rules like
No trolling plans
Don't give cows money
Don't create drama
Stop trying to be funny on twitter

But what they really mean is don't get caught doing it
The recent Chris stuff just how's how embedded people are in the creation of content

 

[Freshtodeath]

I just watched the WIP so here are some thoughts. It could be Leanna's hospital bill. However that wouldn't really require a "meeting" of any sort. It sounds like he's meeting with either the bank or the HOA. He still hasn't denied the panda lee accusations tho which is weird and he also continues to deny that it's a business. Also he keeps saying, "It has nothing to do with me".

We might have to start thinking of a DSP level here. "nothing to do with me" implies either his bank got bought out and he needs to show proof of documentation or the detractors are to blame for him losing his house because of loss of revenue.

This is so fun though, there are so many possibilities. Everyone should be sure to tune in to the prestream tonight.

-also panda lee depression. imagine the post relationship thoughts after realizing you've been with DSP for 5 years.

 

[Dewey Manlove]

Perhaps an endorsement deal could be another cash stream to keep his "non-business" afloat? I mean everyone knows him after his 8-year legacy.

 

[JackDavis]

Leanna fucking has insurance under her mom's plan. He said so during his Leanna's Anxiety Tell All vlahg.

 

[DiabeticSP]

Does anyone wish Cooking with the King would come back? Especially now that Phil is cooking for 1 again? Not that he ever actually did anything in the kitchen except his Sausch.

Also, someone should suggest he switch to the diet v8 energy because they aren't half bad. I'm legit worried all this mvc stream salt is going to actually kill him sooner rather than later.

I think a lot of it is overreacting for views because it's the only popular game he's played in months but honestly a lot of it is legit manic anxiety or some shit, it's insane how worked up he's been getting every single day. And you know his staycation isn't going to help. I bet he doesn't even leave his house.

 

[Near]

Let's be honest
Everyone says they follow the rules like
No trolling plans
Don't give cows money
Don't create drama
Stop trying to be funny on twitter

But what they really mean is don't get caught doing it

The giving money one seems more like common sense than anything else on that list.
Maybe i'm just the crazy one who doesn't get hit by any desire to give someone else money. Really makes you think

 

[MMX]

The giving money one seems more like common sense than anything else on that list.
Maybe i'm just the crazy one who doesn't get hit by any desire to give someone else money. Really makes you think

People just justify it with
Well I spend more on a coffee on the way to work and it was totally worth it
Then end up crying to the mods about getting threadbanned and how it was totally worth it just to get a second of Internet fame.

 

[Tetra]

I can't believe that on the Kiwi Farms, a place where we have seen time and time again that giving cows money to troll them is the worst possible thing you can do, people are even beginning to attempt to justify giving Phil money.

I can't think of one time where giving Phil money was wildly successful, no matter what his reaction to the question asked was. Even if you give him very small amounts of money it ends up adding up quite a lot over time. Just look at that guy Mort for a good example, he thought he was trolling Phil by throwing him a couple of dollars every stream and all it amounted to was Phil laughing at him and taking his money, rightfully so. There's no epic win trolling occurring, all you're doing is allowing Phil to eat better food and live more comfortably.

I guess some people don't want to see their cow die out. It's a stupid justification but at least I can somewhat understand where they're coming from.

The retards who says they're doing it because they somehow believe they can make phil change his attitude however, I don't understand at all.

 

[PorkchopSandwiches]

Thanks for the summary neger.

These two points along with reading the HOA by-laws have me 95% certain that he is in hot water with the HOA.

The fact that he left out anything related to the HOA when he was talking about the incorrect speculations as well as his sudden, sharp, 180° turn to stop calling what he does as his "business" last week point me to the HOA being the cause of his recent problem.

I know we have talked about this in the thread before, but the sudden nonchalant transition away from using the term "business" has to be one of the biggest clues/insights into what is going on behind the scenes. He has been calling his work his business for years, he has attacked detractors on Twitter, Twitch, and his Gulag forums who challenged or insulted him using the word business. He loved calling his YouTube channels his business because it fed his ego and in his eyes legitimized his work. It is this same ego that makes him dig his heels in and refuse to change, be open to criticism, etc. So for him to just do an about face and distance himself from a word that defined his work in his mind, something serious must have happened to change his mind so quickly.

Here it is. Get to hear a great story about how his monitor died, and he had to go and use the monitor in his bedroom. Again. Like the 5th time he's explained this shit.

• Talks about the speculation about his health, his financial situation, his house getting demoed, IRS audit, DSP enterprises. He says none of that is true.
• "if I were ever forced to sell this place, and go to a small place or you know, god forbid, worst case scenario, move back to the east coast, back to where I started, a lot of the things, the improvements that I put into the business slash whatever you want to call this, because technically it's not a business. That's another thing to, I've been calling out this is not a business, because it's not, it's not a legally registered business and a lot of people have been saying 'oh that's why I think Phil is getting tax audited'. It's not, this isn't a legally registered business at all. It's just me being self-employed, making some ad revenue on my videos on YouTube, making some ad revenue on my stream, and you guys subbing, cheering, tipping, patreon, you know all that is income and it's not a registered business or anything like that.

 

[JackDavis]

The giving money one seems more like common sense than anything else on that list.
Maybe i'm just the crazy one who doesn't get hit by any desire to give someone else money. Really makes you think

I've been reading these articles online about the people who give money to streamers and it's a ego/reputation thing. They're addicted to the admiration from their peers about how giving and supportive they are. It becomes like a drug to them.

One guy was known for giving thousands of dollars to streamers at a time. He was fired from his job and had no more money left, so he dipped into his savings to give to streamers. By the time his savings ran out, he had given away $300,000. Needing money because he was broke, he went to GoFundMe and concocted a lie about sudden illness and medical bills and raised $15k before guilt took over and he canceled it.

TLDR: Mental illness. A lot of these people like @BSV have it.

 

[EddyB43]

I can't believe that on the Kiwi Farms, a place where we have seen time and time again that giving cows money to troll them is the worst possible thing you can do, people are even beginning to attempt to justify giving Phil money.

I can't think of one time where giving Phil money was wildly successful, no matter what his reaction to the question asked was. Even if you give him very small amounts of money it ends up adding up quite a lot over time. Just look at that guy Mort for a good example, he thought he was trolling Phil by throwing him a couple of dollars every stream and all it amounted to was Phil laughing at him and taking his money, rightfully so. There's no epic win trolling occurring, all you're doing is allowing Phil to eat better food and live more comfortably.

I was a little annoyed when I realized by December 2015 that yes, DSP actually had a raw views contract, not ad revenue sharing. I figured he was an idiot or was "keeping it simple" for his viewers when he said he got paid on views alone. I'd watched many of his YouTube streams via Freedom Chat since late May 2015, and views count oddly on streams. Prime example I remember was the Lego Jurassic World premiere, which did well with ~500 viewers & inspired DSP to do more co-op playthroughs with Leanna, thus Godfather/Lego Batman 3/Lego Star Wars TFA. That 3+ hour stream with ~500 viewers, when it was made a public stream VoD the next week... somehow had 5K or 10K views, I think 10K. This implies just watching a stream for a long period counted as more than 1 view, I can't believe 10K unique viewers passed through this 3+ hour stream.
I figure I earned DSP something like $5 off stream views, WiPs etc. for those few months before he was dropped to ad revenue with everyone thanks to YouTube Red. So I paid for one of his DSP Tries It burger reviews, ugh. Ran AdBlockPlus & then uBlock Origin for years before that.

I liked the thought earlier in the thread that big donators between his regular large cheerers & tippers are actually harming DSP, because they enable him to think this lifestyle is viable, yet don't give him enough to get him out of whatever big debts he has. Imagine if one of them paid him say $10K, perhaps $20K+ lump sum and he could pay off some credit card debts?

I can't find it any more, but I swear I read an article in 2016, perhaps around the summer, where the news reported PayPal had changed some part of their ToS & would now amongst other things always refuse refund requests for Twitch tips & Patreon pledges. This (along with doing dozens of small tips) is why Mort was never getting his money back, and why I think DSP will keep the $500+$150 "troll tips" from earlier this month.

 

[flankSR]

I can't find it any more, but I swear I read an article in 2016, perhaps around the summer, where the news reported PayPal had changed some part of their ToS & would now amongst other things always refuse refund requests for Twitch tips & Patreon pledges. This (along with doing dozens of small tips) is why Mort was never getting his money back, and why I think DSP will keep the $500+$150 "troll tips" from earlier this month.

That would be pretty funny if a troll donation ended costing someone $500.

 

[ProdigalDuke]

Does anyone wish Cooking with the King would come back? Especially now that Phil is cooking for 1 again? Not that he ever actually did anything in the kitchen except his Sausch.

His cooking show is still one of the funniest fucking things he's ever done to me. The way he takes it so seriously, like it's haute cuisine, but really he's just grilling hot dogs and presenting it to us as an instructional video. I'd like to think he would bring it back because it would even get detractor views, but all he seems to care about is streaming these days. I can't see how he would panhandle many tips and cheers from it unless he started burning his house down.

 

[Rare Drop]

The exceptional individuals who says they're doing it because they somehow believe they can make phil change his attitude however, I don't understand at all.

Yeah, I like that even the TKOH forums is starting to see the cracks, but that's the same group that made his situation better than getting a normal job and put him in this corner. Because his paypigs gave him $6-7k a month and he's still struggling, his job gap is extremely hard to spin- he's never getting that much again if his Youtube/Twitch dies off.

 

[Jaiman]

Woah, Phil is not very good at video games.

 

[BrunoMattei]

 

[Tetra]

Woah, Phil is not very good at video games.

Don't worry he isn't much better at life.

 

[Noob-Noob]

This is gonna be my final thoughts on the superspecialsecret emergency matter, before he comes out with his inevitable vlog video about it later. Let's not kid ourselves guys. If we're going off of Phil's past behavior regarding these types of situations, we can assume that whatever it is he's talking about is very minor compared to what he's actually making it out to be. Phil may be a dumbass, but he really is an evil genius when it comes to siphoning cash from the wallets of the weak minded. "I'M GONNA LOSE MY HOUSE MAAYYYNNNEE!!" is more likely then not the absolute worst, worst, worst case scenario that could come from this, knowing what Phil knows. Given how hard Phil exaggerates I'd say, realistically, there's only about a 10%-15% chance of that actually happening. That's why he's playing it smart. Don't tell anyone the reality of the situation, cause they might see it for what it is, probably not that big of a deal. Only give them the DOOMSDAY scenario, that technically could happen, and make them panic like it most likely will happen. He even covers his tracks by saying he "could" tell us but he's not going to cause "we wouldn't understand". This leads me to believe that it's more along the lines of "we wouldn't understand" how "serious" the situation is and would rightly make light of it, just like Phil's Halloween event goal. This is a Halloween event goal. Something he thinks is super important, but his fans/supporters probably wouldn't if he told them. Apparently he's gotten 5k+ out of them so far, due in major part to this fiasco no doubt, this month. So whatever his plan was, it worked. #norefunds

I'm so glad these are my last few thoughts. I think I'm suffering from and overload of my favorite show, "The Sad Times & Life of Phil".

 

[James Smith]

I've been looking into the mortgage angle a bit because that seemed interesting to me.

It would be great if he got a notice that his income and employment hisyory were being re-verified and the lender looked at the information and went "Hold on a minute here, last time you gave us this information you claimed a significantly higher income in 2014 than what you're claiming today. Did you misrepresent your ability to repay this loan when you applied for it?" and he's about to get his shit kicked in.

 

[Le Redditeur Part Deux]

I've been looking into the mortgage angle a bit because that seemed interesting to me.

It would be great if he got a notice that his income and employment hisyory were being re-verified and the lender looked at the information and went "Hold on a minute here, last time you gave us this information you claimed a significantly higher income in 2014 than what you're claiming today. Did you misrepresent your ability to repay this loan when you applied for it?" and he's about to get his shit kicked in.

Damn, if $7.5k/month is "significantly less" income than what he was making in 2014... how much dough was this fat fucker making back then?!