(((Richard B. Spencer))) - Child Porn Supporting "Founder" of the "Alt-Right", Cucked by ANTIFA, Soyboy, ALLEGED Wife Beater

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Coleman Francis said:
I bet there is a lot of overlap going on between these two groups.
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There absolutely is. It's obvious from the number of incels and nice guys who bitch about women fucking "Tyrone".

Racial purity/superiority is the same as calling yourself a nice guy: just another way to proclaim that you deserve good rewards without actually doing anything to earn them.
 
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Alec Benson Leary said:
There absolutely is. It's obvious from the number of incels and nice guys who bitch about women fucking "Tyrone".

Racial purity/superiority is the same as calling yourself a nice guy: just another way to proclaim that you deserve good rewards without actually doing anything to earn them.
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The incel's/nice guys bitch about the illusive "Chad" taking all the pretty girls. The neo nazi types bitch about the illusive "Tyrone" taking all of their woman. Instead of looking inward at their own faults and wondering why they are seeking out trashy woman who would rather settle for Tyrone over them, its much easier to blame the woman.
 
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Broseph Stalin said:
Funnily enough, just about 97% of interracial relationships with a black guy and white woman that I've seen usually involves a fit, young "Tyrone" and a trashy looking 300 lb cheesehog of a woman.
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She smokes Kools. If they ever ban menthols, these people will need to develop an entirely new signifier for their mating ritual.
 
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Funnily enough, just about 97% of interracial relationships with a black guy and white woman that I've seen usually involves a fit, young "Tyrone" and a trashy looking 300 lb cheesehog of a woman.
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And the 300 lb cheesehog women usually have a couple kids from previous relationships that "didn't quite work out". They probably thought their dating lives were over, let themselves go physically, only to be sweept their feet by Tyrone the gentleman!
 
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In the David Packman interview Spencer says that Indo-European means White and that Central Asians like Afghans and Persians are White. He also accidentally says that he celebrated Hanukkah but quickly tried to fix it that he meant that the Jews recently celebrated it and it was a slip that he said that he celebrated it.


Transcript of video
I'm joined today by Richard Spencer who's the editor of alt-right comm and president of the National Policy Institute Richard I know you've had a busy inauguration weekend and we'll talk about that a little bit I want to just first start for people who may not know your sort of political philosophy in preparing for this interview I read about a lot of terms that are ascribed to you many of which I think you don't agree with so let's just see if we can figure out sort of how you describe your political philosophy do you consider yourself to be any of the following white nationalist white separatist neo-nazi nazi white supremacist do any of those terms apply to how you see yourself I think white nationalist would be the term that I'm most comfortable with the term that I identify with is identitarian and to just sum that up most concisely that means that identity is the foundation of thinking about politics thinking about culture thinking about society so that that question who are we yeah is the first question we ask before we ask other questions like what should our economic policy be what do we think about culture what do we think about foreign policy and so on when you and I think in a recent interview I think multiple times you've taken credit for creating the sort of concept of alright or alternative right I mean I just want to get that on record in our interview before I asked questions based on it you do take credit for that yes I I do take credit for that in in the summer of 2008 I started using this term and alternative right or even the alternative right and at that time it was much more vague than it is today because I think I've evolved you know a little bit and I think the term has evolved in parallel but at that time I would say the the alternative right was a big tent of people who wanted to get away from the conservatism of the time we wanted to get away from george w bush we wanted to get away from the iraq war we wanted to get away from all the things that define the right in the 2000s and so at that time that the term was out you could say a bit looser as things have gone on I have developed my own identitarian philosophy that of course you know I identify in that philosophy as an ideology emerged in in Europe I've developed my own version of it you could say I certainly identify with that movement and it's interesting because the the alt-right is evolved as well and I think the alt-right has evolved at this point where it really is an identity movement it lets in I didn't say that because on the one hand one of the aspects that's very common and the thing is you know the alt-right is a somewhat amorphous movement its borders are not super clearly defined it's it's sort of a self self-professed thing but I'm good actually one of the the aspects that I've noticed is that the alt-right generally is very critical of what we've come to know is so-called identity politics in the u.s. to the extent that it focuses on non-white identity non-heterosexual sexual orientation etcetera it's very critical of so-called identity politics yet at the same time it's completely about white identity is that not a contradiction of sorts no I I think the alt-right is certainly willing to go there it's willing to criticize the left in a in a tougher manner than most conservatives we're certainly willing to point out the outrages of black lives matter and and and so on however I think I I would agree that you are getting to it's not really a contradiction it's maybe just something that's that's a bit surprising I think the the typical conservative response to say black lives matter or or say Islamic immigration into Europe primarily and so on is to say well why don't you dispense with all this identity politics white people have dispensed with identity politics so should you let's all become citizens and individuals and so on we don't see race and and and the like the old right is actually fundamentally different than that that doesn't mean that we're unwilling to criticise BLM or or or what-have-you but it's we we and the thing is the alt-right is not going to really advance unless we accept the fact that we are an identity movement we can criticize other identity movements but we need to in a way recognize them for what they are this is something new we don't we're not surprised by the fact that African Americans would ident to be a part of an identity Rhian movement like BLM we in a way understand them even if we're highly critical of their actions and and their in their policies so it you could also say that identitarian ism though that that word is is it's not very popular certainly not as popular as the alright identitarian ism is this new force in the world that is actually very strong people don't want to just become individuals people don't want just to become you know oh oh I'm just this one guy who lives here and I'm a citizen of the United States or a citizen of the world people want to be part of something bigger than themselves so identitarian movements whether that is you know Islamic communities that are that are affirming themselves in ways that are a great threat to the things that I care about that these are major forces in the world even the the the pussy the pink pussy March or the women's March whatever you want to call it that was a kind of identitarian movement I think what one thing that we recognize is that identitarian ism really works naturally and it actually can work peacefully let me let's not jump ahead because I want to get to that working peacefully part let's let's not preempt that so in order to get us into that let's talk about white nationalism you've said in a few interviews that what you would like is the United States to be a white ethnocentric nation does that mean whites only what I've said is that I imagine a post American world that would include a white ethno state that is a homeland for all Europeans from around the world would make more sense those two have those I mean in a we the the if we're gonna go sort of back to the sort of original population we're talking about Native Americans in the US would why why would it make sense then to make America a place that would be the homeland of white people your your you're misunderstanding what I just said okay I said I imagined a post American order that would be an ethnos state it is you could see it as analogous to the Jewish state of Israel that is it is a state that is a homeland for all Europeans so this would actually be a very new thing the the people who defined the United States were primarily Anglo Protestants who came over as colonists There is obviously a a a fraud bloody history on this continent but Anglo Protestants primarily define the United States after the Civil War I think the United States became more of a European country the idea of a melting pot is is fundamentally a European melting pot and it was often described explicitly as such what I am imagining is we are in a situation where the United States is fragmenting we are we are entering interesting times as the Chinese would say we're interesting dangerous times we're interesting we're entering fragmenting times I am putting forth a kind of dream as I've talked about it of what would come after this and that that is an ethnos state and it is utopian in a way in the sense that it doesn't exist right now it doesn't exist in here and now no I get it but you keep a conversation of focus as precisely as possible what would it involve the removal or leaving of non-white people from the US it would involve the establishment of a homeland for European people what that would entail I don't know because this is something in the future I think the question you're getting at is what do I want right now in the United States no no that's not the question but my question pacifically let me see if I can frame it different way if in this future white ethno state it would you learned that non white people were being rounded up and sent elsewhere we don't have to determine exactly where that would be is that something you would be okay with would that help to get us to the White Earth no state that you envision uh I would support peaceful you could say ethnic redistribution such as what was done and in the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 musical Afghan cleansing of the floor right I actually you know it's I I referred to the 1919 Paris Peace Conference as peaceful ethnic cleansing yes that's what it was and what you would want is something similar to brawls interesting again we're talking about something that that hasn't occurred yet we're talking about something in the future no I don't think that's really post American I don't see this as occurring I don't see as the world we living it living in right now certainly as leading towards this next ya know I think we can agree with that Ramos sort of like Nidhi Heidi I'm sorry Richard from a sort of nitty-gritty perspective just to sort of figure out where you are on some of these issues because you're you're very eloquent and well-spoken and sometimes it's it's very easy to sort of get lost in that something something Donald Trump is not so so able to do because of his lack of speaking skills are you opposed to something like an interracial relationship is that something if you see that is that are you two are you fine with that or do you say I'd rather not have interracial relationships here in our country I would rather not have interracial marriage I would rather not have I would rather not have interracial breeding and the reason why is because that kind of relationship is that if if we randomly interbred in in you know in the United States or in around the world that would entail the destruction of all races that would not just entail a danger to white people that would entail a danger to the coherence of Africans a danger to the governance of Chinese and so on it would ultimately entail the creation of a kind of new race a an amalgamation of everyone and that would be dissociated from their true cultures they'd be a dissociate from history they'd be dissociated from these millennia of families that preceded them I do not see that as a good thing absolutely not didn't you used to date Asian women though isn't that a contradiction it's not a contradiction yes Josh Harkins inand Mother Jones did insane amounts of research and yes lo and behold I had an Asian girlfriend once but so is that not a contradiction to your beliefs that there is like is interracial sex okay but not children like you could have sex with your girl no I'm not I'm not children with her I'm not saying that the fact is we all evolved in our life this this was ten years ago I see um we all I was a younger person I would not do that now no but so you would no longer date Asian women you're saying no no okay fair enough that was a decade ago it's you know we yeah okay let's talk about your voice about Jews I want to hear a little bit about your views about Jews are Jews white no Jews are not white Jews are Jews and if we define white as European that that is connected with the the peoples of Europe of you say Western civilization's really European civilization because it's not just of the West Jews are not European fundamentally they have a fundamental different consciousness a sense of themselves in a different story even European Ashkenazi Jews who are from Europe as you said that they're also not white know I include all three branches of the Jewish family the Mizrahim the Sephardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews no they are not white their consciousness is in a way anti assimilation to Gentiles we recently celebrated Hanukkah this past December are we are you part of that Oh what I know you mean the Jews reason I celebrated Hanukkah yeah Jews did yes I using that in general I see Hanako was recently celebrated yes this past December and Hanukkah is a celebration of resistance to the Greeks resistance to assimilation with the Greeks Jews have a fundamentally different story to tell about who they are then europeans and those those two stories are not really compatible now of course they're they're different stories within the european family you know Russians have a different way of thinking about themselves Scots have a different way of thinking about themselves Italians so on but but Jews really have a fundamentally different way of understanding who they are and I think effectively all Jews would agree with me in that sense Jews have had a contradictory relationship with Europeans where they have they have sometimes identified with whites I would say the trend now is for Jews not to identify themselves as white but I we're gonna take a break in a second but before we do that our Iranians white I mean Iranians are from Aryan people they're not Arabs they're not Africans or Iranians white yes we're getting in some complicated questions obviously they are indo-european and obviously they share fundament a fundamental basis I think it would be possible for Europeans and Persians to have a better collaboration so on but I would say that that where I'm coming from is more of a emphasis on European culture and and in Europeans in North America and European culture so you see European wire you see that's interesting you see European whites as being more sort of compatible in a sense with Iranians than with Eastern European Jews I look we're getting into some kind of technicalities to be honest he Persians and Europeans we do share a fun a foundation that is very deep that being said in terms of as an identity rien I would identify with Europe primarily not so much Persia and and the European world in North America but I'm just acknowledging the fact that there actually is a deeper foundation his remember identity is a very complicated thing it can go down very deep I would say that that that bond between Persians and Europeans it's almost so deep that the indo-european world that it's maybe not the best place to form a state or a coherent culture from I I think history has to you know play a part in this as well but I'm just acknowledging that fact I mean it's very interesting there's one of the most famous photographs of the 20th century is a National Geographic cover and you probably know what I'm referring to it's this it's actually an Afghan woman who is staring out at the camera she has green eyes and a hair color it's probably similar to mine you probably know the photograph I'm offering to the fact is she is Aryan yes in a deep sense but is she really European III think the the fact is she is a Muslim she's from a dramatically different historical context and geographic context so but this just gets at the the you know the complicated nature of identity you you can you can dive deeper and deeper and deeper and and and find some common bonds but sometimes those aren't the best places to start I'll say - all right let's let's take a quick break we're speaking with Richard Spencer all right calm we'll take a break and continue with him momentarily we're continuing with Richard Spencer who is the editor of alt-right calm president of the National Policy Institute he says he's okay with the term white national national list about himself we've been talking about that Richard what are your views on Jews and let me contextualize it in this way when I interviewed Glenn Miller who now is on death row for having tried to kill Jews to Jewish community centers in Kansas ultimately ended up killing Christians but his intent was to kill Jews when I interviewed him in 2010 he said that he personally hated me even though he didn't ever meet me merely because I am Jewish and it was sort of it had nothing to do with anything I had done just by being Jewish I was a problem to him and we could not get along what's your view on that I mean can you are you able to hang with Jews or if not if there is as you mentioned in our first segment such a sort of in congruence between European whites and Jewish identity what's tough about just hanging out with Jews like how does it manifest itself no I I would certainly strongly disagree with those sentiments and I would obviously strongly condemn at the actions that he allegedly engaged in well he's been found guilty he's no no Alec it's not alleged he's feeling he's on death row yeah been convicted yes been convicted no I I have a very different perspective on a on a personal level can I get along with you can we go have a beer of course we can we're having a productive discussion right now but the thing is we aren't just mere individuals I have people that I respect who are war Asians I've had interesting conversations with people of African descent I can get along with them but what we really need to think about these things are on a communitarian basis are societies that that are biracial or multiracial is this a way to achieve happiness first and is this a way to achieve true flourishing and I would say absolutely not biracial and multiracial societies are going to ultimately fragment are going to ultimately end in chaos and they're gonna they're gonna end in blood and tears and how would that ultimately how would that ultimately manifest like let's just carry out our example right so like I'm Jewish you know you see Jewish identity is fundamentally incompatible longer-term with European white identity and and and consider yourself a white nationalist have talked about this peaceful ethnic separation etc so if we're hanging out talk to me about the next step at which point it would become a problem for us it becomes a problem on a group level it it doesn't necessarily need to become a problem on an individual level as I said I I can I can talk with civilized people of all sorts of backgrounds but if we look at the history of Haiti if we look at the history of just Jews in the United States the fact that you still understand yourself as a Jew means that you your family York your community has resisted assimilation I understand why you want to resist and in what way I mean what I should buy let's break this down I want it I want to lose no longer be a Jew in what ways have I resisted assimilation beyond just saying I'm a Jew true assimilation would mean that you would not say that you are a Jew true assimilation would mean intermarriage the loss of your identity your religious identity and your ethnic identity that is what assimilation will ultimately entail and you have resisted that I understand why you would want to I understand why you would want to maintain your family and your traditions I respect you for it sure but beyond beyond saying that by merely mentioning that I'm Jewish I have resisted assimilation beyond just the the the sort of signaling of identity is there any practical way in which I've not assimilated into American society you've obviously simulated into American society to a great extent we're speaking English I'm sure you you like a lot of the same things that Americans like in terms of minor things but the fact is Jews in the United States have a a precise identity they understand themselves as Jews they see the world very differently than a white person in Wyoming or or or or Mississippi you have a different consciousness of the world the Jewish experience in the United States and North America has been very different from the experience of my people from the experience of other Europeans but what would be an example of that Richard so obviously I'm likely to have as a northeast liberal I'm likely to have significant political differences with someone from Wyoming for example but aside from political differences that we could have regardless of whether I'm Jewish or not in what ways are we are we fundamentally at odds the Jewish experience in the United States has been a fraught one it is certainly one that has involved anti-semitism on the behalf of many groups on behalf of elite groups there you see be a kind of wasp elite class that was to a large extent alder not not 100% anti-semitic or or it's or at the very least aware of Jewish identity they wanted to prevent Jews from entering institutions although they ultimately back down on that matter the Jewish Jewish experience has also been different in the sense that it's been kind of conflicted you could say yeah but Richard I'm sorry to interrupt but I'm really trying to drill down with our audience for you initially said I've assimilated enough to be able to sort of exist in American society but that because of my Jewish identity there are still significant areas of I guess we could call them friction with for example someone from some European white person who lives in Wyoming without getting into historical generalities aside from my political differences as a liberal with like a conservative from Wyoming what specifically can you point to that makes it evident that we're just not really compatible I again I think what the problem here is that I actually am talking in terms of geni generalities because history takes place in terms of generalities it takes place in terms of nations and peoples and civilizations you're talking in terms of individualism if you came and and had a beer with someone in Wyoming I'm sure it would all be fine because you're a a civilized upright individual yeah but the fact is history doesn't work that way we have this liberal bias where we want to see people as individuals and that's a good thing in many ways but it's not actually a good thing in terms of understanding history Jewish consciousness and I'm gonna paint in broad strokes here because obviously we're having conversation Jewish consciousness in the United States has actually been deeply conflicted it's on the one hand it has pointed towards Israel as a and I'm talking about more recent Jewish the more recent Jewish experience its pointed towards Israel as a fundamental homeland as a Israel has a claim on the heart of millions of Jews here in a way that it simply does not on any Gentile that is a foreign power that has a claim on Jews here that would simply not exist if this were a a European Christian nation this is often led to a kind of conflict in terms of consciousness where elite Jews intellectual Jews have been at the vanguard of promoting many liberal and left-wing policies they event at the vanguard at promoting things like civil rights they've been the vanguard of my civil rights immigration yeah what hey it's just it's interesting to see this couched in this way as if these are such incompatibilities Jews like many groups have been at the forefront of promoting civil rights I just am not seeing that even now going from the individual realities are the jus the same Jews that would promote mass emigration to towards the United States and even towards Europe would not promote the same kinds of policies in Israel the fact is Israel is an ethnos state it is a Jewish state it is a it is a jewish nationalist order in the Middle East Jews do not view the United States is that and indeed many Jews view someone like myself as is inherently bad for the Jews is hostile towards the Jews because I have a different view of what the world should be then as a kind of liberal mass immigration multicultural world many Jews feel more comfortable in a world that is based on liberal ideology based on civil rights based on mass immigration they feel less comfortable in the world in a world that is based on European identity for the simple reason that even if Jews have assimilated to a great extent they are still fundamentally Jews okay I do alright let me put a pause on this just because I can tell where we may not get further than we've gotten so far I think people maybe have a sense of where you're coming from on this let's talk about this weekend and I want to talk about Trump a little bit so this weekend you were at an inauguration related event and you you were punched someone while you were given an interview you actually came up and and it basically I think there's no other way to say it then just sucker-punched you it wasn't clear whether whether you even saw it coming what exactly happened here to the best of your understanding yes I I was luckily not knocked out but I have suffered a mild concussion I have a busted eardrum I mean I'm going to be fine I have a black eyes you can see but I'm going to be fine but it but it was a physical assault it was a totally outrageous one because it was a sucker punch I was looking the other way the guy came out of nowhere and ran off what happened is that I was actually with two photojournalist and we kind of documented my experience of the inauguration I I was up fairly close and and then we were walking home and I was actually we're gonna just walk to a restaurant we were not walking towards any kind of protest but we just happened upon this so-called black bloc protest that is people who had identified themselves as anarchist and while I was there there's a woman who screamed my name out in vain you know Richard Spencer and after that happened eight people circled around me and some of them were a bit impolite they were screaming at me there were a couple of people that I was actually talking with and I'm I've done this before you know kind of engaging with enemies you know there's there's some sarcasm and and then back and forth but I actually will listen to them so you do see the Messiah that happened and it well I'm advocating of course their enemy they fundamentally disagree with me politically yeah sure okay so I was yeah III then I was I was actually while I was speaking with one this this I I think it's the same person who did this he came in on nowhere and he actually punched me in the face and it was a kind of glancing blow even though he gave me a black eye and then he ran off which is what they always do and after that happened an Australian broadcast company came up and started speaking with me and I was giving an interview to them they're asking a couple questions this guy and I think it's the same person he came back and he hit me in the side of the head so you know as is clear in this video that's you know been retweeted a million times now I I was looking at the camera speaking and he came out of nowhere and hit me with his forearm across the head I was thrown back and of course he ran off yeah again so yeah it was a totally outrageous sucker punch you were at the inauguration when when Trump says stuff like America first for example which is a slogan that the anti-defamation league has suggested he not used because of its references to you too to anti-semitic context in which it was previously used etc I mean do you like that from trauma yes I do but but but it's a it's a complicated matter first off America first was not an anti-semitic group at all there was a group called America first that opposed the United States entrance into the Second World War yes but on the basis that it was a Jewish interest not trying to pull the United States in for their own benefit I mean it was fundamentally anti-semitic and it's at its core it was not fundamentally anti-semitic I mean we might just disagree with I think we were interpretation yeah but it is it was not fundamentally anti-semitic the the acknowledgement that Jews have interests that is not fundamentally anti-semitic I acknowledge that Cubans have interest it's just being realistic but anyway no I'm very happy to hear Trump say things like America first i we would not have heard that certainly from Barack Obama no we wouldn't have heard that from Jeb or Ted Cruz so I think this is a positive development I think the the arrow of Donald Trump is pointing in the direction of identity politics and I think that's a very very good thing okay so on that note and I really want to get to the Nitty Gritty on this because there's so many different views on this from Alt alt rightists so to speak how much do you really think that is part of the white nationalist agenda might be accomplished under Trump and the other question I have and hopefully we can get to these somewhat succinctly is how do you rationalize Trump having Jewish daughter son-in-law and grandchildren with the identitarian of identity politics stuff that is compatible with your white nationalism do you just sort of ignore that or excuse it I don't ignore it all I'm saying is that Trump seems to be moving in this direction Trump is not going to be a an all a true all right president excuse me he's just simply not going to be that but is this movement is his civic nationalism pointing in our direction I would say yes because history is pointing the direction of identitarian ISM now Trump again he is not saying he is not a white nationalist he actually explicitly said and a rather cliched terms I think Stephen Miller should up his game a little bit to be honest but whatever color we are we all bleed red white and blue you know something from a 1980s action movie you paste that right i mean that's just vile to a white nationalist so it's not vile it's it's it's rather red brother lame yeah but what he is saying is a kind of civic nationalism I think Trump is though he is kind of pointing towards identitarian ISM I think in another level and maybe in a primary way he is a last-gasp of American civic nationalism a last-gasp of the American civic nationalism of the mid twentieth century and that was remember a in an overwhelmingly white country that was a eighty-five to ninety percent white in terms of his population but it was 100 percent white in terms of its culture popular and high culture and so on he's gesturing towards that he is krump is retrograde in a way he's trying to revive civic nationalism from the mid twentieth century I don't think that will work for a number of reasons first off I think Civic nationalist identity is impossible in a multiracial country but I think more than that civic nationalism of of the trumpian variety is viewed as unbearably white by White's by many Jews by many people who are our left-wing or liberal they view it quite correctly as an avatar it's a as an avatar of identity politics is a kind of white America reasserting itself so in this way Trump is is a white nationalist so to speak he's alright whether he likes it or not and I and I don't mean that in a sense that he consciously explicitly agrees with me he doesn't but I mean that in the sense that his version of civic nationalism is just irredeemably white from the viewpoint of people who see the future of America as a kind of neutral platform for the world is a multiracial multicultural country that has no real identity of its own so Trump is caught in this contradiction he's trying to be raceless but he's being extremely racial at the same time well I think you've explained very well how this analysis that while Trump is not a white nationalist his rhetoric has really interested many white nationalists so what better who better than a white nationalist to explain it to us Richard we are out of time but real quick or well I heard that you will you denounced Adolf Hitler I heard you don't denounced Adolf Hitler when asked about that Adolf National Socialism was it was a it was a disaster the 20th century was a pretty much a disaster for you but do you denounce the action of Adolf Hitler I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna play this game oh it's not again throw out historical figures and I denounce them I mean do you denounce Stalin do you announce Pol Pot I mean look yeah the the National Socialist Germany it's part of history it's it's not who I am no I'm not asking if Hitler is part of history but so you don't denounce Hitler when asked is what you're saying IIIi don't play this game of denunciation well but calling it again is a game that's a game call it a game what to call it a game is playing a game do you condemn the KKK the KKK I mean yeah you've heard of it again are you like try if you've not heard of that look the the the KKK I mean I don't know how if we have time to talk about this I mean the the KKK of the 19th century KKK has nothing to do with where we are now it's a historical thing the 20 the 2nd Klan was not engaged in violence by the way it was a kind of Americanist group okay so you don't announce ready that's okay I mean I'm just asking I'm not going to denounce there are no historical things I got it don't really have any resonance to where we are if someone if someone in my movement you ever claimed that he was going to engage in violence I would denounce him in a second all right well we'll hold you to that I'm not gonna be burdened by history okay uh interesting reaction I think that there's a lot to to glean from that Richard Spencer editor of alright calm president of the National Policy Institute I think we've learned a lot today I don't know that we've done much to foster better race relations but ultimately we know that that's not really the goal of Richard Spencer it's to achieve a peaceful separation I think is where we've determined you land is that a is it fair to sum up in that way I disagree with everything that you just said actually I think having a respect I I think having hold on I think having a respectful rational discussion yeah is the best way for there to be good relations between people who have different views sucker-punching me is not going to going to be the way to do it that we can agree on is that I think it's good that we can end on the note which is I agree sucker-punching you on the street is not going to help anything or anyone thank you all right Richard Spencer thank you so much I'm joined today by Richard Spencer who's the editor of alt-right comm and president of the National Policy Institute Richard I know you've had a busy inauguration weekend and we'll talk about that a little bit I want to just first start for people who may not know your sort of political philosophy in preparing for this interview I read about a lot of terms that are ascribed to you many of which I think you don't agree with so let's just see if we can figure out sort of how you describe your political philosophy do you consider yourself to be any of the following white nationalist white separatist neo-nazi nazi white supremacist do any of those terms apply to how you see yourself I think white nationalist would be the term that I'm most comfortable with the term that I identify with is identitarian and to just sum that up most concisely that means that identity is the foundation of thinking about politics thinking about culture thinking about society so that that question who are we yeah is the first question we ask before we ask other questions like what should our economic policy be what do we think about culture what do we think about foreign policy and so on when you and I think in a recent interview I think multiple times you've taken credit for creating the sort of concept of alright or alternative right I mean I just want to get that on record in our interview before I asked questions based on it you do take credit for that yes I I do take credit for that in in the summer of 2008 I started using this term and alternative right or even the alternative right and at that time it was much more vague than it is today because I think I've evolved you know a little bit and I think the term has evolved in parallel but at that time I would say the the alternative right was a big tent of people who wanted to get away from the conservatism of the time we wanted to get away from george w bush we wanted to get away from the iraq war we wanted to get away from all the things that define the right in the 2000s and so at that time that the term was out you could say a bit looser as things have gone on I have developed my own identitarian philosophy that of course you know I identify in that philosophy as an ideology emerged in in Europe I've developed my own version of it you could say I certainly identify with that movement and it's interesting because the the alt-right is evolved as well and I think the alt-right has evolved at this point where it really is an identity movement it lets in I didn't say that because on the one hand one of the aspects that's very common and the thing is you know the alt-right is a somewhat amorphous movement its borders are not super clearly defined it's it's sort of a self self-professed thing but I'm good actually one of the the aspects that I've noticed is that the alt-right generally is very critical of what we've come to know is so-called identity politics in the u.s. to the extent that it focuses on non-white identity non-heterosexual sexual orientation etcetera it's very critical of so-called identity politics yet at the same time it's completely about white identity is that not a contradiction of sorts no I I think the alt-right is certainly willing to go there it's willing to criticize the left in a in a tougher manner than most conservatives we're certainly willing to point out the outrages of black lives matter and and and so on however I think I I would agree that you are getting to it's not really a contradiction it's maybe just something that's that's a bit surprising I think the the typical conservative response to say black lives matter or or say Islamic immigration into Europe primarily and so on is to say well why don't you dispense with all this identity politics white people have dispensed with identity politics so should you let's all become citizens and individuals and so on we don't see race and and and the like the old right is actually fundamentally different than that that doesn't mean that we're unwilling to criticise BLM or or or what-have-you but it's we we and the thing is the alt-right is not going to really advance unless we accept the fact that we are an identity movement we can criticize other identity movements but we need to in a way recognize them for what they are this is something new we don't we're not surprised by the fact that African Americans would ident to be a part of an identity Rhian movement like BLM we in a way understand them even if we're highly critical of their actions and and their in their policies so it you could also say that identitarian ism though that that word is is it's not very popular certainly not as popular as the alright identitarian ism is this new force in the world that is actually very strong people don't want to just become individuals people don't want just to become you know oh oh I'm just this one guy who lives here and I'm a citizen of the United States or a citizen of the world people want to be part of something bigger than themselves so identitarian movements whether that is you know Islamic communities that are that are affirming themselves in ways that are a great threat to the things that I care about that these are major forces in the world even the the the pussy the pink pussy March or the women's March whatever you want to call it that was a kind of identitarian movement I think what one thing that we recognize is that identitarian ism really works naturally and it actually can work peacefully let me let's not jump ahead because I want to get to that working peacefully part let's let's not preempt that so in order to get us into that let's talk about white nationalism you've said in a few interviews that what you would like is the United States to be a white ethnocentric nation does that mean whites only what I've said is that I imagine a post American world that would include a white ethno state that is a homeland for all Europeans from around the world would make more sense those two have those I mean in a we the the if we're gonna go sort of back to the sort of original population we're talking about Native Americans in the US would why why would it make sense then to make America a place that would be the homeland of white people your your you're misunderstanding what I just said okay I said I imagined a post American order that would be an ethnos state it is you could see it as analogous to the Jewish state of Israel that is it is a state that is a homeland for all Europeans so this would actually be a very new thing the the people who defined the United States were primarily Anglo Protestants who came over as colonists There is obviously a a a fraud bloody history on this continent but Anglo Protestants primarily define the United States after the Civil War I think the United States became more of a European country the idea of a melting pot is is fundamentally a European melting pot and it was often described explicitly as such what I am imagining is we are in a situation where the United States is fragmenting we are we are entering interesting times as the Chinese would say we're interesting dangerous times we're interesting we're entering fragmenting times I am putting forth a kind of dream as I've talked about it of what would come after this and that that is an ethnos state and it is utopian in a way in the sense that it doesn't exist right now it doesn't exist in here and now no I get it but you keep a conversation of focus as precisely as possible what would it involve the removal or leaving of non-white people from the US it would involve the establishment of a homeland for European people what that would entail I don't know because this is something in the future I think the question you're getting at is what do I want right now in the United States no no that's not the question but my question pacifically let me see if I can frame it different way if in this future white ethno state it would you learned that non white people were being rounded up and sent elsewhere we don't have to determine exactly where that would be is that something you would be okay with would that help to get us to the White Earth no state that you envision uh I would support peaceful you could say ethnic redistribution such as what was done and in the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 musical Afghan cleansing of the floor right I actually you know it's I I referred to the 1919 Paris Peace Conference as peaceful ethnic cleansing yes that's what it was and what you would want is something similar to brawls interesting again we're talking about something that that hasn't occurred yet we're talking about something in the future no I don't think that's really post American I don't see this as occurring I don't see as the world we living it living in right now certainly as leading towards this next ya know I think we can agree with that Ramos sort of like Nidhi Heidi I'm sorry Richard from a sort of nitty-gritty perspective just to sort of figure out where you are on some of these issues because you're you're very eloquent and well-spoken and sometimes it's it's very easy to sort of get lost in that something something Donald Trump is not so so able to do because of his lack of speaking skills are you opposed to something like an interracial relationship is that something if you see that is that are you two are you fine with that or do you say I'd rather not have interracial relationships here in our country I would rather not have interracial marriage I would rather not have I would rather not have interracial breeding and the reason why is because that kind of relationship is that if if we randomly interbred in in you know in the United States or in around the world that would entail the destruction of all races that would not just entail a danger to white people that would entail a danger to the coherence of Africans a danger to the governance of Chinese and so on it would ultimately entail the creation of a kind of new race a an amalgamation of everyone and that would be dissociated from their true cultures they'd be a dissociate from history they'd be dissociated from these millennia of families that preceded them I do not see that as a good thing absolutely not didn't you used to date Asian women though isn't that a contradiction it's not a contradiction yes Josh Harkins inand Mother Jones did insane amounts of research and yes lo and behold I had an Asian girlfriend once but so is that not a contradiction to your beliefs that there is like is interracial sex okay but not children like you could have sex with your girl no I'm not I'm not children with her I'm not saying that the fact is we all evolved in our life this this was ten years ago I see um we all I was a younger person I would not do that now no but so you would no longer date Asian women you're saying no no okay fair enough that was a decade ago it's you know we yeah okay let's talk about your voice about Jews I want to hear a little bit about your views about Jews are Jews white no Jews are not white Jews are Jews and if we define white as European that that is connected with the the peoples of Europe of you say Western civilization's really European civilization because it's not just of the West Jews are not European fundamentally they have a fundamental different consciousness a sense of themselves in a different story even European Ashkenazi Jews who are from Europe as you said that they're also not white know I include all three branches of the Jewish family the Mizrahim the Sephardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews no they are not white their consciousness is in a way anti assimilation to Gentiles we recently celebrated Hanukkah this past December are we are you part of that Oh what I know you mean the Jews reason I celebrated Hanukkah yeah Jews did yes I using that in general I see Hanako was recently celebrated yes this past December and Hanukkah is a celebration of resistance to the Greeks resistance to assimilation with the Greeks Jews have a fundamentally different story to tell about who they are then europeans and those those two stories are not really compatible now of course they're they're different stories within the european family you know Russians have a different way of thinking about themselves Scots have a different way of thinking about themselves Italians so on but but Jews really have a fundamentally different way of understanding who they are and I think effectively all Jews would agree with me in that sense Jews have had a contradictory relationship with Europeans where they have they have sometimes identified with whites I would say the trend now is for Jews not to identify themselves as white but I we're gonna take a break in a second but before we do that our Iranians white I mean Iranians are from Aryan people they're not Arabs they're not Africans or Iranians white yes we're getting in some complicated questions obviously they are indo-european and obviously they share fundament a fundamental basis I think it would be possible for Europeans and Persians to have a better collaboration so on but I would say that that where I'm coming from is more of a emphasis on European culture and and in Europeans in North America and European culture so you see European wire you see that's interesting you see European whites as being more sort of compatible in a sense with Iranians than with Eastern European Jews I look we're getting into some kind of technicalities to be honest he Persians and Europeans we do share a fun a foundation that is very deep that being said in terms of as an identity rien I would identify with Europe primarily not so much Persia and and the European world in North America but I'm just acknowledging the fact that there actually is a deeper foundation his remember identity is a very complicated thing it can go down very deep I would say that that that bond between Persians and Europeans it's almost so deep that the indo-european world that it's maybe not the best place to form a state or a coherent culture from I I think history has to you know play a part in this as well but I'm just acknowledging that fact I mean it's very interesting there's one of the most famous photographs of the 20th century is a National Geographic cover and you probably know what I'm referring to it's this it's actually an Afghan woman who is staring out at the camera she has green eyes and a hair color it's probably similar to mine you probably know the photograph I'm offering to the fact is she is Aryan yes in a deep sense but is she really European III think the the fact is she is a Muslim she's from a dramatically different historical context and geographic context so but this just gets at the the you know the complicated nature of identity you you can you can dive deeper and deeper and deeper and and and find some common bonds but sometimes those aren't the best places to start I'll say - all right let's let's take a quick break we're speaking with Richard Spencer all right calm we'll take a break and continue with him momentarily we're continuing with Richard Spencer who is the editor of alt-right calm president of the National Policy Institute he says he's okay with the term white national national list about himself we've been talking about that Richard what are your views on Jews and let me contextualize it in this way when I interviewed Glenn Miller who now is on death row for having tried to kill Jews to Jewish community centers in Kansas ultimately ended up killing Christians but his intent was to kill Jews when I interviewed him in 2010 he said that he personally hated me even though he didn't ever meet me merely because I am Jewish and it was sort of it had nothing to do with anything I had done just by being Jewish I was a problem to him and we could not get along what's your view on that I mean can you are you able to hang with Jews or if not if there is as you mentioned in our first segment such a sort of in congruence between European whites and Jewish identity what's tough about just hanging out with Jews like how does it manifest itself no I I would certainly strongly disagree with those sentiments and I would obviously strongly condemn at the actions that he allegedly engaged in well he's been found guilty he's no no Alec it's not alleged he's feeling he's on death row yeah been convicted yes been convicted no I I have a very different perspective on a on a personal level can I get along with you can we go have a beer of course we can we're having a productive discussion right now but the thing is we aren't just mere individuals I have people that I respect who are war Asians I've had interesting conversations with people of African descent I can get along with them but what we really need to think about these things are on a communitarian basis are societies that that are biracial or multiracial is this a way to achieve happiness first and is this a way to achieve true flourishing and I would say absolutely not biracial and multiracial societies are going to ultimately fragment are going to ultimately end in chaos and they're gonna they're gonna end in blood and tears and how would that ultimately how would that ultimately manifest like let's just carry out our example right so like I'm Jewish you know you see Jewish identity is fundamentally incompatible longer-term with European white identity and and and consider yourself a white nationalist have talked about this peaceful ethnic separation etc so if we're hanging out talk to me about the next step at which point it would become a problem for us it becomes a problem on a group level it it doesn't necessarily need to become a problem on an individual level as I said I I can I can talk with civilized people of all sorts of backgrounds but if we look at the history of Haiti if we look at the history of just Jews in the United States the fact that you still understand yourself as a Jew means that you your family York your community has resisted assimilation I understand why you want to resist and in what way I mean what I should buy let's break this down I want it I want to lose no longer be a Jew in what ways have I resisted assimilation beyond just saying I'm a Jew true assimilation would mean that you would not say that you are a Jew true assimilation would mean intermarriage the loss of your identity your religious identity and your ethnic identity that is what assimilation will ultimately entail and you have resisted that I understand why you would want to I understand why you would want to maintain your family and your traditions I respect you for it sure but beyond beyond saying that by merely mentioning that I'm Jewish I have resisted assimilation beyond just the the the sort of signaling of identity is there any practical way in which I've not assimilated into American society you've obviously simulated into American society to a great extent we're speaking English I'm sure you you like a lot of the same things that Americans like in terms of minor things but the fact is Jews in the United States have a a precise identity they understand themselves as Jews they see the world very differently than a white person in Wyoming or or or or Mississippi you have a different consciousness of the world the Jewish experience in the United States and North America has been very different from the experience of my people from the experience of other Europeans but what would be an example of that Richard so obviously I'm likely to have as a northeast liberal I'm likely to have significant political differences with someone from Wyoming for example but aside from political differences that we could have regardless of whether I'm Jewish or not in what ways are we are we fundamentally at odds the Jewish experience in the United States has been a fraught one it is certainly one that has involved anti-semitism on the behalf of many groups on behalf of elite groups there you see be a kind of wasp elite class that was to a large extent alder not not 100% anti-semitic or or it's or at the very least aware of Jewish identity they wanted to prevent Jews from entering institutions although they ultimately back down on that matter the Jewish Jewish experience has also been different in the sense that it's been kind of conflicted you could say yeah but Richard I'm sorry to interrupt but I'm really trying to drill down with our audience for you initially said I've assimilated enough to be able to sort of exist in American society but that because of my Jewish identity there are still significant areas of I guess we could call them friction with for example someone from some European white person who lives in Wyoming without getting into historical generalities aside from my political differences as a liberal with like a conservative from Wyoming what specifically can you point to that makes it evident that we're just not really compatible I again I think what the problem here is that I actually am talking in terms of geni generalities because history takes place in terms of generalities it takes place in terms of nations and peoples and civilizations you're talking in terms of individualism if you came and and had a beer with someone in Wyoming I'm sure it would all be fine because you're a a civilized upright individual yeah but the fact is history doesn't work that way we have this liberal bias where we want to see people as individuals and that's a good thing in many ways but it's not actually a good thing in terms of understanding history Jewish consciousness and I'm gonna paint in broad strokes here because obviously we're having conversation Jewish consciousness in the United States has actually been deeply conflicted it's on the one hand it has pointed towards Israel as a and I'm talking about more recent Jewish the more recent Jewish experience its pointed towards Israel as a fundamental homeland as a Israel has a claim on the heart of millions of Jews here in a way that it simply does not on any Gentile that is a foreign power that has a claim on Jews here that would simply not exist if this were a a European Christian nation this is often led to a kind of conflict in terms of consciousness where elite Jews intellectual Jews have been at the vanguard of promoting many liberal and left-wing policies they event at the vanguard at promoting things like civil rights they've been the vanguard of my civil rights immigration yeah what hey it's just it's interesting to see this couched in this way as if these are such incompatibilities Jews like many groups have been at the forefront of promoting civil rights I just am not seeing that even now going from the individual realities are the jus the same Jews that would promote mass emigration to towards the United States and even towards Europe would not promote the same kinds of policies in Israel the fact is Israel is an ethnos state it is a Jewish state it is a it is a jewish nationalist order in the Middle East Jews do not view the United States is that and indeed many Jews view someone like myself as is inherently bad for the Jews is hostile towards the Jews because I have a different view of what the world should be then as a kind of liberal mass immigration multicultural world many Jews feel more comfortable in a world that is based on liberal ideology based on civil rights based on mass immigration they feel less comfortable in the world in a world that is based on European identity for the simple reason that even if Jews have assimilated to a great extent they are still fundamentally Jews okay I do alright let me put a pause on this just because I can tell where we may not get further than we've gotten so far I think people maybe have a sense of where you're coming from on this let's talk about this weekend and I want to talk about Trump a little bit so this weekend you were at an inauguration related event and you you were punched someone while you were given an interview you actually came up and and it basically I think there's no other way to say it then just sucker-punched you it wasn't clear whether whether you even saw it coming what exactly happened here to the best of your understanding yes I I was luckily not knocked out but I have suffered a mild concussion I have a busted eardrum I mean I'm going to be fine I have a black eyes you can see but I'm going to be fine but it but it was a physical assault it was a totally outrageous one because it was a sucker punch I was looking the other way the guy came out of nowhere and ran off what happened is that I was actually with two photojournalist and we kind of documented my experience of the inauguration I I was up fairly close and and then we were walking home and I was actually we're gonna just walk to a restaurant we were not walking towards any kind of protest but we just happened upon this so-called black bloc protest that is people who had identified themselves as anarchist and while I was there there's a woman who screamed my name out in vain you know Richard Spencer and after that happened eight people circled around me and some of them were a bit impolite they were screaming at me there were a couple of people that I was actually talking with and I'm I've done this before you know kind of engaging with enemies you know there's there's some sarcasm and and then back and forth but I actually will listen to them so you do see the Messiah that happened and it well I'm advocating of course their enemy they fundamentally disagree with me politically yeah sure okay so I was yeah III then I was I was actually while I was speaking with one this this I I think it's the same person who did this he came in on nowhere and he actually punched me in the face and it was a kind of glancing blow even though he gave me a black eye and then he ran off which is what they always do and after that happened an Australian broadcast company came up and started speaking with me and I was giving an interview to them they're asking a couple questions this guy and I think it's the same person he came back and he hit me in the side of the head so you know as is clear in this video that's you know been retweeted a million times now I I was looking at the camera speaking and he came out of nowhere and hit me with his forearm across the head I was thrown back and of course he ran off yeah again so yeah it was a totally outrageous sucker punch you were at the inauguration when when Trump says stuff like America first for example which is a slogan that the anti-defamation league has suggested he not used because of its references to you too to anti-semitic context in which it was previously used etc I mean do you like that from trauma yes I do but but but it's a it's a complicated matter first off America first was not an anti-semitic group at all there was a group called America first that opposed the United States entrance into the Second World War yes but on the basis that it was a Jewish interest not trying to pull the United States in for their own benefit I mean it was fundamentally anti-semitic and it's at its core it was not fundamentally anti-semitic I mean we might just disagree with I think we were interpretation yeah but it is it was not fundamentally anti-semitic the the acknowledgement that Jews have interests that is not fundamentally anti-semitic I acknowledge that Cubans have interest it's just being realistic but anyway no I'm very happy to hear Trump say things like America first i we would not have heard that certainly from Barack Obama no we wouldn't have heard that from Jeb or Ted Cruz so I think this is a positive development I think the the arrow of Donald Trump is pointing in the direction of identity politics and I think that's a very very good thing okay so on that note and I really want to get to the Nitty Gritty on this because there's so many different views on this from Alt alt rightists so to speak how much do you really think that is part of the white nationalist agenda might be accomplished under Trump and the other question I have and hopefully we can get to these somewhat succinctly is how do you rationalize Trump having Jewish daughter son-in-law and grandchildren with the identitarian of identity politics stuff that is compatible with your white nationalism do you just sort of ignore that or excuse it I don't ignore it all I'm saying is that Trump seems to be moving in this direction Trump is not going to be a an all a true all right president excuse me he's just simply not going to be that but is this movement is his civic nationalism pointing in our direction I would say yes because history is pointing the direction of identitarian ISM now Trump again he is not saying he is not a white nationalist he actually explicitly said and a rather cliched terms I think Stephen Miller should up his game a little bit to be honest but whatever color we are we all bleed red white and blue you know something from a 1980s action movie you paste that right i mean that's just vile to a white nationalist so it's not vile it's it's it's rather red brother lame yeah but what he is saying is a kind of civic nationalism I think Trump is though he is kind of pointing towards identitarian ISM I think in another level and maybe in a primary way he is a last-gasp of American civic nationalism a last-gasp of the American civic nationalism of the mid twentieth century and that was remember a in an overwhelmingly white country that was a eighty-five to ninety percent white in terms of his population but it was 100 percent white in terms of its culture popular and high culture and so on he's gesturing towards that he is krump is retrograde in a way he's trying to revive civic nationalism from the mid twentieth century I don't think that will work for a number of reasons first off I think Civic nationalist identity is impossible in a multiracial country but I think more than that civic nationalism of of the trumpian variety is viewed as unbearably white by White's by many Jews by many people who are our left-wing or liberal they view it quite correctly as an avatar it's a as an avatar of identity politics is a kind of white America reasserting itself so in this way Trump is is a white nationalist so to speak he's alright whether he likes it or not and I and I don't mean that in a sense that he consciously explicitly agrees with me he doesn't but I mean that in the sense that his version of civic nationalism is just irredeemably white from the viewpoint of people who see the future of America as a kind of neutral platform for the world is a multiracial multicultural country that has no real identity of its own so Trump is caught in this contradiction he's trying to be raceless but he's being extremely racial at the same time well I think you've explained very well how this analysis that while Trump is not a white nationalist his rhetoric has really interested many white nationalists so what better who better than a white nationalist to explain it to us Richard we are out of time but real quick or well I heard that you will you denounced Adolf Hitler I heard you don't denounced Adolf Hitler when asked about that Adolf National Socialism was it was a it was a disaster the 20th century was a pretty much a disaster for you but do you denounce the action of Adolf Hitler I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna play this game oh it's not again throw out historical figures and I denounce them I mean do you denounce Stalin do you announce Pol Pot I mean look yeah the the National Socialist Germany it's part of history it's it's not who I am no I'm not asking if Hitler is part of history but so you don't denounce Hitler when asked is what you're saying IIIi don't play this game of denunciation well but calling it again is a game that's a game call it a game what to call it a game is playing a game do you condemn the KKK the KKK I mean yeah you've heard of it again are you like try if you've not heard of that look the the the KKK I mean I don't know how if we have time to talk about this I mean the the KKK of the 19th century KKK has nothing to do with where we are now it's a historical thing the 20 the 2nd Klan was not engaged in violence by the way it was a kind of Americanist group okay so you don't announce ready that's okay I mean I'm just asking I'm not going to denounce there are no historical things I got it don't really have any resonance to where we are if someone if someone in my movement you ever claimed that he was going to engage in violence I would denounce him in a second all right well we'll hold you to that I'm not gonna be burdened by history okay uh interesting reaction I think that there's a lot to to glean from that Richard Spencer editor of alright calm president of the National Policy Institute I think we've learned a lot today I don't know that we've done much to foster better race relations but ultimately we know that that's not really the goal of Richard Spencer it's to achieve a peaceful separation I think is where we've determined you land is that a is it fair to sum up in that way I disagree with everything that you just said actually I think having a respect I I think having hold on I think having a respectful rational discussion yeah is the best way for there to be good relations between people who have different views sucker-punching me is not going to going to be the way to do it that we can agree on is that I think it's good that we can end on the note which is I agree sucker-punching you on the street is not going to help anything or anyone thank you all right Richard Spencer thank you so much
 
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ICametoLurk said:
Spencer was mentored by a Jew, his wife is a Russian Propagandist, and he was BFFs with the Bushes.
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Really makes you think what WEEV said about him and whether or not those failures were intentional.

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just another way to proclaim that you deserve good rewards without actually doing anything to earn them.
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Like African American gentlemen with welfare and white women?
 
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Arabs can be pretty white, especially half-Arabs. Just look at Steve Jobs. Guy's half-Arab, but looks pretty damn white. Wentworth Miller, Jerry Seinfeld, Vince Vaughn... Spencer might be on to something, but he's still one of (((them))).
 
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Kools are low class, project cigarettes. If you're going to smoke a menthol, stick with Newports like you said or even upgrade to Benson & Hedges. I don't even like menthols but I can handle either of those.
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I used to smoke Benson & Hedges menthols every now and again. Also Dunhill although I preferred the reds.
 
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Just as an aside that is relevant to this topic, for the first 21 years of my life when I lived in the city where the demographics were virtually a 50/50 split between white and black, I never saw interracial couples. You would think it would be commonplace due to the numbers of whites and blacks living in the same area, but it just doesn't happen. Everyone sticks with their own. Once in a blue moon you MIGHT run into a white guy dating a black girl or vice versa, but it was extremely uncommon.

It was such a rarity that I still vividly remember the first time I ever saw an interracial couple eating at a restaurant together when I was a teenager. It didn't seem to bother anybody and I didn't notice anybody staring. Everybody was just eating, having drinks, and socializing just the same as you'd see in any restaurant. It was just interesting to see something like that because it was so unusual where I lived.

Another stereotype that I used to believed was the idea of rural people having a problem with outsiders, especially black folks, since in those small communities everyone knows everybody else's family going back generations. I thought this would make them extremely unwelcoming to outsiders, especially "city-folk" like me, and you constantly hear about how prejudiced, bigoted, and hateful they are towards black people.

When I moved away from the city to a much smaller town, surrounding by dairy farms, cows, horses, etc. they welcomed me almost immediately. Sure, they all had to ask where I was from because of my accent, but they were pretty solid as far as neighbors go. I've never experienced anything like that in my life. Everybody waves to you when you pass them and people will actually stop if they see you walking and offer to give you a ride. This has happened to me about 8 times since I moved here, compared to zero times in the city lol.

And as far as blacks go, I've never in my entire life seen so many interracial couples. It's like, the people around here don't even give a damn. They are more interested in their sons and daughters choosing a good spouse based on character rather than merely judging them based on what they look like.

My theory is that in the country, the whites and the blacks grew up so close to one another for so long that they got used to each other. They have them as neighbors, coworkers, their kids go to school together, etc.

This just further proves how misguided and cretinous the American media's reporting is. It seems like anytime you turn on the news, there is some lily-white news anchor trying to instigate animosity in order to manufacture a fictitious divide between Americans. The click bait "online journalists" (it pains me to even call them journalists) are even more awful. Much, much worse than what you see on the major news networks, which is no easy feat to surpass the absolute drivel they put out there.

I seriously wonder how these people live with themselves, knowing that they are spreading misinformation that is clearly fabricated in order to confuse, enrage, and divide people. Thankfully, we have alternatives online that at least try to stay objective most of the time.
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I have noticed that quite a few of the most vitriolic racists I've come across on the internet were living in mostly urban or suburban neighborhoods where they were a minority; this goes for black people as much as it does for white people. If you're made to feel like you're an "other," you'll more than likely hold a lot of animosity for those who othered you.

As for mixed race couples, I wonder if time plays into your perception. If you were living in a city while it still had some taboo attached to it, you might notice it more than when you're in a more rural location a few years later when it's more common. I don't know how long that period was so I can't say. Your particular city also might have a different vibe around race; I've worked in my home city and I can say that I have seen hundreds of mixed race couples with children with a wide variety of match-ups. There's always tensions, especially with police involved, but all in all I'd say that race relations are probably better than they have been in recent memory.

I wonder if that's another part of why white supremacy is making such a comeback. SJWs stir the pot of racial resentment and white supremacists are all too eager to give them a hand.
 
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Coleman Francis said:
When I moved away from the city to a much smaller town, surrounding by dairy farms, cows, horses, etc. they welcomed me almost immediately. Sure, they all had to ask where I was from because of my accent, but they were pretty solid as far as neighbors go.
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I've lived in three urban neighborhoods where I was like one of a half dozen or so white people on the block and they were all good neighbors.

Don't be a dick and you don't get treated like a dick.

Very simple rule.

Meowthkip said:
I wonder if that's another part of why white supremacy is making such a comeback. SJWs stir the pot of racial resentment and white supremacists are all too eager to give them a hand.
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White supremacists have no better friends than SJWs.
 
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