Leftist/Communist/Antifa Furry General - Featuring Telegram Chat Leaks

edgedestroys said:
Is it genuinely so unfathomable to you that we give a shit without an ulterior motive? If you want to look at it in some cold ass tactical way, then yeah, the raiders are a problematic community and preventing their numbers from growing lessens the impact of said community. but I'm not interested in acting like some calculated mechanical reading of Sun Tzu about this. My honest genuine first thought was literally just "it's scary a minor is interacting with them like this, he can do better and be way safer, he shouldn't be around them because it's literally unsafe."

"What will my group do with him" is such a weird ass question for you to ask because it feels like you imagine I'm stalking around in some dark cave with a bunch of people chanting in robes anxiously waiting for some mysterious figure to deliver him unto us upon a sacrificial alter for a blood ritual. That would be a pretty dope scene - excluding the kid showing up to die - especially if they were good at tibetan throat singing but my "group" isn't going to "do" anything with him. Maybe some will be his friends, some will probably just think about this as an anecdote about how the raiders suck ass. I just want the kid to move on and make cool friends and not associate with racists. When all of this is said and done, and good lord I hope it's soon, I'm not going to DO anything with the kid except reply to him if he tweets at me and not try to proselytize him into white supremacy. Like, that's it dude.
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I think what you're doing is cool but it would be better if you also tried to talk him out of wanting to fuck dogs.
 
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Space Pirate said:
It was a question, no need for hostilities here.

I'm merely asking considering how your group operates in this situation, not so much as what YOU personally would get involved with.
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Not trying to be hostile, I just haven't slept in about 21 hours lol sorry if it's coming off snappy. This is honestly new to me dude which is why I didn't even contact him at first because I wasn't sure how best to do it. I think the getting kids out thing is new to everyone? No one's really made a guide book or anything for it. To the best of my knowledge this is only maybe the 3rd minor people have tried to get away from the raiders? I think there's a 4th that figured out they sucked on his own. This is only the second time I've been a part of the like Evacuating A Minor thing.

I really can't tell you how the group operates other than talking to them and trying to coax them down out of it, there's never been a "well NOW what do we do with them" moment. There isn't even a huge group or anything for this, like there's no organized Minor Protection Squad discord chat or anything. Shit as far as I know it's only been me and one other person that's talked kids out of this junk. Can't tell you what the protocol is because other than "don't let the raiders fuck around with kids" there really isn't one.

Dynastia said:
I think what you're doing is cool but it would be better if you also tried to talk him out of wanting to fuck dogs.
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baby steps my guy
 
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edgedestroys said:
Not trying to be hostile, I just haven't slept in about 21 hours lol sorry if it's coming off snappy. This is honestly new to me dude which is why I didn't even contact him at first because I wasn't sure how best to do it. I think the getting kids out thing is new to everyone? No one's really made a guide book or anything for it. To the best of my knowledge this is only maybe the 3rd minor people have tried to get away from the raiders? I think there's a 4th that figured out they sucked on his own. This is only the second time I've been a part of the like Evacuating A Minor thing.

I really can't tell you how the group operates other than talking to them and trying to coax them down out of it, there's never been a "well NOW what do we do with them" moment. There isn't even a huge group or anything for this, like there's no organized Minor Protection Squad discord chat or anything. Shit as far as I know it's only been me and one other person that's talked kids out of this junk. Can't tell you what the protocol is because other than "don't let the raiders fuck around with kids" there really isn't one.
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So essentially this whole thing is just you and that weird pokemon twitter account then?
 
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Space Pirate said:
So essentially this whole thing is just you and that weird pokemon twitter account then?
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Oh nah the most involvement they had was trying to see if they could get contact info for his parents if it came to that but they didn't talk to him, this was the first they'd gotten somewhat involved. Like I said this is some fresh hell new territory so I could be wrong about how many times this has happened before but as far as I know it's just been me and Deo that have talked them down out of it. And before you ask no, I don't think Deo gave them the communist manifesto, like her or hate her she has the aplomb to not drop that on a kid fresh out of the raiders lol.
 
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Space Pirate said:
Oh, I took the liberty of peeking at twitter again, something I really need to stop doing. Twitter is a shitty social networking medium.

Found https://twitter.com/edgedestroys/status/912842079990140928

Edit: Forgot to archive https://archive.is/MUJWh

Edit edit: Goddamn he's been babbling about it on twitter all this time.
https://archive.is/uQ0c2
https://archive.is/NVDtS
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Something I notice about that crowd which is interesting to keep note of is how passive aggressive they are. Look at when they get into Twitter debates, their timeline will be fueled with "ugh this person".
 
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Due to still being bored, I have decided to:

Name(?): Katherine Swain Sularz
Birthname: [Would be nice if someone found that key right about now.]
Lives in Broomfield, Colorado

https://twitter.com/FlynnWurm - https://archive.is/PF7pX
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/flynn/ - https://archive.is/2fa22 (Current Archive - https://archive.is/2b3yh)
https://www.facebook.com/katherine.sularz - https://archive.is/qtZSA
https://www.weasyl.com/~flynn - https://archive.is/s0wLX
https://flynn-the-wurm.deviantart.com/ - https://archive.is/OUp0w
https://www.reddit.com/user/FlynnWurm/ - https://archive.is/aFPrs
http://steamcommunity.com/id/flynnwurm - https://archive.is/bIur9
https://plus.google.com/111873559630156235049 - https://archive.is/ee1lw

It's not as good as the earlier one I posted due to the obvious name change. Why a name change?

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edgedestroys said:
yo edgedestroys here, just wanted to clarify what's up with all this after talking to this kid.

1. I did in fact never intend to dox him or publish information and told others not to contact his parents unless it seemed like the only viable way to get him out of the situation because as jaiman said, foxler's dipshit goblin clubhouse isn't really a place for a minor. toothpaste is already out of the tube on this one space pirate but I figured my own dox was inevitable so at least I can stop waiting for it now. you did a way better job than whoever made the first attempt.

2. just spent a few hours talking to him and uh... whew I don't really know how to unpack the conversation but he asked me himself to publicly clarify stuff. what he told me personally is that when he said "pet" it was "nonsexual" to him (taken with a grain of salt since I don't really know him), he said he feels "animalistic" impulses (not in a therian way?) and in order to keep himself from hurting people or acting out he feels a need to basically force himself to adhere to his "moral code" by making himself a pet to someone so he has someone he feels he will betray and thus force him not to act on these impulses. I guess to him "pet" is a sort of "moral contract" to stay chill? Told him he didn't have to stick with the raiders for that and should keep that contact to everyone in general and himself instead of one singular group of jaded shitheads but he's absolutely convinced he can't leave despite telling me they don't actually force him to stick to his code (???) I don't get it either, I guess kudos to him for not wanting to hurt people but it's a hell of a way to impose consequence on yourself and the absolute insistence that he cannot leave them scares the living shit out of me. like cult shit scary.

3. he's very very sick of people calling him 15 and he's actually 16, not that it's any less predatory and whack that the raiders are talking about "mentoring" him but hey, the kid's sick of being called 15 I guess.

4. he told me the raiders are "actually really nice and kind to him" and I asked him how long he'd been in them because I've watched their bonkers ass shit for a few years and they are not "nice, kind" people, and I didn't understand how he missed it other than them pulling cult ass tactics and giving him the sugarcoated treatment with lite ideology to snare him before going full blast (obviously paraphrased). apparently he joined the furry fandom back last december so he's only been around 9 months. he told me very shortly after joining furry he found the raider furaffinity page which very cutely says "Our goals was to help build a stronger and better community while encouraging personal creativity and expression. The only way we could achieve our goals was through equality between everyone." yeah, sure ok. so essentially this kid got into furry, straight away saw the raiders' FA page talking about promoting a wholesome utopia and thought "oh these seem like good people I'll join them".

which is 5. how all of this got started in the first place with me posting the screenshots. I get sent leaks of the raider chat regularly and post them because this ridiculous bullshit nice guy act they barely manage to cobble together on the surface is how they either A) get new young people in or B) claim they aren't "doing anything wrong". This went from "I want you assholes to be transparent and everyone to know what you're really up to" to "holy shit what the fuck is this kid shit". The Indoctrinate Young People Desperate To Fit In With A Group MO is wild with them. Yeah I'm a loud ass leftist SJW but I think it's generally an agreeable thing that minors shouldn't be hanging out with people that say "gas the kikes, race war now" and call the holocaust "the great lie" in a group started by a neonazi wannabe pedophile that tried to groom a puppy to make out with him. not really looking for damage control here, the dox is out so whatever on that but I figured in fairness of managing my own mess I'd clarify some of.... whatever the hell all of this is. big ol' tl:dr main theme here being the raiders are some scary ass predatory fuckers.

update on behalf of dynastia: the kid isn't a nazi, I don't think he is, himself said he isn't down with racism and generally wants the best for the fandom. still mixed up with WAY the wrong crowd and going about it with some real negative peace mindset shit but nah, the kid isn't a nazi.



yeah we're trying to get people to understand the paradox of tolerance but dang dude it's fuckin hard. anyway I'll probably forget the throwaway password I made to post all this in about a week so it's been real I guess my dudes.
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'I'll probably never come back..'

Yeah, sure kiddo, that's what they always say.
Space Pirate said:
I kind of have to apologize a bit about that. I was almost about to sleep when I was woken up abruptly, and between being told all this shit about lefties using hard work for their own autistic politics and me bored as all fucking hell recently, I may have pulled the trigger too early.

That being said, I didn't dox Edgedestroys because he was trying to dox a 15 year old kid. I doxxed him because he's a big head. Otherwise, I'd be going after that typholsion looking pokehumper.

But meh, too late for regret, and he posted here, so it amounted to something.
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That sure is a lot of words for someone trying to say "I was an assmad little faggot that made the Farms look like fucking amateurs over some hurt feelies and bad reading comprehension."
 
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Space Pirate said:
Due to still being bored, I have decided to:

Name(?): Katherine Swain Sularz
Birthname: [Would be nice if someone found that key right about now.]
Lives in Broomfield, Colorado

https://twitter.com/FlynnWurm - https://archive.is/PF7pX
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/flynn/ - https://archive.is/2fa22 (Current Archive - https://archive.is/2b3yh)
https://www.facebook.com/katherine.sularz - https://archive.is/qtZSA
https://www.weasyl.com/~flynn - https://archive.is/s0wLX
https://flynn-the-wurm.deviantart.com/ - https://archive.is/OUp0w
https://www.reddit.com/user/FlynnWurm/ - https://archive.is/aFPrs
http://steamcommunity.com/id/flynnwurm - https://archive.is/bIur9
https://plus.google.com/111873559630156235049 - https://archive.is/ee1lw

It's not as good as the earlier one I posted due to the obvious name change. Why a name change?

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I am actually somewhat familiar with this person. Supposedly, they are an actual intersex/Herm and not a man. In the Medical term, not the Tumblr one. they tend to go off on it alot, and at one point threatened to start suing artists on FA if a certain law passed, because they would refuse to draw its Herm character in a commission.
Those journals have since been nuked, a long, long time ago.
 
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Golden Compass said:
That sure is a lot of words for someone trying to say "I was an assmad little faggot that made the Farms look like fucking amateurs over some hurt feelies and bad reading comprehension."
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You say that like I represent the farms in any way, or that my motivation was purely based on emotional outburst, rather than "lol fuck this guy."
 
Space Pirate said:
You say that like I represent the farms in any way, or that my motivation was purely based on emotional outburst, rather than "lol fuck this guy."
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Space Pirate said:
Doubleposting for my own rustled jimmies:

Here are links to everything of the user Edge Destroys. His band, and his face. Wikifur shows his personal info as well.

https://sneed-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/48/d2/72/48d272bfd712beec0ed1228270544b6b.jpg
Stephen Nicholas Craft
edgedestroys@gmail.com
Phone: 863-272-3219
Born May 28th, 1990

Address(?): 329 Pearlwood St Orlando, FL

https://www.facebook.com/runetoothmusic/ - https://archive.is/z4azo
https://www.youtube.com/user/GEARSTunes/
https://plus.google.com/u/0/118150877758873077601 - https://archive.is/u7O7b
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xedgewolfx/ - https://archive.is/G2eOz
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/acaciahyaena - https://archive.is/Vd7RC
http://boards.vinylcollective.com/profile/4252-edgedestroys/?do=content - https://archive.is/5EJYy
https://twitter.com/runetoothmusic - https://archive.is/ZYsz0
https://soundcloud.com/runetoothmusic -
http://edgedestroys.tumblr.com/ - https://archive.is/BbMrw
https://www.redbubble.com/people/edgedestroys/ - https://archive.is/4INio
https://www.mixcloud.com/edgedestroys/ - https://archive.is/WlJJK
http://typographybreakdowns.tumblr.com/ - https://archive.is/0GC3f
https://soundcloud.com/runetoothmusic - https://archive.is/nEWLB
https://inkbunny.net/edge - https://archive.is/I36bZ
http://en.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Edge - https://archive.is/kSScd
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/gearsoftheapparatus - https://archive.is/YoWKb
https://asseasexhale.bandcamp.com/
https://www.presskit.to/runetoothmusic
http://www.purevolume.com/gearsoftheapparatus
https://www.facebook.com/stephenxcraft - https://archive.is/r35QP
https://voterrecords.com/voter/70935823/stephen-craft


The Dox You Wiki article is probably going to be filled very quickly. You're fucking welcome.
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Emphasis mine. Sure seems like you got emotional, faggot. Doxxing some rando furfag wasn't the issue. Whining about it like a little bitch was. Do better next time.
 
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Golden Compass said:
Emphasis mine. Sure seems like you got emotional, faggot. Doxxing some rando furfag wasn't the issue. Whining about it like a little bitch was. Do better next time.
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Annoyed is a far stretch down from emotional. When I think emotional I assume a raging lunatic smashing their keyboard with a whole lotta a-logging.

Apologizing for sounding a bit rash is also a polite thing to do, if you have a problem with it, I have a bag of dicks for you to calm your hunger.
 
The thing that's always struck me as bizarre about the whole "furry antifa" thing is that someone in a fetish community wandering around in a nazi uniform is pretty much guaranteed to be doing it because it's a fetish. So you have all these people who are in a fringe fetish that the other 99% of the world thinks is fucking sick deciding to throw stones from their glass house at other people because of their fringe fetish. Fucking a dog? Understandable. People in diapers? No problem, welcome to furry! People in a black military uniform with some skulls? REEEEEE GET OUT
 
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Agaygoat said:
Funny that edgedestroys came here and didn't make a scene considering he's prime material for this thread. Props for trying to engage and not flipping the fuck out, I think.
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I give him that, besides the little surge of spurge that he had when I was asking about his "band."
 
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Agaygoat said:
Funny that edgedestroys came here and didn't make a scene considering he's prime material for this thread. Props for trying to engage and not flipping the fuck out, I think.
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Sssh, don't encourage sane behavior. It's harder to fuck with them when they don't start flinging shit.

Hey @edgedestroys your band is shit
 
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Agaygoat said:
Funny that edgedestroys came here and didn't make a scene considering he's prime material for this thread. Props for trying to engage and not flipping the fuck out, I think.
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Really, if you think about it rationally, that's about the best way to go about interacting with the Farms.

@edgedestroys While I understand your concern for a minor hanging out with people who are not only cool with the whole Nazi thing but also okay with wanting to fuck actual dogs instead of just the cartoon kind, speaking from experience I gotta say you were right in deciding that trying to take this kid under your wing would be a bad idea. A kid hanging out with Nazi zoophile apologists is probably not in the best place mentally to begin with, and getting involved with somebody that wants to be the pet of a grown-ass man who can barely write, brags about fucking his dogs, and wanted to join the neo-Nazis to "see what they were all about" is bound to blow up in your face.

Sometimes, you have to back off and let a kid learn from their mistakes on their own, because they will never learn any other way. No good deed goes unpunished.

Also while I'm glad you owned up to being petty about the doxing @Space Pirate , your harping on @edgedestroys going through several different bands strikes me as odd and to me just shows that you don't know very many musicians. It's common as fuck for bands to break up or go through several different line-ups before settling down. It's a rough business and it's really hard to make it in music.

Pick your battles, dude.
 
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Meowthkip said:
Also while I'm glad you owned up to being petty about the doxing @Space Pirate , your harping on @edgedestroys going through several different bands strikes me as odd and to me just shows that you don't know very many musicians. It's common as fuck for bands to break up or go through several different line-ups before settling down. It's a rough business and it's really hard to make it in music.

Pick your battles, dude.
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I'll keep that in mind next time. While the original intent of asking him about the bands was to keep him engaged, I feel as if it was taken the wrong way.

Though, interesting info regrdless.
 
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Space Pirate said:
I'll keep that in mind next time. While the original intent of asking him about the bands was to keep him engaged, I feel as if it was taken the wrong way.

Though, interesting info regrdless.
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It came off as a bit antagonistic, yeah. And a bit off topic.

Live and learn, friend.
 
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Meowthkip said:
It came off as a bit antagonistic, yeah. And a bit off topic.

Live and learn, friend.
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This being said, some things did come to mind when I was reading his later posts...

the most involvement they had was trying to see if they could get contact info for his parents if it came to that
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it's just been me and Deo that have talked them down out of it
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What I can infer from picking from his long ass wall of texts here is the implication that the group itself is trying to act as a doxxing group, pulling things from their own shitty google-fu and relying on the farms whenever they're too stupid to figure it out. There is further evidence to this as Len's dox that was posted here was spread all over twitter by a leftyfur who is confirmed in the group. (Len stated it was Edge who did it himself, I don't really take that for what it is.)

Ultimately what it looks like on the surface is a group keeping a kid away from some creepy ass pedo. Deeper down there may be motivations that not even edge will admit, but these are merely speculations.
 
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