Snowflake shoe0nhead / June Lapine / June La Porta & Armoured Skeptic / Gregory "Greg" Fluhrer - A poor man's Boxxy: rejected by Vaush, disowned by /pol/ for burning coal, sleeps in a dog's bed surrounded by trash, and her ex-boyfriend.

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LtCucumber said:
with what @Medicated said, and the whole "their relationship isn't healthy" thing... If they're into the DDLG kinky side of things, then it seems possible (though idk what goes on in the mind of people who like to play the role of "sub" and "dom"). I haven't watched many of their videos, not really into them as much as others, but from what I've seen she does seem kinda clingy. Having said that I think they're long distance (isn't one in the US and the other in canada?) and if I'm right and they are, then it's a little more understandable if she's clingy and maybe it isn't that deep.
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:powerlevel: Slightly since this is from experience.:powerlevel:

The sub/dom dynamic actually has a lot of rules in order to keep the machine well oiled and running. I'm sure you've even heard of contracts and whatnot involving the kink, said contracts existing for the safety of both parties (physical for the sub, legal for the dom) are common for the sensible groups. This, paired on by the fact that this kink is generally only born/suggested when a substantial amount of time has passed for a sexually-open relationship to mature, generally allows the deviancies to be sustainable. There's a lot of flavors to S/D, but it mostly boils to severe amounts of trust from both parties to where the former will do as the latter says in exchange for the latter's protection.

I heavily doubt Shoe and Skeptic have that level of connection for one another, especially given the long-distance nature of their relationship. This is just a girl who found some dude who's okay with her fetish and is indeed clingy because it's both kind of difficult to find and he's across the country. Their relationship, or at least it's health, won't last.

Otherwise I don't like her, but I don't think she's remarkably stupid either. Just sorta weird, as are most here.
 
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More of a question is has she ever been in love? It seems like a teenage infatuation that I would have experienced when I was 15 or 16. When you first get into a relationship, you are crazy about your partner, yeah, it's a new relationship. Over time you aren't all over them as you were when first in a relationship, however you still love them but you're not sticking your nose up their ass every minute of every day. For real though, look at any happily married couple, or even people in long-term relationships, they're not as immature about the relationship as Shoe is. Sure, she may be in love, however her actions being similar to people who are 14-16 in their first "serious" relationship makes me think that it's a childish infatuation that will fade.

When I see people who are all over their partner, practically clinging onto them IRL, I either think "new relationship" or "they're trying too hard".

Now I'm not sure if she's joking about the last part or not, but if she thinks the only right way to treat a boyfriend is to put them on a pedestal, she's definitely new to relationships and probably doesn't know much about love.
 
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Whenever anybody says anything bad about their dynamic, she can't help but just insult other people's relationships, imaginary people by the way, nobody in particular. She's always like "people are jealous, my relationship is SOOOO different than theirs". She's always comparing herself to others and it always serves as a point of explaining how her relationship with Skeptic is the best ever, nothing can compare and nobody understands. For somebody who called out feminists for criticizing "conventional" ways of living (which is obviously hypocritical coming from people fighting for freedom of expression and equality), she LOVES shaming imaginary people for having boring relationships. Ironically, everybody knows that if you have such an awesome relationship then you don't really need to explain yourself and remind people about it constantly.
 
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Whenever anybody says anything bad about their dynamic, she can't help but just insult other people's relationships, imaginary people by the way, nobody in particular. She's always like "people are jealous, my relationship is SOOOO different than theirs". She's always comparing herself to others and it always serves as a point of explaining how her relationship with Skeptic is the best ever, nothing can compare and nobody understands. For somebody who called out feminists for criticizing "conventional" ways of living (which is obviously hypocritical coming from people fighting for freedom of expression and equality), she LOVES shaming imaginary people for having boring relationships. Ironically, everybody knows that if you have such an awesome relationship then you don't really need to explain yourself and remind people about it constantly.
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Holy shit this. She does seem to love how "different" the relationship is, though in reality there are probably tons like it out there. Healthy or not, it's not just her. She's not special.

It's like people who have to shout about how their "omg sew differenttt xd" taste in music is better than "that generic crap"; it screams that they're so insecure and need their music tastes validated.
 
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I've heard it said that love isn't that initial flush of desire and excitement, it's what keeps you together as a couple long term. Shoe doesn't seem to understand that.

If she thinks regular people dating several people before settling down is 'riding the cock carousel' it seems to me she's never been in another relationship, or if she has, it was entirely online.
 
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I've heard it said that love isn't that initial flush of desire and excitement, it's what keeps you together as a couple long term. Shoe doesn't seem to understand that.

If she thinks regular people dating several people before settling down is 'riding the cock carousel' it seems to me she's never been in another relationship, or if she has, it was entirely online.
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Sounds like something a slut riding the cock carousel would say.
 
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For The Internet said:
I've heard it said that love isn't that initial flush of desire and excitement, it's what keeps you together as a couple long term. Shoe doesn't seem to understand that.

If she thinks regular people dating several people before settling down is 'riding the cock carousel' it seems to me she's never been in another relationship, or if she has, it was entirely online.
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Exactly. Would also explain why she's completely smitten with this one guy and clinging onto him so hard- I hate to say this because it feels like I'm belittling people when I do, but she has such little experience. Doesn't really look like she can criticize people's relationships because they aren't her own, considering she clearly doesn't seem to understand relationships much.

It's like the people who get high-and-mighty because they're saving themselves for marriage. Give me a break.
 
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In my experience, this is unfortunately a common thing in the BDSM/DDlg crowd. Often people who are into that kink like to imagine the sub/little partner as being sexually untouched before they came along, there's an element of "I corrupted you/I'm the first and only person you've been with" that appeals to them. Unfortunately they'll often then shit on people who have had past sexual partners.

June has had at least one boyfriend before Greg, she used to date a black guy whose name escapes me now. I also want to say she's alluded to past relationships with girls. I think a big part of this though is that Greg is the first guy she's done BDSM with.
 
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LtCucumber said:
Holy shit this. She does seem to love how "different" the relationship is, though in reality there are probably tons like it out there. Healthy or not, it's not just her. She's not special.

It's like people who have to shout about how their "omg sew differenttt xd" taste in music is better than "that generic crap"; it screams that they're so insecure and need their music tastes validated.
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The worst part is that, given the liberal sexual freedom that's been becoming more and more accepted, this isn't really all that crazy rare either. Sure, still probably gonna wade through a ton of vanilla in a ratio of around 3:1 (those are still crazy good odds, by the way), but it's way easier to find these people now and their kinks are generally accepted and waved off by the general populace as long as you don't go telling everyone about it.


Basically the opposite of what Shoe is doing.
 
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I was going to link this old Anthony Fantano video as a joke but now it's been taken down.
 
I feel really bad for her, the pandering and self-hating women shtick is common and played out, it's not out of the ordinary. So many girls I knew did/do the deep part and shitty cat eye, while trying desperately hard to make any of the men in their lives validate them by talking about how not like normie-girls they are. I think she wouldn't even be a lolcow if she wasn't a grown adult woman with a man old enough to have been married before, still acting like it.

I just want some mom-type to show her how to apply make-up and have a heart to heart. But the DDLG thing she makes incessantly public probably will dissuade any normal women from talking to her. Y'know, besides telling everyone how she likes to beat off with her name and face attached. Hopefully this youtube thing pans out, because y'know.

Talking about how you like to whack it pretending to be a little girl is not conducive to friends or being gainfully employed in a professional career.
 
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